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    SirGargamel
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    Posted: Oct. 20, 2010 - 4:50 AM ET #51

    Quote Originally Posted by Ace77:

    Loves live betting does the SirGarmel


    absolutely, the odd makers are completely reactionary to mini-runs..both nbl/nba, some nice little earnings to be made off similar scenarios as tonight


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ace77:

    Loves live betting does the SirGarmel


    absolutely, the odd makers are completely reactionary to mini-runs..both nbl/nba, some nice little earnings to be made off similar scenarios as tonight


     
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    Posted: Oct. 20, 2010 - 5:04 AM ET #52

    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    You are completely missing my point, completely.....

    What i am saying is, why was there extreme money on the over? Not the line, not the head to head, just the over and it got smashed............The over was locked in by 1/4 time????

    The same on Sunday?

    As Coute said, what were the factors? If Penney came back, then yes, completely understand, if a player was a late rule out or a late inclusion, COMPLETELY understand.......

    The lineups were known a week ago, everyone knew Penney wasnt back.......Perth have the same team, NZ have the same team,

    I made note players were getting molested on Sunday with no calls, today, a player got looked at and it was a foul........

    I am sorry, to me, this is like the Tandy situation........

    I was commenting on this when Perth were way in front.....so it has nothing to do with this.......


    Rostos, my first post.

    I was very keen on the over, and if you saw the game on Sunday and how the Breakers played most of the year at home last year, you would see why.

    Adelaide played defence at home like Perth were to a lot of teams last year, just brutal. Perth never got a look in, but that changed in the last qtr and the scoring reflected that. 50 point last qtr, with Perth able to run and shoot well.

    Breakers last year at home put up some huge points. Last game these 2 played in NZ went over 200 points! The Breakers defense wasn't going to stop Perth. Perth may have the same team as last week, but they also have a similar team to last year. And they weren't short on scoring then either.

    Need to look at how the teams play against different styles, otherwise you will struggle to win at betting on anything, especially NBL.

    I've now had 6 single bets in each of the games for 6 wins (4 totals, 2 sides), and 3 doubles for 2 wins. Most based on comparing to last year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    You are completely missing my point, completely.....

    What i am saying is, why was there extreme money on the over? Not the line, not the head to head, just the over and it got smashed............The over was locked in by 1/4 time????

    The same on Sunday?

    As Coute said, what were the factors? If Penney came back, then yes, completely understand, if a player was a late rule out or a late inclusion, COMPLETELY understand.......

    The lineups were known a week ago, everyone knew Penney wasnt back.......Perth have the same team, NZ have the same team,

    I made note players were getting molested on Sunday with no calls, today, a player got looked at and it was a foul........

    I am sorry, to me, this is like the Tandy situation........

    I was commenting on this when Perth were way in front.....so it has nothing to do with this.......


    Rostos, my first post.

    I was very keen on the over, and if you saw the game on Sunday and how the Breakers played most of the year at home last year, you would see why.

    Adelaide played defence at home like Perth were to a lot of teams last year, just brutal. Perth never got a look in, but that changed in the last qtr and the scoring reflected that. 50 point last qtr, with Perth able to run and shoot well.

    Breakers last year at home put up some huge points. Last game these 2 played in NZ went over 200 points! The Breakers defense wasn't going to stop Perth. Perth may have the same team as last week, but they also have a similar team to last year. And they weren't short on scoring then either.

    Need to look at how the teams play against different styles, otherwise you will struggle to win at betting on anything, especially NBL.

    I've now had 6 single bets in each of the games for 6 wins (4 totals, 2 sides), and 3 doubles for 2 wins. Most based on comparing to last year.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 20, 2010 - 5:09 AM ET #53

    baz

     

    Joins covers and waits almost 3 years for a discussion worthy of his input.

     

    Tonight is that night

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    baz

     

    Joins covers and waits almost 3 years for a discussion worthy of his input.

