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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2015 - 11:59 AM ET #26

    Down to -9 now, nobody wants the Cats, love it..............another half unit.

    Another half unit Cats -5.5 1st half and did make a play on  Jax -5 1st half.


    Made a very small quarter unit parlay, Jax ml, Cats ML, Cats under 101.

    Total going up but just a bit.
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    Down to -9 now, nobody wants the Cats, love it..............another half unit.

    Another half unit Cats -5.5 1st half and did make a play on  Jax -5 1st half.


    Made a very small quarter unit parlay, Jax ml, Cats ML, Cats under 101.

    Total going up but just a bit.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2015 - 12:17 PM ET #27

    Wow, Cats down to -8 and -4.5 in 1st half and now +110 to win title, crazy ....................................
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    Wow, Cats down to -8 and -4.5 in 1st half and now +110 to win title, crazy ....................................
     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2015 - 2:51 PM ET #28

    Maybe some tout released a monster play on Zona using some trend or such thing, and with fewer people betting the sport a few big money players banged Zona pushing down the line.

    Interesting nobody is buying back the Cats, I can not see it, worst case Cats should cover either 1st half or 2cd half.

    Very likely Cats cover game spread by halftime, they'll cover the -12.5 at halftime.

    If the 1st half is close, mostly Zona getting some fluke things then if we get a 2cd half  line that would make Cats a very small fav onthe game like -3  I'll take 6 units in the 2cd half on Cats.



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    Maybe some tout released a monster play on Zona using some trend or such thing, and with fewer people betting the sport a few big money players banged Zona pushing down the line.

    Interesting nobody is buying back the Cats, I can not see it, worst case Cats should cover either 1st half or 2cd half.

    Very likely Cats cover game spread by halftime, they'll cover the -12.5 at halftime.

    If the 1st half is close, mostly Zona getting some fluke things then if we get a 2cd half  line that would make Cats a very small fav onthe game like -3  I'll take 6 units in the 2cd half on Cats.



     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2015 - 5:21 PM ET #29

    Getting closer to game time, line back up to Cats -9, saw it as low as -7.5 was hoping it dropped to -7 but I did not see that if it did.

    Did make a very small 1/3 unit parlay on Lynx PK over Mercury tommorrow with Cats to win the title +110.


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    Getting closer to game time, line back up to Cats -9, saw it as low as -7.5 was hoping it dropped to -7 but I did not see that if it did.

    Did make a very small 1/3 unit parlay on Lynx PK over Mercury tommorrow with Cats to win the title +110.


     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2015 - 9:24 PM ET #30

    Should have known better than to tail a clown who has the only posts in his thread......
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    Should have known better than to tail a clown who has the only posts in his thread......
     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2015 - 9:42 PM ET #31

    I don't know the score, Arena site is down, shows 21-21 with 7:25 to go 1st half.

    Cats -6.5 2cd half but not sure if ahead by 3 or tied or behind, no clue.
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    I don't know the score, Arena site is down, shows 21-21 with 7:25 to go 1st half.

    Cats -6.5 2cd half but not sure if ahead by 3 or tied or behind, no clue.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 23, 2015 - 9:29 AM ET #32

    Son of a gun, Cats great pass defense could not get it done, but they did limit the Rattlers to a 7.1 yd ave per pass while the Cats destroyed the Rattlers defense making huge plays in the passing game with a 9.4 ave per pass.

    They could not come up with the big INT's they've been know for all season. I'd look for that to reverse in the final.

    Looks like somebody new something about that big line, but like I said, I have no history of any lines in the sport.

    We did cash our to win the conference for 2.5 units and are still
     alive to win the title.

    And we can bounce back with Jax today and get Cats to win title we'll do ok.
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    Son of a gun, Cats great pass defense could not get it done, but they did limit the Rattlers to a 7.1 yd ave per pass while the Cats destroyed the Rattlers defense making huge plays in the passing game with a 9.4 ave per pass.

    They could not come up with the big INT's they've been know for all season. I'd look for that to reverse in the final.

