This is a agrgument that is hard to solve .Peyton is great and has been doing it for years,,They had a great record in a year where 2 of the 4 afc powerhouses had off years .Pats and Steelrs.Only SD has been on pace with Indy ,and Rivers is the only one who should be in the same sentance as Manning,After all he will be handing Peyton and the Colts there ass in the championship game
This is a agrgument that is hard to solve .Peyton is great and has been doing it for years,,They had a great record in a year where 2 of the 4 afc powerhouses had off years .Pats and Steelrs.Only SD has been on pace with Indy ,and Rivers is the only one who should be in the same sentance as Manning,After all he will be handing Peyton and the Colts there ass in the championship game
SteelCash you continue making the argument that ultimately RINGS are how a QB is measured. Maybe with the blinders on you would look and see
Manning 1 ring
Big Ben 2 rings
And think oh shit, Big Ben has more rings. But then when you sit and think about the HORRID defenses Peyton had [and the rare good one] as opposed to Big Ben's top notch defense [and the rare bad one] you would have to assume that playing behind a #1 defense Peyton would have more rings. Is that a fact? Of course not, but NO NUMBER OF RINGS will convince me to take BIG BEN over Peyton in any of the following circumstances.
Starting a franchise for a 1year run.
Picking a QB to QB my team with my life on the line.
Playing behind the #1 defense
SteelCash you continue making the argument that ultimately RINGS are how a QB is measured. Maybe with the blinders on you would look and see
Manning 1 ring
Big Ben 2 rings
And think oh shit, Big Ben has more rings. But then when you sit and think about the HORRID defenses Peyton had [and the rare good one] as opposed to Big Ben's top notch defense [and the rare bad one] you would have to assume that playing behind a #1 defense Peyton would have more rings. Is that a fact? Of course not, but NO NUMBER OF RINGS will convince me to take BIG BEN over Peyton in any of the following circumstances.
Starting a franchise for a 1year run.
Picking a QB to QB my team with my life on the line.
Playing behind the #1 defense
Wow... that was some performance under pressure we just saw in the Super Bowl. ![]()
The guy had Marvin Harrison who averaged over 103 receptions/yr over the span of eight years. He had a running back in Edgerinn James that averaged over 1,300 yds/yr rushing over the span of seven years and caught 356 passes. Add to that Reggie Wayne who is averageing 85 catches a year over the last seven. And I haven't even mentioned Dallas Clark...
This guy should have more than one ring. This is one of the best offenses in NFL history. The fact that he only has one ring shows how much of an underachiever he really is. Good God. Give any good quarterback that much talent, and they win 3 or 4 Super Bowls.
Good grief! And people talk about the defensive units Ben has had and if only Peyton had those. ![]()
Let me guess... Peyton made all those guys good too. They were all first round draft picks but Manning made them better ![]()
Maybe if he had played as good as Brees he'd have another ring. Too bad the pick-6 ruined any hopes of that.
Wow... that was some performance under pressure we just saw in the Super Bowl. ![]()
The guy had Marvin Harrison who averaged over 103 receptions/yr over the span of eight years. He had a running back in Edgerinn James that averaged over 1,300 yds/yr rushing over the span of seven years and caught 356 passes. Add to that Reggie Wayne who is averageing 85 catches a year over the last seven. And I haven't even mentioned Dallas Clark...
This guy should have more than one ring. This is one of the best offenses in NFL history. The fact that he only has one ring shows how much of an underachiever he really is. Good God. Give any good quarterback that much talent, and they win 3 or 4 Super Bowls.
Good grief! And people talk about the defensive units Ben has had and if only Peyton had those. ![]()
Let me guess... Peyton made all those guys good too. They were all first round draft picks but Manning made them better ![]()
Maybe if he had played as good as Brees he'd have another ring. Too bad the pick-6 ruined any hopes of that.
Wow... that was some performance under pressure we just saw in the Super Bowl. ![]()
The guy had Marvin Harrison who averaged over 103 receptions/yr over the span of eight years. He had a running back in Edgerinn James that averaged over 1,300 yds/yr rushing over the span of seven years and caught 356 passes. Add to that Reggie Wayne who is averageing 85 catches a year over the last seven. And I haven't even mentioned Dallas Clark...
This guy should have more than one ring. This is one of the best offenses in NFL history. The fact that he only has one ring shows how much of an underachiever he really is. Good God. Give any good quarterback that much talent, and they win 3 or 4 Super Bowls.
Good grief! And people talk about the defensive units Ben has had and if only Peyton had those. ![]()
Let me guess... Peyton made all those guys good too. They were all first round draft picks but Manning made them better ![]()
Maybe if he had played as good as Brees he'd have another ring. Too bad the pick-6 ruined any hopes of that.