     

    Tonight is that night

     
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    Posted: Oct. 20, 2010 - 5:10 AM ET #54

    Baz
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    Posted: Oct. 20, 2010 - 5:10 AM ET #55

    Quote Originally Posted by Ace77:




    Whats the symbolic relevance of your avatar sir



    I like ass hence the ass

    Do you know what my avatar is in reference to?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ace77:




    Whats the symbolic relevance of your avatar sir



    I like ass hence the ass

    Do you know what my avatar is in reference to?

     
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    Posted: Oct. 20, 2010 - 5:12 AM ET #56

    Quote Originally Posted by Aussie Battler:

    Do you know what my avatar is in reference to?




    Child please
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aussie Battler:

    Do you know what my avatar is in reference to?




    Child please
     
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    Posted: Oct. 20, 2010 - 5:15 AM ET #57

    Quote Originally Posted by Ace77:




    Child please

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ace77:




    Child please

     
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    Posted: Oct. 20, 2010 - 5:19 AM ET #58

    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    You are completely missing my point, completely.....

    What i am saying is, why was there extreme money on the over? Not the line, not the head to head, just the over and it got smashed............The over was locked in by 1/4 time????

    The same on Sunday?

    As Coute said, what were the factors? If Penney came back, then yes, completely understand, if a player was a late rule out or a late inclusion, COMPLETELY understand.......

    The lineups were known a week ago, everyone knew Penney wasnt back.......Perth have the same team, NZ have the same team,

    I made note players were getting molested on Sunday with no calls, today, a player got looked at and it was a foul........

    I am sorry, to me, this is like the Tandy situation........

    I was commenting on this when Perth were way in front.....so it has nothing to do with this.......





    You act as if you are missing some top secret government information passed on by the evil alien leader known as Lord Xenu,in reality the Breakers are just proven over machines at home.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    You are completely missing my point, completely.....

    What i am saying is, why was there extreme money on the over? Not the line, not the head to head, just the over and it got smashed............The over was locked in by 1/4 time????

    The same on Sunday?

    As Coute said, what were the factors? If Penney came back, then yes, completely understand, if a player was a late rule out or a late inclusion, COMPLETELY understand.......

    The lineups were known a week ago, everyone knew Penney wasnt back.......Perth have the same team, NZ have the same team,

    I made note players were getting molested on Sunday with no calls, today, a player got looked at and it was a foul........

    I am sorry, to me, this is like the Tandy situation........

    I was commenting on this when Perth were way in front.....so it has nothing to do with this.......





    You act as if you are missing some top secret government information passed on by the evil alien leader known as Lord Xenu,in reality the Breakers are just proven over machines at home.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 20, 2010 - 5:25 AM ET #59

    A bookie this year when all the shit about the Tandy incident came up said that the Tigers , Storm game at leichardt was dodgy.........Everyone remember that?

    The bookie said that game was dodgy...........

    U see, that game was NOT dodgy, the storm RESTED a number of players and the public got hold of that info BEFORE the books did......Stiff shit to them......Why was the bookmaker even talking about that game?

    NOW, this game, no late exclusions or inclusions. When u see LARGE LARGE bets, they are generally on H2H or Line.......Very very rarely do u see a large movement on a O/U.....Especially when there are no changes.....

    I just dont get it...........

    I reckon, bookmakers look for tax write offs from time to time, what better way to show a loss by washing money through bets......

    If i was a boommaker and wanted to do the dodgy, i would befriend a player(s), then organise them to go over like tonight in a game, use my money to place the bet through various accounts.........pay the money out and there u have the tax loss.......U have effectively washed your money for a nice tax loss, pay off whoever u have to....When u are dealing in tens of millions like these books are, u are left with a nice some that u dont have to pay the taxman......

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    A bookie this year when all the shit about the Tandy incident came up said that the Tigers , Storm game at leichardt was dodgy.........Everyone remember that?

    The bookie said that game was dodgy...........

    U see, that game was NOT dodgy, the storm RESTED a number of players and the public got hold of that info BEFORE the books did......Stiff shit to them......Why was the bookmaker even talking about that game?

    NOW, this game, no late exclusions or inclusions. When u see LARGE LARGE bets, they are generally on H2H or Line.......Very very rarely do u see a large movement on a O/U.....Especially when there are no changes.....

