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    WHATTAPLAY
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2018 - 2:45 AM ET #226

    Quote Originally Posted by AllDay51:

    Finally someone with a brain!!! every comment before you basically agreed with the OP. impossible for no one to ever come out and make a #1 best selling book if this were true. maybe a refs been paid off here and there to through a couple flags but they all have to agree so even thats a tough one.


    QUESTION:  When, as you say, "a ref here or there is paid off", what is that called---in your world?

    An innocent campaign contribution? Or GAME-FIXING ???
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    Quote Originally Posted by AllDay51:

    Finally someone with a brain!!! every comment before you basically agreed with the OP. impossible for no one to ever come out and make a #1 best selling book if this were true. maybe a refs been paid off here and there to through a couple flags but they all have to agree so even thats a tough one.


    QUESTION:  When, as you say, "a ref here or there is paid off", what is that called---in your world?

    An innocent campaign contribution? Or GAME-FIXING ???
     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2018 - 2:49 AM ET #227

    Quote Originally Posted by AllDay51:

    No one ever coming out and talking or writing a book about it, I think is the strongest proof there is. Theres never been a scandal where no one talks eventually, people are always looking to cash in on big secrets.


    YOUR MINDSET:

    If I see it on the news, IT HAPPENED.

    If I don't see it on the news, it DID NOT HAPPEN.

    And people wonder why the world--America in particular--is so screwed up. People are like sheep who succumb willingly to control and manipulation.

    I guess you also believe JFK was shot by Oswald and that 1 "magic" bullet made 10 holes------in 2 guys.

    OMG. WE ARE ALL DOOMED. THE APOCALYPSE IS COMING.




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    Quote Originally Posted by AllDay51:

    No one ever coming out and talking or writing a book about it, I think is the strongest proof there is. Theres never been a scandal where no one talks eventually, people are always looking to cash in on big secrets.


    YOUR MINDSET:

    If I see it on the news, IT HAPPENED.

    If I don't see it on the news, it DID NOT HAPPEN.

    And people wonder why the world--America in particular--is so screwed up. People are like sheep who succumb willingly to control and manipulation.

    I guess you also believe JFK was shot by Oswald and that 1 "magic" bullet made 10 holes------in 2 guys.

    OMG. WE ARE ALL DOOMED. THE APOCALYPSE IS COMING.




     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2018 - 4:32 AM ET #228

    [/Quote] Finally someone with a brain!!! every comment before you basically agreed with the OP. impossible for no one to ever come out and make a #1 best selling book if this were true. maybe a refs been paid off here and there to through a couple flags but they all have to agree so even thats a tough one.[/Quote]

    Many things have been written about the NFL being fixed but of course you are unaware of it. I imagine with you and your kind that ignorance is bliss. It is a sign of the times. 

    Here is a link below that if you had any honest curiosity on the subject, you would pursue but of course you could care less. Bubba Smith who played in super-bowl 3 says that it was fixed.

    Once Chuck Noll accused his own team of taking a dive in a game against the Bengals. Saw this on you tube and was reported by their dynasty team free safety Mike Wagner. Money (and anything else of value) and shenanigans is as old as man himself.

    So you think that human beings are NOT conspiratorial? Ha ha if you answer yes, then one day you will have an awakening of gigantic proportions...

    https://newsspellcom.org/2017/03/16/all-in-the-game-nfl-fixed-or-legit-part-iii/

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    [/Quote] Finally someone with a brain!!! every comment before you basically agreed with the OP. impossible for no one to ever come out and make a #1 best selling book if this were true. maybe a refs been paid off here and there to through a couple flags but they all have to agree so even thats a tough one.[/Quote]

    Many things have been written about the NFL being fixed but of course you are unaware of it. I imagine with you and your kind that ignorance is bliss. It is a sign of the times. 

    Here is a link below that if you had any honest curiosity on the subject, you would pursue but of course you could care less. Bubba Smith who played in super-bowl 3 says that it was fixed.

    Once Chuck Noll accused his own team of taking a dive in a game against the Bengals. Saw this on you tube and was reported by their dynasty team free safety Mike Wagner. Money (and anything else of value) and shenanigans is as old as man himself.

    So you think that human beings are NOT conspiratorial? Ha ha if you answer yes, then one day you will have an awakening of gigantic proportions...

    https://newsspellcom.org/2017/03/16/all-in-the-game-nfl-fixed-or-legit-part-iii/

     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2018 - 4:54 AM ET #229

    Here is one my favorites from the playoffs Pitts versus Indy in January of 2006...gee, if any of you knuckleheads doubts that Polamalu intercepted this ball then there is no hope for you and further, if you can't then connect the dots that the refs did their utmost to get Peyton into the AFC championship against Denver that year then your mind is gone.

     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dO8-MpXgjsw

    Joey Porter as quoted in the New York Times January 16,2006:

    INDIANAPOLIS, Jan. 15 - It might have been the play that effectively ended the Colts' season. Instead, it's the one that ignited Joey Porter's furor. Pittsburgh safety Troy Polamalu's interception-that-wasn't of Peyton Manning in the fourth quarter gave the Colts a breath of life in a drive that ended with a touchdown and a 2-point conversion that pulled them to 3 points behind with 4 minutes 24 seconds remaining in the game.

    And it convinced Porter that the officials were cheating.

    "I know they wanted Indy to win this game," Porter said. "The whole world loves Peyton Manning, but come on man, don't take the game away from us.

