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    NBL and WNBL Round #13

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    Posted: Dec. 29, 2015 - 5:36 PM ET #1

    NBL: 24-21
    WNBL: 14-16 

    Finally, we have some games this week. Starting off with Kings vs Melbourne. Melbourne finally got a good win at home vs the Perth Wildcats. Childress returns today for the Kings in a much needed win. Kings still missing Khazzouh. Still don't like Melbourne at all. Still don't like Kings either though. Childress does add to the Kings offense big time. Already been 3 meetings this season, with the Kings smoking Melbourne last time they met in Melbourne. Game totals have hit 177, 199 & 178 so they have all gone over this total yet the books release a total lower than the actual 3 games results. Missing Khazzouh isn't an issue for me seeing that he has been pretty soft and quiet in the last few games he played. Brandt is much more harder and can be a w@nker at times as well but he plays with some heart. Khazzouh just looks lazy sometimes. Will see where these lines go because we have plenty of time before tip-off but lean Kings and or the under in this game. Kings in their new home court remember, they have already played there last weekend which was a loss to NZ 93-83. 

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    NBL: 24-21
    WNBL: 14-16 

    Finally, we have some games this week. Starting off with Kings vs Melbourne. Melbourne finally got a good win at home vs the Perth Wildcats. Childress returns today for the Kings in a much needed win. Kings still missing Khazzouh. Still don't like Melbourne at all. Still don't like Kings either though. Childress does add to the Kings offense big time. Already been 3 meetings this season, with the Kings smoking Melbourne last time they met in Melbourne. Game totals have hit 177, 199 & 178 so they have all gone over this total yet the books release a total lower than the actual 3 games results. Missing Khazzouh isn't an issue for me seeing that he has been pretty soft and quiet in the last few games he played. Brandt is much more harder and can be a w@nker at times as well but he plays with some heart. Khazzouh just looks lazy sometimes. Will see where these lines go because we have plenty of time before tip-off but lean Kings and or the under in this game. Kings in their new home court remember, they have already played there last weekend which was a loss to NZ 93-83. 

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    Posted: Dec. 30, 2015 - 12:13 AM ET #2

    Melbourne United @ Sydney Kings: Under 174.5

    Risky yes, but I do think that the books know more than we do. The last game in Melbourne saw a ridiculous Garleep hit 9-9 in the 1Q and the 1Q hit 47 points followed by 59 in the 2Q, 42 in the 3Q and 29 in the 4Q. Insane to think that the 1H had 106 points in just 20 mins of ball. Thats over 5 points per minute and yet the game just clicked over the 174.5 total given back then when it hit 177 points thanks to a low 4Q. Now, i checked stats, Kings are allowing 93 points on the road compared to 86.5 at home. They average the same at home/road with 84.5 points. Melbourne on the other hand, they are allowing 88 on the road whilst scoring 82.5 and at home they are averaging 87 and allowing 81. Big difference for Melbourne from home/away. Childress will give some added benefit to the Kings offense in this game and Khazzouh being out makes me think that the may struggle for 2nd chance points against Majok and Melbourne. The TT for Melbourne in this game is currently at 89.5 points, they have not hit more than that on the road in over 7 road games. They last hit over this when they play Sydney way back when they were on fire at the start of the season and they notched up 105 points. Both these 2 teams are coming off some overs last weekend, the overs were flying over recently because the books didn't adjust their lines much but I think the unders/totals will regress to the mean and we see a low scoring game tonight. Its Xmas time, some players might not be bothered running and gunning as much, as well as Melbourne are playing their 3rd game in just 7 days which is rare in the NBL and with some travel as well, going to Adelaide, back to Melbourne and now up to Sydney to Homebush for this game. 

    Thinking something along the lines of 83-77 either way
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    Melbourne United @ Sydney Kings: Under 174.5