Well said Steel![]()
Wow... that was some performance under pressure we just saw in the Super Bowl. ![]()
The guy had Marvin Harrison who averaged over 103 receptions/yr over the span of eight years. He had a running back in Edgerinn James that averaged over 1,300 yds/yr rushing over the span of seven years and caught 356 passes. Add to that Reggie Wayne who is averageing 85 catches a year over the last seven. And I haven't even mentioned Dallas Clark...
This guy should have more than one ring. This is one of the best offenses in NFL history. The fact that he only has one ring shows how much of an underachiever he really is. Good God. Give any good quarterback that much talent, and they win 3 or 4 Super Bowls.
Good grief! And people talk about the defensive units Ben has had and if only Peyton had those. ![]()
Let me guess... Peyton made all those guys good too. They were all first round draft picks but Manning made them better ![]()
Maybe if he had played as good as Brees he'd have another ring. Too bad the pick-6 ruined any hopes of that.
Well said Steel![]()
This is a agrgument that is hard to solve .Peyton is great and has been doing it for years,,They had a great record in a year where 2 of the 4 afc powerhouses had off years .Pats and Steelrs.Only SD has been on pace with Indy ,and Rivers is the only one who should be in the same sentance as Manning,After all he will be handing Peyton and the Colts there ass in the championship game
THe Saints are playing the worst football out of any team, didn't you start that thread???? Eat your words my friend and I know you took Peyton and lost, have a good BBall season
This is a agrgument that is hard to solve .Peyton is great and has been doing it for years,,They had a great record in a year where 2 of the 4 afc powerhouses had off years .Pats and Steelrs.Only SD has been on pace with Indy ,and Rivers is the only one who should be in the same sentance as Manning,After all he will be handing Peyton and the Colts there ass in the championship game
THe Saints are playing the worst football out of any team, didn't you start that thread???? Eat your words my friend and I know you took Peyton and lost, have a good BBall season
Let's just take a quick look at why he doesn't have more than one ring...
1-16-2000... Tennessee (13-3) beats Indy (13-3) 19-16 in the divisional playoff round. Peyton goes 19 for 42 (ouch) for 227 yds... zero TD's, zero picks for a QB rating of 62.3. Colts score one touchdown. Stellar!
12-30-2000... Miami (11-5) beats the Colts (10-6) 23-17 in the wildcard round. Peyton goes 17 for 32 (ouch) for 194 yds... one TD, zero picks for a QB rating of 82.0. Colts score one TD. Stellar!
1-4-2003... NYJ (9-7) beats the Colts (10-6) 41-0 in the wildcard playoff round. Peyton goes 14-31 for 137 yds... zero TD's and two picks for a QB rating of 31.25 (ouch). Another stellar performance!
1-18-2004... NE (14-2) beats the Colts (12-4) 24-14 in the conference championship. Peyton Manning goes 23 for 47 for 237 yds... one TD and four picks (ouch) for a QB rating of 35.51 (ouch). Outstanding!
1-16-2005... NE (14-2) beats the Colts (12-4) 20-3 in the divisional round. Peyton goes 27 for 42 for 238 yds... zero TD and one pick for a rating of 69.35 (ouch). Legendary!
1-15-2006... Pit (11-5) beats the Colts (14-2) 21-18 in the divisional round. Peyton goes 22 for 38 and 290 yds... one TD and zero picks for a QB rating of 90.9. Little something extra for this one. You may remember the pick that Manning threw to Polamalu late in the 4th qtr. It was called a pick, then reversed. Later, the head of officiating Mike Pereira said it was indeed an interception and that they shouldn't have reversed it. That more than likely would have ended the game with an 11 pt lead and 5:26 remaining. To be fair though, in that game, anything could have happened. Overall though, a good performance.
2-4-2007... Indy (12-4) beats Chicago (13-3) 29-17 in SB XLI 29-17. Peyton goes 25 for 38 and 247 yds... one TD and one pick for a QB rating of 81.8. Not bad. Not great. Doesn't matter. He's a Super Bowl champ.
1-13-2008... SD (11-5) beats the Indy (13-3) 28-24 in the divisional round. Peyton goes 33 for 48 and 402 yds... three TD's and two picks for a QB rating of 97.74. Good numbers in general but the picks I'm sure really hurt his team.
1-3-2009... SD (8-8) beats Indy (12-4) 23-17 in the wildcard round. Peyton goes 25 for 42 and 310 yds... one TD and zero picks for a QB rating of 90.38. Good numbers. He did his job. Still a loss.