    "I felt they were cheating us. When the interception happened, everybody in the world knew that was an interception. Don't cheat us that bad. When they did that, they really want Peyton Manning and these guys to win the Super Bowl. They are just going to straight take it for them. I felt that they were like 'We don't even care if you know we're cheating. We're cheating for them.' "

    The National Football League office is unlikely to be amused by Porter's comments, but the call was an odd one. It appeared that Polamalu had intercepted the ball at midfield and fell down. As he got up and began to run, Polamalu knocked the ball out of his hands with his knee. On the field, the officials ruled the play was an interception, a fumble and a recovery -- all by Polamalu. But the Colts challenged the call, and replays seemed to be too inconclusive to overrule the call.

    But the referee did overturn it, ruling it an incomplete pass. The Colts' Edgerrin James scored four plays later.

     

     

     

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    Here is one my favorites from the playoffs Pitts versus Indy in January of 2006...gee, if any of you knuckleheads doubts that Polamalu intercepted this ball then there is no hope for you and further, if you can't then connect the dots that the refs did their utmost to get Peyton into the AFC championship against Denver that year then your mind is gone.

     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dO8-MpXgjsw

    Joey Porter as quoted in the New York Times January 16,2006:

    INDIANAPOLIS, Jan. 15 - It might have been the play that effectively ended the Colts' season. Instead, it's the one that ignited Joey Porter's furor. Pittsburgh safety Troy Polamalu's interception-that-wasn't of Peyton Manning in the fourth quarter gave the Colts a breath of life in a drive that ended with a touchdown and a 2-point conversion that pulled them to 3 points behind with 4 minutes 24 seconds remaining in the game.

    And it convinced Porter that the officials were cheating.

    "I know they wanted Indy to win this game," Porter said. "The whole world loves Peyton Manning, but come on man, don't take the game away from us.

    "I felt they were cheating us. When the interception happened, everybody in the world knew that was an interception. Don't cheat us that bad. When they did that, they really want Peyton Manning and these guys to win the Super Bowl. They are just going to straight take it for them. I felt that they were like 'We don't even care if you know we're cheating. We're cheating for them.' "

    The National Football League office is unlikely to be amused by Porter's comments, but the call was an odd one. It appeared that Polamalu had intercepted the ball at midfield and fell down. As he got up and began to run, Polamalu knocked the ball out of his hands with his knee. On the field, the officials ruled the play was an interception, a fumble and a recovery -- all by Polamalu. But the Colts challenged the call, and replays seemed to be too inconclusive to overrule the call.

    But the referee did overturn it, ruling it an incomplete pass. The Colts' Edgerrin James scored four plays later.

     

     

     

     
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    Pete Morelli is still employed after this (Polamalu interception) and countless other bogus calls in the 12 years following which speaks volumes about the (lack of) integrity of Roger Goodell and the NFL.

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    Pete Morelli is still employed after this (Polamalu interception) and countless other bogus calls in the 12 years following which speaks volumes about the (lack of) integrity of Roger Goodell and the NFL.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2018 - 8:08 AM ET #231

    Quote Originally Posted by lancer89074:

    Finally someone with a brain!!! every comment before you basically agreed with the OP. impossible for no one to ever come out and make a #1 best selling book if this were true. maybe a refs been paid off here and there to through a couple flags but they all have to agree so even thats a tough one.

    Many things have been written about the NFL being fixed but of course you are unaware of it. I imagine with you and your kind that ignorance is bliss. It is a sign of the times. 

    Here is a link below that if you had any honest curiosity on the subject, you would pursue but of course you could care less. Bubba Smith who played in super-bowl 3 says that it was fixed.

    Once Chuck Noll accused his own team of taking a dive in a game against the Bengals. Saw this on you tube and was reported by their dynasty team free safety Mike Wagner. Money (and anything else of value) and shenanigans is as old as man himself.

    So you think that human beings are NOT conspiratorial? Ha ha if you answer yes, then one day you will have an awakening of gigantic proportions...

    https://newsspellcom.org/2017/03/16/all-in-the-game-nfl-fixed-or-legit-part-iii/


    SPOT ON. It was fixed so that the two existing leagues at the time could merge. This merger paved the way for a highly lucrative TV broadcasting deal.

    These boneheads on here cannot read beyond a third-grade level, much less comprehend what they read. They are too lazy to research anything. Instead, they demand we make our case to them, as if we are their assistants.

    You are falling on deaf ears. 

    No amount of proof will sway them. EVER. Some people are too stupid to save.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lancer89074:

    Finally someone with a brain!!! every comment before you basically agreed with the OP. impossible for no one to ever come out and make a #1 best selling book if this were true. maybe a refs been paid off here and there to through a couple flags but they all have to agree so even thats a tough one.

    Many things have been written about the NFL being fixed but of course you are unaware of it. I imagine with you and your kind that ignorance is bliss. It is a sign of the times. 

    Here is a link below that if you had any honest curiosity on the subject, you would pursue but of course you could care less. Bubba Smith who played in super-bowl 3 says that it was fixed.

    Once Chuck Noll accused his own team of taking a dive in a game against the Bengals. Saw this on you tube and was reported by their dynasty team free safety Mike Wagner. Money (and anything else of value) and shenanigans is as old as man himself.

    So you think that human beings are NOT conspiratorial? Ha ha if you answer yes, then one day you will have an awakening of gigantic proportions...

    https://newsspellcom.org/2017/03/16/all-in-the-game-nfl-fixed-or-legit-part-iii/


    SPOT ON. It was fixed so that the two existing leagues at the time could merge. This merger paved the way for a highly lucrative TV broadcasting deal.

    These boneheads on here cannot read beyond a third-grade level, much less comprehend what they read. They are too lazy to research anything. Instead, they demand we make our case to them, as if we are their assistants.

    You are falling on deaf ears. 

