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    ESSENDON v ST KILDA
    Friday, February 29, Telstra Dome

    ESSENDON
    1 - Jay Neagle
    4 - Jobe Watson
    5 - Brent Stanton

    6 - Angus Monfries
    9 - Adam Ramanauskas
    10 - Mark McVeigh
    11 - Damien Peverill
    12 - Andrew Welsh
    14 - Jason Johnson
    15 - Courtenay Dempsey
    17 - Jay Nash
    19 - David Hille
    20 - Henry Slattery
    21 - Courtney Johns
    22 - Mal Michael
    25 - Scott Lucas
    26 - Cale Hooker
    27 - Jason Laycock
    29 - Alwyn Davey
    30 - Patrick Ryder
    34 - Rhys Magin
    36 - Sam Lonergan
    37 - Kyle Reimers
    38 - Jarrod Atkinson
    39 - Heath Hocking
    40 - Dean Dick
    41 - Danny Chartres
    43 - Bachar Houli
    44 - Tom Bellchambers

    ST KILDA
    1 - Jason Gram
    2 - Steven King
    3 - Xavier Clarke

    6 - Leigh Fisher
    7 - Lenny Hayes
    10 - Steven Baker
    11 - Leigh Montagna
    12 - Nick Riewoldt
    13 - Adam Schneider
    14 - Luke Ball
    15 - Michael Gardiner
    16 - Raphael Clarke
    17 - Aaron Fiora
    19 - Sam Gilbert
    20 - David Armitage
    22 - Shane Birss
    25 - Sam Fisher
    26 - Nick Dal Santo
    27 - Jason Blake
    28 - Charlie Gardiner
    29 - Michael Rix
    32 - Andrew McQualter
    34 - Jack Steven
    35 - Robert Harvey
    36 - Jarryd Allen
    38 - Clint Jones
    39 - Luke Van Rheenen
    40 - Robert Eddy
    42 - Jarryn Geary
    44 - Stephen Milne

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    ESSENDON v ST KILDA
    Friday, February 29, Telstra Dome

    ESSENDON
    1 - Jay Neagle
    4 - Jobe Watson
    5 - Brent Stanton

    6 - Angus Monfries
    9 - Adam Ramanauskas
    10 - Mark McVeigh
    11 - Damien Peverill
    12 - Andrew Welsh
    14 - Jason Johnson
    15 - Courtenay Dempsey
    17 - Jay Nash
    19 - David Hille
    20 - Henry Slattery
    21 - Courtney Johns
    22 - Mal Michael
    25 - Scott Lucas
    26 - Cale Hooker
    27 - Jason Laycock
    29 - Alwyn Davey
    30 - Patrick Ryder
    34 - Rhys Magin
    36 - Sam Lonergan
    37 - Kyle Reimers
    38 - Jarrod Atkinson
    39 - Heath Hocking
    40 - Dean Dick
    41 - Danny Chartres
    43 - Bachar Houli
    44 - Tom Bellchambers

    ST KILDA
    1 - Jason Gram
    2 - Steven King
    3 - Xavier Clarke

    6 - Leigh Fisher
    7 - Lenny Hayes
    10 - Steven Baker
    11 - Leigh Montagna
    12 - Nick Riewoldt
    13 - Adam Schneider
    14 - Luke Ball
    15 - Michael Gardiner
    16 - Raphael Clarke
    17 - Aaron Fiora
    19 - Sam Gilbert
    20 - David Armitage
    22 - Shane Birss
    25 - Sam Fisher
    26 - Nick Dal Santo
    27 - Jason Blake
    28 - Charlie Gardiner
    29 - Michael Rix
    32 - Andrew McQualter
    34 - Jack Steven
    35 - Robert Harvey
    36 - Jarryd Allen
    38 - Clint Jones
    39 - Luke Van Rheenen
    40 - Robert Eddy
    42 - Jarryn Geary
    44 - Stephen Milne

