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    AussieDownUnder
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    Posted: Oct. 20, 2015 - 12:43 AM ET #1

    Season: 5-2

    Some big games this weekend. Melbourne currently 3-0 ATS and face the Crocs in Melbourne. Gotta feel sorry for the Crocs with the travel they have to do. They tomorrow night and I lean Melbourne again because of the travel for the Crocs and Melbourne sitting pretty for their 3rd straight home game. Crocs in the past 10 days leading up to this match traveled from home across to NZ, then back across to Sydney. Then up North to Cairns and now back down to Melbourne. Gotta be taking it out of them thats for sure. Melbourne thrashed this team in Round #1 in Townsville with a thumping 99-84 win and with everything mentioned above, strong lean on Melbourne. Just want to wait to see if their are any key injuries that I don't know about.

    The other early game is NZ vs Kings in NZ. Another lean is the Kings. NZ also traveling far and playing their first game back at home after going to Illawarra and then Perth and then back to NZ (9 hour flight from Perth) to face a Kings team that has not covered its past 2 games where NZ came close to beating the Wildcats in Perth last weekend. But once again will wait for any injuries for both teams as just one injury to a player can really through the line off in this league. Hoping Childress finally plays this game as well. 

    BOL this week forum.

    Back tomorrow with some plays.
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    Season: 5-2

    Some big games this weekend. Melbourne currently 3-0 ATS and face the Crocs in Melbourne. Gotta feel sorry for the Crocs with the travel they have to do. They tomorrow night and I lean Melbourne again because of the travel for the Crocs and Melbourne sitting pretty for their 3rd straight home game. Crocs in the past 10 days leading up to this match traveled from home across to NZ, then back across to Sydney. Then up North to Cairns and now back down to Melbourne. Gotta be taking it out of them thats for sure. Melbourne thrashed this team in Round #1 in Townsville with a thumping 99-84 win and with everything mentioned above, strong lean on Melbourne. Just want to wait to see if their are any key injuries that I don't know about.

    The other early game is NZ vs Kings in NZ. Another lean is the Kings. NZ also traveling far and playing their first game back at home after going to Illawarra and then Perth and then back to NZ (9 hour flight from Perth) to face a Kings team that has not covered its past 2 games where NZ came close to beating the Wildcats in Perth last weekend. But once again will wait for any injuries for both teams as just one injury to a player can really through the line off in this league. Hoping Childress finally plays this game as well. 

    BOL this week forum.

    Back tomorrow with some plays.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2015 - 1:15 AM ET #2

    hey aussie who you like tonight?
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    hey aussie who you like tonight?
     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2015 - 1:52 AM ET #3

    Quote Originally Posted by bettorjon:

    hey aussie who you like tonight?

    Just waiting on some announcements Bettorjon before making any decisions. Might not play the first game and might look into the later game..
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    Quote Originally Posted by bettorjon:

    hey aussie who you like tonight?

    Just waiting on some announcements Bettorjon before making any decisions. Might not play the first game and might look into the later game..
     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2015 - 2:06 AM ET #4

    Corey Webster back for the Breakers tonight
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    Corey Webster back for the Breakers tonight
     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2015 - 2:08 AM ET #5

    Quote Originally Posted by rod_steel:

    Corey Webster back for the Breakers tonight

    Saw that as well Rod. Any news on Childress though? Webster released from his NBA team. Will he be jet lagged though? Possibly. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by rod_steel:

    Corey Webster back for the Breakers tonight

    Saw that as well Rod. Any news on Childress though? Webster released from his NBA team. Will he be jet lagged though? Possibly. 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2015 - 2:14 AM ET #6

    Childress is out mate but good chance to play Friday
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    Childress is out mate but good chance to play Friday
     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2015 - 2:19 AM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by rod_steel:

