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    16' YTD 59-43 (57.8%) +14.81u
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    L2 seasons: 153-109 (58.4%) +37.75u


    Vikes +3.5 -115

    Can Cowboys win by 4+? Absolutely. Can the Vikes keep it close? Absolutely. People don't wanna jump in front of the Cowboys train and that's fine. Cowboys bettors would take this line up to -7 and I am hearing "vegas early christmas gift". For me, it's a simple line value play. At the end of the day, when we lock in our bets, we lock in lines, not teams. The HFA the Vikes get by oddsmakers ranges from 3.5 to 4 points. So this line says the Cowboys are -7 or -7.5 on a neutral field to the Vikings. This line is off in my opinion. Real good home field advantage, prime time, good defense, good special teams - give me +3.5 with the home team in a game that doesn't scream blowout to me. Munnerlyn & Diggs come back which is important for the Vikes. Especially the presence of Diggs is important for the Vikes offense, we will see a better offensive efficiency than last week. Good luck with the Boys, I am taking my chances with the Vikes. P.S. when I locked in my bet, there wasn't any news about Zimmer. But interesting that I am hearing Vikes fans having no real problem with his absence.


    Falcons -4
    +100 (2u)

    Situational spot of the year. The Chiefs just played an emotional full five quarters on SNF at Denver and won an overtime thriller. You know the trend - road teams who played five full quarters (off a tie) are 0-9 SUATS, losing by 16.7 PPG. It's not just a letdown spot, they also have a TNF game vs. Oakland on deck. I don't see them being 100% focused this week. Remember what happened to the last two 'five-quarter-teams' Cardinals and Seahawks, they came out very flat and didn't cover their spreads. Hawks benefited from an early fumble six, otherwise it would have been an easy day for the Saints. Also, the Falcons have been at home the last three weeks. From a matchup standpoint, the Falcons have exactly what it takes to cover a spread vs the Chiefs - a good OL and a phenomenal passing game. Go into a shootout with Alex Smith and Andy Reid and it's gonna be tough for them to keep the pace. Justin Houston & Dee Ford aren't 100%, Marcus Peters is playing on one leg - Falcons should be able to move the ball with ease. What's also intersting, is the pythagorean and FO estimated win differential. Falcons have a +1 pythagorean and a +2.9 estimated value advantage. Seeing a 37-17 type of game. Sold the line to -4 to get an extra 10% on the line. 3.1% of 3.5s have landed on 4.


    Jaguars +4.5
    -110

    Same five-quarters spot for the Broncos who are traveling East to play an early road game against the lowly Jaguars. Trevor Siemian is in a walking boot, so he is either not 100% or Paxton Lynch will get his second career start. Either one smells disaster to me against a somewhat decent defense. It was pretty exciting what the Jaguars have done against the Bills despite conceding 28 points, but the Broncos don't have the kind of big play potential the Bills have with McCoy, Taylor and Watkins. I know that we are talking about a guy who can't play the QB position on the other side, but 4.5 points are still too many in this spot IMO. Could be an ugly close game and if Paxton plays, I can see Jags winning SU.


    Colts pk -110

    The Jets aren't a good Football team, don't let the result vs. NE fool you. Jets have no secondary and no edge rush, Colts gonna move the ball on MNF and should really win this one. Jets offense wouldn't win a shootout vs. Luck.


    More coming.


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    16' YTD 59-43 (57.8%) +14.81u
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    L2 seasons: 153-109 (58.4%) +37.75u


    Vikes +3.5 -115

    Can Cowboys win by 4+? Absolutely. Can the Vikes keep it close? Absolutely. People don't wanna jump in front of the Cowboys train and that's fine. Cowboys bettors would take this line up to -7 and I am hearing "vegas early christmas gift". For me, it's a simple line value play. At the end of the day, when we lock in our bets, we lock in lines, not teams. The HFA the Vikes get by oddsmakers ranges from 3.5 to 4 points. So this line says the Cowboys are -7 or -7.5 on a neutral field to the Vikings. This line is off in my opinion. Real good home field advantage, prime time, good defense, good special teams - give me +3.5 with the home team in a game that doesn't scream blowout to me. Munnerlyn & Diggs come back which is important for the Vikes. Especially the presence of Diggs is important for the Vikes offense, we will see a better offensive efficiency than last week. Good luck with the Boys, I am taking my chances with the Vikes. P.S. when I locked in my bet, there wasn't any news about Zimmer. But interesting that I am hearing Vikes fans having no real problem with his absence.