     
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    4 - Jobe Watson
    5 - Brent Stanton
    10 - Mark McVeigh
    11 - Damien Peverill
    12 - Andrew Welsh
    14 - Jason Johnson
    19 - David Hille
    22 - Mal Michael
    25 - Scott Lucas
    27 - Jason Laycock
    29 - Alwyn Davey
    30 - Patrick Ryder
    12

    2 - Steven King
    3 - Xavier Clarke
    7 - Lenny Hayes
    11 - Leigh Montagna
    12 - Nick Riewoldt
    13 - Adam Schneider
    14 - Luke Ball
    15 - Michael Gardiner
    16 - Raphael Clarke
    17 - Aaron Fiora
    26 - Nick Dal Santo
    35 - Robert Harvey
    44 - Stephen Milne
    13
     
    ess missing lloyd fletcher lovett lovett murray
    saints missing gehrig koziztkie hudgton maguire
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    4 - Jobe Watson
    5 - Brent Stanton
    10 - Mark McVeigh
    11 - Damien Peverill
    12 - Andrew Welsh
    14 - Jason Johnson
    19 - David Hille
    22 - Mal Michael
    25 - Scott Lucas
    27 - Jason Laycock
    29 - Alwyn Davey
    30 - Patrick Ryder
    12

    2 - Steven King
    3 - Xavier Clarke
    7 - Lenny Hayes
    11 - Leigh Montagna
    12 - Nick Riewoldt
    13 - Adam Schneider
    14 - Luke Ball
    15 - Michael Gardiner
    16 - Raphael Clarke
    17 - Aaron Fiora
    26 - Nick Dal Santo
    35 - Robert Harvey
    44 - Stephen Milne
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    ess missing lloyd fletcher lovett lovett murray
    saints missing gehrig koziztkie hudgton maguire
     
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    Posted: Feb. 28, 2008 - 12:42 AM ET #3

    games a pick...before the teams where announced i was leaning to ess due to there form in the first 2 games...but the saints have bought back riewoldt ball harvey hayes gardiner king and schneider a handy group of players..so leaning to saints now since its at telstra as theyve named a strong team.
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    games a pick...before the teams where announced i was leaning to ess due to there form in the first 2 games...but the saints have bought back riewoldt ball harvey hayes gardiner king and schneider a handy group of players..so leaning to saints now since its at telstra as theyve named a strong team.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 28, 2008 - 4:42 AM ET #4

    Saints are definantly the pick here ..... Essendon may have looked good playing a bulldogs team who are going to finish in the bottom 4 this year ...... but they will be taking on the big boys here and will find to the Saints to be to much pressure for them ..... take the HT/FT StKilda
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    Saints are definantly the pick here ..... Essendon may have looked good playing a bulldogs team who are going to finish in the bottom 4 this year ...... but they will be taking on the big boys here and will find to the Saints to be to much pressure for them ..... take the HT/FT StKilda
     
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    Posted: Feb. 29, 2008 - 2:36 AM ET #5

     i took saints -6.5...and a lil on 1st qtr($70) etc at sportsbook
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     i took saints -6.5...and a lil on 1st qtr($70) etc at sportsbook
     
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    Posted: Feb. 29, 2008 - 11:56 PM ET #6

    its not easy in the pre season is it?
     
    I would normally take the dog in the pre season but with the Crows/Hawks I'll be taking the crows 1-39 (+125). I think it'll be a relatively close, hard fought match throughout.
     
    Showme are you taking anybody or have any thoughts on this match?
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    its not easy in the pre season is it?
     
    I would normally take the dog in the pre season but with the Crows/Hawks I'll be taking the crows 1-39 (+125). I think it'll be a relatively close, hard fought match throughout.
     
    Showme are you taking anybody or have any thoughts on this match?
     
