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Im not trying to be on a late night rant or argue, just pointing out very important factors when it comes to betting on the cowboys.......but what do i know, i guess i just get lucky guesses from time, i just cashed in a nice lil parlay with GT +7 and under 47.5, and the drinks at boulder station seemed extra strong tonight.......
 
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Giants and under....24-17 Cowgirls will not survive the season...
 
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MoneySRH I respect your opinion, but you sound like every other cowboys fan I talk to......you can throw all the stats in the world out there, when it comes to crunch time Tony person is horrible. With all those stats, you forgot to mention how playoff wins does he have? How many game costing bad decisions has he made? Brett Favre has all the stats too, but one that could be the most important....most career int's is often forgotten.

And if Romo and the offense did build a lead, is it all on the defense to sustain it? the offense still needs to maintain drives and score points in the 4th qtr for the team to win.

And again, Romo probably does lead Eli in stats, but what does that mean? If you are that much into individual stats you should draft person with your first round fantasy pick....Eli has 2 rings, both of them due to quite a few great decisions and throws by Eli (in the playoffs and superbowl when it really matters, not in a season opener or meaningless regular season game)

If you cant tell by now I really dont like the cowboys, but i try be objective as far as betting goes, I look at players and matchups, and I just dont see the giants losing here.....it will be a close game but person will make one of his favre like mistakes towards the end of the game and the giants will cover
When it comes to crunch time Tony person is horrible? Ranked number 1 in the fourth quarter in crunch time. So the numbers say you’re wrong. You used biased media opinion and I have numbers and statistics to back it up. The media is responsible for all of this bullshit.

With all those stats, you forgot to mention how playoff wins does he have? How many Superbowls does Dan Marino have? Has Dallas ever been a playoff team in the five years he has been QB? If you say yes, then you’re a fucking dumbass like of the rest of the sheep amateurs. Offensive lines and defense wins championships and Romo has never had either, but still puts up record breaking NFL numbers.

How many game costing bad decisions has he made? About 3 last season, the media highlights those repeatedly leaving out the defense choking, the kicker choking, Dez running the wrong route, austin losing the ball in the lights while he’s hurt, and the line repeatedly caving in around him, but Eli and brady had 4 bad games last season, one more than Romo did and guess what... no one talks about those.

Ask Brady and Rodgers what it’s like to get a lead and have your offensive line or defense give the game away. It happened to them when it mattered most. Romo can’t make playoff throws without a playoff caliber team around him. Fuck do people even know football anymore.

I’ve seen Brady and Eli throw crucial interceptions under pressure and no one talks about them because the interceptions aren’t talked about in a win after the defense bails them out. Eli and Brady take all the credit and the defense was the reason they really won.

The problem is Romo seems to give Dallas a lead late in the fourth repeatedly. Then the defense gives up a long drive with hardly anytime left. Two things constantly happen. One is Romo gets them in scoring range and the kicker hooks it or the kick is blocked. The second is when it’s crunch time and that’s the time the line decides to cave in around him and gives up a crucial sack. It’s funny how the media leaves that part out.

People expect Romo to never throw INT’s, be ranked number 1 against the blitz, number 2 in QBR in NFL history, number 1 in the 4th quarter, the GM, head coach, offensive coordinator, defensive coordinator, the kicker, the punter, play offensive line, heal injuries, and play defense. On top of that, people believe Romo should put up Oregon duck numbers every week with a pathetic football team that he has had over the years. I’ve never seen a player get attacked like this before.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by MoneySRH:

When it comes to crunch time Tony person is horrible? Ranked number 1 in the fourth quarter in crunch time. So the numbers say you’re wrong. You used biased media opinion and I have numbers and statistics to back it up. The media is responsible for all of this bullshit.

