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    The NFL is NOT SCRIPTED - CASE CLOSED

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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2018 - 7:52 PM ET #251

    Quote Originally Posted by ILPRATO:

    It’s a fact that certain outcomes are planned by the powers that be.One example was a lakers kings playoff series.The league needed the lakers to advance for ratings and money.The Patrick Ewing lottery with the nba they needed the knicks to be relevant due to their large fanbase to help increase revenue as well as tv ratings.Scripted maybe not, but fixed 100%.Show me 1 industry in the world in which money is involved where there is not some type of thievery it doesn’t exist .I will say not every game is fixed but some are. In the NBA it was done for survival back in the day. In the NFL whether it be a ref getting paid off or the league desiring a beneficial outcome these things happen more frequently than you think.In fact several years ago Tim Donaghy spoke at my sons school and came out and said games are fixed!People can believe what they want but absolutely certain outcomes are FIXED.

    Bravo, you are awakean_light

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    Quote Originally Posted by ILPRATO:

    It’s a fact that certain outcomes are planned by the powers that be.One example was a lakers kings playoff series.The league needed the lakers to advance for ratings and money.The Patrick Ewing lottery with the nba they needed the knicks to be relevant due to their large fanbase to help increase revenue as well as tv ratings.Scripted maybe not, but fixed 100%.Show me 1 industry in the world in which money is involved where there is not some type of thievery it doesn’t exist .I will say not every game is fixed but some are. In the NBA it was done for survival back in the day. In the NFL whether it be a ref getting paid off or the league desiring a beneficial outcome these things happen more frequently than you think.In fact several years ago Tim Donaghy spoke at my sons school and came out and said games are fixed!People can believe what they want but absolutely certain outcomes are FIXED.

    Bravo, you are awakean_light

     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2018 - 8:38 PM ET #252

    Quote Originally Posted by lancer89074:

    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorSuccess:

    Looks like we have two distinct camps on this issue. One side thinks NFL games are legit. The other side believes they are fixed and scripted. The legit side has evidence, including injuries, to support their claim.The fixed/scripted side has zero evidence outside of a few mob bosses from the 1940s and 50s, and Cap-master, who is able to call out every play of every game including the final score.I'm with the first camp.
    Your summation is mistaken as my posts contained detailed proof. Maybe you should use your literacy for something more than reading tavern signs?  There are at least 3 camps or more. Some who believe that the NFL is pure as the driven snow (you, the naive among us, and the bookmakers who profit from it), then there are some who think that games are fixed by refs (obvious), and then some who believe that games are scripted (I don't as all that is needed is one dirty ref to influence the outcome of a game)... Art Schlichterjr is still waiting for Tiger to win another major and also for Peyton Manning to throw that opening td pass over Richard Sherman's head in the super-bowl. His namesake says it all. Art the fart was wrong then and he is wrong now.
    And once again...blah.blah.blah.  and no estimate of the number of players involved..  Why ? Simple for their theory to be correct it would have to be in the thousands for just the last 20 year period and even a simpleton of the highest degree would realize that if so many people knew it would have to leak out at some point.. If you do think this number of people could keep this a secret for so long you are plain and simple an IDIOT.. an_laugh

    Be careful with the axe Eugene.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lancer89074:

    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorSuccess:

    Looks like we have two distinct camps on this issue. One side thinks NFL games are legit. The other side believes they are fixed and scripted. The legit side has evidence, including injuries, to support their claim.The fixed/scripted side has zero evidence outside of a few mob bosses from the 1940s and 50s, and Cap-master, who is able to call out every play of every game including the final score.I'm with the first camp.
    Your summation is mistaken as my posts contained detailed proof. Maybe you should use your literacy for something more than reading tavern signs?  There are at least 3 camps or more. Some who believe that the NFL is pure as the driven snow (you, the naive among us, and the bookmakers who profit from it), then there are some who think that games are fixed by refs (obvious), and then some who believe that games are scripted (I don't as all that is needed is one dirty ref to influence the outcome of a game)... Art Schlichterjr is still waiting for Tiger to win another major and also for Peyton Manning to throw that opening td pass over Richard Sherman's head in the super-bowl. His namesake says it all. Art the fart was wrong then and he is wrong now.
    And once again...blah.blah.blah.  and no estimate of the number of players involved..  Why ? Simple for their theory to be correct it would have to be in the thousands for just the last 20 year period and even a simpleton of the highest degree would realize that if so many people knew it would have to leak out at some point.. If you do think this number of people could keep this a secret for so long you are plain and simple an IDIOT.. an_laugh

