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    Bolar
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    Posted: Jan. 16, 2009 - 6:05 PM ET #1

    My units are per every $100.

    I've set myself 1000 units to use. Just incase they bet on stage wins.

    Sometime today I'll be placing these bets on because I need to get prices to cover myself.

    Michael Rogers to win @ $12 (1)
    Luis Leon Sanchez to win @ $7 (1.5)

    Top 3

    Michael Rogers @ $4 (3.5)

    That should cover me for these riders. Michael is in good form. Very good form.

    To win I will also be putting money on the following riders but no price yet as I have to quote them.

    Adam Hansen
    Trent Lowe
    Matthew Lloyd

    These guys are very good young australian riders who are in with a chance. Lloyd finished top 10 last year. I'm going to have Lloyd top 3 aswell. The units will be small as these odds will be probably triple figure. So if they are, they will be only .1 or .2 or something like that.

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    I can't understand Armstrong being favourite. Yes his team couldn't keep up with him on old willunga hill, but this box hasn't raced for like 3 years. He can't expect to win. If he does win, there is something wrong with the quality of the riders nowadays or he's still doping. I would say the latter.

    Rogers @ $12/$4 is a steal if you ask me. He is the favourite over here and I believe it. Strong team to back him up and Columbia are determined to win.

    I might place more on Rogers yet. I'm being conservative considering it's the first race of the season to any profit will be good profit.

    Good luck!
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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    My units are per every $100.

    I've set myself 1000 units to use. Just incase they bet on stage wins.

    Sometime today I'll be placing these bets on because I need to get prices to cover myself.

    Michael Rogers to win @ $12 (1)
    Luis Leon Sanchez to win @ $7 (1.5)

    Top 3

    Michael Rogers @ $4 (3.5)

    That should cover me for these riders. Michael is in good form. Very good form.

    To win I will also be putting money on the following riders but no price yet as I have to quote them.

    Adam Hansen
    Trent Lowe
    Matthew Lloyd

    These guys are very good young australian riders who are in with a chance. Lloyd finished top 10 last year. I'm going to have Lloyd top 3 aswell. The units will be small as these odds will be probably triple figure. So if they are, they will be only .1 or .2 or something like that.

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    I can't understand Armstrong being favourite. Yes his team couldn't keep up with him on old willunga hill, but this box hasn't raced for like 3 years. He can't expect to win. If he does win, there is something wrong with the quality of the riders nowadays or he's still doping. I would say the latter.

    Rogers @ $12/$4 is a steal if you ask me. He is the favourite over here and I believe it. Strong team to back him up and Columbia are determined to win.

    I might place more on Rogers yet. I'm being conservative considering it's the first race of the season to any profit will be good profit.

    Good luck!
     
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    Posted: Jan. 16, 2009 - 7:43 PM ET #2

    Fuck those odds.

    Centrebet have Rogers 21, Sanchez 9.
     
     
    Rogers is $$$$$$$
     
    If they do top 3, his price will be like 7 bucks. $$$$$
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    Fuck those odds.

    Centrebet have Rogers 21, Sanchez 9.
     
     
    Rogers is $$$$$$$
     
    If they do top 3, his price will be like 7 bucks. $$$$$
     
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    Posted: Jan. 19, 2009 - 2:07 AM ET #3


    1.5 units on Rogers to win @ $21
    3.5 units on Rogers to place @ $3

    1 unit on Luis Leon Sanchez to win @ $11
    0.5 unit on Bernard Eisel to win @ $17

    0.3 unit on Adam Hansen to win @ $31
    0.3 unit on Matthew Lloyd to win @ $31

    0.2 unit on Trent Lowe to win @ $67

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    Rogers is my main bet. If any of the others get up, I still make a profit. If Rogers gets up it's pay day.
     
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    The way I see it.
     
    Rogers is the main man. Columbia are strong and last night in the classic showed they are here to win. Rogers is in excellent form. He should excell in Adelaide this week and in California in February, then prepare for July. Can't see him not featuring here. Top 3 at least.
     
    Luis Leon Sanchez is a bet I had to take at those odds. He, like Rogers has won it before. He is also a good climber and I would love to see what he does on Old Willunga hill on Saturday. Maybe break away ala Paris-Nice last year and the TDF on the climb and chrono his way to the line. Caisse are riding for him.
     
