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Bator,
 
I have had my doubts about you for a while now...why would someone who bets that much $$$ spend their time on a website interfacing with students, degenerates (like myself), and lonely housewives about betting?
 
This is the most impressive write-up, pre or post game, that I have ever read in this forum since joining years ago; and I truly believe that you are legit....not that that should matter one way or the other...I just want to apologize for even what I was thinking.
 
Just one comment on your thoughts....and, yes, I had the Giants (several ways) along with the under. The +350 ML was, indeed, a bad bet; however, the reason it was a "bad bet" was the reason it needed to be bet.
 
Many discussions here in Vegas before the game addressed the issue of the ML...if the spread was 6-7, then +350 would have been legit. At -12, it was way off....which should have been the tipoff that it was the right way to go...not for value, but for success.
 
Post game discussions with Jay Kornegay and the guys from LVSC confirmed that supposition....and the money that just came coming in from the squares (and, yes, I am one of them) kept that ML number at +350 to +400 for the entire 2 weeks.
 
I know that it's 20-20 hindsight; but all the talk after the game was Vegas's apprehension of getting beat bad if the Giants won...the line of -12 was off...not where the quality of teams was concerned (although the Pats ATS had been pretty poor recently), it was off where the amount of Giants money was concerned.
 
Yeah, the guys that flew in here on Friday, partied on Saturday, and watched the game in the "million dollar suite" bet the Pats...but Vegas knew by early in the week that the squares were gonna beat them if the Giants won straight up.
 
So, from a contrarian viewpoint, the fact that the +350 was the worst bet in the history of gambling was correct..and that's why it was the best bet in the history of gambling (not really, just using "literary license")..
 
Once again, many thanks for your contributions to this forum
 
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Quote Originally Posted by steppins69:

Well, I ended up losing $14k on the ML with the Patriots.  Half my life's savings...But in the end, I was the one that submitted the bet.  I don't think anyone could blame you.  That's gambling.  Unfortunetly for me it came on the tail end of 2 other huge losses which put me from $50k down to $14k in 3 weeks.  Tough to take.  But that's the game I played.  Learned a lot in the process and hopefully can get it back up there at some point. Albeit a bit slower this time.  Best of luck to all.
 
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well MrBator I give you props for "manning" up (sorry for that pun).....how much did you lose on the game?  And more importantly how do you deal with big hits like this?  Personally, I dropped $4400 on this to cap off a brutal start of 2008.  I've been gambling for a living for about a year and a half now, and 2008 has just been brutal to me so far.  At Christmas I was riding a good streak in NBA and the poker tables, had the bankroll in the 55k range.  Now it's at 35k, ALL of my bankroll gains from 2007 have been wiped out by this one month stretch.  At this point I'm contemplating hiding under a rock until baseball.....I can't get over the thoughts that every bet I make is going to lose, or every poker buy-in will be quickly rivered away from me.  How do you deal with these stretches?  Thanks.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by thagame247:

well MrBator I give you props for "manning" up (sorry for that pun).....how much did you lose on the game?  And more importantly how do you deal with big hits like this?  Personally, I dropped $4400 on this to cap off a brutal start of 2008.  I've been gambling for a living for about a year and a half now, and 2008 has just been brutal to me so far.  At Christmas I was riding a good streak in NBA and the poker tables, had the bankroll in the 55k range.  Now it's at 35k, ALL of my bankroll gains from 2007 have been wiped out by this one month stretch.  At this point I'm contemplating hiding under a rock until baseball.....I can't get over the thoughts that every bet I make is going to lose, or every poker buy-in will be quickly rivered away from me.  How do you deal with these stretches?  Thanks.

 

stop gambling!   for awhile and re-think your strategies

 
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Posted: #56
nicely said Bator. 
 
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Posted: #57
Bator  It takes class to take a good punch
 
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Too much Brady to Montana comparison.  Montana is the better
QB.  Montana threw the ball way before the recievers made their
final break.  That is why they made such long runs after their
catches. 
 
I knew you where dead Bater when Steven (I went 23 out of the last 25) Nover was on your side.  The house handicapper on covers, the guy just never comes with a winner.
 
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Your the best. Hope you continue to post in the NBA forum!
 
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That was a very classy post Mr. Bator.  Probably one of the best posts I've seen in a while. 
 