     
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    Posted: Dec. 19, 2018 - 12:19 AM ET #253

    Quote Originally Posted by ArtSchlichterJr:

    Quote Originally Posted by lancer89074:

    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorSuccess:

    Looks like we have two distinct camps on this issue. One side thinks NFL games are legit. The other side believes they are fixed and scripted. The legit side has evidence, including injuries, to support their claim.The fixed/scripted side has zero evidence outside of a few mob bosses from the 1940s and 50s, and Cap-master, who is able to call out every play of every game including the final score.I'm with the first camp.
    Your summation is mistaken as my posts contained detailed proof. Maybe you should use your literacy for something more than reading tavern signs?  There are at least 3 camps or more. Some who believe that the NFL is pure as the driven snow (you, the naive among us, and the bookmakers who profit from it), then there are some who think that games are fixed by refs (obvious), and then some who believe that games are scripted (I don't as all that is needed is one dirty ref to influence the outcome of a game)... Art Schlichterjr is still waiting for Tiger to win another major and also for Peyton Manning to throw that opening td pass over Richard Sherman's head in the super-bowl. His namesake says it all. Art the fart was wrong then and he is wrong now.
    And once again...blah.blah.blah.  and no estimate of the number of players involved..  Why ? Simple for their theory to be correct it would have to be in the thousands for just the last 20 year period and even a simpleton of the highest degree would realize that if so many people knew it would have to leak out at some point.. If you do think this number of people could keep this a secret for so long you are plain and simple an IDIOT..

    It doesn't take players, it only takes dirty refs in the NFL...Pete Morelli who has been at the center of many bad calls over the years still has a job. He isn't the only dirty ref though. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArtSchlichterJr:

    Quote Originally Posted by lancer89074:

    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorSuccess:

    Looks like we have two distinct camps on this issue. One side thinks NFL games are legit. The other side believes they are fixed and scripted. The legit side has evidence, including injuries, to support their claim.The fixed/scripted side has zero evidence outside of a few mob bosses from the 1940s and 50s, and Cap-master, who is able to call out every play of every game including the final score.I'm with the first camp.
    Your summation is mistaken as my posts contained detailed proof. Maybe you should use your literacy for something more than reading tavern signs?  There are at least 3 camps or more. Some who believe that the NFL is pure as the driven snow (you, the naive among us, and the bookmakers who profit from it), then there are some who think that games are fixed by refs (obvious), and then some who believe that games are scripted (I don't as all that is needed is one dirty ref to influence the outcome of a game)... Art Schlichterjr is still waiting for Tiger to win another major and also for Peyton Manning to throw that opening td pass over Richard Sherman's head in the super-bowl. His namesake says it all. Art the fart was wrong then and he is wrong now.
    And once again...blah.blah.blah.  and no estimate of the number of players involved..  Why ? Simple for their theory to be correct it would have to be in the thousands for just the last 20 year period and even a simpleton of the highest degree would realize that if so many people knew it would have to leak out at some point.. If you do think this number of people could keep this a secret for so long you are plain and simple an IDIOT..

    It doesn't take players, it only takes dirty refs in the NFL...Pete Morelli who has been at the center of many bad calls over the years still has a job. He isn't the only dirty ref though. 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 19, 2018 - 6:51 AM ET #254

    Thanks, Lancer, but I prefer to live in the land of reality. I'm also an evidence guy and I'm still waiting for someone - anyone - to post a single shred of evidence that today's NFL is fixed or scripted. 

    Not a hundred shreds of evidence, not fifty shreds of evidence, but one single shred. Real evidence - not Whattascam's fake betting tickets. No one has done that, because no one has any evidence.

    Someone please post the "scripts" to this weekend's games, with all the plays and injuries, then maybe I'll join you and the others in fantasy land.
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    Thanks, Lancer, but I prefer to live in the land of reality. I'm also an evidence guy and I'm still waiting for someone - anyone - to post a single shred of evidence that today's NFL is fixed or scripted. 

    Not a hundred shreds of evidence, not fifty shreds of evidence, but one single shred. Real evidence - not Whattascam's fake betting tickets. No one has done that, because no one has any evidence.