    Eisel is a sprinter who can climb. So backing myself there.
     
    Matthew Lloyd is an excellent young rider who shall do well this week. Top 10 last year. Could feature. At those odds you can't leave him out.

    Adam Hansen is also a smokey. If Rogers can't do it, Hansen is Columbia's backup. He made the moves on Old Willunga hill last year to set it up for Greipel. Again, in good form so he shall feature again.

    Trent Lowe is the real good one. Garmin will be looking to make their mark. People think they are riding for Dean and someone else but let me tell you, I expect Lowe to be contesting the final climb on Saturday and could sneak away with it.
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    1.5 units on Rogers to win @ $21
    3.5 units on Rogers to place @ $3

    1 unit on Luis Leon Sanchez to win @ $11
    0.5 unit on Bernard Eisel to win @ $17

    0.3 unit on Adam Hansen to win @ $31
    0.3 unit on Matthew Lloyd to win @ $31

    0.2 unit on Trent Lowe to win @ $67

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    Rogers is my main bet. If any of the others get up, I still make a profit. If Rogers gets up it's pay day.
     
    ----
     
    The way I see it.
     
    Rogers is the main man. Columbia are strong and last night in the classic showed they are here to win. Rogers is in excellent form. He should excell in Adelaide this week and in California in February, then prepare for July. Can't see him not featuring here. Top 3 at least.
     
    Luis Leon Sanchez is a bet I had to take at those odds. He, like Rogers has won it before. He is also a good climber and I would love to see what he does on Old Willunga hill on Saturday. Maybe break away ala Paris-Nice last year and the TDF on the climb and chrono his way to the line. Caisse are riding for him.
     
    Eisel is a sprinter who can climb. So backing myself there.
     
    Matthew Lloyd is an excellent young rider who shall do well this week. Top 10 last year. Could feature. At those odds you can't leave him out.

    Adam Hansen is also a smokey. If Rogers can't do it, Hansen is Columbia's backup. He made the moves on Old Willunga hill last year to set it up for Greipel. Again, in good form so he shall feature again.

    Trent Lowe is the real good one. Garmin will be looking to make their mark. People think they are riding for Dean and someone else but let me tell you, I expect Lowe to be contesting the final climb on Saturday and could sneak away with it.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 19, 2009 - 12:03 PM ET #4

    hey man great write ups , was wondering where you actually played these bets
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    hey man great write ups , was wondering where you actually played these bets
     
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    Posted: Jan. 19, 2009 - 12:05 PM ET #5

    also , do you do matchups fr stages as offered by a major book like bet365 ?
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    also , do you do matchups fr stages as offered by a major book like bet365 ?
     
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    Posted: Jan. 19, 2009 - 2:31 PM ET #6

    By looking at the results from last year, I can't understand why it wouldn't be a sprinter win ? The last 3 km is a perfect flat road. There's nothing scary in the last 30 as well. Rogers is not even figuring on my odds chart. The top 8 ranked cyclists are sprinters. You'd better place some money on Greipel ( 4 times winner last year, 4th yesterday) or Renshaw (Greipel's team partner) I'm not sure it has something to do but Rogers did not finish yesterday.
     
    Using pinnacle sportbook go for :
     
    Greipel vs McEwen @ -125
    Rojas Gil vs Davis @ -105 ( a bit risky, 2 good spinters )
    Davis vs McEwen @ +127
    Renshaw vs Steegmans @ -125
     
    We should see a sprint between Greipel,Rojas,  Davis and Renshaw. I expect Greipel, Rojac, Rensham and Davis as a great finish and a nice pay out.
     
    Give it a try. Armstrong is not in so good shape but it doesn't matter much, he has nothing to win there but as an underdog vs Sanchez ( @ +125) you could feel lucky.
     
     
     
     
     
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    By looking at the results from last year, I can't understand why it wouldn't be a sprinter win ? The last 3 km is a perfect flat road. There's nothing scary in the last 30 as well. Rogers is not even figuring on my odds chart. The top 8 ranked cyclists are sprinters. You'd better place some money on Greipel ( 4 times winner last year, 4th yesterday) or Renshaw (Greipel's team partner) I'm not sure it has something to do but Rogers did not finish yesterday.
     