    Risky yes, but I do think that the books know more than we do. The last game in Melbourne saw a ridiculous Garleep hit 9-9 in the 1Q and the 1Q hit 47 points followed by 59 in the 2Q, 42 in the 3Q and 29 in the 4Q. Insane to think that the 1H had 106 points in just 20 mins of ball. Thats over 5 points per minute and yet the game just clicked over the 174.5 total given back then when it hit 177 points thanks to a low 4Q. Now, i checked stats, Kings are allowing 93 points on the road compared to 86.5 at home. They average the same at home/road with 84.5 points. Melbourne on the other hand, they are allowing 88 on the road whilst scoring 82.5 and at home they are averaging 87 and allowing 81. Big difference for Melbourne from home/away. Childress will give some added benefit to the Kings offense in this game and Khazzouh being out makes me think that the may struggle for 2nd chance points against Majok and Melbourne. The TT for Melbourne in this game is currently at 89.5 points, they have not hit more than that on the road in over 7 road games. They last hit over this when they play Sydney way back when they were on fire at the start of the season and they notched up 105 points. Both these 2 teams are coming off some overs last weekend, the overs were flying over recently because the books didn't adjust their lines much but I think the unders/totals will regress to the mean and we see a low scoring game tonight. Its Xmas time, some players might not be bothered running and gunning as much, as well as Melbourne are playing their 3rd game in just 7 days which is rare in the NBL and with some travel as well, going to Adelaide, back to Melbourne and now up to Sydney to Homebush for this game. 

    Thinking something along the lines of 83-77 either way
     
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    Posted: Dec. 30, 2015 - 12:15 AM ET #3

    I like this play OZ-+ ... thinking of playing it as well under 174.5

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    I like this play OZ-+ ... thinking of playing it as well under 174.5

     
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    Posted: Dec. 30, 2015 - 12:18 AM ET #4

    Nice pick OZ... 

    Anything to do with the new stadium? 

    I just don't see how all previous encounters go huge in total points and they set this at 174.5...

    Very fish...

    But I'm on it with you before it moves 
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    Nice pick OZ... 

    Anything to do with the new stadium? 

    I just don't see how all previous encounters go huge in total points and they set this at 174.5...

    Very fish...

    But I'm on it with you before it moves 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 30, 2015 - 12:22 AM ET #5

    Quote Originally Posted by peekay89:

    Nice pick OZ... 

    Anything to do with the new stadium? 

    I just don't see how all previous encounters go huge in total points and they set this at 174.5...

    Very fish...

    But I'm on it with you before it moves 

    Unfortunately Peekay I haven't been to the new stadium. Last week's game vs NZ saw a very low 76 points in the 1H followed by a ridiculous 100 points in the 2H thanks to Webster hitting 26 in the 2H just himself for NZ. I think we see the 1H high scoring in this game and then 2H scoring die down (hopefully). The line is very suspect to me as well mate, I really don't understand them releasing the total lower when all 3 games have gone over in this total. These guys arent used to playing 3 games in 7 nights so hopefully Melbourne's shooting is off tonight. Just hope the 3's don't come thick and fast in this game from both teams. The last time I watched the Kings they hit 3-29 from downtown. Hopefully they go back to that again tonight 
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    Quote Originally Posted by peekay89:

    Nice pick OZ... 

    Anything to do with the new stadium? 

    I just don't see how all previous encounters go huge in total points and they set this at 174.5...

    Very fish...

    But I'm on it with you before it moves 

    Unfortunately Peekay I haven't been to the new stadium. Last week's game vs NZ saw a very low 76 points in the 1H followed by a ridiculous 100 points in the 2H thanks to Webster hitting 26 in the 2H just himself for NZ. I think we see the 1H high scoring in this game and then 2H scoring die down (hopefully). The line is very suspect to me as well mate, I really don't understand them releasing the total lower when all 3 games have gone over in this total. These guys arent used to playing 3 games in 7 nights so hopefully Melbourne's shooting is off tonight. Just hope the 3's don't come thick and fast in this game from both teams. The last time I watched the Kings they hit 3-29 from downtown. Hopefully they go back to that again tonight 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 30, 2015 - 12:23 AM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by dontknowhowtobe:

    I like this play OZ-+ ... thinking of playing it as well under 174.5


    Thanks mate.. Always a risk playing an under in this league but hopefully I have picked the right under to play 
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    Quote Originally Posted by dontknowhowtobe:

    I like this play OZ-+ ... thinking of playing it as well under 174.5


    Thanks mate.. Always a risk playing an under in this league but hopefully I have picked the right under to play 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 30, 2015 - 12:25 AM ET #7

    Got my eyes on that ridiculous total in Crocs/36ers tomorrow. 178.5 is massive for a Crocs game. They are rarely in the 170's. 
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    Got my eyes on that ridiculous total in Crocs/36ers tomorrow. 178.5 is massive for a Crocs game. They are rarely in the 170's. 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 30, 2015 - 12:53 AM ET #8

    All it takes is one bad quarter and the Unders usually hit.

