Not sure if u have commented in suma thread before. But been watching him. And he is really solid. To those who are In here bashing him is just amazing. EVERYONE. I REPEAT EVERYONE has bad days. It's never not going to happen. The world would be so much better without people who love to bash people just because its in their DNA. I've seen people go after scal and all the man does is cap his Butt off and give out plays. Never tried to get paid for them or nothing. Suma I bet Atlanta myself and once I seen u was on it I felt more confident about it. Keep doing you brother and don't give these trolls any of your time. The long time cappers and people who post their plays see u and know what u add to the site. So I want to thank you. I leaned colts but kind of scary seeing so many on them. Same with panthers play for me last night. Still undecided. But handshake to you brother
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Not sure if u have commented in suma thread before. But been watching him. And he is really solid. To those who are In here bashing him is just amazing. EVERYONE. I REPEAT EVERYONE has bad days. It's never not going to happen. The world would be so much better without people who love to bash people just because its in their DNA. I've seen people go after scal and all the man does is cap his Butt off and give out plays. Never tried to get paid for them or nothing. Suma I bet Atlanta myself and once I seen u was on it I felt more confident about it. Keep doing you brother and don't give these trolls any of your time. The long time cappers and people who post their plays see u and know what u add to the site. So I want to thank you. I leaned colts but kind of scary seeing so many on them. Same with panthers play for me last night. Still undecided. But handshake to you brother
Can't believe some of the lunacy here. A fluke win does not a capper make. KC did not fundementally win the game.
If your handicapping strategy includes trick plays and fluke turnovers and counting on some magic you will never persevere.
The winning side is not always the right side. Anyone who does not see this has little experience sports betting.
Agree 100%! I said earlier that although I was ecstatic that my Chiefs won the game, I gave many reasons on this forum earlier in the week why I thought they wouldn't win. Handicapping the game is something Suuma does very well, and I suspect long term he might reach a 60-65% win ratio with his logic, hard work and reasoning which will make him a very successful bettor long term! I put Scalabrine and Mega Locks (who is no longer here but demonstrated his ability) in the same category as well with their in depth analysis each week!
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Quote Originally Posted by barneybeans:
Can't believe some of the lunacy here. A fluke win does not a capper make. KC did not fundementally win the game.
If your handicapping strategy includes trick plays and fluke turnovers and counting on some magic you will never persevere.
The winning side is not always the right side. Anyone who does not see this has little experience sports betting.
Agree 100%! I said earlier that although I was ecstatic that my Chiefs won the game, I gave many reasons on this forum earlier in the week why I thought they wouldn't win. Handicapping the game is something Suuma does very well, and I suspect long term he might reach a 60-65% win ratio with his logic, hard work and reasoning which will make him a very successful bettor long term! I put Scalabrine and Mega Locks (who is no longer here but demonstrated his ability) in the same category as well with their in depth analysis each week!
Suuma is good because he works hard at it ... very hard. That is key in capping. He analyzes many many angles with clear and solid reasoning based on fact. I like him. However, if he were to be able to demonstrate long-term ATS success of 60-65%, and I mean over 1000 games minimum, he would be on the cover of SI as the most amazing predictor in history. As good as he is, that will simply never happen. Over 1000 games, I would estimate that 95% of the cappers would be right around 50% success, give or take 1 or maybe 1.5 percentre points ... so between 48.5% and 51.5% and those might easily be a large portion chance/random effects. If Suuma were as good as we all suspect, I would surmise that his success over 1000 games might be in the 52-54% range, and I say that for all good and rare cappers. But no way in the 60-65% range. That is almost impossible and probably impossible. As many of you who read my threads and system picks know, I have a totally different approach from Suuma. Whereas he uses logic and trends and reasoning a lot, I rely upon an already built system that was created over 3 or 4 years and multiple mini experiments to test unbiased statistical facts. The end result is a complex formula that is based on professional statistical analysis and the arrival at a,current best unbiased model based on over 8000 past NFL games. When I tested it over those games, I got around 55 or 56% success, but the best I can say with 100% certainty and with public validation through my postings of 5 picks every week is that I have around 55% success (57-47-1), so after 105 games, a tiny sample still, I am about where I should be based on my tests. So while I might reasonably be able to get 56% with my current best system, that, if true, would be an astonishing success rate. The bottom line is that Suuma represents one way of capping, and I represent a totally different way, and both can be very good, whether 53, 54, 55, or 56% .... but forget 60-65% ... that is fantasy long term. Sure, you might get that over 100-300 games, but a lot of that will be more likely chance. Truth only emerges after 1000 or so, in my humble view, and its why I insisted on a,massive 8000+ database and public verification (currently underway) before feeling I was doing it in a solid way.