    Using pinnacle sportbook go for :
     
    Greipel vs McEwen @ -125
    Rojas Gil vs Davis @ -105 ( a bit risky, 2 good spinters )
    Davis vs McEwen @ +127
    Renshaw vs Steegmans @ -125
     
    We should see a sprint between Greipel,Rojas,  Davis and Renshaw. I expect Greipel, Rojac, Rensham and Davis as a great finish and a nice pay out.
     
    Give it a try. Armstrong is not in so good shape but it doesn't matter much, he has nothing to win there but as an underdog vs Sanchez ( @ +125) you could feel lucky.
     
     
     
     
     
     
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    Posted: Jan. 20, 2009 - 10:32 AM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by n1ck:

    . You'd better place some money on Greipel ( 4 times winner last year, 4th yesterday) or Renshaw (Greipel's team partner)
     
    Using pinnacle sportbook go for :
     
    Greipel vs McEwen @ -125          
    Rojas Gil vs Davis @ -105      
    Davis vs McEwen @ +127               
    Renshaw vs Steegmans @ -125    
     
    We should see a sprint between Greipel,Rojas,  Davis and Renshaw. I expect Greipel, Rojac, Rensham and Davis as a great finish and a nice pay out.
     
    Give it a try. Armstrong is not in so good shape but it doesn't matter much, he has nothing to win there but as an underdog vs Sanchez ( @ +125) you could feel lucky.
     


    How about finishing 120th haha Lance. This guy is a JOKE. That is such a pathetic effort. Like I said, any other dude in the matchup would have been a decent bet. You'd have to be unlucky like hell to have one of the 13 other guys behind him in the matchup.But, what the hell is David Moncoutie doing in 122nd place .  Now, can Lance beat Jens Voigt in stage 2 ... Try doing better than a 2 - 2 split and never back the cancer crusader who desperately needs to get doped again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by n1ck:

    . You'd better place some money on Greipel ( 4 times winner last year, 4th yesterday) or Renshaw (Greipel's team partner)
     
    Using pinnacle sportbook go for :
     
    Greipel vs McEwen @ -125          
    Rojas Gil vs Davis @ -105      
    Davis vs McEwen @ +127               
    Renshaw vs Steegmans @ -125    
     
    We should see a sprint between Greipel,Rojas,  Davis and Renshaw. I expect Greipel, Rojac, Rensham and Davis as a great finish and a nice pay out.
     
    Give it a try. Armstrong is not in so good shape but it doesn't matter much, he has nothing to win there but as an underdog vs Sanchez ( @ +125) you could feel lucky.
     


    How about finishing 120th haha Lance. This guy is a JOKE. That is such a pathetic effort. Like I said, any other dude in the matchup would have been a decent bet. You'd have to be unlucky like hell to have one of the 13 other guys behind him in the matchup.But, what the hell is David Moncoutie doing in 122nd place .  Now, can Lance beat Jens Voigt in stage 2 ... Try doing better than a 2 - 2 split and never back the cancer crusader who desperately needs to get doped again.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 20, 2009 - 1:42 PM ET #8

    Lance was always going to sit back in the peloton. He never contests sprints.
     
    Anyway, a sprinter can win this years race, but it's highly doubtful. Today's stage will suit a classics specialist. It's hard seeing today a bunch sprint because of the terrain. Saturday, they don't climb up Old Willunga hill once like last year. They do it twice and mark my words - guys like Sanchez and Rogers will attack. Unless Greipel can do a bunch sprint today and can minimise about 10 - 20 seconds on Saturday, he won't win.
     
    Where are you getting the stage match ups? My place bets are from Betfair and my other bets were from sportingbet.
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    Lance was always going to sit back in the peloton. He never contests sprints.
     
    Anyway, a sprinter can win this years race, but it's highly doubtful. Today's stage will suit a classics specialist. It's hard seeing today a bunch sprint because of the terrain. Saturday, they don't climb up Old Willunga hill once like last year. They do it twice and mark my words - guys like Sanchez and Rogers will attack. Unless Greipel can do a bunch sprint today and can minimise about 10 - 20 seconds on Saturday, he won't win.
     
