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    where can I find stats for offensive zone time and puck possession?

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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2013 - 3:52 PM ET #1

    I am trying to find nhl stats for offensive zone time and team puck possession but I cant find these stats anywhere on the web.

    Ideally, I would like to be able to access these stats after each period as I can use these figures for live nhl in game betting but I guess I can work with full game stats.

    I have only seen these nhl stats available in between periods on screen from the networks that are showing the games, but there has to be an easier way to access this information.

    Anyone able to help me out or point me in the right direction?
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    I am trying to find nhl stats for offensive zone time and team puck possession but I cant find these stats anywhere on the web.

    Ideally, I would like to be able to access these stats after each period as I can use these figures for live nhl in game betting but I guess I can work with full game stats.

    I have only seen these nhl stats available in between periods on screen from the networks that are showing the games, but there has to be an easier way to access this information.

    Anyone able to help me out or point me in the right direction?
     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2013 - 7:19 PM ET #2

    Does anyone know where I can find this information? I think this info is valuable to handicapping games

    Good luck betting tonight.
    Any help would be really appreciated
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    Does anyone know where I can find this information? I think this info is valuable to handicapping games

    Good luck betting tonight.
    Any help would be really appreciated
     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2013 - 9:23 PM ET #3

    Is anyone able to help me find this info?
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    Is anyone able to help me find this info?
     
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    Posted: Oct. 25, 2013 - 11:29 PM ET #4

    I was positive that someone could help me out with this. Im aware of Fenwick and Corsi but I want to use both of those alingside the offensive zone time and team puck possession. Any thoughts from seasoned nhl bettors?
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    I was positive that someone could help me out with this. Im aware of Fenwick and Corsi but I want to use both of those alingside the offensive zone time and team puck possession. Any thoughts from seasoned nhl bettors?
     
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    Posted: Oct. 26, 2013 - 12:03 AM ET #5

    Only place I can think of is possibly down deep at NHL.com somewhere. 
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    Only place I can think of is possibly down deep at NHL.com somewhere. 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 26, 2013 - 11:28 PM ET #6

    Thanks for the suggestion. I really appreciate it  


    I  looked on nhl.com. I may have to dig a little deeper. I feel like im going to need 3-4 stopwatches and do this oldschool to get the stats I am looking for. 

    If anyone else can help me out, that would be great. The only other thing i can think of is to call the stats guys at TSN and CBC as, I have only seen these stats onscreen in between periods on their networks. 
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    Thanks for the suggestion. I really appreciate it  


    I  looked on nhl.com. I may have to dig a little deeper. I feel like im going to need 3-4 stopwatches and do this oldschool to get the stats I am looking for. 

    If anyone else can help me out, that would be great. The only other thing i can think of is to call the stats guys at TSN and CBC as, I have only seen these stats onscreen in between periods on their networks. 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 27, 2013 - 9:58 AM ET #7

    Stats Inc. may have them, but that would be a paid service. 
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    Stats Inc. may have them, but that would be a paid service. 
     
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    I looked up stats inc. It seems like the right place to obtain the stats I am looking for, even the live in game stats too. They dont have a price for their services. I emailed them, but haven't received a response.

    I am not sure, but stats inc may be geared more towards offering their services to corporate sports channel and television stations such as espn and tsn. Im concerned that they may not cater to individual members of the public and I am not sure how expensive their services are. A couple hundred dollars a year would be fine. Im hoping it's not too far out of reach finacially
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    I looked up stats inc. It seems like the right place to obtain the stats I am looking for, even the live in game stats too. They dont have a price for their services. I emailed them, but haven't received a response.