    Someone please post the "scripts" to this weekend's games, with all the plays and injuries, then maybe I'll join you and the others in fantasy land.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorSuccess:

    Thanks, Lancer, but I prefer to live in the land of reality. I'm also an evidence guy and I'm still waiting for someone - anyone - to post a single shred of evidence that today's NFL is fixed or scripted. 

    Not a hundred shreds of evidence, not fifty shreds of evidence, but one single shred. Real evidence - not Whattascam's fake betting tickets. No one has done that, because no one has any evidence.

    Someone please post the "scripts" to this weekend's games, with all the plays and injuries, then maybe I'll join you and the others in fantasy land.
    check out the 14 teamer in my avatar photo...that's a real ticket I did this week. If it were not scripted how in the hell would anyone especially someone like myself who don't even watch the games, be able to predict 14 of 14? And do it consistently? 14 is actually a small parlay for me. I usually do 17 to 19 games to get the much larger payout but this week since no college I only had 14 picks. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorSuccess:

    Thanks, Lancer, but I prefer to live in the land of reality. I'm also an evidence guy and I'm still waiting for someone - anyone - to post a single shred of evidence that today's NFL is fixed or scripted. 

    Not a hundred shreds of evidence, not fifty shreds of evidence, but one single shred. Real evidence - not Whattascam's fake betting tickets. No one has done that, because no one has any evidence.

    Someone please post the "scripts" to this weekend's games, with all the plays and injuries, then maybe I'll join you and the others in fantasy land.
    check out the 14 teamer in my avatar photo...that's a real ticket I did this week. If it were not scripted how in the hell would anyone especially someone like myself who don't even watch the games, be able to predict 14 of 14? And do it consistently? 14 is actually a small parlay for me. I usually do 17 to 19 games to get the much larger payout but this week since no college I only had 14 picks. 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 19, 2018 - 8:47 AM ET #256

    I did have e. Michigan +10.5 though on that ticket 
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    I did have e. Michigan +10.5 though on that ticket 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cap-Master:

    I did have e. Michigan +10.5 though on that ticket
    Looks like my avatar only showing up half the time. Hmmm

     

    But I was just going to respond again to your last post, doctor. This time with a different response. To where you asked for a shred of proof...

    Basically what I was going to tell you is to simply "Open your eyes" when you watch the games next time. Or become a conscious person. Those are the only 2 things that will PROVE TO YOU that sports is scripted. Wake up or stay asleep. Your choice! But don't ask for proof if you aren't willing to look at it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cap-Master:

    I did have e. Michigan +10.5 though on that ticket
    Looks like my avatar only showing up half the time. Hmmm

     

    But I was just going to respond again to your last post, doctor. This time with a different response. To where you asked for a shred of proof...

    Basically what I was going to tell you is to simply "Open your eyes" when you watch the games next time. Or become a conscious person. Those are the only 2 things that will PROVE TO YOU that sports is scripted. Wake up or stay asleep. Your choice! But don't ask for proof if you aren't willing to look at it!

     
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    Great job! Could you explain to us how you used your knowledge of fixed games to predict the winners?

    Also, could you throw us a few bones about this week's NFL games?
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    Great job! Could you explain to us how you used your knowledge of fixed games to predict the winners?

    Also, could you throw us a few bones about this week's NFL games?
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by lancer89074:

    Refs ruled it a completed pass and then fumble and recovery. Can not be a fumble and recovery without first being a completed pass.It took me about 3 minutes to google the catch rule in 2006, when a player catches the ball falling to the ground he must maintain control of the ball - AFTER - contacting the ground.The ref overturned the call because he said Troy's knee was still on the ground when Troy lost possesion, he did not maintain control - AFTER- contacting the ground, do do that he needed to have his knee off the ground before losing possesion.The reason the call was complerted pass and fumble was you'd have to look at the play to slowThe evidence of this game does not support what your saying Lancer.Your making up want you want to hear Lancer, simple as that.And because somebody on youtube said it was so is not evidence of anything. The only evidence that can be seen by your post is, you like to bend the info into what you what it to be.

    Hey the claw...here is a New York Times article stating that the NFL officials erred in overturning Polamalu's interception. Here is the link though I know that truth means very little to you:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2006/01/17/sports/pro-football-leagues-review-call-reversal-wrong.html

    The National Football League admitted yesterday that officials erred Sunday when they overturned an interception by Pittsburgh safety Troy Polamalu in the fourth quarter of the Steelers' 21-18 divisional playoff victory at Indianapolis.