    No amount of proof will sway them. EVER. Some people are too stupid to save.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2018 - 8:22 AM ET #232

    Using the word scripted is probably not the correct term.  Fixed?  Without question they are fixed.    

     

    Where there's money, there's corruption.  Plain and simple.  As far as betting goes, rest assured that if a person can bet on something, there is going to be outside parties involved to either influence or decide the outcome. 

     

    The NFL had 13 BILLION in revenue last year.  They are certainly not going to leave their business up to chance.  They control everything.  It's a business for God's sake.  Whatever they need to happen on a week to week basis, is going to happen.

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    Using the word scripted is probably not the correct term.  Fixed?  Without question they are fixed.    

     

    Where there's money, there's corruption.  Plain and simple.  As far as betting goes, rest assured that if a person can bet on something, there is going to be outside parties involved to either influence or decide the outcome. 

     

    The NFL had 13 BILLION in revenue last year.  They are certainly not going to leave their business up to chance.  They control everything.  It's a business for God's sake.  Whatever they need to happen on a week to week basis, is going to happen.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2018 - 9:11 AM ET #233

    Quote Originally Posted by lancer89074:

    Here is one my favorites from the playoffs Pitts versus Indy in January of 2006...gee, if any of you knuckleheads doubts that Polamalu intercepted this ball then there is no hope for you and further, if you can't then connect the dots that the refs did their utmost to get Peyton into the AFC championship against Denver that year then your mind is gone.

     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dO8-MpXgjsw

    Joey Porter as quoted in the New York Times January 16,2006:

    INDIANAPOLIS, Jan. 15 - It might have been the play that effectively ended the Colts' season. Instead, it's the one that ignited Joey Porter's furor. Pittsburgh safety Troy Polamalu's interception-that-wasn't of Peyton Manning in the fourth quarter gave the Colts a breath of life in a drive that ended with a touchdown and a 2-point conversion that pulled them to 3 points behind with 4 minutes 24 seconds remaining in the game.

    And it convinced Porter that the officials were cheating.

    "I know they wanted Indy to win this game," Porter said. "The whole world loves Peyton Manning, but come on man, don't take the game away from us.

    "I felt they were cheating us. When the interception happened, everybody in the world knew that was an interception. Don't cheat us that bad. When they did that, they really want Peyton Manning and these guys to win the Super Bowl. They are just going to straight take it for them. I felt that they were like 'We don't even care if you know we're cheating. We're cheating for them.' "

    The National Football League office is unlikely to be amused by Porter's comments, but the call was an odd one. It appeared that Polamalu had intercepted the ball at midfield and fell down. As he got up and began to run, Polamalu knocked the ball out of his hands with his knee. On the field, the officials ruled the play was an interception, a fumble and a recovery -- all by Polamalu. But the Colts challenged the call, and replays seemed to be too inconclusive to overrule the call.

    But the referee did overturn it, ruling it an incomplete pass. The Colts' Edgerrin James scored four plays later.

     

     

     




    If refs were cheating why did they rule it completed pass to begin with ? 

    Kyrie Irving says the world is flat, taking any opinion from many of these very uneducated pro athtetes is not the wisest thing you can do.

    Irving says he learned that on youtube videos, the evidence is pretty strong many of these guys are not the brightest lights around.

    But hey if you want to put alot of stake in what Porter says best of luck to you, you are going to need it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lancer89074:

    Here is one my favorites from the playoffs Pitts versus Indy in January of 2006...gee, if any of you knuckleheads doubts that Polamalu intercepted this ball then there is no hope for you and further, if you can't then connect the dots that the refs did their utmost to get Peyton into the AFC championship against Denver that year then your mind is gone.

     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dO8-MpXgjsw

    Joey Porter as quoted in the New York Times January 16,2006:

    INDIANAPOLIS, Jan. 15 - It might have been the play that effectively ended the Colts' season. Instead, it's the one that ignited Joey Porter's furor. Pittsburgh safety Troy Polamalu's interception-that-wasn't of Peyton Manning in the fourth quarter gave the Colts a breath of life in a drive that ended with a touchdown and a 2-point conversion that pulled them to 3 points behind with 4 minutes 24 seconds remaining in the game.

    And it convinced Porter that the officials were cheating.

    "I know they wanted Indy to win this game," Porter said. "The whole world loves Peyton Manning, but come on man, don't take the game away from us.

    "I felt they were cheating us. When the interception happened, everybody in the world knew that was an interception. Don't cheat us that bad. When they did that, they really want Peyton Manning and these guys to win the Super Bowl. They are just going to straight take it for them. I felt that they were like 'We don't even care if you know we're cheating. We're cheating for them.' "

    The National Football League office is unlikely to be amused by Porter's comments, but the call was an odd one. It appeared that Polamalu had intercepted the ball at midfield and fell down. As he got up and began to run, Polamalu knocked the ball out of his hands with his knee. On the field, the officials ruled the play was an interception, a fumble and a recovery -- all by Polamalu. But the Colts challenged the call, and replays seemed to be too inconclusive to overrule the call.

    But the referee did overturn it, ruling it an incomplete pass. The Colts' Edgerrin James scored four plays later.

     

     

     




    If refs were cheating why did they rule it completed pass to begin with ? 

    Kyrie Irving says the world is flat, taking any opinion from many of these very uneducated pro athtetes is not the wisest thing you can do.

    Irving says he learned that on youtube videos, the evidence is pretty strong many of these guys are not the brightest lights around.

    But hey if you want to put alot of stake in what Porter says best of luck to you, you are going to need it.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by lancer89074:

    Finally someone with a brain!!! every comment before you basically agreed with the OP. impossible for no one to ever come out and make a #1 best selling book if this were true. maybe a refs been paid off here and there to through a couple flags but they all have to agree so even thats a tough one.