    I am not sure, but stats inc may be geared more towards offering their services to corporate sports channel and television stations such as espn and tsn. Im concerned that they may not cater to individual members of the public and I am not sure how expensive their services are. A couple hundred dollars a year would be fine. Im hoping it's not too far out of reach finacially
     
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    BTW. Thanks for the help Lippsman :)
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    BTW. Thanks for the help Lippsman :)
     
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2013 - 12:57 AM ET #10

    Stats inc does have them. Try twitter feeds of the teams and the reporters that follow them
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2013 - 1:36 AM ET #11

    Behindthenet.com 
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2013 - 7:50 AM ET #12

    Quote Originally Posted by StevoSupremo:

    Behindthenet.com 

    Exactly what is this site ?  I went to it and it looks broken. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by StevoSupremo:

    Behindthenet.com 

    Exactly what is this site ?  I went to it and it looks broken. 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2013 - 9:25 AM ET #13

    it's behindthenet.ca

    you won't find offensive zone time stats but you can check the corsi or fenwick metrics for each team [shot differentials].  these are good proxies for puck possession.

    Measuring Puck Possession: The End, Part 1 - Pension Plan Puppets


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    it's behindthenet.ca

    you won't find offensive zone time stats but you can check the corsi or fenwick metrics for each team [shot differentials].  these are good proxies for puck possession.

    Measuring Puck Possession: The End, Part 1 - Pension Plan Puppets


     
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2013 - 6:19 PM ET #14

    The measuring puck possession article is interesting. I wonder if corsi would line up with off zone time given a larger sample size? I do most of my betting in game. If I was able to access live luck possession, live offensive zone time, live corsi and live fenwick, i think it would provide a good insight on which way i would bet providing other stats and variables line up to my liking. It seems that stats inc is the only one that offers some of these stats in real time. Im goi g to attempt to get ahold of them again and see what I can get from them in terms of access to thier site and how kuch it would cost. Ill let you know what I find
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    The measuring puck possession article is interesting. I wonder if corsi would line up with off zone time given a larger sample size? I do most of my betting in game. If I was able to access live luck possession, live offensive zone time, live corsi and live fenwick, i think it would provide a good insight on which way i would bet providing other stats and variables line up to my liking. It seems that stats inc is the only one that offers some of these stats in real time. Im goi g to attempt to get ahold of them again and see what I can get from them in terms of access to thier site and how kuch it would cost. Ill let you know what I find
     
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    I left a message with a rep from stats inc. I should hear back from him in the next fews days.

    Hey Lippsman,

    If this information is too expensive for a regular joe, would this maybe be a product that covers.com would be interested in providing? Stats Inc provides a wealth of information and I think the fact that they offer real time info is really useful for gamblers within this site. The betting landscape has changed as we all know, with the added options of live betting available on most sportsbook platforms. Do you think covers would be interested in providing it's members information from stats inc?

    Im not sure if it would be a free add on for members of the covers only or, if this add on would require a small fee from covers members that would want access to this additional info.
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    I left a message with a rep from stats inc. I should hear back from him in the next fews days.

    Hey Lippsman,

    If this information is too expensive for a regular joe, would this maybe be a product that covers.com would be interested in providing? Stats Inc provides a wealth of information and I think the fact that they offer real time info is really useful for gamblers within this site. The betting landscape has changed as we all know, with the added options of live betting available on most sportsbook platforms. Do you think covers would be interested in providing it's members information from stats inc?

    Im not sure if it would be a free add on for members of the covers only or, if this add on would require a small fee from covers members that would want access to this additional info.
     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 1, 2013 - 6:01 AM ET #16

    The price for Stats Inc. may be a bit pricey for one person. I don't believe Covers uses Stats Inc for any info at all.  Covers will not ever be a paid site, we have went around about this before having a section for paying members where you get more info, or having a section just for new signups and after they demonstrate they will not be a j ackass, then they can go to the regular section. 

    So I can't see them using Stats for anything. 
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    The price for Stats Inc. may be a bit pricey for one person. I don't believe Covers uses Stats Inc for any info at all.  Covers will not ever be a paid site, we have went around about this before having a section for paying members where you get more info, or having a section just for new signups and after they demonstrate they will not be a j ackass, then they can go to the regular section. 

    So I can't see them using Stats for anything. 
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