    Where are you getting the stage match ups? My place bets are from Betfair and my other bets were from sportingbet.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 20, 2009 - 1:43 PM ET #9

    I'm going to today's stage so I'll give you all some info on what happens.
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    I'm going to today's stage so I'll give you all some info on what happens.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 20, 2009 - 2:04 PM ET #10

    Matchups
     
    3.5 units Matty Lloyd over Will Walker @ $1.92
    1.5 units Michael Rogers over Luis Leon Sanchez @ $2.40
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    Matchups
     
    3.5 units Matty Lloyd over Will Walker @ $1.92
    1.5 units Michael Rogers over Luis Leon Sanchez @ $2.40
     
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    Posted: Jan. 20, 2009 - 2:45 PM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by Bolar:

    I'm going to today's stage so I'll give you all some info on what happens.


    Wow nice, better keep your camera out of the way though.

    As for the matchups, please take a look right HERE , they are from Pinnacle and basically are the same as the ones from BET365. Difference is bet365 has so much juice that it's ridiculous.

    Looking forward to hearing your thoughts .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bolar:

    I'm going to today's stage so I'll give you all some info on what happens.


    Wow nice, better keep your camera out of the way though.

    As for the matchups, please take a look right HERE , they are from Pinnacle and basically are the same as the ones from BET365. Difference is bet365 has so much juice that it's ridiculous.

    Looking forward to hearing your thoughts .
     
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    oh sorry , screwed up the link ,  should be a shortcut   HERE 

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    oh sorry , screwed up the link ,  should be a shortcut   HERE 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 20, 2009 - 6:12 PM ET #13

    Elmiger @ +151 vs Roche, team partners, it's a coin toss with good odds

    Isassi @ +155 vs Santambrogio, Isassi can sprint and climb pretty well.

    Rogers @ +145 vs Sanchez, time to impress for Rogers

    Armstrong @ +133 vs Voigt, time to show up for Lance.

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    Went 2-2 yesterday with a record of -0.05 units, playing 1 unit on dogs and whatever it needs of favorite to win 1 unit.
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    Elmiger @ +151 vs Roche, team partners, it's a coin toss with good odds

    Isassi @ +155 vs Santambrogio, Isassi can sprint and climb pretty well.

    Rogers @ +145 vs Sanchez, time to impress for Rogers

    Armstrong @ +133 vs Voigt, time to show up for Lance.

    ___

    Went 2-2 yesterday with a record of -0.05 units, playing 1 unit on dogs and whatever it needs of favorite to win 1 unit.
     
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    Not looking good in those head to heads. I think Rogers was towards the front. and Lloyd attacked the last few laps of the circuit so he might have finished at the back.

    Tactical error again by Columbia - should have sent someone up in the break rather than preserve Greipel's lead. But they are obviously trying to either a) save a Rogers onslaught on Saturday or b) hope greipel makes it to the end of Saturday's stage.

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    Not looking good in those head to heads. I think Rogers was towards the front. and Lloyd attacked the last few laps of the circuit so he might have finished at the back.

    Tactical error again by Columbia - should have sent someone up in the break rather than preserve Greipel's lead. But they are obviously trying to either a) save a Rogers onslaught on Saturday or b) hope greipel makes it to the end of Saturday's stage.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bolar:

    Matchups
     
    3.5 units Matty Lloyd over Will Walker @ $1.92
    1.5 units Michael Rogers over Luis Leon Sanchez @ $2.40


    I am the king.

    5 George Hincapie (USA) Team Columbia - High Road         0.04
    6 José Joaquin Rojas Gil (Spa) Caisse D'Epargne              
    7 Mauro Santambrogio (Ita) Lampre - N.G.C                    
    8 Tom Leezer (Ned) Rabobank                                  
    9 Mickaël Buffaz (Fra) Cofidis                               
    10 André Greipel (Ger) Team Columbia - High Road             
    11 Ryder Hesjedal (Can) Garmin-Slipstream                    
    12 Baden Cooke (Aus) UniSA                                   
    13 Jussi Veikkanen (Fin) Française Des Jeux                  
    14 Wesley Sulzberger (Aus) Française Des Jeux                
    15 Mickaël Chérel (Fra) Française Des Jeux                   
    16 Mathew Hayman (Aus) Rabobank                              
    17 Rémy Di Grégorio (Fra) Française Des Jeux                 
    [U][B]18 Michael Rogers (Aus) Team Columbia - High Road [/B] [/U]          
    19 Nicolas Roche (Irl) AG2R La Mondiale                   0.08
    [B]20 Luis Leon Sanchez Gil (Spa) Caisse D'Epargne    [/B]          
    21 Mathieu Perget (Fra) Caisse D'Epargne                     
    [B][U]22 Matthew Lloyd (Aus) Silence - Lotto [/U][/B]                      
    23 Christian Knees (Ger) Team Milram                         
    24 Iñaki Isasi Flores (Spa) Euskaltel - Euskadi              
    25 Matthew Wilson (Aus) UniSA                                
    26 Vincent Jérôme (Fra) Bbox Bouygues Telecom                
    27 Hubert Schwab (Swi) Quick Step                         0.13
    28 Pieter Jacobs (Bel) Silence - Lotto                       
    29 Simon Clarke (Aus) UniSA                                  
    30 Sébastien Hinault (Fra) AG2R La Mondiale                  
    31 Oscar Pereiro Sio (Spa) Caisse D'Epargne                  
    32 Anders Lund (Den) Team Saxo Bank                          
    33 Javier Megías Leal (Spa) Fuji-Servetto                    
    34 Markel Irizar Aranburu (Spa) Euskaltel - Euskadi          
    [B]35 William Walker (Aus) Fuji-Servetto    [/B]      

