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#101
Brady
Peyton
Carson
Brees
Mcnabb(in regular season)
Peyton
Carson
Brees
Mcnabb(in regular season)
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Name Your Top 5 Quarterbacks Now
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#103
Quote Originally Posted by claycourtlesson:
Best thing about Big Ben is that the mofo just always seems to "get away" from crap and convert 3rd downs, which to me is the most important stat for a QB, then the turnover stat.
FYI- Romo led the league in 3rd down QB rating and also led the league in 3rd down conversions...he is the best at what you described i have ever seen...although Big ben is excellent at it too
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#106
Quote Originally Posted by nawlins51:
Steel I got plenty of love for Big Ben.I just don't think he is a Top 5 QB.He is a good QB but not top 5. Romo isn't even in the top 10 and never will be.
Bulger is really a good QB.Its not his fault he has to get his head examined every dropback he takes. Give him the protection and not washed up WR's and he will make the pro bowl.Garrard may drop off this year but imo I think he will continue where he left off.IMO the Jags take the AFC south. Colts make playoffs as a wild card.I know alot will attack me for it but the Jags are young and hungry and have a defense with an adequate offense to make a serious run this year in the AFC.Just remember this post about the Jags. Hoping to get some good value on them early in the season.
i swear either some of you guys are haters or don't know shit about football. i am a raven fan so i have no bias here. here are the facts for you guys...as they say the stats don't lie.
Romo was number 5 in rating. 3rd in passing yards, 2nd in touchdowns, completed 65% of his passes, 2nd best yards per attempt, first in 3rd down QB rating and 3rd downs converted AND THIS WAS HIS FIRST FULL YEAR AS A STARTER!!!
don't start saying yeah but he has great weapons. he has TO and Witten. Carson has CJ, TJ, Henry. Manning has harrison, wayne, clark, gonzalez. brady has moss welker, stallworth, watson.
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#110
Yeah, I think it's painfully obvious that the guys who are saying that Romo doesn't belong are either haters or those A.B.C. (Anybody But Cowboys) fans...
And those with McNabb in there are still living in the past. This is 2008 people, no way in hell he is top 5 this year OR even last year...lay off the crack-pipe fellas! 
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#111
Quote Originally Posted by TheGreatToby:
89.9 QBR is top5!
(McNabb)
WRONG! Actually, 89.9 is just good enough for 9th! Just behind him with 89.8 was Kurt Warner...just to put that into perspective for ya!
Top 10 QB Rating
1. Brady
2. Roethlisberger
3. Garrard
4. P. Manning
5. Romo
6. Favre
7. Garcia
8. Hasselbeck
9. McNabb
10. Warner
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#113
Quote Originally Posted by TheGreatToby:
89.9 QBR is top5!
Excuse me but 89.9 was good enough for 7th in the league. I mean do you see what type of morons we have to deal with on a regular basis? MCNABB 89.9, 7th in the league rating, and injured and constant ridicule for first 10 games of season.
I love this Mcnabb fight, cause I cant lose. No one can tell me that Donovan McNabb isnt a premiere quarterback in this league. I dont even like the fukin eagles, lol.
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#114
Quote Originally Posted by JackSmack:
Premiere???? Do you feel well? You may need some medicine.Excuse me but 89.9 was good enough for 7th in the league. I mean do you see what type of morons we have to deal with on a regular basis? MCNABB 89.9, 7th in the league rating, and injured and constant ridicule for first 10 games of season.
I love this Mcnabb fight, cause I cant lose. No one can tell me that Donovan McNabb isnt a premiere quarterback in this league. I dont even like the fukin eagles, lol.
Look @ McN stats.........with all of those good teams he went to the Big Game once........When he got there they jacked him for 3 balls. In 25 years no one will mention this guy except his Mom and philly fans.
The worst part of it all is yet to come. Back there looking like an arthritic old man running in snow with his old ass. I would rather watch a mule get shoes before I watch that carnival on Sunday.
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#115
McNab's career QB Rating... Drumroll .........................................................................................................................................................................................................................85.8 
Next question...this one is done!!!!!!!!!
Next question...this one is done!!!!!!!!!0
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#117
Suckerfree, his WRs have beens suspect outside of TO, until now w/Curtis. Even Curtis is marginal.
Here's the deal. It is glaringly obvious that you don't know your ass from page 8 when it comes to the game. Add to the fact that you don't watch the guy game in and game out.