As for the game, I had the Giants locked in at +14 right after they beat the Packers in Lambeau.  I saw you were on the other side, and you made some good points, but I just couldn't bring myself to back the Patriots who were terrible ATS in the playoffs and most of the second half of the season.  Having said that, I never in a million years would have imagined the Giants winning straight up, so I too thought the ML was a lock, but didn't bet it.  I just couldn't fathom taking a -400 ML on any sport, especially not a Superbowl.  I mean, risk $4,000 to win $1,000.00?  Sorry, that's a terrible bet in my mind, especially for a SB game where upsets do happen (i.e. Pats/Rams of a few years ago).  I just can't believe so many people risked so much to gain so little, especially after watching the same teams go at it on the last day of the regular season.  There are tons of soccer games that go off at -400 or so and are much more likely to hit than a Superbowl game.
 
I'm also shocked that alot don't have a good money management system in place.  It seems to me many put a large % of their bankroll on the line.  I know it's the SB, the biggest game of the year, but it's just a game.  If it were a regular season game (like the last game of the season) I most likely would have passed.
 
Anyways, sorry about those who lost big on the Pats.  I've had my fare share of tough losses, but you just gotta brush them off and realize the big wins are just around the corner.
 
 
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Posted: #61
I accept your apology...now win it back
 
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Tuff Loss Bator.  I was there with you.  I had my mind made up after seeing the opening line.
 
Myself, I honestly thought the Pats were the right call!  The only thing that saved me was I played hockey instead of sitting by the laptop and dumping more $$$ on the Pats in-game.
 
There I was in the beer gardens booking Giants bets like a mad man from all my buddies.  I thought, you're all wrong!... it's not that easy.
 
It was that easy . 
Oh well next year...........
 
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 I just got in and saw this. I really appreciate the apology. Very Heartfelt.

I just want to bury the hatchett with this skinvin thing as well. It seems that tsw wants it to keep going but I just disreguard his threats. I'm sure it will subside.

TY Mr Bator. It takes a big MAN to apologize this way to the forum.

Good Luck in the future and maybe we'll see you around town.

 
 
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I'm sure I'm one of the many people that tailed you and bet over our head after seeing that you were very confident with the NE. If I did't read your threads, I would have bet $500 on the NYG (my normal rate for SB). I ended up betting 15K on NE (that moneyline still hurts). Oh, well, that's my greed for trying to win 10K too. It'll just take us a while, long long while, to get it back.
 
Please kepp posting your picks and insights. We all know that tailing you is more profitable than picking it ourself.I will still tail you in regular season + playoff but no more in the superbowl
 
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Mr. Bator
 
No need to apologize.  We all make our own decisions in the end.  you can never fault anybody for following you.  like i said before you have won me alot of money before and lost me alot of money.  its part of the game.  i luckily if you remembered did not follow you as i stuck with my guns on the giants and the under.  there is always next year.  hope you never leave covers your inputs is always greatly appreciated.  awesome thread
good luck with the rest of this year.  i will be going to vegas next weekend.  maybe play some futures on MLB.  any long shots look interestring?
 
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I was right with you.   I thought there would be no way in hell New England would lose to the Giants.  Going down as one of the best all time.....what better motivation is there.  There were only 3 other times I felt this confident about a game....the Red Sox game 4 over the Cardinals in the series, the Red Sox game 7 over the Yankess, and the Red Sox Game 4 over the Rockies.   
 
 
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all any of the degenerates in here are looking for is who to bet next to get it back...nice write up, but as soon as you blow through a bunch of winners these losers will be on your side again. Patriots deserved to lose and I was rooting against them in the 4th...and I had money on pats
fuck moss he deserved to be smacked down after acting like he was the hero on one freakin touchdown...he is an ass, and as a WV native and only living 45 minutes from where he is from is was nice to see him be put in his place.
 
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Great Post Bator...Truly a class act
 
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new to the forum, but i have seen other threads slamming Bator for his thoughts and opinions.
 
Bator - don't worry mate these people obviously dont have their own opinions and such is life they think they are hard done by when they follow someone's advice.
 
Although I'll never have the type of bankroll most have I like reading these pages as it gives me a perspective of the common man and also the big hitters.
 
 
 
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tough loss... but as always, lets get that  back and then some.
 
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Wow, is this thread boring.   Everybody get their little notes in yet, or do we still have a few more? 

Let's keep bumping it to the top so we can all sit by the campfire and sing kumbaya
 
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Bator, Nice call on The Under!!!  It was Strong!!!  Let's tear it up in Baseball and March Madness!!!!  I am trying to forget about the Pats loss, I have been betting against them all year, so it stings a little for me also!!!!   Good Luck Man!!!
 
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Very good post Bator.  More impressive are the comments from some of the long time and respected members. 
 
 
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