    Many things have been written about the NFL being fixed but of course you are unaware of it. I imagine with you and your kind that ignorance is bliss. It is a sign of the times. 

    Here is a link below that if you had any honest curiosity on the subject, you would pursue but of course you could care less. Bubba Smith who played in super-bowl 3 says that it was fixed.

    Once Chuck Noll accused his own team of taking a dive in a game against the Bengals. Saw this on you tube and was reported by their dynasty team free safety Mike Wagner. Money (and anything else of value) and shenanigans is as old as man himself.

    So you think that human beings are NOT conspiratorial? Ha ha if you answer yes, then one day you will have an awakening of gigantic proportions...

    https://newsspellcom.org/2017/03/16/all-in-the-game-nfl-fixed-or-legit-part-iii/


    First Joey Porter now Bubbs Smith, I quess you believe the world is flat coz Kyrie told you it was.

    Quess where he learned that startiling info ? Yes you tube videos.

    None of what you posted proved a thing other then you believe pro players coz they said so.

    They faked the moon landing as well coz Curry told you that.

    All coz a guy can play a pro sport he is god's gift to intelligent conversation, I think it might be quite the opposite.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lancer89074:

    Finally someone with a brain!!! every comment before you basically agreed with the OP. impossible for no one to ever come out and make a #1 best selling book if this were true. maybe a refs been paid off here and there to through a couple flags but they all have to agree so even thats a tough one.

    Many things have been written about the NFL being fixed but of course you are unaware of it. I imagine with you and your kind that ignorance is bliss. It is a sign of the times. 

    Here is a link below that if you had any honest curiosity on the subject, you would pursue but of course you could care less. Bubba Smith who played in super-bowl 3 says that it was fixed.

    Once Chuck Noll accused his own team of taking a dive in a game against the Bengals. Saw this on you tube and was reported by their dynasty team free safety Mike Wagner. Money (and anything else of value) and shenanigans is as old as man himself.

    So you think that human beings are NOT conspiratorial? Ha ha if you answer yes, then one day you will have an awakening of gigantic proportions...

    https://newsspellcom.org/2017/03/16/all-in-the-game-nfl-fixed-or-legit-part-iii/


    First Joey Porter now Bubbs Smith, I quess you believe the world is flat coz Kyrie told you it was.

    Quess where he learned that startiling info ? Yes you tube videos.

    None of what you posted proved a thing other then you believe pro players coz they said so.

    They faked the moon landing as well coz Curry told you that.

    All coz a guy can play a pro sport he is god's gift to intelligent conversation, I think it might be quite the opposite.
     
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          [/Quote]If refs were cheating why did they rule it completed pass to begin with ? Kyrie Irving says the world is flat, taking any opinion from many of these very uneducated pro athtetes is not the wisest thing you can do.Irving says he learned that on youtube videos, the evidence is pretty strong many of these guys are not the brightest lights around.But hey if you want to put alot of stake in what Porter says best of luck to you, you are going to need it.[/Quote]

    The refs didn't rule it a completed pass...see you didn't even look at the video. The ruling on the field was that it was an interception, a fumble, and a fumble recovery. 

    Morelli the crew chief looked at the replay and made the ruling. The much better question for you to ask is why the ruling was overturned. 

    The video clearly shows Polamalu making the interception...end of story. 

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          [/Quote]If refs were cheating why did they rule it completed pass to begin with ? Kyrie Irving says the world is flat, taking any opinion from many of these very uneducated pro athtetes is not the wisest thing you can do.Irving says he learned that on youtube videos, the evidence is pretty strong many of these guys are not the brightest lights around.But hey if you want to put alot of stake in what Porter says best of luck to you, you are going to need it.[/Quote]

    The refs didn't rule it a completed pass...see you didn't even look at the video. The ruling on the field was that it was an interception, a fumble, and a fumble recovery. 

    Morelli the crew chief looked at the replay and made the ruling. The much better question for you to ask is why the ruling was overturned. 

    The video clearly shows Polamalu making the interception...end of story. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorSuccess:

    We know that athletes are capable of throwing games or shaving points, because they've done so.

    Please provide a link anywhere on the internet where it has been proven a single player in nba nfl nhl or mlb has thrown a game or shaved points.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorSuccess:

    We know that athletes are capable of throwing games or shaving points, because they've done so.

    Please provide a link anywhere on the internet where it has been proven a single player in nba nfl nhl or mlb has thrown a game or shaved points.

     
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    ^^^^^ forgot to say "over the past 20 years"...we all know about the black sox scandal

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    ^^^^^ forgot to say "over the past 20 years"...we all know about the black sox scandal

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by packersbackers:

    Please provide a link anywhere on the internet where it has been proven a single player in nba nfl nhl or mlb has thrown a game or shaved points.


    LEARN TO READ BETWEEN THE LINES, JACKASS:

    https://nypost.com/2013/09/14/knicks-players-fixed-games-for-drug-dealers-in-80s-fbi/
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    Please provide a link anywhere on the internet where it has been proven a single player in nba nfl nhl or mlb has thrown a game or shaved points.


    LEARN TO READ BETWEEN THE LINES, JACKASS:

    https://nypost.com/2013/09/14/knicks-players-fixed-games-for-drug-dealers-in-80s-fbi/
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by WHATTAPLAY:

    Quote Originally Posted by packersbackers:

    Please provide a link anywhere on the internet where it has been proven a single player in nba nfl nhl or mlb has thrown a game or shaved points.
    LEARN TO READ BETWEEN THE LINES, JACKASS:https://nypost.com/2013/09/14/knicks-players-fixed-games-for-drug-dealers-in-80s-fbi/

    Small shoes leads to small brains i suppose eh?

