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    Bolar
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    Posted: Feb. 11, 2011 - 1:14 AM ET #1

    Adelaide to win group 1 @ $2.20
    Collingwood to win group 2 @ $2.10 (The other day)

    Adelaide over Melbourne
    x
    Adelaide over Port
    x
    Carlton over Richmond
    x
    Collingwood over Richmond
    x
    West Coast over Hawthorn
    x
    Fremantle over Hawthorn

    @ $8.94

    I don't think you can multi them anymore. Sportingbet got onto it.

    Looking at team lists, the last four should get up. The first two should get up too with Adelaide having a full strength side.

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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    Adelaide to win group 1 @ $2.20
    Collingwood to win group 2 @ $2.10 (The other day)

    Adelaide over Melbourne
    x
    Adelaide over Port
    x
    Carlton over Richmond
    x
    Collingwood over Richmond
    x
    West Coast over Hawthorn
    x
    Fremantle over Hawthorn

    @ $8.94

    I don't think you can multi them anymore. Sportingbet got onto it.

    Looking at team lists, the last four should get up. The first two should get up too with Adelaide having a full strength side.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 11, 2011 - 1:17 AM ET #2

    Adelaide over Melbourne
    x
    Carlton over Richmond
    x
    West Coast over Hawthorn @ $3.21
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    Adelaide over Melbourne
    x
    Carlton over Richmond
    x
    West Coast over Hawthorn @ $3.21
     
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    Posted: Feb. 11, 2011 - 1:23 AM ET #3

    That bottom bet is Fremantle over Hawthorn.

    That first multi is a shits and giggles one.

    The second one is the bigger one. Can't see those teams losing with their squads even though anything is possible in pre-season.


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    That bottom bet is Fremantle over Hawthorn.

    That first multi is a shits and giggles one.

    The second one is the bigger one. Can't see those teams losing with their squads even though anything is possible in pre-season.


     
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    Posted: Feb. 11, 2011 - 3:22 AM ET #4

    Why did they change the format?

    This is complete bullshit now
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    Why did they change the format?

    This is complete bullshit now
     
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    Posted: Feb. 11, 2011 - 3:32 AM ET #5

    They want to follow what cricket did with 20/20 and what cycling did with revolution track meets.
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    They want to follow what cricket did with 20/20 and what cycling did with revolution track meets.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 11, 2011 - 3:32 AM ET #6

    Primus apparently said he doesn't want to get past this round as he wants proper warm-up matches.
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    Primus apparently said he doesn't want to get past this round as he wants proper warm-up matches.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 11, 2011 - 7:35 PM ET #7

    Bolar and Rod, always enjoy the AFL informative thoughts and picks, as I have followed you both religiously for years nonetheless, just have never been able to afford to wager so much haha.  But I was wondering, what exactly is this pre-season? Are teams split up, is this the reasoning for both Carlton and Collingwood facing Richmond? And are there any different rules for these, such as less minutes or less quarters?
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    Bolar and Rod, always enjoy the AFL informative thoughts and picks, as I have followed you both religiously for years nonetheless, just have never been able to afford to wager so much haha.  But I was wondering, what exactly is this pre-season? Are teams split up, is this the reasoning for both Carlton and Collingwood facing Richmond? And are there any different rules for these, such as less minutes or less quarters?
     
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    Posted: Feb. 11, 2011 - 9:33 PM ET #8

    Just for this weekend and next weekend, they are doing 20 minute halves with rule changes. If you kick a goal from outside 50, you get 9 points. The last person to touch the ball when it goes out of bounds, gets a free kick against them.

    So the idea is to speed up the game and have 3 games in the space of 3 hours.

    When all 18 clubs play this style, in the quarter finals I think it goes back to the normal 15 minute quarters with the same rule changes. Not sure on that.

    But at the moment, the games are shorter and faster.

    The reason why the bets flopped last night I think was because of the weather. It was wet in Adelaide apparently, which always changes things, especially in short matches.

    Tonight's games are indoors.

    Carlton are fielding nearly their full strength team - it all depends on how many senior players play in each game though.
    Collingwood are fielding nearly their full strength team.
    Richmond aren't.

    I'm playing Carlton over Richmond x Collingwood over Richmond @ $2.19

    I'm going to leave the last game alone until the team lists are out. Richmond's side is too young and inexperienced to cope tonight. They will be like Port Adelaide last night IMO.

    Again, as it's pre-season, it warrants small bets because anything can happen (See last night). But if Richmond win a match tonight, I will be very very surprised.
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    Just for this weekend and next weekend, they are doing 20 minute halves with rule changes. If you kick a goal from outside 50, you get 9 points. The last person to touch the ball when it goes out of bounds, gets a free kick against them.