    The N.F.L.'s vice president for officiating, Mike Pereira, saw it differently:

    "The definition of a catch -- or in this case an interception -- states that in the process of making the catch, a player must maintain possession of the ball after he contacts the ground," he said in a statement. "The initial call on the field was that Troy Polamalu intercepted the pass because he maintained possession of the ball after hitting the ground. The replay showed that Polamalu had rolled over and was rising to his feet when the ball came loose. He maintained possession long enough to establish a catch. Therefore, the replay review should have upheld the call on the field that it was a catch and fumble."

     




    It is not evidence of fixed games . What your saying is the refs waited untill Colts got behind 21-10 with only 5:26 left in the game before deciding to help the Colts , does not make any sense especially since Steelers had only 2 penalties for 8 yards while Colts had 9 for 67 yards.

    If the refs were trying to fix this game the evidence says they are horrendous at it.

    Your seeing only whsat you want to see because a guy on youtube posted a video to convince you it is true by bending the storyline into it.

    When you look at the catch rule, says AFTER  contacting the ground, how do you define AFTER. 

    Is it 1 second after, 2 seconds, is it after he rolls over is it after he contacts the ground then no longer contacts the ground ?

    The ref in the video says his knee was on the ground when ball came loose, he defines the catch as AFTER he contacts the ground and then no longer is contacting the ground.

    What the youtube video does not tell us is how did that same ref call other similar catches in the paST, VERY VALUABLE INFO TO KNOW  if we are to determine if he called this catch far different.

    If he is consistent then nothing to see here at all.

    Unless you have that info and all the info not just plays that fit what the youtube guy wants to say .



    But even if it is a bad call, even with a bad call the evidence still does not support the fix was in unless the refs are horrendously bad at fixing games or have very little influence to fix a game and that I definately don't believe, if a ref wants Colts to win the Colts will win, end of the story.


    Refs could call off line for holding on almost every play and def backs for holding which is 5 yards and automatic 1st down or PI on almost every play if they wanted to yet despite this they let Steelers build a 21-10 lead with 5:26 left while calling only 2 penalties on Pitt with 9  on the team they supposedly want to help makes zero logical sense Lancer.

    But if the youtube video guys leaves that info out sure makes his case look better . Anything he can do to make it look as good as he can to convince people it is true.


    As far as league wanting P Manning to win coz he is the poster boy for NFL.

    P Manning has the most 1 and dones in playoffs then any QB in league history.

    Once again, if the refs are trying to help him win , my goodness Lancer they must really be horrendous at it, I mean  really bad OR they have very little influence to do so.

    The evidence does not support the refs tried to help P Manning win , it is just not there, one really needs to be grasping for straws to make the evidence fit.

    One can make evidence fit almost anything if you try hard enough and leave out other things my not make your storyline fit. 
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    Refs ruled it a completed pass and then fumble and recovery. Can not be a fumble and recovery without first being a completed pass.It took me about 3 minutes to google the catch rule in 2006, when a player catches the ball falling to the ground he must maintain control of the ball - AFTER - contacting the ground.The ref overturned the call because he said Troy's knee was still on the ground when Troy lost possesion, he did not maintain control - AFTER- contacting the ground, do do that he needed to have his knee off the ground before losing possesion.The reason the call was complerted pass and fumble was you'd have to look at the play to slowThe evidence of this game does not support what your saying Lancer.Your making up want you want to hear Lancer, simple as that.And because somebody on youtube said it was so is not evidence of anything. The only evidence that can be seen by your post is, you like to bend the info into what you what it to be.

    Hey the claw...here is a New York Times article stating that the NFL officials erred in overturning Polamalu's interception. Here is the link though I know that truth means very little to you:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2006/01/17/sports/pro-football-leagues-review-call-reversal-wrong.html

    The National Football League admitted yesterday that officials erred Sunday when they overturned an interception by Pittsburgh safety Troy Polamalu in the fourth quarter of the Steelers' 21-18 divisional playoff victory at Indianapolis.

    The N.F.L.'s vice president for officiating, Mike Pereira, saw it differently:

    "The definition of a catch -- or in this case an interception -- states that in the process of making the catch, a player must maintain possession of the ball after he contacts the ground," he said in a statement. "The initial call on the field was that Troy Polamalu intercepted the pass because he maintained possession of the ball after hitting the ground. The replay showed that Polamalu had rolled over and was rising to his feet when the ball came loose. He maintained possession long enough to establish a catch. Therefore, the replay review should have upheld the call on the field that it was a catch and fumble."