    I said in the past 20 years...learn to read between the lines donkey (that implies since the internet era, social media etc...no player in the modern era is point shaving or throwing games as the OP and all you clowns believe in order to justify being a career lifetime loser at sports betting)..also the link you offered has the article ending in "no arrests" and "lack of any real evidence"...but hey, nice try...no shame in walking up to the batters box, digging in your size 5.5 kleets, and hacking away at a few fastballs well above your payscale peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by packersbackers:

    Please provide a link anywhere on the internet where it has been proven a single player in nba nfl nhl or mlb has thrown a game or shaved points.
    LEARN TO READ BETWEEN THE LINES, JACKASS:https://nypost.com/2013/09/14/knicks-players-fixed-games-for-drug-dealers-in-80s-fbi/

    Small shoes leads to small brains i suppose eh?

    I said in the past 20 years...learn to read between the lines donkey (that implies since the internet era, social media etc...no player in the modern era is point shaving or throwing games as the OP and all you clowns believe in order to justify being a career lifetime loser at sports betting)..also the link you offered has the article ending in "no arrests" and "lack of any real evidence"...but hey, nice try...no shame in walking up to the batters box, digging in your size 5.5 kleets, and hacking away at a few fastballs well above your payscale peace_5

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by packersbackers:

    LEARN TO READ BETWEEN THE LINES, JACKASS:https://nypost.com/2013/09/14/knicks-players-fixed-games-for-drug-dealers-in-80s-fbi/

    Small shoes leads to small brains i suppose eh?

    I said in the past 20 years...learn to read between the lines donkey (that implies since the internet era, social media etc...no player in the modern era is point shaving or throwing games as the OP and all you clowns believe in order to justify being a career lifetime loser at sports betting)..also the link you offered has the article ending in "no arrests" and "lack of any real evidence"...but hey, nice try...no shame in walking up to the batters box, digging in your size 5.5 kleets, and hacking away at a few fastballs well above your payscale peace_5


    Why do you qualify "in the past 20 years" ????

    Clowns like YOU always try to set parameters to suit your narrative.
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    LEARN TO READ BETWEEN THE LINES, JACKASS:https://nypost.com/2013/09/14/knicks-players-fixed-games-for-drug-dealers-in-80s-fbi/

    Small shoes leads to small brains i suppose eh?

    I said in the past 20 years...learn to read between the lines donkey (that implies since the internet era, social media etc...no player in the modern era is point shaving or throwing games as the OP and all you clowns believe in order to justify being a career lifetime loser at sports betting)..also the link you offered has the article ending in "no arrests" and "lack of any real evidence"...but hey, nice try...no shame in walking up to the batters box, digging in your size 5.5 kleets, and hacking away at a few fastballs well above your payscale peace_5


    Why do you qualify "in the past 20 years" ????

    Clowns like YOU always try to set parameters to suit your narrative.
     
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    Because in the past 20years the argument of this topic is most relevant...times change...rules change...players arent snorting coke at halftime anymore, players arent getting paid peanuts anymore, sports media and journalists over the past 20 years see and report everything, not like in the past where it was the wild wild west...got it donkey? 

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    Because in the past 20years the argument of this topic is most relevant...times change...rules change...players arent snorting coke at halftime anymore, players arent getting paid peanuts anymore, sports media and journalists over the past 20 years see and report everything, not like in the past where it was the wild wild west...got it donkey? 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by WHATTAPLAY:

    Quote Originally Posted by lancer89074:

    Finally someone with a brain!!! every comment before you basically agreed with the OP. impossible for no one to ever come out and make a #1 best selling book if this were true. maybe a refs been paid off here and there to through a couple flags but they all have to agree so even thats a tough one. Many things have been written about the NFL being fixed but of course you are unaware of it. I imagine with you and your kind that ignorance is bliss. It is a sign of the times.  Here is a link below that if you had any honest curiosity on the subject, you would pursue but of course you could care less. Bubba Smith who played in super-bowl 3 says that it was fixed. Once Chuck Noll accused his own team of taking a dive in a game against the Bengals. Saw this on you tube and was reported by their dynasty team free safety Mike Wagner. Money (and anything else of value) and shenanigans is as old as man himself. So you think that human beings are NOT conspiratorial? Ha ha if you answer yes, then one day you will have an awakening of gigantic proportions... https://newsspellcom.org/2017/03/16/all-in-the-game-nfl-fixed-or-legit-part-iii/
    SPOT ON. It was fixed so that the two existing leagues at the time could merge. This merger paved the way for a highly lucrative TV broadcasting deal.These boneheads on here cannot read beyond a third-grade level, much less comprehend what they read. They are too lazy to research anything. Instead, they demand we make our case to them, as if we are their assistants.You are falling on deaf ears. No amount of proof will sway them. EVER. Some people are too stupid to save.

     

     

    "No amount of proof will sway them. EVER. Some people are too stupid to save." 