    Childress is out mate but good chance to play Friday

    Your a good man Rod. Thanks for the update. No play then. Don't trust the Kings on the road for their first road game of the season and the Breakers played very well vs the Wildcats last weekend with Abercrombie on fire from the 3 point line and the Kings allowed the Hawks to shoot ridiculously from the 3 point line last weekend so will wait for the later game as there is less injury worries in that game. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by rod_steel:

    Childress is out mate but good chance to play Friday

    Your a good man Rod. Thanks for the update. No play then. Don't trust the Kings on the road for their first road game of the season and the Breakers played very well vs the Wildcats last weekend with Abercrombie on fire from the 3 point line and the Kings allowed the Hawks to shoot ridiculously from the 3 point line last weekend so will wait for the later game as there is less injury worries in that game. 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2015 - 4:11 AM ET #8

     Townsville Crocs @ Melbourne United: Townsville +11.5

    Taking the Crocs in this game because I think its going to be the exact opposite of last game. The game 2 weeks ago at HT was 43-42 Melbourne. 2H, the Crocs fell apart and lost the 2H 56-42 thanks to Blanchfield going crazy from the 3 point line. The Crocs have Perth on deck next game after this, they have a horrible record in Perth. They haven't won a game in Perth for over 6 years and the average losing margin has been 18 points during that drought. Perth also get Martin back so that will make it even harder for the Crocs. Think Melbourne comes out strong 1H and then the Crocs crawl their way back into this game 2H as United have the Taipans on deck next. Think Conklin is going to have a very big game along with Jett.

    BOL forum
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     Townsville Crocs @ Melbourne United: Townsville +11.5

    Taking the Crocs in this game because I think its going to be the exact opposite of last game. The game 2 weeks ago at HT was 43-42 Melbourne. 2H, the Crocs fell apart and lost the 2H 56-42 thanks to Blanchfield going crazy from the 3 point line. The Crocs have Perth on deck next game after this, they have a horrible record in Perth. They haven't won a game in Perth for over 6 years and the average losing margin has been 18 points during that drought. Perth also get Martin back so that will make it even harder for the Crocs. Think Melbourne comes out strong 1H and then the Crocs crawl their way back into this game 2H as United have the Taipans on deck next. Think Conklin is going to have a very big game along with Jett.

    BOL forum
     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2015 - 4:55 AM ET #9

    Went for +15.5 live

    12pt lead end of 1st
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    Went for +15.5 live

    12pt lead end of 1st
     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2015 - 5:20 AM ET #10

    I didnt expect a blowout

    Anyway lets get it back nextime mate

    keep up the good work
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    I didnt expect a blowout

    Anyway lets get it back nextime mate

    keep up the good work
     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2015 - 5:52 AM ET #11

    Horrible play.. I should have read my very first post that I did last night about the Crocs travel concerns. They look pathetic and Melbourne look insane with Goulding, Morok and Holt. Will be tough to beat especially at home
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    Horrible play.. I should have read my very first post that I did last night about the Crocs travel concerns. They look pathetic and Melbourne look insane with Goulding, Morok and Holt. Will be tough to beat especially at home
     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2015 - 9:45 PM ET #12

    Cairns Taipans @ Adelaide 36ers: Over 157.5

    Total seems very low IMHO. The 36ers are coming off 2 very hard games against the in form Melbourne United and the defensive minded Wildcats. Think 36ers will try and push the pace this game and the Taipans will follow. Think that this game will remain very close as well and we might see some free throws towards the end of the game so I would rather be on the over than the under if that occurs. Cairns are 3-0 over this total after playing the Crocs last season and the 36ers are 4-0 over this total after playing Melbourne. 
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    Cairns Taipans @ Adelaide 36ers: Over 157.5

    Total seems very low IMHO. The 36ers are coming off 2 very hard games against the in form Melbourne United and the defensive minded Wildcats. Think 36ers will try and push the pace this game and the Taipans will follow. Think that this game will remain very close as well and we might see some free throws towards the end of the game so I would rather be on the over than the under if that occurs. Cairns are 3-0 over this total after playing the Crocs last season and the 36ers are 4-0 over this total after playing Melbourne. 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2015 - 12:23 AM ET #13

    Grabbing this line early for tomorrow.. This is what I expect.