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    Ive tipped the hawks to be in the top 4 this year ..... so obviously id be leaning the Hawks ..... But the crows have been laying the beatdown this preseason ..... The home team will win .... i dont know who it is ill have to look ....but i would take the home team
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    Ive tipped the hawks to be in the top 4 this year ..... so obviously id be leaning the Hawks ..... But the crows have been laying the beatdown this preseason ..... The home team will win .... i dont know who it is ill have to look ....but i would take the home team
     
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    that match is to hard to call..both have near full strength teams if one was missing a few id take the other team..staying away ..if its hawks v saints im staying away from the final but if its saints v crows in melb im taking the saints
     

    ADELAIDE v HAWTHORN
    Saturday, March 1, AAMI Stadium, Adelaide

    ADELAIDE
    2 - Brad Moran
    3 - Kris Massie
    4 - Kurt Tippett
    5 - Scott Thompson
    6 - Jonathon Griffin
    7 - Nathan Van Berlo
    8 - Nathan Bassett
    9 - Tyson Edwards
    11 - Michael Doughty
    12 - Robert Shirley
    14 - David Mackay
    15 - Brad Symes
    16 - Ken McGregor
    17 - Bernie Vince
    18 - Graham Johncock
    20 - Ivan Maric
    21 - Chris Knights
    23 - Andrew McLeod
    24 - Brett Burton
    25 - Ben Rutten

    26 - Richard Douglas
    27 - Scott Stevens
    29 - James Sellar
    31 - Bryce Campbell
    33 - Brent Reilly
    36 - Simon Goodwin
    40 - Jason Porplyzia
    44 - Nathan Bock
     
    HAWTHORN
    2 - Jarryd Roughead
    3 - Jordan Lewis
    4 - Rick Ladson
    5 - Sam Mitchell
    6 - Mark Williams
    7 - Michael Osborne
    11 - Clinton Young
    12 - Brad Sewell
    13 - Simon Taylor
    14 - Grant Birchall
    15 - Luke Hodge
    17 - Beau Muston
    18 - Brent Guerra
    20 - Tim Boyle
    22 - Travis Tuck
    23 - Lance Franklin
    24 - Trent Croad

    25 - Tim Clarke
    26 - Zac Dawson
    27 - Stephen Gilham
    28 - Gary Moss
    29 - Tom Murphy
    31 - Stuart Dew
    32 - Xavier Ellis
    33 - Cyril Rioli
    35 - Jarryd Morton
    36 - Josh Kennedy
    39 - Robert Campbell
    44 - Cam Stokes

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    that match is to hard to call..both have near full strength teams if one was missing a few id take the other team..staying away ..if its hawks v saints im staying away from the final but if its saints v crows in melb im taking the saints
     

    ADELAIDE v HAWTHORN
    Saturday, March 1, AAMI Stadium, Adelaide

    ADELAIDE
    2 - Brad Moran
    3 - Kris Massie
    4 - Kurt Tippett
    5 - Scott Thompson
    6 - Jonathon Griffin
    7 - Nathan Van Berlo
    8 - Nathan Bassett
    9 - Tyson Edwards
    11 - Michael Doughty
    12 - Robert Shirley
    14 - David Mackay
    15 - Brad Symes
    16 - Ken McGregor
    17 - Bernie Vince
    18 - Graham Johncock
    20 - Ivan Maric
    21 - Chris Knights
    23 - Andrew McLeod
    24 - Brett Burton
    25 - Ben Rutten

    26 - Richard Douglas
    27 - Scott Stevens
    29 - James Sellar
    31 - Bryce Campbell
    33 - Brent Reilly
    36 - Simon Goodwin
    40 - Jason Porplyzia
    44 - Nathan Bock
     
    HAWTHORN
    2 - Jarryd Roughead
    3 - Jordan Lewis
    4 - Rick Ladson
    5 - Sam Mitchell
    6 - Mark Williams
    7 - Michael Osborne
    11 - Clinton Young
    12 - Brad Sewell
    13 - Simon Taylor
    14 - Grant Birchall
    15 - Luke Hodge
    17 - Beau Muston
    18 - Brent Guerra
    20 - Tim Boyle
    22 - Travis Tuck
    23 - Lance Franklin
    24 - Trent Croad