    What is more important though is the General Classification

    Rogers now has a 4 second lead over the challengers.

    Assuming that he finishes in the group on Saturday and they drop the sprinters like O'Grady on the last climb and someone like Elmiger isn't there, Rogers is in the box seat. Sanchez and Co are unlikely to escape from Rogers.

    Elmiger or Rogers takes this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bolar:

    Matchups
     
    3.5 units Matty Lloyd over Will Walker @ $1.92
    1.5 units Michael Rogers over Luis Leon Sanchez @ $2.40


    I am the king.

    5 George Hincapie (USA) Team Columbia - High Road         0.04
    6 José Joaquin Rojas Gil (Spa) Caisse D'Epargne              
    7 Mauro Santambrogio (Ita) Lampre - N.G.C                    
    8 Tom Leezer (Ned) Rabobank                                  
    9 Mickaël Buffaz (Fra) Cofidis                               
    10 André Greipel (Ger) Team Columbia - High Road             
    11 Ryder Hesjedal (Can) Garmin-Slipstream                    
    12 Baden Cooke (Aus) UniSA                                   
    13 Jussi Veikkanen (Fin) Française Des Jeux                  
    14 Wesley Sulzberger (Aus) Française Des Jeux                
    15 Mickaël Chérel (Fra) Française Des Jeux                   
    16 Mathew Hayman (Aus) Rabobank                              
    17 Rémy Di Grégorio (Fra) Française Des Jeux                 
    [U][B]18 Michael Rogers (Aus) Team Columbia - High Road [/B] [/U]          
    19 Nicolas Roche (Irl) AG2R La Mondiale                   0.08
    [B]20 Luis Leon Sanchez Gil (Spa) Caisse D'Epargne    [/B]          
    21 Mathieu Perget (Fra) Caisse D'Epargne                     
    [B][U]22 Matthew Lloyd (Aus) Silence - Lotto [/U][/B]                      
    23 Christian Knees (Ger) Team Milram                         
    24 Iñaki Isasi Flores (Spa) Euskaltel - Euskadi              
    25 Matthew Wilson (Aus) UniSA                                
    26 Vincent Jérôme (Fra) Bbox Bouygues Telecom                
    27 Hubert Schwab (Swi) Quick Step                         0.13
    28 Pieter Jacobs (Bel) Silence - Lotto                       
    29 Simon Clarke (Aus) UniSA                                  
    30 Sébastien Hinault (Fra) AG2R La Mondiale                  
    31 Oscar Pereiro Sio (Spa) Caisse D'Epargne                  
    32 Anders Lund (Den) Team Saxo Bank                          
    33 Javier Megías Leal (Spa) Fuji-Servetto                    
    34 Markel Irizar Aranburu (Spa) Euskaltel - Euskadi          
    [B]35 William Walker (Aus) Fuji-Servetto    [/B]      

    What is more important though is the General Classification

    Rogers now has a 4 second lead over the challengers.

    Assuming that he finishes in the group on Saturday and they drop the sprinters like O'Grady on the last climb and someone like Elmiger isn't there, Rogers is in the box seat. Sanchez and Co are unlikely to escape from Rogers.

