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    Guy_2U
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2012 - 3:23 PM ET #51

    Quote Originally Posted by AJCAcura:

     

     I agree except I dont think SF will score 20... I think the gap will be larger too... more like 35-14

    49ers will score on the Saints defense, the question to ask if the 49ers defense can slow down Brees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AJCAcura:

     

     I agree except I dont think SF will score 20... I think the gap will be larger too... more like 35-14

    49ers will score on the Saints defense, the question to ask if the 49ers defense can slow down Brees.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2012 - 3:31 PM ET #52

    Smokin - how on Earth can you make such a huge deal out of the niners losing at Arizona and neglect the Saints losing to a much worse St Louis team? Yeah the niners didn't play the toughest schedule ever but they play consistent football and win... not only that they are rested, have NO injuries aside from delanie walker, and half the team is putting up personal bests in the weight room last week and crediting their stregnth and conditioning coach for having them stronger and healthier at a point in the season when other teams are banged up. The Saints have never won a road playoff game despite being a "lock" in Seattle last year...

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    Smokin - how on Earth can you make such a huge deal out of the niners losing at Arizona and neglect the Saints losing to a much worse St Louis team? Yeah the niners didn't play the toughest schedule ever but they play consistent football and win... not only that they are rested, have NO injuries aside from delanie walker, and half the team is putting up personal bests in the weight room last week and crediting their stregnth and conditioning coach for having them stronger and healthier at a point in the season when other teams are banged up. The Saints have never won a road playoff game despite being a "lock" in Seattle last year...

     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2012 - 3:38 PM ET #53

    [Quote: Originally Posted by Guy_2U]

    49ers will score on the Saints defense, the question to ask if the 49ers defense can slow down Brees.

    The Saints will not score above their league high avg of 34, but the 49ers are awful in the Redzone.  You need to get td's in the playoffs and the Niner's just don't do that.  Fg's aren't gonna win this game!

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    [Quote: Originally Posted by Guy_2U]

    49ers will score on the Saints defense, the question to ask if the 49ers defense can slow down Brees.

    The Saints will not score above their league high avg of 34, but the 49ers are awful in the Redzone.  You need to get td's in the playoffs and the Niner's just don't do that.  Fg's aren't gonna win this game!

     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2012 - 3:55 PM ET #54

    goin to be a LARGE loss for you then
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    goin to be a LARGE loss for you then
     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2012 - 3:56 PM ET #55

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy_2U:

    49ers will score on the Saints defense, the question to ask if the 49ers defense can slow down Brees.

     

    not

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy_2U:

    49ers will score on the Saints defense, the question to ask if the 49ers defense can slow down Brees.

     

    not

     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2012 - 4:09 PM ET #56

    Quote Originally Posted by Professional1:

    going to be a large play for me on San Fran


    than its going to be a LARGE loss of $$ for you!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Professional1:

    going to be a large play for me on San Fran


    than its going to be a LARGE loss of $$ for you!!
     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2012 - 4:11 PM ET #57

    Quote Originally Posted by jbrust:

    Smokin - how on Earth can you make such a huge deal out of the niners losing at Arizona and neglect the Saints losing to a much worse St Louis team? Yeah the niners didn't play the toughest schedule ever but they play consistent football and win... not only that they are rested, have NO injuries aside from delanie walker, and half the team is putting up personal bests in the weight room last week and crediting their stregnth and conditioning coach for having them stronger and healthier at a point in the season when other teams are banged up. The Saints have never won a road playoff game despite being a "lock" in Seattle last year...

     

    Since the loss to St Louis, The saints have not lost a game SU or ATS... They have been on fire... I dont see SF putting that fire out... GB, Maybe... not SF

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbrust:

    Smokin - how on Earth can you make such a huge deal out of the niners losing at Arizona and neglect the Saints losing to a much worse St Louis team? Yeah the niners didn't play the toughest schedule ever but they play consistent football and win... not only that they are rested, have NO injuries aside from delanie walker, and half the team is putting up personal bests in the weight room last week and crediting their stregnth and conditioning coach for having them stronger and healthier at a point in the season when other teams are banged up. The Saints have never won a road playoff game despite being a "lock" in Seattle last year...