    So the idea is to speed up the game and have 3 games in the space of 3 hours.

    When all 18 clubs play this style, in the quarter finals I think it goes back to the normal 15 minute quarters with the same rule changes. Not sure on that.

    But at the moment, the games are shorter and faster.

    The reason why the bets flopped last night I think was because of the weather. It was wet in Adelaide apparently, which always changes things, especially in short matches.

    Tonight's games are indoors.

    Carlton are fielding nearly their full strength team - it all depends on how many senior players play in each game though.
    Collingwood are fielding nearly their full strength team.
    Richmond aren't.

    I'm playing Carlton over Richmond x Collingwood over Richmond @ $2.19

    I'm going to leave the last game alone until the team lists are out. Richmond's side is too young and inexperienced to cope tonight. They will be like Port Adelaide last night IMO.

    Again, as it's pre-season, it warrants small bets because anything can happen (See last night). But if Richmond win a match tonight, I will be very very surprised.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 12, 2011 - 12:01 AM ET #9

    GL mate. I'm staying away. You just don't know who will be on the field and for how long. I'm with Rod the format now is just stupid and condusive to injuries.
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    GL mate. I'm staying away. You just don't know who will be on the field and for how long. I'm with Rod the format now is just stupid and condusive to injuries.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 12, 2011 - 1:04 AM ET #10

    mate have you seen the site aussiecappers.com?

    was looking for tips on the pre season, and i normally follow you on here pretty regularly...was wondering if you know anything about this website?
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    mate have you seen the site aussiecappers.com?

    was looking for tips on the pre season, and i normally follow you on here pretty regularly...was wondering if you know anything about this website?
     
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    Posted: Feb. 12, 2011 - 1:09 AM ET #11

    Nah never seen it. Will check it out later.

    Note: These plays are small on the pre-season. Nothing too big.
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    Nah never seen it. Will check it out later.

    Note: These plays are small on the pre-season. Nothing too big.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 12, 2011 - 1:11 AM ET #12

    they added spreads of Carlton -6.5 over Richmond and Collingwood -14.5 over Richmond, see what im confused about is that they just play back to back, Richmond does? Collingwood is -9.5 over Carlton

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    they added spreads of Carlton -6.5 over Richmond and Collingwood -14.5 over Richmond, see what im confused about is that they just play back to back, Richmond does? Collingwood is -9.5 over Carlton

     
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    Posted: Feb. 12, 2011 - 1:21 AM ET #13

    Yeah this new format is shit.

    BOL Bolar
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    Yeah this new format is shit.

    BOL Bolar
     
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    Posted: Feb. 12, 2011 - 1:47 AM ET #14

    Yeah this new format is crap.

    But what the team playing back to back do is they play the players who didn't play the first match and give some guys in the first match a chance to play 80 minutes, instead of 40, which equates to 40 minutes less of a real match anyway.

    It's a rubbish format but I see why they are doing it.
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    Yeah this new format is crap.

    But what the team playing back to back do is they play the players who didn't play the first match and give some guys in the first match a chance to play 80 minutes, instead of 40, which equates to 40 minutes less of a real match anyway.

    It's a rubbish format but I see why they are doing it.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 13, 2011 - 12:43 AM ET #15

    I was able to hit the Carlton and Collingwood wagers, what is your thoughts on the spreads tonight?

    West Coast -12 and Fremantle -16 over Hawthorne each is what im feelign

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    I was able to hit the Carlton and Collingwood wagers, what is your thoughts on the spreads tonight?

    West Coast -12 and Fremantle -16 over Hawthorne each is what im feelign

     
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    Posted: Feb. 13, 2011 - 1:15 AM ET #16

    West Coast over Hawthorn
    x
    Fremantle over Hawthorn

    @ $1.64

    West Coast -12.5 @ $1.90
    Fremantle -16.5 @ $1.90

    Hawthorn are fielding a team which includes about 6 of their full strength 22. They have sent over a young team. Fremantle and West Coasta are stacked full of guys in their starting 22's. Should be a similar result to last night.

    Again, small stakes.
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    West Coast over Hawthorn
    x
    Fremantle over Hawthorn

    @ $1.64

    West Coast -12.5 @ $1.90
    Fremantle -16.5 @ $1.90

    Hawthorn are fielding a team which includes about 6 of their full strength 22. They have sent over a young team. Fremantle and West Coasta are stacked full of guys in their starting 22's. Should be a similar result to last night.