    25 - Tim Clarke
    26 - Zac Dawson
    27 - Stephen Gilham
    28 - Gary Moss
    29 - Tom Murphy
    31 - Stuart Dew
    32 - Xavier Ellis
    33 - Cyril Rioli
    35 - Jarryd Morton
    36 - Josh Kennedy
    39 - Robert Campbell
    44 - Cam Stokes

     
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    5 - Scott Thompson
    8 - Nathan Bassett
    9 - Tyson Edwards

    16 - Ken McGregor
    18 - Graham Johncock
    23 - Andrew McLeod
    24 - Brett Burton
    25 - Ben Rutten
    36 - Simon Goodwin
    44 - Nathan Bock
    10
     
    5 - Sam Mitchell
    6 - Mark Williams
    15 - Luke Hodge
    18 - Brent Guerra
    23 - Lance Franklin
    24 - Trent Croad
    31 - Stuart Dew
    39 - Robert Campbell
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    5 - Scott Thompson
    8 - Nathan Bassett
    9 - Tyson Edwards

    16 - Ken McGregor
    18 - Graham Johncock
    23 - Andrew McLeod
    24 - Brett Burton
    25 - Ben Rutten
    36 - Simon Goodwin
    44 - Nathan Bock
    10
     
    5 - Sam Mitchell
    6 - Mark Williams
    15 - Luke Hodge
    18 - Brent Guerra
    23 - Lance Franklin
    24 - Trent Croad
    31 - Stuart Dew
    39 - Robert Campbell
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    Posted: Mar. 1, 2008 - 1:39 AM ET #10

    anyone whos with sportsacumen or global sportsbet take rogers +.5 v smith player performance handicap..smith is playing but hes not 100% if this was the regular season he wouldnt play..he might not take many shots or get much court time..even if he was 100% fit its still a slight edge to rogers...
     
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     you're us in the Kings camp and you go to game three with a 1-1 split, we've definitely got (Mark) Worthington back, we're hopeful to get Jason (Smith) back for some minutes and we're on our home court," he said
     
     
    back for some minutes? and they still offer this bet...well ill take that any day of the week.
     
     
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    anyone whos with sportsacumen or global sportsbet take rogers +.5 v smith player performance handicap..smith is playing but hes not 100% if this was the regular season he wouldnt play..he might not take many shots or get much court time..even if he was 100% fit its still a slight edge to rogers...
     
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     you're us in the Kings camp and you go to game three with a 1-1 split, we've definitely got (Mark) Worthington back, we're hopeful to get Jason (Smith) back for some minutes and we're on our home court," he said
     
     
    back for some minutes? and they still offer this bet...well ill take that any day of the week.
     
     
     
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    https://www.nbl.com.au/default.aspx?s=newsdisplay&id=74503

     

    Speaking from Kings headquarters on Friday, Smith revealed his shoulder had improved considerably but remained 'a little sore'.

    But with a grand final showdown against the Tigers on offer for the victor, the 33-year-old said he would not be confined to the bench on Saturday night.

    "Even if it (the shoulder) was like it was like it was on Wednesday I'd play - it's do-or-die now," Smith said.

     

    from the last bit he says i gather it is the same as on wednesday as hes saying hed play if it was do or die on wednesday except its a few days later and he is playing...once again odds are in the punters favour if u take rogers.

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    https://www.nbl.com.au/default.aspx?s=newsdisplay&id=74503

     

    Speaking from Kings headquarters on Friday, Smith revealed his shoulder had improved considerably but remained 'a little sore'.

    But with a grand final showdown against the Tigers on offer for the victor, the 33-year-old said he would not be confined to the bench on Saturday night.

    "Even if it (the shoulder) was like it was like it was on Wednesday I'd play - it's do-or-die now," Smith said.