    I managed to get it at 175.5 but seems like with some extra juice @ 1.86

    Regardless BOL
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    All it takes is one bad quarter and the Unders usually hit.

    I managed to get it at 175.5 but seems like with some extra juice @ 1.86

    Regardless BOL
     
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    Posted: Dec. 30, 2015 - 1:11 AM ET #9

    Sorry guys going the other way on this one. Should be a good game all the same 
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    Sorry guys going the other way on this one. Should be a good game all the same 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 30, 2015 - 1:15 AM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by blind_freddie:

    Sorry guys going the other way on this one. Should be a good game all the same 

    Ah cr@p... Hate being on the other side of you Freddie. Can't wish you good luck either.. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by blind_freddie:

    Sorry guys going the other way on this one. Should be a good game all the same 

    Ah cr@p... Hate being on the other side of you Freddie. Can't wish you good luck either.. 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 30, 2015 - 2:05 AM ET #11

    Let's hope for plenty of bricks!
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    Let's hope for plenty of bricks!
     
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    Posted: Dec. 30, 2015 - 2:47 AM ET #12

    Quote Originally Posted by AussieDownUnder:


    Ah cr@p... Hate being on the other side of you Freddie. Can't wish you good luck either.. 


    If you two are not on the same pick here then I'm going to stay away from this and would only consider to bet at halftime ... if the 1H goes with lots of points I will bet in live under (whatever it would be under 185, 190 etc.) but if the 1H goes with low scoring then I'm out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AussieDownUnder:


    Ah cr@p... Hate being on the other side of you Freddie. Can't wish you good luck either.. 


    If you two are not on the same pick here then I'm going to stay away from this and would only consider to bet at halftime ... if the 1H goes with lots of points I will bet in live under (whatever it would be under 185, 190 etc.) but if the 1H goes with low scoring then I'm out.

     
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    Wow, I understand your dilemma guys. The total here is so weird, which is why i'm staying away myself. I think it's going to be a high scoring game myself, but the total really is fishy. I'm staying away. That being said, I made a small bet on Sydney +5. I just feel they come out guns blazing for some reason. BOL to both you guys. Top A-League cappers. 
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    Wow, I understand your dilemma guys. The total here is so weird, which is why i'm staying away myself. I think it's going to be a high scoring game myself, but the total really is fishy. I'm staying away. That being said, I made a small bet on Sydney +5. I just feel they come out guns blazing for some reason. BOL to both you guys. Top A-League cappers. 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 30, 2015 - 4:23 AM ET #14

    Well that was fun while it lasted.

    100+ points in the first half. 
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    Well that was fun while it lasted.

    100+ points in the first half. 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 30, 2015 - 5:15 AM ET #15

    Quote Originally Posted by dontknowhowtobe:



    If you two are not on the same pick here then I'm going to stay away from this and would only consider to bet at halftime ... if the 1H goes with lots of points I will bet in live under (whatever it would be under 185, 190 etc.) but if the 1H goes with low scoring then I'm out.



    I did what I promised to do and it was worth it:

    https://www.gamblingstories.com/topic/248-30th-of-december-2015-what-a-weird-day/

    Sorry for those who bet the under before the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dontknowhowtobe:



    If you two are not on the same pick here then I'm going to stay away from this and would only consider to bet at halftime ... if the 1H goes with lots of points I will bet in live under (whatever it would be under 185, 190 etc.) but if the 1H goes with low scoring then I'm out.



    I did what I promised to do and it was worth it:

    https://www.gamblingstories.com/topic/248-30th-of-december-2015-what-a-weird-day/

    Sorry for those who bet the under before the game.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 30, 2015 - 6:57 AM ET #16

    Insanity. Just a crazy 1H once again lead to 106 points. No more unders in this league. Watched the game and there was just no D at all. Just non whatsoever..
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    Insanity. Just a crazy 1H once again lead to 106 points. No more unders in this league. Watched the game and there was just no D at all. Just non whatsoever..
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by AussieDownUnder:

    Insanity. Just a crazy 1H once again lead to 106 points. No more unders in this league. Watched the game and there was just no D at all. Just non whatsoever..


    But the under at halftime was a good bet ... don't you think?
    I know you didn't take it but I still see the same trends in the NBA in America and in the NBL ... you get a blast of points at 1st half, then the 2nd goes the other way around ...

    Only in the PBA league (in the Philippines) I am used to see more often a different trend of a blast of points at 1st half and then a 2nd half with even more scoring than before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AussieDownUnder:

    Insanity. Just a crazy 1H once again lead to 106 points. No more unders in this league. Watched the game and there was just no D at all. Just non whatsoever..