    Falcons -4
    +100 (2u)

    Situational spot of the year. The Chiefs just played an emotional full five quarters on SNF at Denver and won an overtime thriller. You know the trend - road teams who played five full quarters (off a tie) are 0-9 SUATS, losing by 16.7 PPG. It's not just a letdown spot, they also have a TNF game vs. Oakland on deck. I don't see them being 100% focused this week. Remember what happened to the last two 'five-quarter-teams' Cardinals and Seahawks, they came out very flat and didn't cover their spreads. Hawks benefited from an early fumble six, otherwise it would have been an easy day for the Saints. Also, the Falcons have been at home the last three weeks. From a matchup standpoint, the Falcons have exactly what it takes to cover a spread vs the Chiefs - a good OL and a phenomenal passing game. Go into a shootout with Alex Smith and Andy Reid and it's gonna be tough for them to keep the pace. Justin Houston & Dee Ford aren't 100%, Marcus Peters is playing on one leg - Falcons should be able to move the ball with ease. What's also intersting, is the pythagorean and FO estimated win differential. Falcons have a +1 pythagorean and a +2.9 estimated value advantage. Seeing a 37-17 type of game. Sold the line to -4 to get an extra 10% on the line. 3.1% of 3.5s have landed on 4.


    Jaguars +4.5
    -110

    Same five-quarters spot for the Broncos who are traveling East to play an early road game against the lowly Jaguars. Trevor Siemian is in a walking boot, so he is either not 100% or Paxton Lynch will get his second career start. Either one smells disaster to me against a somewhat decent defense. It was pretty exciting what the Jaguars have done against the Bills despite conceding 28 points, but the Broncos don't have the kind of big play potential the Bills have with McCoy, Taylor and Watkins. I know that we are talking about a guy who can't play the QB position on the other side, but 4.5 points are still too many in this spot IMO. Could be an ugly close game and if Paxton plays, I can see Jags winning SU.


    Colts pk -110

    The Jets aren't a good Football team, don't let the result vs. NE fool you. Jets have no secondary and no edge rush, Colts gonna move the ball on MNF and should really win this one. Jets offense wouldn't win a shootout vs. Luck.


    More coming.


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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2016 - 11:24 AM ET #2

    Thanks for the insights, as always.

     I'll be on the Vikings tonight. I'm hoping to get them at +3.5 -110.

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     I'll be on the Vikings tonight. I'm hoping to get them at +3.5 -110.

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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2016 - 11:37 AM ET #3

    I don't see anything on M Sherels. He is the special teams threat. If he is back I would lean hard on Minny. This changes big on field position on how Cowboys play it
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    I don't see anything on M Sherels. He is the special teams threat. If he is back I would lean hard on Minny. This changes big on field position on how Cowboys play it
     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2016 - 11:56 AM ET #4

    Quote Originally Posted by HabsHater88:

    I don't see anything on M Sherels. He is the special teams threat. If he is back I would lean hard on Minny. This changes big on field position on how Cowboys play it

    Sherels is out, along with Berger and Floyd. 

    Suuma, do you have the $ split for tonight's game? % is 75/25 dal
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    I don't see anything on M Sherels. He is the special teams threat. If he is back I would lean hard on Minny. This changes big on field position on how Cowboys play it

    Sherels is out, along with Berger and Floyd. 