     

    Since the loss to St Louis, The saints have not lost a game SU or ATS... They have been on fire... I dont see SF putting that fire out... GB, Maybe... not SF

     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2012 - 4:42 PM ET #58

    its -4 saints at caliente now....-110....not that its interesting one way or the other yet for me
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    its -4 saints at caliente now....-110....not that its interesting one way or the other yet for me
     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2012 - 4:55 PM ET #59

    I got saints at -2.5 early this week... public is obviously betting saints
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    I got saints at -2.5 early this week... public is obviously betting saints
     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2012 - 5:02 PM ET #60

    Quote Originally Posted by dankszank:

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy_2U:

    49ers will score on the Saints defense, the question to ask if the 49ers defense can slow down Brees.

    The Saints will not score above their league high avg of 34, but the 49ers are awful in the Redzone.  You need to get td's in the playoffs and the Niner's just don't do that.  Fg's aren't gonna win this game!



    that is true the niners do struggle in the red zone but they did improve at the end of the season. that obviously will be one of the key factors. However you failed to conveniently mention how bad the Saints red zone defense is ranking #28. Writeups are worthless. I can make convincing arguments for both sides.

    Entering the playoffs, it appears the Niners can cross those red-zone issues off their fix-it list, and coach Jim Harbaugh said some of the credit can go to San Francisco’s defense.

    As the 49ers’ failings inside their opponents’ 20-yard line mounted during the season, Harbaugh devoted more practice time to red-zone plays. And he also had the offense match up against the first-string defense, instead of the scout team.

    The move made sense. The Niners’ defense, which finished the season ranked fourth-best in opponents’ red-zone touchdown percentage (41.2), provides some of the best competition the NFL can offer.

    “It’s actually something we’ve incorporated the last three weeks – going against our defense in the red zone,” Harbaugh said. “It’s been good for us. We’ll continue to build on that, especially this week, probably more than we have.”

    After scoring three touchdowns on 20 red-zone possessions, San Francisco finished the season by scoring touchdowns on six of its final eight possessions inside the 20.


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    Quote Originally Posted by dankszank:

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy_2U:

    49ers will score on the Saints defense, the question to ask if the 49ers defense can slow down Brees.

    The Saints will not score above their league high avg of 34, but the 49ers are awful in the Redzone.  You need to get td's in the playoffs and the Niner's just don't do that.  Fg's aren't gonna win this game!



    that is true the niners do struggle in the red zone but they did improve at the end of the season. that obviously will be one of the key factors. However you failed to conveniently mention how bad the Saints red zone defense is ranking #28. Writeups are worthless. I can make convincing arguments for both sides.

    Entering the playoffs, it appears the Niners can cross those red-zone issues off their fix-it list, and coach Jim Harbaugh said some of the credit can go to San Francisco’s defense.

    As the 49ers’ failings inside their opponents’ 20-yard line mounted during the season, Harbaugh devoted more practice time to red-zone plays. And he also had the offense match up against the first-string defense, instead of the scout team.

    The move made sense. The Niners’ defense, which finished the season ranked fourth-best in opponents’ red-zone touchdown percentage (41.2), provides some of the best competition the NFL can offer.

    “It’s actually something we’ve incorporated the last three weeks – going against our defense in the red zone,” Harbaugh said. “It’s been good for us. We’ll continue to build on that, especially this week, probably more than we have.”

    After scoring three touchdowns on 20 red-zone possessions, San Francisco finished the season by scoring touchdowns on six of its final eight possessions inside the 20.


     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2012 - 5:08 PM ET #61

    you can say how bad Alex Smith is but the fact is he only threw 5 interceptions the whole yr.The Niners were 1st in the league in not throwing interceptions and the Saints were dead last in intercepting passes so it is unlikely for Smith to throw an int in this game.

    now you can argue for the saints that the 49ers are 31st in the league in converting 3rd downs.

    i always look at both sides when making a wager. but give me the home team that does not turn the ball over, will make the saints one dimensional, playing a team that is very average on the road +4 anytime.
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    you can say how bad Alex Smith is but the fact is he only threw 5 interceptions the whole yr.The Niners were 1st in the league in not throwing interceptions and the Saints were dead last in intercepting passes so it is unlikely for Smith to throw an int in this game.

    now you can argue for the saints that the 49ers are 31st in the league in converting 3rd downs.