    But the under at halftime was a good bet ... don't you think?
    I know you didn't take it but I still see the same trends in the NBA in America and in the NBL ... you get a blast of points at 1st half, then the 2nd goes the other way around ...

    Only in the PBA league (in the Philippines) I am used to see more often a different trend of a blast of points at 1st half and then a 2nd half with even more scoring than before.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 30, 2015 - 7:06 AM ET #18

    Agree buddy. I usually just let a bet ride out though. Just take the loss and move onto the other games this weekend for me. 
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    Agree buddy. I usually just let a bet ride out though. Just take the loss and move onto the other games this weekend for me. 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 30, 2015 - 7:25 AM ET #19

    The second half total points was like 92.5

    It's hard to pull the trigger on that when there's already 106 on the board..
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    The second half total points was like 92.5

    It's hard to pull the trigger on that when there's already 106 on the board..
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by peekay89:

    The second half total points was like 92.5

    It's hard to pull the trigger on that when there's already 106 on the board..


    Yes, exactly - this is the reason why I like these type of bets! I like to bet on something that is difficult to take psychologically - that's the whole beauty in it - it doesn't matter to me if it's the American NBA or the Australian NBL - they share the same trends ...

    It's like a market, nowadays it's all like the stock market.
    Ever heard of the famous quote - BUY LOW SELL HIGH ?

    That's what I do ... or at least did throughout 2015 - and it's all documented:

    https://www.gamblingstories.com/forum/5-my-story/

    I managed to make in 2015 about 11,000 GBP (over $16,300 USD) after losing a lot more in 2013-4 where I just placed bets without thinking about what exactly I was doing.

    You need to take those "difficult" bets to make money - or to be like freddie person who and I have no clue how - manages to "read" this league so well by having an amazing record so far - but this is not the type of my personality ... I prefer to take those "difficult" bets people are afraid to take.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peekay89:

    The second half total points was like 92.5

    It's hard to pull the trigger on that when there's already 106 on the board..


    Yes, exactly - this is the reason why I like these type of bets! I like to bet on something that is difficult to take psychologically - that's the whole beauty in it - it doesn't matter to me if it's the American NBA or the Australian NBL - they share the same trends ...

    It's like a market, nowadays it's all like the stock market.
    Ever heard of the famous quote - BUY LOW SELL HIGH ?

    That's what I do ... or at least did throughout 2015 - and it's all documented:

    https://www.gamblingstories.com/forum/5-my-story/

    I managed to make in 2015 about 11,000 GBP (over $16,300 USD) after losing a lot more in 2013-4 where I just placed bets without thinking about what exactly I was doing.

    You need to take those "difficult" bets to make money - or to be like freddie person who and I have no clue how - manages to "read" this league so well by having an amazing record so far - but this is not the type of my personality ... I prefer to take those "difficult" bets people are afraid to take.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by dontknowhowtobe:



    Yes, exactly - this is the reason why I like these type of bets! I like to bet on something that is difficult to take psychologically - that's the whole beauty in it - it doesn't matter to me if it's the American NBA or the Australian NBL - they share the same trends ...

    It's like a market, nowadays it's all like the stock market.
    Ever heard of the famous quote - BUY LOW SELL HIGH ?

    That's what I do ... or at least did throughout 2015 - and it's all documented:

    https://www.gamblingstories.com/forum/5-my-story/

    I managed to make in 2015 about 11,000 GBP (over $16,300 USD) after losing a lot more in 2013-4 where I just placed bets without thinking about what exactly I was doing.

    You need to take those "difficult" bets to make money - or to be like freddie person who and I have no clue how - manages to "read" this league so well by having an amazing record so far - but this is not the type of my personality ... I prefer to take those "difficult" bets people are afraid to take.



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    Quote Originally Posted by dontknowhowtobe:



    Yes, exactly - this is the reason why I like these type of bets! I like to bet on something that is difficult to take psychologically - that's the whole beauty in it - it doesn't matter to me if it's the American NBA or the Australian NBL - they share the same trends ...

    It's like a market, nowadays it's all like the stock market.
    Ever heard of the famous quote - BUY LOW SELL HIGH ?

    That's what I do ... or at least did throughout 2015 - and it's all documented:

    https://www.gamblingstories.com/forum/5-my-story/

    I managed to make in 2015 about 11,000 GBP (over $16,300 USD) after losing a lot more in 2013-4 where I just placed bets without thinking about what exactly I was doing.