     

    from the last bit he says i gather it is the same as on wednesday as hes saying hed play if it was do or die on wednesday except its a few days later and he is playing...once again odds are in the punters favour if u take rogers.

     
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    game 1 in sydney
    smith
    4/11 2 pt...3/7 3 pt...1/2 free throws..4 rebounds
    12 pts 4 boards 0 assists..16
     
    rogers
    6/10 2pt...2/5 free throws...6 rebounds ..2 assists
    14 pts 6 boards 2 assists...22
     
    things in yur favour are smiths shoulder might not see him take many shots..game should see alot of boards which is good for rogers and not good for smith as hes a guard..smiths courttime might be llimited..you even get a +.5 on the pick so if its a draw rogers wins.
     
    360 on rogers +.5..not a huge amount( 600 is a megalock) as smith might play 100% and normal minutes as he wont give a shit about his arm and have a good game while rogers can have shockers in the scoring column sometimes.
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    game 1 in sydney
    smith
    4/11 2 pt...3/7 3 pt...1/2 free throws..4 rebounds
    12 pts 4 boards 0 assists..16
     
    rogers
    6/10 2pt...2/5 free throws...6 rebounds ..2 assists
    14 pts 6 boards 2 assists...22
     
    things in yur favour are smiths shoulder might not see him take many shots..game should see alot of boards which is good for rogers and not good for smith as hes a guard..smiths courttime might be llimited..you even get a +.5 on the pick so if its a draw rogers wins.
     
    360 on rogers +.5..not a huge amount( 600 is a megalock) as smith might play 100% and normal minutes as he wont give a shit about his arm and have a good game while rogers can have shockers in the scoring column sometimes.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 1, 2008 - 1:53 AM ET #13

    added 60 ..400 on rogers nothing else on the game line or half time or ingame as anything can happen in this ball game
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    added 60 ..400 on rogers nothing else on the game line or half time or ingame as anything can happen in this ball game
     
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    Posted: Mar. 1, 2008 - 2:20 AM ET #14

    last 4 reg season away games
    P.Rogers  18 17 2 
    P.Rogers  9 5 2 
    P.Rogers  5 8 2 
    P.Rogers  21 9 3
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    last 4 reg season away games
    P.Rogers  18 17 2 
    P.Rogers  9 5 2 
    P.Rogers  5 8 2 
    P.Rogers  21 9 3
     
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    150 brown more pts than smith
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    150 brown more pts than smith
     
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    Posted: Mar. 1, 2008 - 5:50 AM ET #16

    rogers and brown wins 550 for 500 against smiths sore shoulder..if i was a bookie theres no way id offer a head to head with smith having a messed up shoulder..
    won a shit load ingame on kings =20.5-24.5 when up 37 which was a bizarre line.
    +$1400
    +$3400 on the day including NBA
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    rogers and brown wins 550 for 500 against smiths sore shoulder..if i was a bookie theres no way id offer a head to head with smith having a messed up shoulder..
    won a shit load ingame on kings =20.5-24.5 when up 37 which was a bizarre line.
    +$1400
    +$3400 on the day including NBA
     
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    NAB Cup Final
    Adelaide v St Kilda
    Saturday March 8, 7.20pm
    ACDT at AAMI Stadium, Adelaide

    B: Johncock, Rutten, Stevens
    HB: Symes, Bock, van Berlo
    C: McLeod, Thompson, Mackay
    HF: Porplyzia, Tippett, Goodwin
    F: Vince, McGregor, Burton
    Foll: Maric, Reilly, Knights
    I/C: Moran, Griffin, Bassett, Edwards, Doughty, Shirley, Douglas, Campbell
    EMG: Massie, Sellar, Jericho