    i always look at both sides when making a wager. but give me the home team that does not turn the ball over, will make the saints one dimensional, playing a team that is very average on the road +4 anytime.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2012 - 5:15 PM ET #62

    saints are hot only because there playing @ home, but this 9rs home is open and there defense are good...so what you think guys?
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    saints are hot only because there playing @ home, but this 9rs home is open and there defense are good...so what you think guys?
     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2012 - 5:23 PM ET #63

    This is a pure mismatch.  The Saints strength is their passing game, which is the weakness of the niners defense.  The Saints weakness on defense is their secondary, but Alex Smith will not be able to expose that weakness. 

    If you don't think that the niners are weak against the pass please look at what good qbs did against them before replying.  (And no, Skelton and Tarvaris Jackson don't count).
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    This is a pure mismatch.  The Saints strength is their passing game, which is the weakness of the niners defense.  The Saints weakness on defense is their secondary, but Alex Smith will not be able to expose that weakness. 

    If you don't think that the niners are weak against the pass please look at what good qbs did against them before replying.  (And no, Skelton and Tarvaris Jackson don't count).
     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2012 - 5:25 PM ET #64

    SF has only played 3 games in the regular season against teams who made it to the playoffs.... Saints have played 5 teams that made it to the playoffs, for a total of 6 games (Played ATL twice) 7 if you count the repeat of Det in the wildcard game.

    Saints lost to was GB..

    SF lost to Balt

    Compare similar playoff worthy opponants:

    SF beat NYG by 7..........Saints be NYG by 25

    SF beat Det by 7.............Saints beat Det by 14 & by 17

     

     

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    SF has only played 3 games in the regular season against teams who made it to the playoffs.... Saints have played 5 teams that made it to the playoffs, for a total of 6 games (Played ATL twice) 7 if you count the repeat of Det in the wildcard game.

    Saints lost to was GB..

    SF lost to Balt

    Compare similar playoff worthy opponants:

    SF beat NYG by 7..........Saints be NYG by 25

    SF beat Det by 7.............Saints beat Det by 14 & by 17

     

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2012 - 5:27 PM ET #65

    Quote Originally Posted by tmac0210:

    saints are hot only because there playing @ home, but this 9rs home is open and there defense are good...so what you think guys?

    Saints won their last 3 road games... and were 5-3 on the road for the season... SF has lost at home... do dont act like they cant be beat at home.. 2 of the 3 losses away were in games that they should have won and probably went into them thinking they would be easy... Again, they wont be doing that here because they know it wont be easy in this game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tmac0210:

    saints are hot only because there playing @ home, but this 9rs home is open and there defense are good...so what you think guys?

    Saints won their last 3 road games... and were 5-3 on the road for the season... SF has lost at home... do dont act like they cant be beat at home.. 2 of the 3 losses away were in games that they should have won and probably went into them thinking they would be easy... Again, they wont be doing that here because they know it wont be easy in this game.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2012 - 5:28 PM ET #66

    Quote Originally Posted by tmac0210:

    saints are hot only because there playing @ home, but this 9rs home is open and there defense are good...so what you think guys?

    Saints won their last 3 road games... and were 5-3 on the road for the season... SF has lost at home... do dont act like they cant be beat at home.. 2 of the 3 losses away were in games that they should have won and probably went into them thinking they would be easy... Again, they wont be doing that here because they know it wont be easy in this game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tmac0210:

    saints are hot only because there playing @ home, but this 9rs home is open and there defense are good...so what you think guys?

    Saints won their last 3 road games... and were 5-3 on the road for the season... SF has lost at home... do dont act like they cant be beat at home.. 2 of the 3 losses away were in games that they should have won and probably went into them thinking they would be easy... Again, they wont be doing that here because they know it wont be easy in this game.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2012 - 5:45 PM ET #67

    Quote Originally Posted by AJCAcura:

    SF has only played 3 games in the regular season against teams who made it to the playoffs.... .

     


    SF is 4-1 against playoff teams 

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    Quote Originally Posted by AJCAcura:

    SF has only played 3 games in the regular season against teams who made it to the playoffs.... .