     




    It is not evidence of fixed games . What your saying is the refs waited untill Colts got behind 21-10 with only 5:26 left in the game before deciding to help the Colts , does not make any sense especially since Steelers had only 2 penalties for 8 yards while Colts had 9 for 67 yards.

    If the refs were trying to fix this game the evidence says they are horrendous at it.

    Your seeing only whsat you want to see because a guy on youtube posted a video to convince you it is true by bending the storyline into it.

    When you look at the catch rule, says AFTER  contacting the ground, how do you define AFTER. 

    Is it 1 second after, 2 seconds, is it after he rolls over is it after he contacts the ground then no longer contacts the ground ?

    The ref in the video says his knee was on the ground when ball came loose, he defines the catch as AFTER he contacts the ground and then no longer is contacting the ground.

    What the youtube video does not tell us is how did that same ref call other similar catches in the paST, VERY VALUABLE INFO TO KNOW  if we are to determine if he called this catch far different.

    If he is consistent then nothing to see here at all.

    Unless you have that info and all the info not just plays that fit what the youtube guy wants to say .



    But even if it is a bad call, even with a bad call the evidence still does not support the fix was in unless the refs are horrendously bad at fixing games or have very little influence to fix a game and that I definately don't believe, if a ref wants Colts to win the Colts will win, end of the story.


    Refs could call off line for holding on almost every play and def backs for holding which is 5 yards and automatic 1st down or PI on almost every play if they wanted to yet despite this they let Steelers build a 21-10 lead with 5:26 left while calling only 2 penalties on Pitt with 9  on the team they supposedly want to help makes zero logical sense Lancer.

    But if the youtube video guys leaves that info out sure makes his case look better . Anything he can do to make it look as good as he can to convince people it is true.


    As far as league wanting P Manning to win coz he is the poster boy for NFL.

    P Manning has the most 1 and dones in playoffs then any QB in league history.

    Once again, if the refs are trying to help him win , my goodness Lancer they must really be horrendous at it, I mean  really bad OR they have very little influence to do so.

    The evidence does not support the refs tried to help P Manning win , it is just not there, one really needs to be grasping for straws to make the evidence fit.

    One can make evidence fit almost anything if you try hard enough and leave out other things my not make your storyline fit. 
     
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    I'm waiting breathlessly for someone to prove me wrong by posting the "scripts" to this weekend's games before the Redskins/Titans kick off. Please post the various touchdown drives and injuries we are going to see acted out by the player/actors. 

    Still waiting.

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    Still waiting.

    Crickets.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorSuccess:

    I'm waiting breathlessly for someone to prove me wrong by posting the "scripts" to this weekend's games before the Redskins/Titans kick off. Please post the various touchdown drives and injuries we are going to see acted out by the player/actors. Still waiting.Crickets.

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    I'm waiting breathlessly for someone to prove me wrong by posting the "scripts" to this weekend's games before the Redskins/Titans kick off. Please post the various touchdown drives and injuries we are going to see acted out by the player/actors. Still waiting.Crickets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorSuccess:

    I'm waiting breathlessly for someone to prove me wrong by posting the "scripts" to this weekend's games before the Redskins/Titans kick off. Please post the various touchdown drives and injuries we are going to see acted out by the player/actors. Still waiting.Crickets.


    Its the refs selective or non calls bro... 
    This video breaks down a game pretty well. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BU7tt3yR24&t=3s

    Examples of games this year. 
    Chiefs at Patriots - rewatch this game and laugh at 16 calls against KC and 0 against NE... NE was defensive holding Travis Kelce on a ton of plays and basically got away with murder
    Chiefs at Rams - Missed false start call and many other calls in key situations all surprisingly going to Rams.
    Chargers at Steelers - Missed false start leading to touchdown, and even more obvious block in the back occuring right where the ball is leading to another touchdown. Refs gifted the Chargers this game.

    Many more examples but too lay to look them up. These just came to mind.

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    I'm waiting breathlessly for someone to prove me wrong by posting the "scripts" to this weekend's games before the Redskins/Titans kick off. Please post the various touchdown drives and injuries we are going to see acted out by the player/actors. Still waiting.Crickets.