    I just dont get it...........

    I reckon, bookmakers look for tax write offs from time to time, what better way to show a loss by washing money through bets......

    If i was a boommaker and wanted to do the dodgy, i would befriend a player(s), then organise them to go over like tonight in a game, use my money to place the bet through various accounts.........pay the money out and there u have the tax loss.......U have effectively washed your money for a nice tax loss, pay off whoever u have to....When u are dealing in tens of millions like these books are, u are left with a nice some that u dont have to pay the taxman......

     
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    Posted: Oct. 20, 2010 - 5:26 AM ET #60

    oh my brothers
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    oh my brothers
     
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    Posted: Oct. 20, 2010 - 5:30 AM ET #61

    It had been a wonderful evening and what I needed now, to give it the perfect ending, was a little of the Ludwig Van.
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    It had been a wonderful evening and what I needed now, to give it the perfect ending, was a little of the Ludwig Van.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 20, 2010 - 5:32 AM ET #62

    I think Rostos got hit in the head by a Tim Smith cut out pass and it ruined his brain
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    I think Rostos got hit in the head by a Tim Smith cut out pass and it ruined his brain
     
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    Posted: Oct. 20, 2010 - 5:33 AM ET #63

    Quote Originally Posted by Aussie Battler:

    It had been a wonderful evening and what I needed now, to give it the perfect ending, was a little of the Ludwig Van.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Aussie Battler:

    It had been a wonderful evening and what I needed now, to give it the perfect ending, was a little of the Ludwig Van.




     
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    Posted: Oct. 20, 2010 - 5:36 AM ET #64

    And the first thing that flashed into my gulliver was that I'd like to have her right down there on the floor with the old in-out, real savage.
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    And the first thing that flashed into my gulliver was that I'd like to have her right down there on the floor with the old in-out, real savage.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 20, 2010 - 5:37 AM ET #65

    No time for the old in-out, love, I've just come to read the meter.
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    No time for the old in-out, love, I've just come to read the meter.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 20, 2010 - 5:41 AM ET #66

    I don't understand French but i think Battler is saying he wants to spank his missus on the bottom while listening to some German pooftah




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    I don't understand French but i think Battler is saying he wants to spank his missus on the bottom while listening to some German pooftah




     
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    Posted: Oct. 20, 2010 - 5:50 AM ET #67

    Quote Originally Posted by Ace77:

    I don't understand French but i think Battler is saying he wants to spank his missus on the bottom while listening to some German pooftah




    Viddy well, little brother. Viddy well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ace77:

    I don't understand French but i think Battler is saying he wants to spank his missus on the bottom while listening to some German pooftah




    Viddy well, little brother. Viddy well.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 20, 2010 - 5:52 AM ET #68

    Thanks Ace, Battler.

    Haven't posted, but been coming here for a long time for NBA stats in particular...

    Rostos, I think you may also need to consider the market size between NBL and others like NRL, AFL etc. It wouldn't take many bets for bookies to change the lines, totals because market is small. They will not be expecting to hold $100,000. They will also know there is a good chance punters know more than any of "their" experts, so will change lines and prices much quicker than the popular betting sports where they will trust their own judgement.
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    Thanks Ace, Battler.

    Haven't posted, but been coming here for a long time for NBA stats in particular...

    Rostos, I think you may also need to consider the market size between NBL and others like NRL, AFL etc. It wouldn't take many bets for bookies to change the lines, totals because market is small. They will not be expecting to hold $100,000. They will also know there is a good chance punters know more than any of "their" experts, so will change lines and prices much quicker than the popular betting sports where they will trust their own judgement.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 20, 2010 - 6:34 AM ET #69

    How high did the total get in-play? Looks like I might have missed a great under.

    I was sceptical about this game hence the smaller play on it, but hope the books react and post totals in the 160's again. This was a one off. Looking at the matches over the weekend, I can't see another high scoring one to be honest.

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    How high did the total get in-play? Looks like I might have missed a great under.