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KC,
Suuma is good because he works hard at it ... very hard. That is key in capping. He analyzes many many angles with clear and solid reasoning based on fact. I like him. However, if he were to be able to demonstrate long-term ATS success of 60-65%, and I mean over 1000 games minimum, he would be on the cover of SI as the most amazing predictor in history. As good as he is, that will simply never happen. Over 1000 games, I would estimate that 95% of the cappers would be right around 50% success, give or take 1 or maybe 1.5 percentre points ... so between 48.5% and 51.5% and those might easily be a large portion chance/random effects. If Suuma were as good as we all suspect, I would surmise that his success over 1000 games might be in the 52-54% range, and I say that for all good and rare cappers. But no way in the 60-65% range. That is almost impossible and probably impossible. As many of you who read my threads and system picks know, I have a totally different approach from Suuma. Whereas he uses logic and trends and reasoning a lot, I rely upon an already built system that was created over 3 or 4 years and multiple mini experiments to test unbiased statistical facts. The end result is a complex formula that is based on professional statistical analysis and the arrival at a,current best unbiased model based on over 8000 past NFL games. When I tested it over those games, I got around 55 or 56% success, but the best I can say with 100% certainty and with public validation through my postings of 5 picks every week is that I have around 55% success (57-47-1), so after 105 games, a tiny sample still, I am about where I should be based on my tests. So while I might reasonably be able to get 56% with my current best system, that, if true, would be an astonishing success rate. The bottom line is that Suuma represents one way of capping, and I represent a totally different way, and both can be very good, whether 53, 54, 55, or 56% .... but forget 60-65% ... that is fantasy long term. Sure, you might get that over 100-300 games, but a lot of that will be more likely chance. Truth only emerges after 1000 or so, in my humble view, and its why I insisted on a,massive 8000+ database and public verification (currently underway) before feeling I was doing it in a solid way.
Suuma is good because he works hard at it ... very hard. That is key in capping. He analyzes many many angles with clear and solid reasoning based on fact. I like him. However, if he were to be able to demonstrate long-term ATS success of 60-65%, and I mean over 1000 games minimum, he would be on the cover of SI as the most amazing predictor in history. As good as he is, that will simply never happen. Over 1000 games, I would estimate that 95% of the cappers would be right around 50% success, give or take 1 or maybe 1.5 percentre points ... so between 48.5% and 51.5% and those might easily be a large portion chance/random effects. If Suuma were as good as we all suspect, I would surmise that his success over 1000 games might be in the 52-54% range, and I say that for all good and rare cappers. But no way in the 60-65% range. That is almost impossible and probably impossible. As many of you who read my threads and system picks know, I have a totally different approach from Suuma. Whereas he uses logic and trends and reasoning a lot, I rely upon an already built system that was created over 3 or 4 years and multiple mini experiments to test unbiased statistical facts. The end result is a complex formula that is based on professional statistical analysis and the arrival at a,current best unbiased model based on over 8000 past NFL games. When I tested it over those games, I got around 55 or 56% success, but the best I can say with 100% certainty and with public validation through my postings of 5 picks every week is that I have around 55% success (57-47-1), so after 105 games, a tiny sample still, I am about where I should be based on my tests. So while I might reasonably be able to get 56% with my current best system, that, if true, would be an astonishing success rate. The bottom line is that Suuma represents one way of capping, and I represent a totally different way, and both can be very good, whether 53, 54, 55, or 56% .... but forget 60-65% ... that is fantasy long term. Sure, you might get that over 100-300 games, but a lot of that will be more likely chance. Truth only emerges after 1000 or so, in my humble view, and its why I insisted on a,massive 8000+ database and public verification (currently underway) before feeling I was doing it in a solid way.
Newsflash, no one gives a garbage about your system bro
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Quote Originally Posted by footballsmart:
KC,
Suuma is good because he works hard at it ... very hard. That is key in capping. He analyzes many many angles with clear and solid reasoning based on fact. I like him. However, if he were to be able to demonstrate long-term ATS success of 60-65%, and I mean over 1000 games minimum, he would be on the cover of SI as the most amazing predictor in history. As good as he is, that will simply never happen. Over 1000 games, I would estimate that 95% of the cappers would be right around 50% success, give or take 1 or maybe 1.5 percentre points ... so between 48.5% and 51.5% and those might easily be a large portion chance/random effects. If Suuma were as good as we all suspect, I would surmise that his success over 1000 games might be in the 52-54% range, and I say that for all good and rare cappers. But no way in the 60-65% range. That is almost impossible and probably impossible. As many of you who read my threads and system picks know, I have a totally different approach from Suuma. Whereas he uses logic and trends and reasoning a lot, I rely upon an already built system that was created over 3 or 4 years and multiple mini experiments to test unbiased statistical facts. The end result is a complex formula that is based on professional statistical analysis and the arrival at a,current best unbiased model based on over 8000 past NFL games. When I tested it over those games, I got around 55 or 56% success, but the best I can say with 100% certainty and with public validation through my postings of 5 picks every week is that I have around 55% success (57-47-1), so after 105 games, a tiny sample still, I am about where I should be based on my tests. So while I might reasonably be able to get 56% with my current best system, that, if true, would be an astonishing success rate. The bottom line is that Suuma represents one way of capping, and I represent a totally different way, and both can be very good, whether 53, 54, 55, or 56% .... but forget 60-65% ... that is fantasy long term. Sure, you might get that over 100-300 games, but a lot of that will be more likely chance. Truth only emerges after 1000 or so, in my humble view, and its why I insisted on a,massive 8000+ database and public verification (currently underway) before feeling I was doing it in a solid way.
Newsflash, no one gives a garbage about your system bro
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