    Looks like somebody new something about that big line, but like I said, I have no history of any lines in the sport.

    We did cash our to win the conference for 2.5 units and are still
     alive to win the title.

    And we can bounce back with Jax today and get Cats to win title we'll do ok.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 23, 2015 - 10:36 AM ET #33

    Jax remains +9 and +240 ML but has gone up to +985 to win title.

    If the Soul were to win big, we could get very good value on the ,line backing the Cats in the Arenabowl, and this is why ....we stay the coarse with the info...and at the end of the day it will treat us well. 
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    Jax remains +9 and +240 ML but has gone up to +985 to win title.

    If the Soul were to win big, we could get very good value on the ,line backing the Cats in the Arenabowl, and this is why ....we stay the coarse with the info...and at the end of the day it will treat us well. 
     
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    Posted: Aug. 23, 2015 - 10:45 AM ET #34

    With the Cats winning the conference the incredible Power Ratings now goes to 7 for 7 in the past 2 years with our favorite to win the title making the title game and 5 for 6 winning the title.

     Losing only when Seahawks lost on a fluky INT where the DB knew the play being run before Seahawks ran it.

    And I think we are 10 for 10 last 3 years making the title game and 6 of 9 winning the title.

    And one of the title game losses we did call for the team to lose (2012 49ers) in the title game using Power Ratings from the playoffs only, which actually makes us 7 of 9 winning the title.

    Which it's why it's so important to stay the coarse with the info.

    We'll see if we do it again guys......................................
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    With the Cats winning the conference the incredible Power Ratings now goes to 7 for 7 in the past 2 years with our favorite to win the title making the title game and 5 for 6 winning the title.

     Losing only when Seahawks lost on a fluky INT where the DB knew the play being run before Seahawks ran it.

    And I think we are 10 for 10 last 3 years making the title game and 6 of 9 winning the title.

    And one of the title game losses we did call for the team to lose (2012 49ers) in the title game using Power Ratings from the playoffs only, which actually makes us 7 of 9 winning the title.

    Which it's why it's so important to stay the coarse with the info.

    We'll see if we do it again guys......................................
     
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    Posted: Aug. 23, 2015 - 4:52 PM ET #35

    Lines down to 7.5 as we near game time.

    Hopefully the Arena  site works to check the score, gave up last night and went to bed not knowing who won.

    Could not find a score anywhere, geez, that's a league trying to build a bigger fan base ?
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    Lines down to 7.5 as we near game time.

    Hopefully the Arena  site works to check the score, gave up last night and went to bed not knowing who won.

    Could not find a score anywhere, geez, that's a league trying to build a bigger fan base ?
     
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    Posted: Aug. 23, 2015 - 7:22 PM ET #36

    Jax rolling 49-35 in the 4th.
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    Jax rolling 49-35 in the 4th.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 23, 2015 - 7:42 PM ET #37

    61-49 with 47 secs left.

    The info was spot on with Jax being the surprise story of the playoffs.

    And why we stay the coarse with the info.
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    61-49 with 47 secs left.

    The info was spot on with Jax being the surprise story of the playoffs.

    And why we stay the coarse with the info.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 23, 2015 - 7:45 PM ET #38

    Cats -9.48 over Jax in the Arenabowl using the Arena version.
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    Cats -9.48 over Jax in the Arenabowl using the Arena version.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 25, 2015 - 6:42 AM ET #39

    Line is Cats -11.5, was down to -10.5 but now back to 11.5.

    We add bonus points for better QB play, Cats receive .27...... my line with bonus pts - Cats - 9.75

    Not really a home game for Cats but played about 80 miles from San Jose in Stockton best I can tell.

    Basically could be said it's a home game I suppose, giving 3 additional points to the Cats - 12.75.

    We have no play either way. I suspect Cats bounce back with a much better performance especially by the defense.

    We have a 3 team parlay alive, Cats to win the title with Giants, KC week 1.

    I played  a small half unit 3 team parlay Jax +11.5 with Giants, KC week 1.