     


    SF is 4-1 against playoff teams 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2012 - 5:47 PM ET #68

    49rs +3 under 47
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    49rs +3 under 47
     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2012 - 6:06 PM ET #69

    SF played a creampuff  schedule playing only 5 games vs playoff opponents something has to be said for playing 6 gms vs STL, SEA, AZ 

    and have not faced a team all season with similar weapons as the Saints possess

    Dallas, NYG and Pitt were as good as it got in terms of high scoring offenses and all 3 qb's posted +300 yrds vs their defense

    They will not be able to contain Brees, Sproles, Graham, Colston, Thomas, Meachem and win this on FG's

     

     

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    SF played a creampuff  schedule playing only 5 games vs playoff opponents something has to be said for playing 6 gms vs STL, SEA, AZ 

    and have not faced a team all season with similar weapons as the Saints possess

    Dallas, NYG and Pitt were as good as it got in terms of high scoring offenses and all 3 qb's posted +300 yrds vs their defense

    They will not be able to contain Brees, Sproles, Graham, Colston, Thomas, Meachem and win this on FG's

     

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by AJCAcura:

    SF has only played 3 games in the regular season against teams who made it to the playoffs....


    Not true. Baltimore, Pitt, Cincy, NYG and Detroit. The only loss was to Baltimore, on a 3-day week.

    This is one of the only things that matter to me:

    Outdoors this year, the Saints have scored 22 (Tenn), 20 (T.B. - who, the week before SF ROUTED. So there goes your silly common opponent argument), and 23 (Jax). None of those are playoff teams and none of those teams have the best defense in the NFC.

    Twenty-two -- Twenty -- Twenty-Three

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    Quote Originally Posted by AJCAcura:

    SF has only played 3 games in the regular season against teams who made it to the playoffs....


    Not true. Baltimore, Pitt, Cincy, NYG and Detroit. The only loss was to Baltimore, on a 3-day week.

    This is one of the only things that matter to me:

    Outdoors this year, the Saints have scored 22 (Tenn), 20 (T.B. - who, the week before SF ROUTED. So there goes your silly common opponent argument), and 23 (Jax). None of those are playoff teams and none of those teams have the best defense in the NFC.

    Twenty-two -- Twenty -- Twenty-Three

    Jussayin.

     
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    Like it GL Professional1
    What do you call an Eternal Optimist? An accordion player with a beeper!
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    Like it GL Professional1
     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2012 - 7:45 PM ET #72

    Quote Originally Posted by Professional1:

    i can assure you the saints wont be able to run making them one dimensional. brees will be under pressure all day. saints on the road are nothing to be feared.
    Disagree, respectively.  The 49ers have not faced an offense this dynamic all year.  Brees will pick apart this team, Sproles and Thomas will find enough room to not be one dimensional.  Saints weakness on defense is the pass, and thats expected when teams are constantly throwing trying to keep up.  Alex Smith will have to throw for 300 and NO picks to win.  SF will hang around, but when they'll need to play from behind late I see Smith not getting it done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Professional1:

    i can assure you the saints wont be able to run making them one dimensional. brees will be under pressure all day. saints on the road are nothing to be feared.
    Disagree, respectively.  The 49ers have not faced an offense this dynamic all year.  Brees will pick apart this team, Sproles and Thomas will find enough room to not be one dimensional.  Saints weakness on defense is the pass, and thats expected when teams are constantly throwing trying to keep up.  Alex Smith will have to throw for 300 and NO picks to win.  SF will hang around, but when they'll need to play from behind late I see Smith not getting it done.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2012 - 8:02 PM ET #73

     The 49ers Strength of Schedule for 2011 was 30 out of 32 teams. Yes they have a good team, and good coach and are playing at home. And, yes they can win the game, but I feel the Saints will be able to score at least 24 points and win the game. I also feel the saints will score in the 30's and cover the spread.
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     The 49ers Strength of Schedule for 2011 was 30 out of 32 teams. Yes they have a good team, and good coach and are playing at home. And, yes they can win the game, but I feel the Saints will be able to score at least 24 points and win the game. I also feel the saints will score in the 30's and cover the spread.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2012 - 8:17 PM ET #74

    I work in SF and its beautiful here! No wind! Gotta go with the Saints!

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    I work in SF and its beautiful here! No wind! Gotta go with the Saints!

     
     
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    Gl bud
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