    Again, small stakes.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 13, 2011 - 1:17 AM ET #17

    West Coast

    1. Mitch Brown, 3. Andrew Gaff, 5. Brad Ebert, 6. Mark Nicoski, 7. Chris Masten, 9. Nic Naitanui, 10. Scott Selwood, 11. Matt Priddis, 12. Brad Sheppard, 14. Koby Stevens, 15. Tom Swift, 16. Eric Mackenzie, 17. Josh Kennedy, 18. Bradd Dalziell, 19. Tim Houlihan, 20. Dean Cox, 21. Quinten Lynch, 22. Ryan Neates, 23. Darren Glass, 24. Matt Rosa, 25. Shannon Hurn, 26. Sam Butler, 27. Jack Darling, 28. Ashley Smith, 29. Scott Lycett, 31. Will Schofield, 32. Andrew Embley, 33. Jordan Jones, 36. Callum Wilson, 38. Brett Jones, 39. Lewis Broome, 40. Anton Hamp, 41. Andrew Strijk, 43. Ashton Hams, 44. Gerrick Weedon, 45. Jarrad Oakley-Nicholls, 47. Lewis Stevenson
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    West Coast

    1. Mitch Brown, 3. Andrew Gaff, 5. Brad Ebert, 6. Mark Nicoski, 7. Chris Masten, 9. Nic Naitanui, 10. Scott Selwood, 11. Matt Priddis, 12. Brad Sheppard, 14. Koby Stevens, 15. Tom Swift, 16. Eric Mackenzie, 17. Josh Kennedy, 18. Bradd Dalziell, 19. Tim Houlihan, 20. Dean Cox, 21. Quinten Lynch, 22. Ryan Neates, 23. Darren Glass, 24. Matt Rosa, 25. Shannon Hurn, 26. Sam Butler, 27. Jack Darling, 28. Ashley Smith, 29. Scott Lycett, 31. Will Schofield, 32. Andrew Embley, 33. Jordan Jones, 36. Callum Wilson, 38. Brett Jones, 39. Lewis Broome, 40. Anton Hamp, 41. Andrew Strijk, 43. Ashton Hams, 44. Gerrick Weedon, 45. Jarrad Oakley-Nicholls, 47. Lewis Stevenson
     
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    Posted: Feb. 13, 2011 - 1:18 AM ET #18

    Fremantle

    3. Byron Schammer, 6. Greg Broughton, 8. Nick Suban, 9. Adam McPhee, 10. Rhys Palmer, 12. Jon Griffin, 13. Tendai Mzungu, 14. Antoni Grover, 15. Ryan Crowley, 16. David Mundy, 18. Luke McPharlin, 20. Viv Michie, 22.  John Anthony, 23. Chris Mayne, 24. Dylan Roberton, 25. Josh Mellington, 26. Kepler Bradley, 27. Justin Bollenhagen, 28. Peter Faulks, 29. Matthew Pavlich, 30. Zac Clarke, 31. Aaron Sandilands, 34. Nick Lower, 36. Alex Silvagni, 37. Michael Johnson, 41. Paul Duffield, 44. Jesse Crichton, 46. Clancee Pearce, 47. Jay van Berlo
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    Fremantle

    3. Byron Schammer, 6. Greg Broughton, 8. Nick Suban, 9. Adam McPhee, 10. Rhys Palmer, 12. Jon Griffin, 13. Tendai Mzungu, 14. Antoni Grover, 15. Ryan Crowley, 16. David Mundy, 18. Luke McPharlin, 20. Viv Michie, 22.  John Anthony, 23. Chris Mayne, 24. Dylan Roberton, 25. Josh Mellington, 26. Kepler Bradley, 27. Justin Bollenhagen, 28. Peter Faulks, 29. Matthew Pavlich, 30. Zac Clarke, 31. Aaron Sandilands, 34. Nick Lower, 36. Alex Silvagni, 37. Michael Johnson, 41. Paul Duffield, 44. Jesse Crichton, 46. Clancee Pearce, 47. Jay van Berlo
     
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    Posted: Feb. 13, 2011 - 1:20 AM ET #19

    Hawthorn

    1. Max Bailey, 9. Shaun Burgoyne, 13. Kyle Cheney, 16. Isaac Smith, 21. Shane Savage, 22. Travis Tuck, 24. Ben Stratton, 25. Ryan Schoenmakers, 26. Liam Shiels, 28. Paul Puopolo, 29. Tom Murphy, 31. Matthew Suckling, 32. Riley Milne, 33. Cyril Rioli, 34. Brent Renouf, 35. Sam Grimley, 36. Jordan Lisle, 37. Brendan Whitecross, 38. Mitch Hallahan, 40. Jordan Williams, 41. Taylor Duryea, 42. Angus Litherland, 43. Will Sierakowski, 44. Sam Menegola, 45. Tom Schneider, 46. Derick Wanganeen, 47. Luke Breust, 49. Jack Mahony, 50. Nathan Ahmat-Watkins

    By all rights, that squad should get flogged.
     