    We have a huge area to middle the game but will have the parlay alive  on 2 high probability plays in week 1 no matter what happens in the Arenabowl.


    I consider buying off on Jax +11.5 as I put a little more then I wanted to risk on Cats to win the title, only because with the odds dropping last week  I kept adding small hits

     The info strongly suggest Cats win the game with being over 9 pt favorites on my lines. Teams under 6 pt fav are now 2-3 SU, small sample size I know but hey it worked with Jax beating Soul. Teams over 6 pt favs 5-0 su, 6-0 su when bonus pts added ,  in conference finals and finals.

    In the 3 years 2011, 2012, 2014  for which I have past stats there was one  6 pt or better fav when bonus pts added , last season's Zona over Gladiators and it turned into a rout.
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    Line is Cats -11.5, was down to -10.5 but now back to 11.5.

    We add bonus points for better QB play, Cats receive .27...... my line with bonus pts - Cats - 9.75

    Not really a home game for Cats but played about 80 miles from San Jose in Stockton best I can tell.

    Basically could be said it's a home game I suppose, giving 3 additional points to the Cats - 12.75.

    We have no play either way. I suspect Cats bounce back with a much better performance especially by the defense.

    We have a 3 team parlay alive, Cats to win the title with Giants, KC week 1.

    I played  a small half unit 3 team parlay Jax +11.5 with Giants, KC week 1.

    We have a huge area to middle the game but will have the parlay alive  on 2 high probability plays in week 1 no matter what happens in the Arenabowl.


    I consider buying off on Jax +11.5 as I put a little more then I wanted to risk on Cats to win the title, only because with the odds dropping last week  I kept adding small hits

     The info strongly suggest Cats win the game with being over 9 pt favorites on my lines. Teams under 6 pt fav are now 2-3 SU, small sample size I know but hey it worked with Jax beating Soul. Teams over 6 pt favs 5-0 su, 6-0 su when bonus pts added ,  in conference finals and finals.

    In the 3 years 2011, 2012, 2014  for which I have past stats there was one  6 pt or better fav when bonus pts added , last season's Zona over Gladiators and it turned into a rout.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 26, 2015 - 7:42 AM ET #40

    Power Ratings II has done very, very well. 

    Won every game SU and has gone 3-0 ATS with a 6 pt diff to closing line and 5-0 ATS with a 6 pt diff at any point in the line.

    Had Cats just -5.85 over Zona and Sharks the fav -3.78 over Soul.

    Cats huge fav 1st round -36.18 and Zona -29.13 with the Soul being -17.73 and Jax the fav over Orlando by -1.26.

    Wow, we have some things we can build on next season.

    PR II is more balanced based, while PR I is  heavier to the passing game which is what Arena football seems to be all about, but I'll be a son of a gun, the more balanced PR II did very, very well.
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    Power Ratings II has done very, very well. 

    Won every game SU and has gone 3-0 ATS with a 6 pt diff to closing line and 5-0 ATS with a 6 pt diff at any point in the line.

    Had Cats just -5.85 over Zona and Sharks the fav -3.78 over Soul.

    Cats huge fav 1st round -36.18 and Zona -29.13 with the Soul being -17.73 and Jax the fav over Orlando by -1.26.

    Wow, we have some things we can build on next season.

    PR II is more balanced based, while PR I is  heavier to the passing game which is what Arena football seems to be all about, but I'll be a son of a gun, the more balanced PR II did very, very well.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 26, 2015 - 7:52 AM ET #41

    PR II..................

    Cats -2.58 over Sharks

    It's not a home game for Cats but just down the road and will likely be a home crowd I suppose, giving 3 pts to Cats -5.58.

    Either way we'd have a play on Jax, 

    however, if we haven't been playing this PR I would not jump in after 3-0 ATS run because to take advantage of a good PR you need to be on every game, since we already missed out on a 3-0 ATS run, a loss here would put the PR at 3-1 ATS which would be a very solid record but missing out on the 3-0 run leaves you 0-1 ATS.


    The info does strongly suggest Cats win SU so I'll stay with my Cats to win the title play.
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    PR II..................