    Sounds like a Democrat

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    Quote Originally Posted by lancer89074:

    Finally someone with a brain!!! every comment before you basically agreed with the OP. impossible for no one to ever come out and make a #1 best selling book if this were true. maybe a refs been paid off here and there to through a couple flags but they all have to agree so even thats a tough one. Many things have been written about the NFL being fixed but of course you are unaware of it. I imagine with you and your kind that ignorance is bliss. It is a sign of the times.  Here is a link below that if you had any honest curiosity on the subject, you would pursue but of course you could care less. Bubba Smith who played in super-bowl 3 says that it was fixed. Once Chuck Noll accused his own team of taking a dive in a game against the Bengals. Saw this on you tube and was reported by their dynasty team free safety Mike Wagner. Money (and anything else of value) and shenanigans is as old as man himself. So you think that human beings are NOT conspiratorial? Ha ha if you answer yes, then one day you will have an awakening of gigantic proportions... https://newsspellcom.org/2017/03/16/all-in-the-game-nfl-fixed-or-legit-part-iii/
    SPOT ON. It was fixed so that the two existing leagues at the time could merge. This merger paved the way for a highly lucrative TV broadcasting deal.These boneheads on here cannot read beyond a third-grade level, much less comprehend what they read. They are too lazy to research anything. Instead, they demand we make our case to them, as if we are their assistants.You are falling on deaf ears. No amount of proof will sway them. EVER. Some people are too stupid to save.

     

     

    "No amount of proof will sway them. EVER. Some people are too stupid to save." 

    Sounds like a Democrat

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thawv:

    Using the word scripted is probably not the correct term.  Fixed?  Without question they are fixed.       Where there's money, there's corruption.  Plain and simple.  As far as betting goes, rest assured that if a person can bet on something, there is going to be outside parties involved to either influence or decide the outcome.    The NFL had 13 BILLION in revenue last year.  They are certainly not going to leave their business up to chance.  They control everything.  It's a business for God's sake.  Whatever they need to happen on a week to week basis, is going to happen.
    you're wrong there buddy. How would people such as myself be able to call out and entire game (that they know NOTHING about) from stsrt to finish including exact final score correctly? It'd scripted end of story. Believe what you will

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    Using the word scripted is probably not the correct term.  Fixed?  Without question they are fixed.       Where there's money, there's corruption.  Plain and simple.  As far as betting goes, rest assured that if a person can bet on something, there is going to be outside parties involved to either influence or decide the outcome.    The NFL had 13 BILLION in revenue last year.  They are certainly not going to leave their business up to chance.  They control everything.  It's a business for God's sake.  Whatever they need to happen on a week to week basis, is going to happen.
    you're wrong there buddy. How would people such as myself be able to call out and entire game (that they know NOTHING about) from stsrt to finish including exact final score correctly? It'd scripted end of story. Believe what you will

     
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    Looks like we have two distinct camps on this issue. 

    One side thinks NFL games are legit. The other side believes they are fixed and scripted. 

    The legit side has evidence, including injuries, to support their claim.

    The fixed/scripted side has zero evidence outside of a few mob bosses from the 1940s and 50s, and Cap-master, who is able to call out every play of every game including the final score.

    I'm with the first camp.
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    Looks like we have two distinct camps on this issue. 

    One side thinks NFL games are legit. The other side believes they are fixed and scripted. 

    The legit side has evidence, including injuries, to support their claim.

    The fixed/scripted side has zero evidence outside of a few mob bosses from the 1940s and 50s, and Cap-master, who is able to call out every play of every game including the final score.

    I'm with the first camp.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by packersbackers:

    Because in the past 20years the argument of this topic is most relevant...times change...rules change...players arent snorting coke at halftime anymore, players arent getting paid peanuts anymore, sports media and journalists over the past 20 years see and report everything, not like in the past where it was the wild wild west...got it donkey?
    Pack no use arguing with this poster if his knowledge of the  sport is so small he does not know this you will never change his mind.. his take..his support.. his reasoning ... his data.. his knowledge.  is all OVER 20 years old..  Just the fact he says why qualify it to no more then the last 20 years says so much for his knowledge. Which is none by the way.. Question for tin foil hat man please please answer (he will not)..  Give  me a estimate of the number of players involved in fixing games over  the last twenty years..  Your best ques... curious.. Watch the crickets..  Just a estimate "tin foil"..  Will be waiting.. He will not give one  he will just drone on about 40 year old examples when players made peanuts.. Then compare it with today's game.  Just watch..   No estimate just blah blah blah.. 

    Be careful with the axe Eugene.
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    Because in the past 20years the argument of this topic is most relevant...times change...rules change...players arent snorting coke at halftime anymore, players arent getting paid peanuts anymore, sports media and journalists over the past 20 years see and report everything, not like in the past where it was the wild wild west...got it donkey?
    Pack no use arguing with this poster if his knowledge of the  sport is so small he does not know this you will never change his mind.. his take..his support.. his reasoning ... his data.. his knowledge.  is all OVER 20 years old..  Just the fact he says why qualify it to no more then the last 20 years says so much for his knowledge. Which is none by the way.. Question for tin foil hat man please please answer (he will not)..  Give  me a estimate of the number of players involved in fixing games over  the last twenty years..  Your best ques... curious.. Watch the crickets..  Just a estimate "tin foil"..  Will be waiting.. He will not give one  he will just drone on about 40 year old examples when players made peanuts.. Then compare it with today's game.  Just watch..   No estimate just blah blah blah.. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by lancer89074:

    If refs were cheating why did they rule it completed pass to begin with ? Kyrie Irving says the world is flat, taking any opinion from many of these very uneducated pro athtetes is not the wisest thing you can do.Irving says he learned that on youtube videos, the evidence is pretty strong many of these guys are not the brightest lights around.But hey if you want to put alot of stake in what Porter says best of luck to you, you are going to need it.

    The refs didn't rule it a completed pass...see you didn't even look at the video. The ruling on the field was that it was an interception, a fumble, and a fumble recovery. 

    Morelli the crew chief looked at the replay and made the ruling. The much better question for you to ask is why the ruling was overturned. 

    The video clearly shows Polamalu making the interception...end of story. 



    Refs ruled it a completed pass and then fumble and recovery. Can not be a fumble and recovery without first being a completed pass.