    Elmiger or Rogers takes this.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bolar:

    Matchups
     
    3.5 units Matty Lloyd over Will Walker @ $1.92
    1.5 units Michael Rogers over Luis Leon Sanchez @ $2.40


    I am the king.

    5 George Hincapie (USA) Team Columbia - High Road         0.04
    6 José Joaquin Rojas Gil (Spa) Caisse D'Epargne              
    7 Mauro Santambrogio (Ita) Lampre - N.G.C                    
    8 Tom Leezer (Ned) Rabobank                                  
    9 Mickaël Buffaz (Fra) Cofidis                               
    10 André Greipel (Ger) Team Columbia - High Road             
    11 Ryder Hesjedal (Can) Garmin-Slipstream                    
    12 Baden Cooke (Aus) UniSA                                   
    13 Jussi Veikkanen (Fin) Française Des Jeux                  
    14 Wesley Sulzberger (Aus) Française Des Jeux                
    15 Mickaël Chérel (Fra) Française Des Jeux                   
    16 Mathew Hayman (Aus) Rabobank                              
    17 Rémy Di Grégorio (Fra) Française Des Jeux                 
    [U][B]18 Michael Rogers (Aus) Team Columbia - High Road [/B] [/U]          
    19 Nicolas Roche (Irl) AG2R La Mondiale                   0.08
    [B]20 Luis Leon Sanchez Gil (Spa) Caisse D'Epargne    [/B]          
    21 Mathieu Perget (Fra) Caisse D'Epargne                     
    [B][U]22 Matthew Lloyd (Aus) Silence - Lotto [/U][/B]                      
    23 Christian Knees (Ger) Team Milram                         
    24 Iñaki Isasi Flores (Spa) Euskaltel - Euskadi              
    25 Matthew Wilson (Aus) UniSA                                
    26 Vincent Jérôme (Fra) Bbox Bouygues Telecom                
    27 Hubert Schwab (Swi) Quick Step                         0.13
    28 Pieter Jacobs (Bel) Silence - Lotto                       
    29 Simon Clarke (Aus) UniSA                                  
    30 Sébastien Hinault (Fra) AG2R La Mondiale                  
    31 Oscar Pereiro Sio (Spa) Caisse D'Epargne                  
    32 Anders Lund (Den) Team Saxo Bank                          
    33 Javier Megías Leal (Spa) Fuji-Servetto                    
    34 Markel Irizar Aranburu (Spa) Euskaltel - Euskadi          
    [B]35 William Walker (Aus) Fuji-Servetto    [/B]      

    What is more important though is the General Classification

    Rogers now has a 4 second lead over the challengers.

    Assuming that he finishes in the group on Saturday and they drop the sprinters like O'Grady on the last climb and someone like Elmiger isn't there, Rogers is in the box seat. Sanchez and Co are unlikely to escape from Rogers.

    Elmiger or Rogers takes this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bolar:

    Matchups
     
    3.5 units Matty Lloyd over Will Walker @ $1.92
    1.5 units Michael Rogers over Luis Leon Sanchez @ $2.40


    I am the king.

    5 George Hincapie (USA) Team Columbia - High Road         0.04
    6 José Joaquin Rojas Gil (Spa) Caisse D'Epargne              
    7 Mauro Santambrogio (Ita) Lampre - N.G.C                    
    8 Tom Leezer (Ned) Rabobank                                  
    9 Mickaël Buffaz (Fra) Cofidis                               
    10 André Greipel (Ger) Team Columbia - High Road             
    11 Ryder Hesjedal (Can) Garmin-Slipstream                    
    12 Baden Cooke (Aus) UniSA                                   
    13 Jussi Veikkanen (Fin) Française Des Jeux                  
    14 Wesley Sulzberger (Aus) Française Des Jeux                
    15 Mickaël Chérel (Fra) Française Des Jeux                   
    16 Mathew Hayman (Aus) Rabobank                              
    17 Rémy Di Grégorio (Fra) Française Des Jeux                 
    [U][B]18 Michael Rogers (Aus) Team Columbia - High Road [/B] [/U]          
    19 Nicolas Roche (Irl) AG2R La Mondiale                   0.08
    [B]20 Luis Leon Sanchez Gil (Spa) Caisse D'Epargne    [/B]          
    21 Mathieu Perget (Fra) Caisse D'Epargne                     
    [B][U]22 Matthew Lloyd (Aus) Silence - Lotto [/U][/B]                      
    23 Christian Knees (Ger) Team Milram                         
    24 Iñaki Isasi Flores (Spa) Euskaltel - Euskadi              
    25 Matthew Wilson (Aus) UniSA                                
    26 Vincent Jérôme (Fra) Bbox Bouygues Telecom                
    27 Hubert Schwab (Swi) Quick Step                         0.13
    28 Pieter Jacobs (Bel) Silence - Lotto                       
    29 Simon Clarke (Aus) UniSA                                  
    30 Sébastien Hinault (Fra) AG2R La Mondiale                  
    31 Oscar Pereiro Sio (Spa) Caisse D'Epargne                  
    32 Anders Lund (Den) Team Saxo Bank                          
    33 Javier Megías Leal (Spa) Fuji-Servetto                    
    34 Markel Irizar Aranburu (Spa) Euskaltel - Euskadi          
    [B]35 William Walker (Aus) Fuji-Servetto    [/B]      