    Cats -2.58 over Sharks

    It's not a home game for Cats but just down the road and will likely be a home crowd I suppose, giving 3 pts to Cats -5.58.

    Either way we'd have a play on Jax, 

    however, if we haven't been playing this PR I would not jump in after 3-0 ATS run because to take advantage of a good PR you need to be on every game, since we already missed out on a 3-0 ATS run, a loss here would put the PR at 3-1 ATS which would be a very solid record but missing out on the 3-0 run leaves you 0-1 ATS.


    The info does strongly suggest Cats win SU so I'll stay with my Cats to win the title play.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 27, 2015 - 9:26 AM ET #42

    Line up to Cats -13

     I put to win 1.5 units on Jax +13, but only because I have a bit more than I wanted on Cats to win the title as the odds continued to drop last week  and it was great value. If it goes to 14 may add another 1.5 units.

    The info suggest a very, very strong possibility Cats win SU, but it still important to maintain good money mangament practices and being my first time to use the info in Arena football much better to error on the side of being conservative.

    My point being, we don't have a play on the line, I wouldn't play Jax just to make a play.


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    Line up to Cats -13

     I put to win 1.5 units on Jax +13, but only because I have a bit more than I wanted on Cats to win the title as the odds continued to drop last week  and it was great value. If it goes to 14 may add another 1.5 units.

    The info suggest a very, very strong possibility Cats win SU, but it still important to maintain good money mangament practices and being my first time to use the info in Arena football much better to error on the side of being conservative.

    My point being, we don't have a play on the line, I wouldn't play Jax just to make a play.


     
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    Posted: Aug. 27, 2015 - 11:42 PM ET #43

    what's it like talking to yourself ?

    sorry pal, this is a joke of a game
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    what's it like talking to yourself ?

    sorry pal, this is a joke of a game
     
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    Posted: Aug. 29, 2015 - 5:22 PM ET #44

    Quote Originally Posted by mr_bollox:

    what's it like talking to yourself ?

    sorry pal, this is a joke of a game

    It'll be great if Cats win the Arenabowl, it'll be 7 of the past 10 times my PR's called the Champs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr_bollox:

    what's it like talking to yourself ?

    sorry pal, this is a joke of a game

    It'll be great if Cats win the Arenabowl, it'll be 7 of the past 10 times my PR's called the Champs.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 29, 2015 - 5:24 PM ET #45

    We're closing in on Arena Bowl time. 

    Line Cats -11.5

    1st half Cats -6.5


    Cats should get the job done ..................................
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    We're closing in on Arena Bowl time. 

    Line Cats -11.5

    1st half Cats -6.5


    Cats should get the job done ..................................
     
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    Posted: Aug. 29, 2015 - 8:37 PM ET #46

    We're in good shape at halftime, Cats down 33-27 but get the ball 2cd half.

    Boy oh boy dropped a INT in the endzone at the end of 2cd quarter.

    Cats great pass defense should get a play or 2 in the 2cd half enough to win this game.

    Looks like Jax will hang in there and get the cover hopefully and we get both the title and small play on Jax for the middle.
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    We're in good shape at halftime, Cats down 33-27 but get the ball 2cd half.

    Boy oh boy dropped a INT in the endzone at the end of 2cd quarter.

    Cats great pass defense should get a play or 2 in the 2cd half enough to win this game.

    Looks like Jax will hang in there and get the cover hopefully and we get both the title and small play on Jax for the middle.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 29, 2015 - 8:57 PM ET #47

    Yes sir, Cats pass defense does it again...pick 6......
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    Yes sir, Cats pass defense does it again...pick 6......
     
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    Posted: Aug. 29, 2015 - 8:58 PM ET #48

    Didn't take long.................
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    Didn't take long.................
     
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    Posted: Aug. 29, 2015 - 9:04 PM ET #49

    Defense recovers fumble..........................
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    Defense recovers fumble..........................
     
     
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    Posted: Aug. 29, 2015 - 9:07 PM ET #50

    Cats up 15..............................
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    Cats up 15..............................
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