    Expect the 36ers to win tonight by putting up a big score vs the Taipans. They then travel to Sydney to face the Kings who are now 1-3 S/U in the season and not looking good at all. This Kings game is less than 24 hours before the end of the 36ers game tonight with the Taipans. Childress is more than likely to finally play his first game of the season for the Kings and they need him badly tomorrow night because they don't want to got 1-4 after the first 5 games of the season. 

    Adelaide 36ers @ Sydney Kings: Kings -2.5 (tomorrow night Sydney time)




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    Grabbing this line early for tomorrow.. This is what I expect.

    Expect the 36ers to win tonight by putting up a big score vs the Taipans. They then travel to Sydney to face the Kings who are now 1-3 S/U in the season and not looking good at all. This Kings game is less than 24 hours before the end of the 36ers game tonight with the Taipans. Childress is more than likely to finally play his first game of the season for the Kings and they need him badly tomorrow night because they don't want to got 1-4 after the first 5 games of the season. 

    Adelaide 36ers @ Sydney Kings: Kings -2.5 (tomorrow night Sydney time)




     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2015 - 12:43 AM ET #14

     I like that Kings line for tomorrow Aussie and would play that as well. Any reason why you're not taking the 36ers tonight, if you expect them to win?.. BOL with your total play...
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     I like that Kings line for tomorrow Aussie and would play that as well. Any reason why you're not taking the 36ers tonight, if you expect them to win?.. BOL with your total play...
     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2015 - 12:55 AM ET #15

    Quote Originally Posted by damuskul13:

     I like that Kings line for tomorrow Aussie and would play that as well. Any reason why you're not taking the 36ers tonight, if you expect them to win?.. BOL with your total play...

    Hey Damuskul,

    I do like the 36ers but I cant trust them against the Taipans. We have seen them play bad 2H's lately and that could hurt them tonight. I personally like the over play better than a side in this game because I think both teams put up some points and with how close I think this game will be, I really think that this game could go either way.  I do hope the 36ers win for my bet tomorrow but i am also taking the Kings tomorrow because its crunch time for them and the 36ers will be on a back to back. 


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    Quote Originally Posted by damuskul13:

     I like that Kings line for tomorrow Aussie and would play that as well. Any reason why you're not taking the 36ers tonight, if you expect them to win?.. BOL with your total play...

    Hey Damuskul,

    I do like the 36ers but I cant trust them against the Taipans. We have seen them play bad 2H's lately and that could hurt them tonight. I personally like the over play better than a side in this game because I think both teams put up some points and with how close I think this game will be, I really think that this game could go either way.  I do hope the 36ers win for my bet tomorrow but i am also taking the Kings tomorrow because its crunch time for them and the 36ers will be on a back to back. 


     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2015 - 2:10 AM ET #16

    It’s only the early stages of the 2015/16 NBL season and the Adelaide 36ers and Cairns Taipans are two teams that we have not seen the best of yet, but they have a history of bringing the best out of each other.

    There is no consistency in the recent form lines of these teams when it comes to head-to-head clashes. Both teams have been runners-up in the last two years indicating a competitive streak that is at the highest level.

    Even though Cairns are the most recent Grand Finalists, Adelaide had the better of them in the last two meetings, including a thrilling overtime win in Queensland.

    The Taipans won 14 of their last 17 regular season games last year to dominate the table, but two of those three losses were to the 36ers.

    A lot of the current struggles that both teams are currently suffering are originating at the offensive end.

    It is unusual to notice that a Joey Wright coached team is having problems scoring. After leading the League in scoring for the past two seasons, the 36ers currently rank seventh, at 77.0 points per game which is 15 percent decrease from the last two years.

    The club has recognised their offensive struggles and this week made the call to replace injured Kenyon McNeail with European veteran scoring guard Jerome Randall, although he is not expected to be ready for this game.