    Suuma, do you have the $ split for tonight's game? % is 75/25 dal
     
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    BOL this week.
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2016 - 12:06 PM ET #6

    Money split is even higher.
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    GL suuma
    What do you call an Eternal Optimist? An accordion player with a beeper!
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2016 - 12:24 PM ET #8

    Man people may want to jump on that Dallas train but I've been stuck on the vikes train. That thanksgiving loss made me want to kick the door open and jump out. Went to take a sh!t and I come back to a loss. Wtf lol.
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    Man people may want to jump on that Dallas train but I've been stuck on the vikes train. That thanksgiving loss made me want to kick the door open and jump out. Went to take a sh!t and I come back to a loss. Wtf lol.
     
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    BTW suuma does zimmer being out change the team in anyway to you? 
    It's all probabilities
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    Quote Originally Posted by SPark1:

    BTW suuma does zimmer being out change the team in anyway to you? 


    It would concern me if they were playing on the road on a short week. But at home giving 3.5 with 6 days to prepare, it's nothing I really worry about. When Kubiak was out, Denver were traveling on a short week and laying 3.5 to San Diego.

    Maybe we say "the loss of Zimmer hurt the team", maybe not.
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    It would concern me if they were playing on the road on a short week. But at home giving 3.5 with 6 days to prepare, it's nothing I really worry about. When Kubiak was out, Denver were traveling on a short week and laying 3.5 to San Diego.

    Maybe we say "the loss of Zimmer hurt the team", maybe not.
     
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    Summa - curious as to what you think about how much the loss of Berger may hurt Minny tonight. Thanks
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    What happened to Zimmer ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonSports:

    Summa - curious as to what you think about how much the loss of Berger may hurt Minny tonight. Thanks


    Might sound weird, but I think the return of Diggs somehow negates the absence of Berger. Bradford can't think about one certain position when playing behind this line.
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    Summa - curious as to what you think about how much the loss of Berger may hurt Minny tonight. Thanks


    Might sound weird, but I think the return of Diggs somehow negates the absence of Berger. Bradford can't think about one certain position when playing behind this line.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by soxfann1:

    What happened to Zimmer ?
    Emergency eye surgery
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    Emergency eye surgery
     
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    Thanks for the reply suuma 
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2016 - 1:33 PM ET #16

    Love the picks Suuuma, with you in all of them
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    Love the Falcons angle.  GL 
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    Quote Originally Posted by SPark1:

    Man people may want to jump on that Dallas train but I've been stuck on the vikes train. That thanksgiving loss made me want to kick the door open and jump out. Went to take a sh!t and I come back to a loss. Wtf lol.

      Maybe you better not take a sh!t until the final whistle :)
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    Man people may want to jump on that Dallas train but I've been stuck on the vikes train. That thanksgiving loss made me want to kick the door open and jump out. Went to take a sh!t and I come back to a loss. Wtf lol.

      Maybe you better not take a sh!t until the final whistle :)
     
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    Thanks as always for the insight Summa.  GLUCK! 
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    Suuma!    
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2016 - 11:42 PM ET #21

    In Suuma we trust

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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2016 - 11:58 PM ET #22

    Lucky cover in the end, but we saw why the line was off. Average offense and special teams, game wouldn't have been close. Cowboys had one full scoring drive which was almost dead before Daks scramble.

    On to Sunday!
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    Lucky cover in the end, but we saw why the line was off. Average offense and special teams, game wouldn't have been close. Cowboys had one full scoring drive which was almost dead before Daks scramble.

    On to Sunday!
     
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    Posted: Dec. 2, 2016 - 9:50 AM ET #23

    KC/ATL - I never understood the whole "they play a rival team next week" angle..  So a team is willing to lose a game and drop 1 behind in the loss column because they're playing a division game of rival the following week? Defeats the whole purpose of trying to gain ground..  

    KC played a tough game yes but that team can punch you in the mouth. They're a legit title contender in my estimation. I see a close game with KC having a shot to win.
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    KC played a tough game yes but that team can punch you in the mouth. They're a legit title contender in my estimation. I see a close game with KC having a shot to win.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 2, 2016 - 9:54 AM ET #24

    Any advice on Raiders game??
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    GL buddy!!


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