    ST KILDA
    B:
    Gilbert, Hudghton, Baker
    HB: Gram, S Fisher, L Fisher
    C: Fiora, Hayes, Montagna
    HF: Harvey, Riewoldt, Clarke
    F: Schneider, Koschitzke, Gardiner
    Foll:
    King, Dal Santo, Ball
    I/C (from): Gardiner, Clarke, Rix, Geary, Milne, Jones, Birss, Armitage, Eddy, McQualter, Blake, Allen
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    NAB Cup Final
    Adelaide v St Kilda
    Saturday March 8, 7.20pm
    ACDT at AAMI Stadium, Adelaide

    B: Johncock, Rutten, Stevens
    HB: Symes, Bock, van Berlo
    C: McLeod, Thompson, Mackay
    HF: Porplyzia, Tippett, Goodwin
    F: Vince, McGregor, Burton
    Foll: Maric, Reilly, Knights
    I/C: Moran, Griffin, Bassett, Edwards, Doughty, Shirley, Douglas, Campbell
    EMG: Massie, Sellar, Jericho

    ST KILDA
    B:
    Gilbert, Hudghton, Baker
    HB: Gram, S Fisher, L Fisher
    C: Fiora, Hayes, Montagna
    HF: Harvey, Riewoldt, Clarke
    F: Schneider, Koschitzke, Gardiner
    Foll:
    King, Dal Santo, Ball
    I/C (from): Gardiner, Clarke, Rix, Geary, Milne, Jones, Birss, Armitage, Eddy, McQualter, Blake, Allen
     
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    Johncock Rutten Bock McLeod Thompson Goodwin
    McGregor Burton Bassett Edwards

    Hudghton Fiora Hayes Montagna Harvey Riewoldt Clarke

    Schneider Koschitzke Gardiner King Dal Santo Ball Milne

     


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    Johncock Rutten Bock McLeod Thompson Goodwin
    McGregor Burton Bassett Edwards

    Hudghton Fiora Hayes Montagna Harvey Riewoldt Clarke

    Schneider Koschitzke Gardiner King Dal Santo Ball Milne

     


     
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    Posted: Mar. 6, 2008 - 10:57 PM ET #19

    Crows
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    Crows
     
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    Posted: Mar. 8, 2008 - 1:14 AM ET #20

    qtr time scores...ad saints 3.25 none to get 25 pts in the 1st..qtrs are shorter than in the regular season so might take it
    magies 3.2(20)
    adelaide 3.3(21)
     
    saints 2.4(16)
    geelong 2.2.6(36)
     
     
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    qtr time scores...ad saints 3.25 none to get 25 pts in the 1st..qtrs are shorter than in the regular season so might take it
    magies 3.2(20)
    adelaide 3.3(21)
     
    saints 2.4(16)
    geelong 2.2.6(36)
     
     
     
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    Posted: Mar. 8, 2008 - 2:07 AM ET #21

    $75 none to get 25 pts in the 1st..at 3.25 because of the value as i think it is 50 50 or a 1.90 chance that none get to 25
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    $75 none to get 25 pts in the 1st..at 3.25 because of the value as i think it is 50 50 or a 1.90 chance that none get to 25
     
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    Posted: Mar. 8, 2008 - 2:52 AM ET #22

    These are basically their season sides aren't they.
     
    What is the reduced time showmethemoney, 15 minutes a quarter ?
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    These are basically their season sides aren't they.
     
    What is the reduced time showmethemoney, 15 minutes a quarter ?
     
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    Posted: Mar. 8, 2008 - 3:53 AM ET #23

    17 or 18 i think
     
    10-4 score at qtr time so none to get 25 wins easily..75 for 160 payout
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    17 or 18 i think
     
    10-4 score at qtr time so none to get 25 wins easily..75 for 160 payout
     
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    Posted: Mar. 8, 2008 - 4:02 AM ET #24

    the winner will be who kicks the most behinds
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    the winner will be who kicks the most behinds
     
     
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    Posted: Mar. 8, 2008 - 4:03 AM ET #25

    good call on under 25. hot in adelaide atm so good pick
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    good call on under 25. hot in adelaide atm so good pick
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