    What is more important though is the General Classification

    Rogers now has a 4 second lead over the challengers.

    Assuming that he finishes in the group on Saturday and they drop the sprinters like O'Grady on the last climb and someone like Elmiger isn't there, Rogers is in the box seat. Sanchez and Co are unlikely to escape from Rogers.

    Elmiger or Rogers takes this.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2009 - 8:33 AM ET #17

    Quote Originally Posted by n1ck:

    Elmiger @ +151 vs Roche   

    Isassi @ +155 vs Santambrogio 

    Rogers @ +145 vs Sanchez   

    Armstrong @ +133 vs Voigt    



    3 dog winners , I'll take that any day . Nicely done.

    Man, your bankroll must really be loving these cycling tours
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    Quote Originally Posted by n1ck:

    Elmiger @ +151 vs Roche   

    Isassi @ +155 vs Santambrogio 

    Rogers @ +145 vs Sanchez   

    Armstrong @ +133 vs Voigt    



    3 dog winners , I'll take that any day . Nicely done.

    Man, your bankroll must really be loving these cycling tours
     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2009 - 8:35 AM ET #18

    Quote Originally Posted by Bolar:


     
    3.5 units Matty Lloyd over Will Walker @ $1.92      
    1.5 units Michael Rogers over Luis Leon Sanchez @ $2.40      


    Perfect 2 - 0 with another dog cashing in. Nicely done as well. This thread has quite a lot of signs in it. Might have to jump on board .

    BOL with your final tour bets .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bolar:


     
    3.5 units Matty Lloyd over Will Walker @ $1.92      
    1.5 units Michael Rogers over Luis Leon Sanchez @ $2.40      


    Perfect 2 - 0 with another dog cashing in. Nicely done as well. This thread has quite a lot of signs in it. Might have to jump on board .

    BOL with your final tour bets .
     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2009 - 2:32 PM ET #19

    Went 3-1 yesterday in plus money, showing a 5-3 record up 3.24 units.

    Another flat stage, therefore once again you should put the best sprinter in your card.

    Greipel went from 1.65 to 1.49, against Brown, but he's still the best sprinter out there, go for it anyway, cost lot of juice.
    Greipel @ -203 vs Brown

    Davis won last stage but Cooke has some sprinter skills as well, he's shown as a big underdog so perfect value.
    Cooke @ +144 vs Davis

    Armstrong did show up a bit last stage, but for #3, he has nothing to win in that sprinter stage. He will take it easy and finish just behind Voigt in early hundred.
    Voigt @ -105 vs Armstrong


    Elmiger did a good job yesterday finished top 5. I expect something good again, battling for overall top 10.
    Elmiger @ -101 vs Santambrogio

    One last pick, O'grady is showing good constance with 2 top 5.
    O'grady @ -105 vs Rojas



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    Went 3-1 yesterday in plus money, showing a 5-3 record up 3.24 units.

    Another flat stage, therefore once again you should put the best sprinter in your card.