    Both Adelaide imports were their biggest strugglers from long range with McNeail and Ebi Ere combining for 7-from-28 at just 25 per cent.

    Cairns have never been a high scoring side, but have also never averaged 18 points less than the highest scoring team, and have never been the worst three-point shooting team.

    The Taipans have shot just 18-from-71 (25.4 per cent) from long range with Alex Loughton, Torrey Craig and Mark Worthington the worst offenders with a combined 4-from-26 (15.3 per cent).

    One man will we not see anywhere near the three-point line is Taipans forward Cameron Tragardh who celebrates his 300th NBL game in this match after missing the first two games due to a calf injury.

    This will be the first game for Adelaide speedster Nathan Sobey against his former club. The Warrnambool junior is still finding his feet in the 36ers line-up but has already set new career-highs in scoring in his first three games.

    One of the greatest statistical anomalies last season was the form of Torrey Craig against Adelaide. The athletic Cairns forward averaged 7.2 points against all the other teams but an incredible 20.5 points in four games against the 36ers with scores of 19, 19, 28 and 16.


    Prediction : Cairns Taipans

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    It’s only the early stages of the 2015/16 NBL season and the Adelaide 36ers and Cairns Taipans are two teams that we have not seen the best of yet, but they have a history of bringing the best out of each other.

    There is no consistency in the recent form lines of these teams when it comes to head-to-head clashes. Both teams have been runners-up in the last two years indicating a competitive streak that is at the highest level.

    Even though Cairns are the most recent Grand Finalists, Adelaide had the better of them in the last two meetings, including a thrilling overtime win in Queensland.

    The Taipans won 14 of their last 17 regular season games last year to dominate the table, but two of those three losses were to the 36ers.

    A lot of the current struggles that both teams are currently suffering are originating at the offensive end.

    It is unusual to notice that a Joey Wright coached team is having problems scoring. After leading the League in scoring for the past two seasons, the 36ers currently rank seventh, at 77.0 points per game which is 15 percent decrease from the last two years.

    The club has recognised their offensive struggles and this week made the call to replace injured Kenyon McNeail with European veteran scoring guard Jerome Randall, although he is not expected to be ready for this game.

    Both Adelaide imports were their biggest strugglers from long range with McNeail and Ebi Ere combining for 7-from-28 at just 25 per cent.

    Cairns have never been a high scoring side, but have also never averaged 18 points less than the highest scoring team, and have never been the worst three-point shooting team.

    The Taipans have shot just 18-from-71 (25.4 per cent) from long range with Alex Loughton, Torrey Craig and Mark Worthington the worst offenders with a combined 4-from-26 (15.3 per cent).

    One man will we not see anywhere near the three-point line is Taipans forward Cameron Tragardh who celebrates his 300th NBL game in this match after missing the first two games due to a calf injury.

    This will be the first game for Adelaide speedster Nathan Sobey against his former club. The Warrnambool junior is still finding his feet in the 36ers line-up but has already set new career-highs in scoring in his first three games.

    One of the greatest statistical anomalies last season was the form of Torrey Craig against Adelaide. The athletic Cairns forward averaged 7.2 points against all the other teams but an incredible 20.5 points in four games against the 36ers with scores of 19, 19, 28 and 16.


    Prediction : Cairns Taipans

     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2015 - 6:34 AM ET #17

    Cairns Taipans @ Adelaide 36ers: Over 157.5

    Total seems very low IMHO. The 36ers are coming off 2 very hard games against the in form Melbourne United and the defensive minded Wildcats. Think 36ers will try and push the pace this game and the Taipans will follow. Think that this game will remain very close as well and we might see some free throws towards the end of the game so I would rather be on the over than the under if that occurs. Cairns are 3-0 over this total after playing the Crocs last season and the 36ers are 4-0 over this total after playing Melbourne. 