    Its the refs selective or non calls bro... 
    This video breaks down a game pretty well. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BU7tt3yR24&t=3s

    Examples of games this year. 
    Chiefs at Patriots - rewatch this game and laugh at 16 calls against KC and 0 against NE... NE was defensive holding Travis Kelce on a ton of plays and basically got away with murder
    Chiefs at Rams - Missed false start call and many other calls in key situations all surprisingly going to Rams.
    Chargers at Steelers - Missed false start leading to touchdown, and even more obvious block in the back occuring right where the ball is leading to another touchdown. Refs gifted the Chargers this game.

    Many more examples but too lay to look them up. These just came to mind.

     
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    I'll translate your response so all can understand: I'm an NPC who believes the NFL is scripted like professional wrestling, but I have no evidence to back up my claims, therefore this thread makes me feel insecure and my programming forces me to project my insecurities onto the OP. NFL bad. Orange man bad. OP bad.
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    I'll translate your response so all can understand: I'm an NPC who believes the NFL is scripted like professional wrestling, but I have no evidence to back up my claims, therefore this thread makes me feel insecure and my programming forces me to project my insecurities onto the OP. NFL bad. Orange man bad. OP bad.
     
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    Its the refs selective or non calls bro... 
    This video breaks down a game pretty well. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BU7tt3yR24&t=3s

    Examples of games this year. 
    Chiefs at Patriots - rewatch this game and laugh at 16 calls against KC and 0 against NE... NE was defensive holding Travis Kelce on a ton of plays and basically got away with murder
    Chiefs at Rams - Missed false start call and many other calls in key situations all surprisingly going to Rams.
    Chargers at Steelers - Missed false start leading to touchdown, and even more obvious block in the back occuring right where the ball is leading to another touchdown. Refs gifted the Chargers this game.

    Many more examples but too lay to look them up. These just came to mind.keykkkk


    Thanks, Donkey. I'll check out the vid. I'm all for looking at evidence. As long as it's real evidence. Not people posting fake betting tickets or other such nonsense.
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    Its the refs selective or non calls bro... 
    This video breaks down a game pretty well. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BU7tt3yR24&t=3s

    Examples of games this year. 
    Chiefs at Patriots - rewatch this game and laugh at 16 calls against KC and 0 against NE... NE was defensive holding Travis Kelce on a ton of plays and basically got away with murder
    Chiefs at Rams - Missed false start call and many other calls in key situations all surprisingly going to Rams.
    Chargers at Steelers - Missed false start leading to touchdown, and even more obvious block in the back occuring right where the ball is leading to another touchdown. Refs gifted the Chargers this game.

    Many more examples but too lay to look them up. These just came to mind.keykkkk


    Thanks, Donkey. I'll check out the vid. I'm all for looking at evidence. As long as it's real evidence. Not people posting fake betting tickets or other such nonsense.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorSuccess:

    Quote Originally Posted by DonkeyPlays:

    Its the refs selective or non calls bro... This video breaks down a game pretty well. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BU7tt3yR24&t=3sExamples of games this year. Chiefs at Patriots - rewatch this game and laugh at 16 calls against KC and 0 against NE... NE was defensive holding Travis Kelce on a ton of plays and basically got away with murderChiefs at Rams - Missed false start call and many other calls in key situations all surprisingly going to Rams.Chargers at Steelers - Missed false start leading to touchdown, and even more obvious block in the back occuring right where the ball is leading to another touchdown. Refs gifted the Chargers this game.Many more examples but too lay to look them up. These just came to mind.keykkkk
    Thanks, Donkey. I'll check out the vid. I'm all for looking at evidence. As long as it's real evidence. Not people posting fake betting tickets or other such nonsense.


    One thing about that video. I don't agree with the conclusions the guy in the video makes that it was to nurture an NFL storyline. That implies that the NFL is involved in the fixing, and I don't think the video presents evidence for that. It does present evidence of one sided officiating. It is possible that the NFL is involved, but it is also possible the refs could be involved with Vegas or a gambling syndicate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DonkeyPlays:

    Its the refs selective or non calls bro... This video breaks down a game pretty well. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BU7tt3yR24&t=3sExamples of games this year. Chiefs at Patriots - rewatch this game and laugh at 16 calls against KC and 0 against NE... NE was defensive holding Travis Kelce on a ton of plays and basically got away with murderChiefs at Rams - Missed false start call and many other calls in key situations all surprisingly going to Rams.Chargers at Steelers - Missed false start leading to touchdown, and even more obvious block in the back occuring right where the ball is leading to another touchdown. Refs gifted the Chargers this game.Many more examples but too lay to look them up. These just came to mind.keykkkk
    Thanks, Donkey. I'll check out the vid. I'm all for looking at evidence. As long as it's real evidence. Not people posting fake betting tickets or other such nonsense.