I'll help you out here and give you a little lesson in footbal 101.
You see son, it isn't easy to throw against a def when THROUGHOUT the course of your career you have avg @ best WRs and you THROW THE BALL MORE THAN YOU RUN.
It makes things easy for a def to pin back their ears and bring the heat.
Now son, I'm willing to bet you haven't ever buttoned a chinstrap let alone tied a pair of spikes on for any sporting event. I'm looking past all that and thinking that maybe this year your square head finally gets it.
I'll take it a step further. I have a couple buddies that are coaches/frontoffice types in the league. They constantly bust my balls about how the Philly fans are morons and don't realize that this guy is a stud. In philly the guy gets his ass kicked on sports radio (mostly from ill informed boys like yourself) by guys looking to boost ratings and be negative.
Don't listen to me, but I'd think that people who make a nice living in the game might know a tad more than some bozo who has an axe to grind b/c he drafted him for his fantasy team and got injured (and played through it) etc.
Let's see what the guy does this season.
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#118
1. Remember this post.......because one of will be back in this thread and one of us won't.
2. I played every sport
3. How many west coast offenses produced QB's with great numbers with shit receivers? More then 1
4.McNab is done, he is in the twilight of an above average career. I will take those odds everytime.
5. See your dumb ass week 6. I guaranteee guy. you will have nothing but more excuses for th
2. I played every sport
3. How many west coast offenses produced QB's with great numbers with shit receivers? More then 1
4.McNab is done, he is in the twilight of an above average career. I will take those odds everytime.
5. See your dumb ass week 6. I guaranteee guy. you will have nothing but more excuses for th
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#119
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#122
I think if McNabb can stay healthy he will easily be one of the better QB's in the league. He actually is not that old considering that there are many QB's that play into their late 30's. If the Eagles can give him some talent anytime soon (his receivers really have been pathedic over the years, and pathedic is probably being too nice), he has the ability to put up really nice numbers. But that all goes out the window if he cant stay healthy. This is just one case where a player got into the wrong system. What would have happened had NE drafted him? Or Pittsburgh? Or Dallas? All those teams just have better organizations and generally more talent around their QB's. Oh well. I just think the excessive bashing of this guy is uncalled for. JMO.
There's a link to his career numbers, which aren't all that bad. He really has taken a beating over the years.
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#123
2004 is an excellent year, 2001 is a great year........the rest of those years are average QB play. Numbers do not lie...
Sometimes you get a guy who wins late and ugly....Montana.......where the players heart circumvents the numbers..... Mcnab has not even won...so we can not even use that logic.
Sometimes you get a guy who wins late and ugly....Montana.......where the players heart circumvents the numbers..... Mcnab has not even won...so we can not even use that logic.
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#124
Steelcash, great link. Went to his playoff stats on that site. Some of those that are a bit misinformed should look @ who he thew TDs to in the playoffs. The list isn't exactly filled with HOFers.
Sucker----the guy is 7-5 in the playoffs (SB loss to Brady & Pats, which certainly isn't a horrible loss-EVEN a clueless fan such as yourself should agree). Keep in mind that when they went to the SB To was injured throughout the playoofs and was sidelined. Peyton is 7-7 w/a SB win.
Based on your logic of "winning", guys like Marino, Fouts, Kelly etc. all sucked as well right?
What have guys like Palmer and Brees won?
Also, based on your theory we have to label Trent Dilfer (Ravens) as a "winner" or great?
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#125
Do not put words in my mouth kid. I said sometimes, not always there is a huge difference in there.
If you had a choice at any QB your telling me your first choice would be Marino or Fouts all-time???? The took an entire career to prove they can't win. 7-5 in the playoffs is OK......
I am sure Mcnabb would have went lower in the draft if people would have known he has not won a superbowl @ this point and he would be running a 6.2 40 yard.
This year will be great, I bet he does not make it the entire season for a number of reasons. I can't wait!
TOP 5 this year..... He will be one year older and one year uglier than last year is all.
If you had a choice at any QB your telling me your first choice would be Marino or Fouts all-time???? The took an entire career to prove they can't win. 7-5 in the playoffs is OK......
I am sure Mcnabb would have went lower in the draft if people would have known he has not won a superbowl @ this point and he would be running a 6.2 40 yard.
This year will be great, I bet he does not make it the entire season for a number of reasons. I can't wait!
TOP 5 this year..... He will be one year older and one year uglier than last year is all.
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