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#76
Question sosa, whose better Brady or Payton
Big Ben or Eli
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Roethlisberger: "My goal is to win 5 Super Bowls."
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#77
Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:
The problem wasnt the INT, rather that the INT was allowed to score with so many penalties during the return, AND that the Pitt defense didnt allow a TD when Ben coughed it up like he did.
The Pitt defense for 3/4 of the game was why they won, although they got lit up like a christmas tree during that 4th Q..man I dont get why Wisenhunt didnt try the no-huddle earlier, ole Dick was sh!tting his pants watching the Cards mow them down on that possession.
Arizona deserved the game just as much as Pitt did, especially with that 4th quarter comeback.
The problem wasnt the INT, rather that the INT was allowed to score with so many penalties during the return, AND that the Pitt defense didnt allow a TD when Ben coughed it up like he did.
The Pitt defense for 3/4 of the game was why they won, although they got lit up like a christmas tree during that 4th Q..man I dont get why Wisenhunt didnt try the no-huddle earlier, ole Dick was sh!tting his pants watching the Cards mow them down on that possession.
Arizona deserved the game just as much as Pitt did, especially with that 4th quarter comeback.
I respect your comments, Wisenhunt a former offensive coordinator with Big Ben since he came into the league, practiced every day against Dick LeBeau's defense, not to mention Russ Grimm, a former OL coach for the Steelers, who should know all there is to know about LeBeau's defense, and Big Ben.
Arizona should have lit Pittsburgh's D up, but as a TEAM, they choked. 
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#78
Quote Originally Posted by geddy_lee:
It depends how you define better. All of them have different situations. Brady has had the luxury to play for Bill Belicheck, but then again he made it work when his WR's were Troy Brown and David Patten. Big Ben played for the #1 ranked D for I believe 3/5 years....Peyton has had 2 great wr's but a shitty defense for many many years. One way I like to see who's better is by putting them in a tough situation.Question sosa, whose better Brady or Payton
Big Ben or Eli
If the 4 QB's you mentioned were all given a chance to play 16 games as the starting qb for the 2008-2009 DETROIT LIONS...there isnt a doubt in my mind that Peyton would have the best record, followed by TOM BRADY, followed by ELI MANNING, followed by BIG BEN. Big Ben is the beneficiary of a great system, a great team, a great defense etc.
Big Ben goes 0-16 with those Lions where PEYTON AND TOM 100% get a victory if not multiple. Eli at most gets 1.
Pittsburgh fans will say "it doesn't matter because Big Ben plays for Pitt and not DETROIT"...while that is 100% fact...It only makes me feel stronger about my "Big Ben can only flourish in PITT or another amazing team"........carry on ladies.
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#81
Quote from Samuel: Peyton Manning
on his bad day is a better
QB than Ben on one of his better days. Peyton
knows more about the QB position than
Ben would learn in two lifetimes.
Your stupidity continues to amaze me. I thought it
would wear off by now, but it hasn't. Thanks for
the laughs.
And if you really believe that, you really are
not very intelligent. But by all means keep
posting. It's entertaining as Hell!
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Posted:
#82
Big Ben goes 0-16 with those Lions where
PEYTON AND TOM 100% get a victory if not
multiple. Eli at most gets 1.
Keep 'em comin' dude! That's great!
Oh by the way... go ahead and make a list of all
the great WR's Ben has had in the last five years.
Aside from Hines and Santonio (Holmes has
played only two years), there are none. I noticed
you didn't mention that. I'll even
save you some time... dont say Burress. Ben
played one year with him and he had 35 catches.
Take a look at Ben's numbers...
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/R/RoetBe00.htm
You cant look at those, know something
about football, and say he's not an elite
QB. I dont care what system he's in.
This really is futile. I'm not going to change
your mind, but I enjoy the idiocy you
bring with your responses. 
you
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Posted:
#84
Quote Originally Posted by samuelsosa:
Big Ben goes 0-16 with those Lions where PEYTON AND TOM 100% get a victory if not multiple. Eli at most gets 1.
Pittsburgh fans will say "it doesn't matter because Big Ben plays for Pitt and not DETROIT"...while that is 100% fact...It only makes me feel stronger about my "Big Ben can only flourish in PITT or another amazing team"........carry on ladies.
Big Ben goes 0-16 with those Lions where PEYTON AND TOM 100% get a victory if not multiple. Eli at most gets 1.
Pittsburgh fans will say "it doesn't matter because Big Ben plays for Pitt and not DETROIT"...while that is 100% fact...It only makes me feel stronger about my "Big Ben can only flourish in PITT or another amazing team"........carry on ladies.