    One thing about that video. I don't agree with the conclusions the guy in the video makes that it was to nurture an NFL storyline. That implies that the NFL is involved in the fixing, and I don't think the video presents evidence for that. It does present evidence of one sided officiating. It is possible that the NFL is involved, but it is also possible the refs could be involved with Vegas or a gambling syndicate.

     
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    Clowns who think you'll get hundreds of players, coaches and refs all working together, and no EGOS fixing game after game after game

    I guarantee each and every one of these sincerely believes that in two nights a guy will for real hoping on a sleigh driven by reindeer and going around the world from home to home. All in one night

     

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    Clowns who think you'll get hundreds of players, coaches and refs all working together, and no EGOS fixing game after game after game

    I guarantee each and every one of these sincerely believes that in two nights a guy will for real hoping on a sleigh driven by reindeer and going around the world from home to home. All in one night

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorSuccess:

    I'm waiting breathlessly for someone to prove me wrong by posting the "scripts" to this weekend's games before the Redskins/Titans kick off. Please post the various touchdown drives and injuries we are going to see acted out by the player/actors. Still waiting.Crickets.
    youre just trying to get the picks free. Lol which is fine this is a free play board..however no way I'd be dumb enough to post the scripts of my games before they start. If u want absolute proof.of sports being scripted then come hang out with me sometime and I'll call each play during the game BEFORE they happen. Again I am not.always right nor able to predict every play. No one can. However I can do it often enough to prove beyond any doubt that the games are not random

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    I'm waiting breathlessly for someone to prove me wrong by posting the "scripts" to this weekend's games before the Redskins/Titans kick off. Please post the various touchdown drives and injuries we are going to see acted out by the player/actors. Still waiting.Crickets.
    youre just trying to get the picks free. Lol which is fine this is a free play board..however no way I'd be dumb enough to post the scripts of my games before they start. If u want absolute proof.of sports being scripted then come hang out with me sometime and I'll call each play during the game BEFORE they happen. Again I am not.always right nor able to predict every play. No one can. However I can do it often enough to prove beyond any doubt that the games are not random

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by wmi799:

    Clowns who think you'll get hundreds of players, coaches and refs all working together, and no EGOS fixing game after game after game

    I guarantee each and every one of these sincerely believes that in two nights a guy will for real hoping on a sleigh driven by reindeer and going around the world from home to home. All in one night

     


    You can't reason someone out of a stance they weren't reasoned into in the first place!

    Whenever some mug starts yelling about a game being scripted, well that's just a emotional reaction to a negative outcome, pure denial and the inability to accept a a bad bet.

    As you said, in a sport that involves so many people, the level of coordination would be astonishing, especially when you take in consideration the multitude of ways "a fix" could be done. Apart from that, lets say 2 teams manage to fix a game, can you imagine that many people, being able to keep their mouth shot about it and never tell anyone?! Yeah, right...

    This a sport and human error will always play a big part, regardless of being it the players or the officials.
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    Clowns who think you'll get hundreds of players, coaches and refs all working together, and no EGOS fixing game after game after game

    I guarantee each and every one of these sincerely believes that in two nights a guy will for real hoping on a sleigh driven by reindeer and going around the world from home to home. All in one night

     


    You can't reason someone out of a stance they weren't reasoned into in the first place!

    Whenever some mug starts yelling about a game being scripted, well that's just a emotional reaction to a negative outcome, pure denial and the inability to accept a a bad bet.

    As you said, in a sport that involves so many people, the level of coordination would be astonishing, especially when you take in consideration the multitude of ways "a fix" could be done. Apart from that, lets say 2 teams manage to fix a game, can you imagine that many people, being able to keep their mouth shot about it and never tell anyone?! Yeah, right...

    This a sport and human error will always play a big part, regardless of being it the players or the officials.
     
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    I just went over to the NBA forum - something I rarely do - and there were posts there by guys who had just lost games claiming that the NBA was rigged.

    I wonder if the same thing happens in the baseball forum. And the soccer forum.