    Great win mate, no sweat at all, tailed you on this. Thanks heaps. Also took Under 181.5 halftime, for the middle, thanks for pointing out 36ers terrible 2h at times, although they finished strong on the 4Q tonight..  Keep them coming aussie, appreciate your work..
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    Cairns Taipans @ Adelaide 36ers: Over 157.5

    Total seems very low IMHO. The 36ers are coming off 2 very hard games against the in form Melbourne United and the defensive minded Wildcats. Think 36ers will try and push the pace this game and the Taipans will follow. Think that this game will remain very close as well and we might see some free throws towards the end of the game so I would rather be on the over than the under if that occurs. Cairns are 3-0 over this total after playing the Crocs last season and the 36ers are 4-0 over this total after playing Melbourne. 

    Great win mate, no sweat at all, tailed you on this. Thanks heaps. Also took Under 181.5 halftime, for the middle, thanks for pointing out 36ers terrible 2h at times, although they finished strong on the 4Q tonight..  Keep them coming aussie, appreciate your work..
     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2015 - 6:55 AM ET #18

    Kings line is already out to 4.5

    First quarter line is -1.5. I expect Adelaide to struggle to play a back to back and will come out slow tomorrow night.
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    Kings line is already out to 4.5

    First quarter line is -1.5. I expect Adelaide to struggle to play a back to back and will come out slow tomorrow night.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2015 - 7:55 AM ET #19

    Quote Originally Posted by damuskul13:

    Cairns Taipans @ Adelaide 36ers: Over 157.5

    Total seems very low IMHO. The 36ers are coming off 2 very hard games against the in form Melbourne United and the defensive minded Wildcats. Think 36ers will try and push the pace this game and the Taipans will follow. Think that this game will remain very close as well and we might see some free throws towards the end of the game so I would rather be on the over than the under if that occurs. Cairns are 3-0 over this total after playing the Crocs last season and the 36ers are 4-0 over this total after playing Melbourne. 

    Great win mate, no sweat at all, tailed you on this. Thanks heaps. Also took Under 181.5 halftime, for the middle, thanks for pointing out 36ers terrible 2h at times, although they finished strong on the 4Q tonight..  Keep them coming aussie, appreciate your work..

    Thanks buddy. Was a nice comfortable win although the scoring in the 2H completely dropped down after 97 in the 1H. Nice middling as well mate with the 181.5 
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    Quote Originally Posted by damuskul13:

    Cairns Taipans @ Adelaide 36ers: Over 157.5

    Total seems very low IMHO. The 36ers are coming off 2 very hard games against the in form Melbourne United and the defensive minded Wildcats. Think 36ers will try and push the pace this game and the Taipans will follow. Think that this game will remain very close as well and we might see some free throws towards the end of the game so I would rather be on the over than the under if that occurs. Cairns are 3-0 over this total after playing the Crocs last season and the 36ers are 4-0 over this total after playing Melbourne. 

    Great win mate, no sweat at all, tailed you on this. Thanks heaps. Also took Under 181.5 halftime, for the middle, thanks for pointing out 36ers terrible 2h at times, although they finished strong on the 4Q tonight..  Keep them coming aussie, appreciate your work..

    Thanks buddy. Was a nice comfortable win although the scoring in the 2H completely dropped down after 97 in the 1H. Nice middling as well mate with the 181.5 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2015 - 7:56 AM ET #20

    Quote Originally Posted by Hardwood23:

    Kings line is already out to 4.5

    First quarter line is -1.5. I expect Adelaide to struggle to play a back to back and will come out slow tomorrow night.

    Blown out to -5.5 now as well at Sportsbet. My guess will be that Childress has been confirmed as playing tomorrow which would be a HUGE boost for the Kings against a tired 36ers team. Think the 36ers will come out strong 1H tomorrow and then Kings take over 2H. I tell you what though, after watching the 36ers tonight, that Randle guy looks very smooth. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hardwood23:

    Kings line is already out to 4.5

    First quarter line is -1.5. I expect Adelaide to struggle to play a back to back and will come out slow tomorrow night.