    You need to take those "difficult" bets to make money - or to be like freddie person who and I have no clue how - manages to "read" this league so well by having an amazing record so far - but this is not the type of my personality ... I prefer to take those "difficult" bets people are afraid to take.



     
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    Posted: Dec. 30, 2015 - 11:41 PM ET #22

    Just cant seem to get anything going lately with both leagues. Tough card tonight with 2 road fav's. Don't think they both cover. Do we actually see 3 road fav's covering in the first 3 games of this round? Dont think so. Need to narrow down which dog to take.

    Cairns are +2.5 right now at home and they are 5-2 S/U at home, their opponents the NZ Breakers are just 3-5 S/U on the road and have won their last 2 on the road beating Kings and Townsville who are both teams in this league that actually have losing records (before they played the Breakerrs). at home this season. The only teams actually.

    The other game has Crocs +4.5 vs the Hawks. The Hawks IMHO are the most inform team right now. Over the past 10 games, they have the best record in the league going 7-3 S/U. Crocs 6th over the last 10 going 4-6 S/U but since sacking Conklin, they have gone 3-2 S/U which isn't bad for them. At home, the Crocs are 4-4 S/U and the Hawks are 3-5 S/U on the road and like what DaveNZ said a few weeks ago, home teams can sometimes rule this league and I agree totally. Now we just have to weed out which home dog is the home dog to take. 

    If the Taipans want to make the playoffs, they need to win. They travel to Sydney after this game and play on Saturday. Apart from the Kings, any team can still make the post-season.  Very intereresting. Would like to hear other people's opinions on this as well. 

    As for the WNBL, possibly the match of the year. Lynx vs Fire in Perth. Line is currently -3 in favour of Perth. Perth are 13-3 ATS this season. Amazing. These teams have already met and its one of the games I actually got right (LOL) when the Fire took advantage of the Lynx poor shooting in the 4Q to win the game and cover the line as well. Amazing that Lynx are -3 vs the reigning champions. Will make a play little later on this game as well.

    BOL everyone, happy NYE as well. 


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    Just cant seem to get anything going lately with both leagues. Tough card tonight with 2 road fav's. Don't think they both cover. Do we actually see 3 road fav's covering in the first 3 games of this round? Dont think so. Need to narrow down which dog to take.

    Cairns are +2.5 right now at home and they are 5-2 S/U at home, their opponents the NZ Breakers are just 3-5 S/U on the road and have won their last 2 on the road beating Kings and Townsville who are both teams in this league that actually have losing records (before they played the Breakerrs). at home this season. The only teams actually.

    The other game has Crocs +4.5 vs the Hawks. The Hawks IMHO are the most inform team right now. Over the past 10 games, they have the best record in the league going 7-3 S/U. Crocs 6th over the last 10 going 4-6 S/U but since sacking Conklin, they have gone 3-2 S/U which isn't bad for them. At home, the Crocs are 4-4 S/U and the Hawks are 3-5 S/U on the road and like what DaveNZ said a few weeks ago, home teams can sometimes rule this league and I agree totally. Now we just have to weed out which home dog is the home dog to take. 

    If the Taipans want to make the playoffs, they need to win. They travel to Sydney after this game and play on Saturday. Apart from the Kings, any team can still make the post-season.  Very intereresting. Would like to hear other people's opinions on this as well. 

    As for the WNBL, possibly the match of the year. Lynx vs Fire in Perth. Line is currently -3 in favour of Perth. Perth are 13-3 ATS this season. Amazing. These teams have already met and its one of the games I actually got right (LOL) when the Fire took advantage of the Lynx poor shooting in the 4Q to win the game and cover the line as well. Amazing that Lynx are -3 vs the reigning champions. Will make a play little later on this game as well.

    BOL everyone, happy NYE as well. 


     
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    Posted: Dec. 31, 2015 - 5:18 AM ET #23

    Anything on WNBL aussiev
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    Anything on WNBL aussiev
     
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    Posted: Dec. 31, 2015 - 5:30 AM ET #24

    Dont think I can ignore Perth at home -2.5
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    Dont think I can ignore Perth at home -2.5
     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 31, 2015 - 5:53 AM ET #25

    On the phone, happy NYE to everyone. Taking Perth Lynx -3 on the WNBL...
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    On the phone, happy NYE to everyone. Taking Perth Lynx -3 on the WNBL...
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