    Maybe every sport has people who claim "Fix!" whenever they lose a bet. 
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    I just went over to the NBA forum - something I rarely do - and there were posts there by guys who had just lost games claiming that the NBA was rigged.

    I wonder if the same thing happens in the baseball forum. And the soccer forum.

    Maybe every sport has people who claim "Fix!" whenever they lose a bet. 
     
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    Dr. Go see my Post in penalty box, well before rams games last week.. it is NOT scripted as you say. No need. let the Kids Play 100% full bore...takes only a tiny call or non to do what need's to be done. It is a NON PUBLICLY held Co. the NFL.Owned by the 32 Main Owners.   The OWNERS/NFL are ALLOWED to SCRIPT THE outcome of any Games they want. and they have and they will. I made a good $ w/my theory Rams/Pats M.L. parlay...Or out of Football. The Papal Vote.I had Francis when the Balcony doors opened/word. @18-1 by following the $$ method.  DEF NOT SCRIPTED. To Many "actors"spoil the gig. no need. Bet Brady/Belechick and lose with the best if it must be, at least they will not beat you. I've read the last few yrs. posts since the 1st.  Fella's it is NOT SCRIPTED. + NFL Being legally able as WWF is to rig any outcome the 32 owners want. They do and they shall and shall again..Do not fade the Globetrotters! hahahaha..
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    Dr. Go see my Post in penalty box, well before rams games last week.. it is NOT scripted as you say. No need. let the Kids Play 100% full bore...takes only a tiny call or non to do what need's to be done. It is a NON PUBLICLY held Co. the NFL.Owned by the 32 Main Owners.   The OWNERS/NFL are ALLOWED to SCRIPT THE outcome of any Games they want. and they have and they will. I made a good $ w/my theory Rams/Pats M.L. parlay...Or out of Football. The Papal Vote.I had Francis when the Balcony doors opened/word. @18-1 by following the $$ method.  DEF NOT SCRIPTED. To Many "actors"spoil the gig. no need. Bet Brady/Belechick and lose with the best if it must be, at least they will not beat you. I've read the last few yrs. posts since the 1st.  Fella's it is NOT SCRIPTED. + NFL Being legally able as WWF is to rig any outcome the 32 owners want. They do and they shall and shall again..Do not fade the Globetrotters! hahahaha..
     
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    And the Case is not closed & all the donkey comments and such nonsense are Juvenile. You getting to old for such parts me thinks.
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    And the Case is not closed & all the donkey comments and such nonsense are Juvenile. You getting to old for such parts me thinks.
     
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    DR.>ET AL, I Implore you and invite you and even will cajole you all to see my Thread in Penalty Box that i started before playoffs. Funny enough it is titled "kNow it's Fixed League."And i bet and explained why I do so w/o handicapping, just using the "Follow the $$$" theory...   hahah i'm on fire, my picks and reputation are untarnished on this site. all Transparent and sincere. A good read after reading this Thread,which i have.                   " 'Tis better to lose w/Brady than get beat by Brady" BigfknPOO
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    DR.>ET AL, I Implore you and invite you and even will cajole you all to see my Thread in Penalty Box that i started before playoffs. Funny enough it is titled "kNow it's Fixed League."And i bet and explained why I do so w/o handicapping, just using the "Follow the $$$" theory...   hahah i'm on fire, my picks and reputation are untarnished on this site. all Transparent and sincere. A good read after reading this Thread,which i have.                   " 'Tis better to lose w/Brady than get beat by Brady" BigfknPOO
     
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    Have fun losing on Brady again this year

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    I'll look it up.

    why is it in the penalty box?
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    why is it in the penalty box?
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by wmi799:

    Clowns who think you'll get hundreds of players, coaches and refs all working together, and no EGOS fixing game after game after game I guarantee each and every one of these sincerely believes that in two nights a guy will for real hoping on a sleigh driven by reindeer and going around the world from home to home. All in one night

    Hey knucklehead, it only takes one or two ref calls or non calls to change the outcome of a game. 

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    Clowns who think you'll get hundreds of players, coaches and refs all working together, and no EGOS fixing game after game after game I guarantee each and every one of these sincerely believes that in two nights a guy will for real hoping on a sleigh driven by reindeer and going around the world from home to home. All in one night

    Hey knucklehead, it only takes one or two ref calls or non calls to change the outcome of a game. 

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