2-7-2010... NO (13-3) beats Indy (14-2) 31-17 in Super Bowl XLIV. Peyton goes 31 for 45 and 333 yds... one TD and one pick for a QB rating of 88.47. Of course we all know that the pick (returned for a TD) came late in the game and essentially ended any hopes of his team winning this one. Peyton played well, but made a HUGE mistake at the end. Super Bowl loss.
Let's just take a quick look at why he doesn't have more than one ring...
1-16-2000... Tennessee (13-3) beats Indy (13-3) 19-16 in the divisional playoff round. Peyton goes 19 for 42 (ouch) for 227 yds... zero TD's, zero picks for a QB rating of 62.3. Colts score one touchdown. Stellar!
12-30-2000... Miami (11-5) beats the Colts (10-6) 23-17 in the wildcard round. Peyton goes 17 for 32 (ouch) for 194 yds... one TD, zero picks for a QB rating of 82.0. Colts score one TD. Stellar!
1-4-2003... NYJ (9-7) beats the Colts (10-6) 41-0 in the wildcard playoff round. Peyton goes 14-31 for 137 yds... zero TD's and two picks for a QB rating of 31.25 (ouch). Another stellar performance!
1-18-2004... NE (14-2) beats the Colts (12-4) 24-14 in the conference championship. Peyton Manning goes 23 for 47 for 237 yds... one TD and four picks (ouch) for a QB rating of 35.51 (ouch). Outstanding!
1-16-2005... NE (14-2) beats the Colts (12-4) 20-3 in the divisional round. Peyton goes 27 for 42 for 238 yds... zero TD and one pick for a rating of 69.35 (ouch). Legendary!
1-15-2006... Pit (11-5) beats the Colts (14-2) 21-18 in the divisional round. Peyton goes 22 for 38 and 290 yds... one TD and zero picks for a QB rating of 90.9. Little something extra for this one. You may remember the pick that Manning threw to Polamalu late in the 4th qtr. It was called a pick, then reversed. Later, the head of officiating Mike Pereira said it was indeed an interception and that they shouldn't have reversed it. That more than likely would have ended the game with an 11 pt lead and 5:26 remaining. To be fair though, in that game, anything could have happened. Overall though, a good performance.
2-4-2007... Indy (12-4) beats Chicago (13-3) 29-17 in SB XLI 29-17. Peyton goes 25 for 38 and 247 yds... one TD and one pick for a QB rating of 81.8. Not bad. Not great. Doesn't matter. He's a Super Bowl champ.
1-13-2008... SD (11-5) beats the Indy (13-3) 28-24 in the divisional round. Peyton goes 33 for 48 and 402 yds... three TD's and two picks for a QB rating of 97.74. Good numbers in general but the picks I'm sure really hurt his team.
1-3-2009... SD (8-8) beats Indy (12-4) 23-17 in the wildcard round. Peyton goes 25 for 42 and 310 yds... one TD and zero picks for a QB rating of 90.38. Good numbers. He did his job. Still a loss.
2-7-2010... NO (13-3) beats Indy (14-2) 31-17 in Super Bowl XLIV. Peyton goes 31 for 45 and 333 yds... one TD and one pick for a QB rating of 88.47. Of course we all know that the pick (returned for a TD) came late in the game and essentially ended any hopes of his team winning this one. Peyton played well, but made a HUGE mistake at the end. Super Bowl loss.
Let's just take a quick look at why he doesn't have more than one ring...
1-16-2000... Tennessee (13-3) beats Indy (13-3) 19-16 in the divisional playoff round. Peyton goes 19 for 42 (ouch) for 227 yds... zero TD's, zero picks for a QB rating of 62.3. Colts score one touchdown. Stellar!
12-30-2000... Miami (11-5) beats the Colts (10-6) 23-17 in the wildcard round. Peyton goes 17 for 32 (ouch) for 194 yds... one TD, zero picks for a QB rating of 82.0. Colts score one TD. Stellar!
1-4-2003... NYJ (9-7) beats the Colts (10-6) 41-0 in the wildcard playoff round. Peyton goes 14-31 for 137 yds... zero TD's and two picks for a QB rating of 31.25 (ouch). Another stellar performance!
1-18-2004... NE (14-2) beats the Colts (12-4) 24-14 in the conference championship. Peyton Manning goes 23 for 47 for 237 yds... one TD and four picks (ouch) for a QB rating of 35.51 (ouch). Outstanding!
1-16-2005... NE (14-2) beats the Colts (12-4) 20-3 in the divisional round. Peyton goes 27 for 42 for 238 yds... zero TD and one pick for a rating of 69.35 (ouch). Legendary!