    It took me about 3 minutes to google the catch rule in 2006, when a player catches the ball falling to the ground he must maintain control of the ball - AFTER - contacting the ground.

    The ref overturned the call because he said Troy's knee was still on the ground when Troy lost possesion, he did not maintain control - AFTER- contacting the ground, do do that he needed to have his knee off the ground before losing possesion.

    The reason the call was complerted pass and fumble was you'd have to look at the play to slow motion to see that yes indeed his knee was on the ground when he lost possesion, watch the video, it is all there.


    Now, let's look at howe this game played out, any evidence that the refs wanted Colts to win ?

    Penalities.......................Steelers 2 for 8 yards, Colts 9 for 67 yards.
     Who were the refs helping now ?

    Steeler 1st downs 21...........Colts 15.
    Steelers 3rd down conversions 6 of 14, Colts a dreadful 3 of 13.

    If a ref  wanted Colts to win this game it sure does not show up in how the game was played.

    A holding call can be made on almost every pass play and a pass interferance call can be made on most every pass play if the refs wanted to, yet despite this  Colts only had 3 of 13 on 3rd downs , refs easily could of helped the Colts get more 1st downs if they really wanted to help them win.

    So your saying the refs waited till Steelers had a 21-10 lead  with only 5:26 left in the game before they decided to help the Colts win this game ?

    The evidence of this game does not support what your saying Lancer.

    Your making up want you want to hear Lancer, simple as that.

    And because somebody on youtube said it was so is not evidence of anything. 

    The only evidence that can be seen by your post is, you like to bend the info into what you what it to be.
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    If refs were cheating why did they rule it completed pass to begin with ? Kyrie Irving says the world is flat, taking any opinion from many of these very uneducated pro athtetes is not the wisest thing you can do.Irving says he learned that on youtube videos, the evidence is pretty strong many of these guys are not the brightest lights around.But hey if you want to put alot of stake in what Porter says best of luck to you, you are going to need it.

    The refs didn't rule it a completed pass...see you didn't even look at the video. The ruling on the field was that it was an interception, a fumble, and a fumble recovery. 

    Morelli the crew chief looked at the replay and made the ruling. The much better question for you to ask is why the ruling was overturned. 

    The video clearly shows Polamalu making the interception...end of story. 



    Refs ruled it a completed pass and then fumble and recovery. Can not be a fumble and recovery without first being a completed pass.

    It took me about 3 minutes to google the catch rule in 2006, when a player catches the ball falling to the ground he must maintain control of the ball - AFTER - contacting the ground.

    The ref overturned the call because he said Troy's knee was still on the ground when Troy lost possesion, he did not maintain control - AFTER- contacting the ground, do do that he needed to have his knee off the ground before losing possesion.

    The reason the call was complerted pass and fumble was you'd have to look at the play to slow motion to see that yes indeed his knee was on the ground when he lost possesion, watch the video, it is all there.


    Now, let's look at howe this game played out, any evidence that the refs wanted Colts to win ?

    Penalities.......................Steelers 2 for 8 yards, Colts 9 for 67 yards.
     Who were the refs helping now ?

    Steeler 1st downs 21...........Colts 15.
    Steelers 3rd down conversions 6 of 14, Colts a dreadful 3 of 13.

    If a ref  wanted Colts to win this game it sure does not show up in how the game was played.

    A holding call can be made on almost every pass play and a pass interferance call can be made on most every pass play if the refs wanted to, yet despite this  Colts only had 3 of 13 on 3rd downs , refs easily could of helped the Colts get more 1st downs if they really wanted to help them win.

    So your saying the refs waited till Steelers had a 21-10 lead  with only 5:26 left in the game before they decided to help the Colts win this game ?

    The evidence of this game does not support what your saying Lancer.

    Your making up want you want to hear Lancer, simple as that.

    And because somebody on youtube said it was so is not evidence of anything. 

    The only evidence that can be seen by your post is, you like to bend the info into what you what it to be.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorSuccess:

    Looks like we have two distinct camps on this issue. One side thinks NFL games are legit. The other side believes they are fixed and scripted. The legit side has evidence, including injuries, to support their claim.The fixed/scripted side has zero evidence outside of a few mob bosses from the 1940s and 50s, and Cap-master, who is able to call out every play of every game including the final score.I'm with the first camp.

    Your summation is mistaken as my posts contained detailed proof. Maybe you should use your literacy for something more than reading tavern signs? 

    There are at least 3 camps or more. Some who believe that the NFL is pure as the driven snow (you, the naive among us, and the bookmakers who profit from it), then there are some who think that games are fixed by refs (obvious), and then some who believe that games are scripted (I don't as all that is needed is one dirty ref to influence the outcome of a game)...

    Art Schlichterjr is still waiting for Tiger to win another major and also for Peyton Manning to throw that opening td pass over Richard Sherman's head in the super-bowl. His namesake says it all. Art the fart was wrong then and he is wrong now. 

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    Looks like we have two distinct camps on this issue. One side thinks NFL games are legit. The other side believes they are fixed and scripted. The legit side has evidence, including injuries, to support their claim.The fixed/scripted side has zero evidence outside of a few mob bosses from the 1940s and 50s, and Cap-master, who is able to call out every play of every game including the final score.I'm with the first camp.

    Your summation is mistaken as my posts contained detailed proof. Maybe you should use your literacy for something more than reading tavern signs? 

    There are at least 3 camps or more. Some who believe that the NFL is pure as the driven snow (you, the naive among us, and the bookmakers who profit from it), then there are some who think that games are fixed by refs (obvious), and then some who believe that games are scripted (I don't as all that is needed is one dirty ref to influence the outcome of a game)...