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    Hawthorn

    1. Max Bailey, 9. Shaun Burgoyne, 13. Kyle Cheney, 16. Isaac Smith, 21. Shane Savage, 22. Travis Tuck, 24. Ben Stratton, 25. Ryan Schoenmakers, 26. Liam Shiels, 28. Paul Puopolo, 29. Tom Murphy, 31. Matthew Suckling, 32. Riley Milne, 33. Cyril Rioli, 34. Brent Renouf, 35. Sam Grimley, 36. Jordan Lisle, 37. Brendan Whitecross, 38. Mitch Hallahan, 40. Jordan Williams, 41. Taylor Duryea, 42. Angus Litherland, 43. Will Sierakowski, 44. Sam Menegola, 45. Tom Schneider, 46. Derick Wanganeen, 47. Luke Breust, 49. Jack Mahony, 50. Nathan Ahmat-Watkins

    By all rights, that squad should get flogged.
     
     
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    Posted: Feb. 13, 2011 - 1:56 AM ET #20

    Quote Originally Posted by Bolar:

    Hawthorn

    1. Max Bailey, 9. Shaun Burgoyne, 13. Kyle Cheney, 16. Isaac Smith, 21. Shane Savage, 22. Travis Tuck, 24. Ben Stratton, 25. Ryan Schoenmakers, 26. Liam Shiels, 28. Paul Puopolo, 29. Tom Murphy, 31. Matthew Suckling, 32. Riley Milne, 33. Cyril Rioli, 34. Brent Renouf, 35. Sam Grimley, 36. Jordan Lisle, 37. Brendan Whitecross, 38. Mitch Hallahan, 40. Jordan Williams, 41. Taylor Duryea, 42. Angus Litherland, 43. Will Sierakowski, 44. Sam Menegola, 45. Tom Schneider, 46. Derick Wanganeen, 47. Luke Breust, 49. Jack Mahony, 50. Nathan Ahmat-Watkins

    By all rights, that squad should get flogged.
     

    wow, as a Hawthorn supporter this really is an ordinary squad, cant see them winning either match.

    I agree with everyone else, shithouse format.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bolar:

    Hawthorn

    1. Max Bailey, 9. Shaun Burgoyne, 13. Kyle Cheney, 16. Isaac Smith, 21. Shane Savage, 22. Travis Tuck, 24. Ben Stratton, 25. Ryan Schoenmakers, 26. Liam Shiels, 28. Paul Puopolo, 29. Tom Murphy, 31. Matthew Suckling, 32. Riley Milne, 33. Cyril Rioli, 34. Brent Renouf, 35. Sam Grimley, 36. Jordan Lisle, 37. Brendan Whitecross, 38. Mitch Hallahan, 40. Jordan Williams, 41. Taylor Duryea, 42. Angus Litherland, 43. Will Sierakowski, 44. Sam Menegola, 45. Tom Schneider, 46. Derick Wanganeen, 47. Luke Breust, 49. Jack Mahony, 50. Nathan Ahmat-Watkins

    By all rights, that squad should get flogged.
     

    wow, as a Hawthorn supporter this really is an ordinary squad, cant see them winning either match.

    I agree with everyone else, shithouse format.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 13, 2011 - 2:08 AM ET #21

    That is what you call taking the piss seeing the Hawks squad. I've not heard of over half those players
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    That is what you call taking the piss seeing the Hawks squad. I've not heard of over half those players
     
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    Posted: Feb. 13, 2011 - 2:13 AM ET #22

    Hahaha.
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    Hahaha.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 13, 2011 - 3:03 AM ET #23

    At the end of the day you only go for the win if you need the prize money.

    Other than that, Hawks are just keeping their stars for a proper 80 minute practice match with normal rules than a 40 minute match with shit rules.
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    At the end of the day you only go for the win if you need the prize money.

    Other than that, Hawks are just keeping their stars for a proper 80 minute practice match with normal rules than a 40 minute match with shit rules.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 13, 2011 - 4:33 AM ET #24

    lol West Coast you spastics
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    lol West Coast you spastics
     
     
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    Posted: Feb. 13, 2011 - 5:16 AM ET #25

    Box Hill Hawks playing alright.
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    Box Hill Hawks playing alright.
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