1-15-2006... Pit (11-5) beats the Colts (14-2) 21-18 in the divisional round. Peyton goes 22 for 38 and 290 yds... one TD and zero picks for a QB rating of 90.9. Little something extra for this one. You may remember the pick that Manning threw to Polamalu late in the 4th qtr. It was called a pick, then reversed. Later, the head of officiating Mike Pereira said it was indeed an interception and that they shouldn't have reversed it. That more than likely would have ended the game with an 11 pt lead and 5:26 remaining. To be fair though, in that game, anything could have happened. Overall though, a good performance.
2-4-2007... Indy (12-4) beats Chicago (13-3) 29-17 in SB XLI 29-17. Peyton goes 25 for 38 and 247 yds... one TD and one pick for a QB rating of 81.8. Not bad. Not great. Doesn't matter. He's a Super Bowl champ.
1-13-2008... SD (11-5) beats the Indy (13-3) 28-24 in the divisional round. Peyton goes 33 for 48 and 402 yds... three TD's and two picks for a QB rating of 97.74. Good numbers in general but the picks I'm sure really hurt his team.
1-3-2009... SD (8-8) beats Indy (12-4) 23-17 in the wildcard round. Peyton goes 25 for 42 and 310 yds... one TD and zero picks for a QB rating of 90.38. Good numbers. He did his job. Still a loss.
2-7-2010... NO (13-3) beats Indy (14-2) 31-17 in Super Bowl XLIV. Peyton goes 31 for 45 and 333 yds... one TD and one pick for a QB rating of 88.47. Of course we all know that the pick (returned for a TD) came late in the game and essentially ended any hopes of his team winning this one. Peyton played well, but made a HUGE mistake at the end. Super Bowl loss.
Let's just take a quick look at why he doesn't have more than one ring...
1-16-2000... Tennessee (13-3) beats Indy (13-3) 19-16 in the divisional playoff round. Peyton goes 19 for 42 (ouch) for 227 yds... zero TD's, zero picks for a QB rating of 62.3. Colts score one touchdown. Stellar!
12-30-2000... Miami (11-5) beats the Colts (10-6) 23-17 in the wildcard round. Peyton goes 17 for 32 (ouch) for 194 yds... one TD, zero picks for a QB rating of 82.0. Colts score one TD. Stellar!
1-4-2003... NYJ (9-7) beats the Colts (10-6) 41-0 in the wildcard playoff round. Peyton goes 14-31 for 137 yds... zero TD's and two picks for a QB rating of 31.25 (ouch). Another stellar performance!
1-18-2004... NE (14-2) beats the Colts (12-4) 24-14 in the conference championship. Peyton Manning goes 23 for 47 for 237 yds... one TD and four picks (ouch) for a QB rating of 35.51 (ouch). Outstanding!
1-16-2005... NE (14-2) beats the Colts (12-4) 20-3 in the divisional round. Peyton goes 27 for 42 for 238 yds... zero TD and one pick for a rating of 69.35 (ouch). Legendary!
1-15-2006... Pit (11-5) beats the Colts (14-2) 21-18 in the divisional round. Peyton goes 22 for 38 and 290 yds... one TD and zero picks for a QB rating of 90.9. Little something extra for this one. You may remember the pick that Manning threw to Polamalu late in the 4th qtr. It was called a pick, then reversed. Later, the head of officiating Mike Pereira said it was indeed an interception and that they shouldn't have reversed it. That more than likely would have ended the game with an 11 pt lead and 5:26 remaining. To be fair though, in that game, anything could have happened. Overall though, a good performance.
2-4-2007... Indy (12-4) beats Chicago (13-3) 29-17 in SB XLI 29-17. Peyton goes 25 for 38 and 247 yds... one TD and one pick for a QB rating of 81.8. Not bad. Not great. Doesn't matter. He's a Super Bowl champ.
1-13-2008... SD (11-5) beats the Indy (13-3) 28-24 in the divisional round. Peyton goes 33 for 48 and 402 yds... three TD's and two picks for a QB rating of 97.74. Good numbers in general but the picks I'm sure really hurt his team.
1-3-2009... SD (8-8) beats Indy (12-4) 23-17 in the wildcard round. Peyton goes 25 for 42 and 310 yds... one TD and zero picks for a QB rating of 90.38. Good numbers. He did his job. Still a loss.
2-7-2010... NO (13-3) beats Indy (14-2) 31-17 in Super Bowl XLIV. Peyton goes 31 for 45 and 333 yds... one TD and one pick for a QB rating of 88.47. Of course we all know that the pick (returned for a TD) came late in the game and essentially ended any hopes of his team winning this one. Peyton played well, but made a HUGE mistake at the end. Super Bowl loss.

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