    Art Schlichterjr is still waiting for Tiger to win another major and also for Peyton Manning to throw that opening td pass over Richard Sherman's head in the super-bowl. His namesake says it all. Art the fart was wrong then and he is wrong now. 

     
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    It’s a fact that certain outcomes are planned by the powers that be.One example was a lakers kings playoff series.The league needed the lakers to advance for ratings and money.The Patrick Ewing lottery with the nba they needed the knicks to be relevant due to their large fanbase to help increase revenue as well as tv ratings.

    Scripted maybe not, but fixed 100%.

    Show me 1 industry in the world in which money is involved where there is not some type of thievery it doesn’t exist .


    I will say not every game is fixed but some are. In the NBA it was done for survival back in the day.
     In the NFL whether it be a ref getting paid off or the league desiring a beneficial outcome these things happen more frequently than you think.

    In fact several years ago Tim Donaghy spoke at my sons school and came out and said games are fixed!

    People can believe what they want but absolutely certain outcomes are FIXED.








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    It’s a fact that certain outcomes are planned by the powers that be.One example was a lakers kings playoff series.The league needed the lakers to advance for ratings and money.The Patrick Ewing lottery with the nba they needed the knicks to be relevant due to their large fanbase to help increase revenue as well as tv ratings.

    Scripted maybe not, but fixed 100%.

    Show me 1 industry in the world in which money is involved where there is not some type of thievery it doesn’t exist .


    I will say not every game is fixed but some are. In the NBA it was done for survival back in the day.
     In the NFL whether it be a ref getting paid off or the league desiring a beneficial outcome these things happen more frequently than you think.

    In fact several years ago Tim Donaghy spoke at my sons school and came out and said games are fixed!

    People can believe what they want but absolutely certain outcomes are FIXED.








     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by lancer89074:

       Morelli the crew chief looked at the replay and made the ruling. The much better question for you to ask is why the ruling was overturned.  The video clearly shows Polamalu making the interception...end of story. 
    Refs ruled it a completed pass and then fumble and recovery. Can not be a fumble and recovery without first being a completed pass.It took me about 3 minutes to google the catch rule in 2006, when a player catches the ball falling to the ground he must maintain control of the ball - AFTER - contacting the ground.The ref overturned the call because he said Troy's knee was still on the ground when Troy lost possesion, he did not maintain control - AFTER- contacting the ground, do do that he needed to have his knee off the ground before losing possesion.The reason the call was complerted pass and fumble was you'd have to look at the play to slowThe evidence of this game does not support what your saying Lancer.Your making up want you want to hear Lancer, simple as that.And because somebody on youtube said it was so is not evidence of anything. The only evidence that can be seen by your post is, you like to bend the info into what you what it to be.

    Hey the claw...here is a New York Times article stating that the NFL officials erred in overturning Polamalu's interception. Here is the link though I know that truth means very little to you:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2006/01/17/sports/pro-football-leagues-review-call-reversal-wrong.html

    The National Football League admitted yesterday that officials erred Sunday when they overturned an interception by Pittsburgh safety Troy Polamalu in the fourth quarter of the Steelers' 21-18 divisional playoff victory at Indianapolis.

    The N.F.L.'s vice president for officiating, Mike Pereira, saw it differently:

    "The definition of a catch -- or in this case an interception -- states that in the process of making the catch, a player must maintain possession of the ball after he contacts the ground," he said in a statement. "The initial call on the field was that Troy Polamalu intercepted the pass because he maintained possession of the ball after hitting the ground. The replay showed that Polamalu had rolled over and was rising to his feet when the ball came loose. He maintained possession long enough to establish a catch. Therefore, the replay review should have upheld the call on the field that it was a catch and fumble."

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by lancer89074:

       Morelli the crew chief looked at the replay and made the ruling. The much better question for you to ask is why the ruling was overturned.  The video clearly shows Polamalu making the interception...end of story. 
    Refs ruled it a completed pass and then fumble and recovery. Can not be a fumble and recovery without first being a completed pass.It took me about 3 minutes to google the catch rule in 2006, when a player catches the ball falling to the ground he must maintain control of the ball - AFTER - contacting the ground.The ref overturned the call because he said Troy's knee was still on the ground when Troy lost possesion, he did not maintain control - AFTER- contacting the ground, do do that he needed to have his knee off the ground before losing possesion.The reason the call was complerted pass and fumble was you'd have to look at the play to slowThe evidence of this game does not support what your saying Lancer.Your making up want you want to hear Lancer, simple as that.And because somebody on youtube said it was so is not evidence of anything. The only evidence that can be seen by your post is, you like to bend the info into what you what it to be.

    Hey the claw...here is a New York Times article stating that the NFL officials erred in overturning Polamalu's interception. Here is the link though I know that truth means very little to you:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2006/01/17/sports/pro-football-leagues-review-call-reversal-wrong.html

    The National Football League admitted yesterday that officials erred Sunday when they overturned an interception by Pittsburgh safety Troy Polamalu in the fourth quarter of the Steelers' 21-18 divisional playoff victory at Indianapolis.

    The N.F.L.'s vice president for officiating, Mike Pereira, saw it differently:

    "The definition of a catch -- or in this case an interception -- states that in the process of making the catch, a player must maintain possession of the ball after he contacts the ground," he said in a statement. "The initial call on the field was that Troy Polamalu intercepted the pass because he maintained possession of the ball after hitting the ground. The replay showed that Polamalu had rolled over and was rising to his feet when the ball came loose. He maintained possession long enough to establish a catch. Therefore, the replay review should have upheld the call on the field that it was a catch and fumble."

     

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