    Greipel went from 1.65 to 1.49, against Brown, but he's still the best sprinter out there, go for it anyway, cost lot of juice.
    Greipel @ -203 vs Brown

    Davis won last stage but Cooke has some sprinter skills as well, he's shown as a big underdog so perfect value.
    Cooke @ +144 vs Davis

    Armstrong did show up a bit last stage, but for #3, he has nothing to win in that sprinter stage. He will take it easy and finish just behind Voigt in early hundred.
    Voigt @ -105 vs Armstrong


    Elmiger did a good job yesterday finished top 5. I expect something good again, battling for overall top 10.
    Elmiger @ -101 vs Santambrogio

    One last pick, O'grady is showing good constance with 2 top 5.
    O'grady @ -105 vs Rojas



     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2009 - 9:35 PM ET #20

    Greipel, Reus and Lowe withdraw from the race after a crash, therefore I'm losing 2.03 units on my play against Brown.

    With half race to go, O'grady is looking pretty good.
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    Greipel, Reus and Lowe withdraw from the race after a crash, therefore I'm losing 2.03 units on my play against Brown.

    With half race to go, O'grady is looking pretty good.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 22, 2009 - 12:04 AM ET #21

    Well done on the Elmiger and O'Grady bet. You might have got the Voigt bet.
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    Well done on the Elmiger and O'Grady bet. You might have got the Voigt bet.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 22, 2009 - 10:12 AM ET #22

    Went 3 for 3 yesterday with the finishers.
     
    Voight ranked 12th, Armstrong 32nd +1 unit
    Elmiger ranked 6th, Santambrogio 9th +1unit
    O'grady ranked 3rd, Rojas 7th +1 unit
     
    Unfortunately, Greipel and Cooke did not finish the race.
     
    Ending the day by a loss of 0.03 units showing a +3.21 units with a 8-5 record.
     
     
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    Went 3 for 3 yesterday with the finishers.
     
    Voight ranked 12th, Armstrong 32nd +1 unit
    Elmiger ranked 6th, Santambrogio 9th +1unit
    O'grady ranked 3rd, Rojas 7th +1 unit
     
    Unfortunately, Greipel and Cooke did not finish the race.
     
    Ending the day by a loss of 0.03 units showing a +3.21 units with a 8-5 record.
     
     
     
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    Posted: Jan. 22, 2009 - 10:20 AM ET #23

    O'grady will be my play once again today. He's in a matchup with Rojas.
     
    I'm feeling Brown can do another great race and finish just in front of Davis.
     
    One last, Cherel against Roche. Cherel is showing better results in the last 2 stages, sounds a good pick.
     
    O'grady @ -158 vs Rojas
    Brown @ +135 vs Davis
    Cherel @ +126 vs Roche
     
    Armstrong might show so effort once again, if you wish, odds are good, try it @ +126
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    O'grady will be my play once again today. He's in a matchup with Rojas.
     
    I'm feeling Brown can do another great race and finish just in front of Davis.
     
    One last, Cherel against Roche. Cherel is showing better results in the last 2 stages, sounds a good pick.
     
    O'grady @ -158 vs Rojas
    Brown @ +135 vs Davis
    Cherel @ +126 vs Roche
     
    Armstrong might show so effort once again, if you wish, odds are good, try it @ +126
     
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    Posted: Jan. 22, 2009 - 10:51 AM ET #24

    Quote Originally Posted by n1ck:

     
    Unfortunately, Greipel  did not finish the race.
     


    See, once again, too much juice in a cycling bet leads to a loss. This is a trend that needs to be taken into consideration. Need to look for value around the +100 line if books still offer enough of them as the tour progresses.

    Seems like Amstrong is locked up with Voigt in the matchups. Any thoughts Bolar ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by n1ck:

     
    Unfortunately, Greipel  did not finish the race.
     


    See, once again, too much juice in a cycling bet leads to a loss. This is a trend that needs to be taken into consideration. Need to look for value around the +100 line if books still offer enough of them as the tour progresses.

    Seems like Amstrong is locked up with Voigt in the matchups. Any thoughts Bolar ?
     
     
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    Posted: Jan. 22, 2009 - 11:45 AM ET #25

    Greipel would have probably won the race, but he has been involved in a crash. Davis was in the same crash but didn't injure himself, finishing 2nd in the stage.
     
    Anyway, someone lost more then I did while betting @1.64 to move it down to 1.49 .
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    Greipel would have probably won the race, but he has been involved in a crash. Davis was in the same crash but didn't injure himself, finishing 2nd in the stage.
     
    Anyway, someone lost more then I did while betting @1.64 to move it down to 1.49 .
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