    Blown out to -5.5 now as well at Sportsbet. My guess will be that Childress has been confirmed as playing tomorrow which would be a HUGE boost for the Kings against a tired 36ers team. Think the 36ers will come out strong 1H tomorrow and then Kings take over 2H. I tell you what though, after watching the 36ers tonight, that Randle guy looks very smooth. 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2015 - 12:20 AM ET #21

    Ok, Childress will be playing in this Kings game on limited minutes. Still doesn't explain the crazy line movement from -2.5 to -5.5 with some books but i guess they know that the Kings need this win more than ever right now. Don't want to be 1-4 after this game if they drop it.

    Looking into the later game. Perth might be missing Martin and Prather for this game. I cannot back this Crocs team until they show some heart after their performance vs Melbourne the other night so will look into the totals and see what I can find and will do some of my own calcs to see what I get. 

    BOL forum..
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    Ok, Childress will be playing in this Kings game on limited minutes. Still doesn't explain the crazy line movement from -2.5 to -5.5 with some books but i guess they know that the Kings need this win more than ever right now. Don't want to be 1-4 after this game if they drop it.

    Looking into the later game. Perth might be missing Martin and Prather for this game. I cannot back this Crocs team until they show some heart after their performance vs Melbourne the other night so will look into the totals and see what I can find and will do some of my own calcs to see what I get. 

    BOL forum..
     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2015 - 3:25 AM ET #22

    Bravo my friend Aussie......willfollow here

    good luck and compliments for the nice start
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    Bravo my friend Aussie......willfollow here

    good luck and compliments for the nice start
     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2015 - 8:51 PM ET #23

    Quote Originally Posted by ciccio74:

    Bravo my friend Aussie......willfollow here

    good luck and compliments for the nice start

    Hi Ciccio,

    Glad you found this forum. Season has only started. Lets hope for a profitable one 
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    Quote Originally Posted by ciccio74:

    Bravo my friend Aussie......willfollow here

    good luck and compliments for the nice start

    Hi Ciccio,

    Glad you found this forum. Season has only started. Lets hope for a profitable one 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2015 - 8:53 PM ET #24

    Well the Kings were disappointing last night.. They are now 1-4 S/U on the season so far and dead last. Amazing win for the Crocs in Perth last night. Looks like I was a game too early taking them..

    Just the one game tonight. An interesting game. Melbourne who are 4-0 S/U and 4-0 ATS vs a Taipains team who are struggling big time. Will look into the game shortly.

    Season: 6-4
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    Well the Kings were disappointing last night.. They are now 1-4 S/U on the season so far and dead last. Amazing win for the Crocs in Perth last night. Looks like I was a game too early taking them..

    Just the one game tonight. An interesting game. Melbourne who are 4-0 S/U and 4-0 ATS vs a Taipains team who are struggling big time. Will look into the game shortly.

    Season: 6-4
     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2015 - 10:48 PM ET #25

    Perth Wildcats @ Illawarra Hawks: Hawks -1.5

    Grabbing this line now before the books raise it. Last nights' game was horrible for Perth. They have 4 out of their starting 5 missing for this game tomorrow and quick turnaround whilst the Hawks have been sitting back and resting up. This game is tomorrow but happy to take the early line as Knight, Jawai, Martin and Prather. They are also facing their old coach and player Lisch for the first time in the reg season so expect Lisch to have a big game and the coach to have a good game plan against his old team. 
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    Perth Wildcats @ Illawarra Hawks: Hawks -1.5

    Grabbing this line now before the books raise it. Last nights' game was horrible for Perth. They have 4 out of their starting 5 missing for this game tomorrow and quick turnaround whilst the Hawks have been sitting back and resting up. This game is tomorrow but happy to take the early line as Knight, Jawai, Martin and Prather. They are also facing their old coach and player Lisch for the first time in the reg season so expect Lisch to have a big game and the coach to have a good game plan against his old team. 
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