    I was sceptical about this game hence the smaller play on it, but hope the books react and post totals in the 160's again. This was a one off. Looking at the matches over the weekend, I can't see another high scoring one to be honest.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 20, 2010 - 6:53 AM ET #70

    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    A bookie this year when all the shit about the Tandy incident came up said that the Tigers , Storm game at leichardt was dodgy.........Everyone remember that?

    The bookie said that game was dodgy...........

    U see, that game was NOT dodgy, the storm RESTED a number of players and the public got hold of that info BEFORE the books did......Stiff shit to them......Why was the bookmaker even talking about that game?

    NOW, this game, no late exclusions or inclusions. When u see LARGE LARGE bets, they are generally on H2H or Line.......Very very rarely do u see a large movement on a O/U.....Especially when there are no changes.....

    I just dont get it...........

    I reckon, bookmakers look for tax write offs from time to time, what better way to show a loss by washing money through bets......

    If i was a boommaker and wanted to do the dodgy, i would befriend a player(s), then organise them to go over like tonight in a game, use my money to place the bet through various accounts.........pay the money out and there u have the tax loss.......U have effectively washed your money for a nice tax loss, pay off whoever u have to....When u are dealing in tens of millions like these books are, u are left with a nice some that u dont have to pay the taxman......



    maybe the books have guys at the breakers training sessions


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    A bookie this year when all the shit about the Tandy incident came up said that the Tigers , Storm game at leichardt was dodgy.........Everyone remember that?

    The bookie said that game was dodgy...........

    U see, that game was NOT dodgy, the storm RESTED a number of players and the public got hold of that info BEFORE the books did......Stiff shit to them......Why was the bookmaker even talking about that game?

    NOW, this game, no late exclusions or inclusions. When u see LARGE LARGE bets, they are generally on H2H or Line.......Very very rarely do u see a large movement on a O/U.....Especially when there are no changes.....

    I just dont get it...........

    I reckon, bookmakers look for tax write offs from time to time, what better way to show a loss by washing money through bets......

    If i was a boommaker and wanted to do the dodgy, i would befriend a player(s), then organise them to go over like tonight in a game, use my money to place the bet through various accounts.........pay the money out and there u have the tax loss.......U have effectively washed your money for a nice tax loss, pay off whoever u have to....When u are dealing in tens of millions like these books are, u are left with a nice some that u dont have to pay the taxman......



    maybe the books have guys at the breakers training sessions


     
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    Posted: Oct. 20, 2010 - 6:54 AM ET #71

    every bet rostos loses is either because the game is fixed or the other team got lucky
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    every bet rostos loses is either because the game is fixed or the other team got lucky
     
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    Posted: Oct. 20, 2010 - 7:09 AM ET #72

    Settle down Rostos. Take a deep breath.

    We had a good run, 5 straight unders. One over is not the end of the world. It's expected that rare games like these shoot over. \

    I aint complaining, I'm still up over 20 units in a shithouse league that's been notorious for hard capping.

    Settle down. Take it easy and fight back on the weekend. Let's not overreact.

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    Settle down Rostos. Take a deep breath.

    We had a good run, 5 straight unders. One over is not the end of the world. It's expected that rare games like these shoot over. \

    I aint complaining, I'm still up over 20 units in a shithouse league that's been notorious for hard capping.

    Settle down. Take it easy and fight back on the weekend. Let's not overreact.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 20, 2010 - 6:39 PM ET #73

    Quote Originally Posted by Bolar:

    How high did the total get in-play? Looks like I might have missed a great under.

    I was sceptical about this game hence the smaller play on it, but hope the books react and post totals in the 160's again. This was a one off. Looking at the matches over the weekend, I can't see another high scoring one to be honest.






    190.5


    Game finished at 190



    TAB Breakers sessions payed off
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bolar:

    How high did the total get in-play? Looks like I might have missed a great under.

    I was sceptical about this game hence the smaller play on it, but hope the books react and post totals in the 160's again. This was a one off. Looking at the matches over the weekend, I can't see another high scoring one to be honest.






    190.5


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    Posted: Oct. 20, 2010 - 9:14 PM ET #74

    TAB Breakers
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    TAB Breakers
     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 20, 2010 - 9:44 PM ET #75

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