WOW, keep embarrasing yourself.
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#88
Quote Originally Posted by samuelsosa:
I stand by what I said.
LOL... Love how you keep calling BEN "average" but yet you keep comparing him to Peyton and Brady... Two QB's that may end up being the best ever.. but then you have to because if you look at Bens first five years in the NFL and the what he has accomplished (including stats) you have no one else to compare him to..I stand by what I said.
...
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#90
Quote Originally Posted by JACKSPLAT:
LOL... Love how you keep calling BEN "average" but yet you keep comparing him to Peyton and Brady... Two QB's that may end up being the best ever.. but then you have to because if you look at Bens first five years in the NFL and the what he has accomplished (including stats) you have no one else to compare him to.....
I didnt compare shit. I was asked a question
LOL... Love how you keep calling BEN "average" but yet you keep comparing him to Peyton and Brady... Two QB's that may end up being the best ever.. but then you have to because if you look at Bens first five years in the NFL and the what he has accomplished (including stats) you have no one else to compare him to..
... "
Question sosa, whose better Brady or Payton
Big Ben or Eli'
and I answered it.
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#92
wallstreet said it best
"Ben is a game manager, he is not a great passing QB, he is big and tough to tackle, he is gritty and cocky and has many great qualities..but as a passing QB he does not have the skills of the names mentioned here, but on that team he does not NEED those skills.
It is similar to how Tomlin inherited a great team, the true sign of the quality of the individual is how they do given difficult circumstances, not inheriting the Steelers and that awesome organization."
WALLSTREET
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#93
Another gem from wallstreet.....
"Ben in the beneficiary of a great team, a great defense, a great offensive line, he is average per his abilities and how he would fare on a bad team." -Wallstreet
Wallstreet.....I couldn't agree more with everything except the great offensive line. It was about as average as Ben .0
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#94
Quote Originally Posted by samuelsosa:
LOL... Thank you.. I quote your swami... "The true quality of the individual is how they do given diffiucult circumstances" Well Rainman I would call a QB leading a SB winning game drive 80 yards away from the end zone with 2 minutes left behind a line that gave up FIFTY SACKS pretty difficult ... And clutch.. No defense there just a stone cold clutch QB THROWING the rock under the glear of the biggest spotlight in any sport.. PS.. He also did the same thing for 3 GAMES ON THE ROAD on his first SB run.. He won those 3 games on the road not the defense.. Do your homework.. Ben average wallstreet said it best
"Ben is a game manager, he is not a great passing QB, he is big and tough to tackle, he is gritty and cocky and has many great qualities..but as a passing QB he does not have the skills of the names mentioned here, but on that team he does not NEED those skills.
It is similar to how Tomlin inherited a great team, the true sign of the quality of the individual is how they do given difficult circumstances, not inheriting the Steelers and that awesome organization."
WALLSTREET
... Like the Rolling Stones were average..
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#96
Quote Originally Posted by samuelsosa:
Nothing to say about the quote you were Blah Blah Blah.....thats what I hear when Steelers homers open their mouths. Lucky for them they probably wont see Ben on a mediocre team and wont have to realize the sad sad news that Ben is average.
YOU HOMER!! YOU JUST COMPARED BEN TO THE ROLLING STONES!!
GOD THIS IS ENTERTAINING.
... did not think so.. 'Given difficult circumstances"... Wall ...... Its hard to argue with any substance when I can use your own quotes you were ... To prove you misinformed again.. keep your day job rainman..
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#98
MDAAKD......I am very saddened by your remarks. I told you that the VIKINGS were a very good team but they had arguably the worst QB in the NFL, and with the worst QB in the NFL they didnt stand a CHANCE at the SUPERBOWL. Now theyve added a HUGE HUGE upgrade and have finally given them a chance for a title. Congrats. You needed this BIG time.
I bash every team? 
........I have no problem giving credit to Peyton or Tom Brady....why is that? Because they're actually GREAT players? silly me.
........I have no problem giving credit to Peyton or Tom Brady....why is that? Because they're actually GREAT players? silly me.0
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#99
Quote Originally Posted by JACKSPLAT:
Nothing to say about the quote you were... did not think so.. 'Given difficult circumstances"... Wall ...... Its hard to argue with any substance when I can use your own quotes you were ... To prove you misinformed again.. keep your day job rainman..
Difficult circumstances were the first SB also....where Ben played like a woman. What is your point?
Nothing to say about the quote you were
... did not think so.. 'Given difficult circumstances"... Wall ...... Its hard to argue with any substance when I can use your own quotes you were ... To prove you misinformed again.. keep your day job rainman.. 0
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