With all those stats, you forgot to mention how playoff wins does he have? How many Superbowls does Dan Marino have? Has Dallas ever been a playoff team in the five years he has been QB? If you say yes, then you’re a fucking dumbass like of the rest of the sheep amateurs. Offensive lines and defense wins championships and Romo has never had either, but still puts up record breaking NFL numbers.

How many game costing bad decisions has he made? About 3 last season, the media highlights those repeatedly leaving out the defense choking, the kicker choking, Dez running the wrong route, austin losing the ball in the lights while he’s hurt, and the line repeatedly caving in around him, but Eli and brady had 4 bad games last season, one more than Romo did and guess what... no one talks about those.

Ask Brady and Rodgers what it’s like to get a lead and have your offensive line or defense give the game away. It happened to them when it mattered most. Romo can’t make playoff throws without a playoff caliber team around him. Fuck do people even know football anymore.

I’ve seen Brady and Eli throw crucial interceptions under pressure and no one talks about them because the interceptions aren’t talked about in a win after the defense bails them out. Eli and Brady take all the credit and the defense was the reason they really won.

The problem is Romo seems to give Dallas a lead late in the fourth repeatedly. Then the defense gives up a long drive with hardly anytime left. Two things constantly happen. One is Romo gets them in scoring range and the kicker hooks it or the kick is blocked. The second is when it’s crunch time and that’s the time the line decides to cave in around him and gives up a crucial sack. It’s funny how the media leaves that part out.

People expect Romo to never throw INT’s, be ranked number 1 against the blitz, number 2 in QBR in NFL history, number 1 in the 4th quarter, the GM, head coach, offensive coordinator, defensive coordinator, the kicker, the punter, play offensive line, heal injuries, and play defense. On top of that, people believe Romo should put up Oregon duck numbers every week with a pathetic football team that he has had over the years. I’ve never seen a player get attacked like this before.

This clown is a joke. Eli has been makign comebacks and since his rookie year.  Another dope. 
 
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This clown is a joke. Eli has been makign comebacks and since his rookie year.  Another dope. 
Oh shit a jersey shore  mayweather fan wants shit with me. STFU… I don’t care what a keep duckin chicken shit floyd mayweather fan thinks of my post. Why don’t you go be butt-hurt with keep duckin’s sweaty nervous balls in your mouth. It must be hard for you to bang keep duckin butt-hurt may with his asshole puckered up shut thinking about pacman 24/7.

Eli wasn’t shit till he had the best ranked offensive line and number 1 pass rushing defense, so STFU till you get on my level, and plus Eli lead the league in interceptions twice before he had a team around him, so much for being elite since his rookie year. Go away amateur. I was having a heated debate with real cappers.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by MoneySRH:

Oh shit a jersey shore  mayweather fan wants shit with me. STFU… I don’t care what a keep duckin chicken shit floyd mayweather fan thinks of my post. Why don’t you go be butt-hurt with keep duckin’s sweaty nervous balls in your mouth. It must be hard for you to bang keep duckin butt-hurt may with his asshole puckered up shut thinking about pacman 24/7.

Eli wasn’t shit till he had the best ranked offensive line and number 1 pass rushing defense, so STFU till you get on my level, and plus Eli lead the league in interceptions twice before he had a team around him, so much for being elite since his rookie year. Go away amateur. I was having a heated debate with real cappers.

best ranked offensive line? Eli was the most pressured and had the 32nd ranked rushing attack last year

GIants defense his sb winning years were raned lower than 15th in the league

What are you talking about?
 
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Warren Sapp and Marshall Faulk arguing whether Tony Romo is a choke artist:
https://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-total-access/09000d5d8222dd4e/Choking-Romo

That said, I'm probably on the Cowboys +4.  And they can win it.

But Romo has choked plenty of games.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by MoneySRH:

When it comes to crunch time Tony person is horrible? Ranked number 1 in the fourth quarter in crunch time. So the numbers say you’re wrong. You used biased media opinion and I have numbers and statistics to back it up. The media is responsible for all of this bullshit.

With all those stats, you forgot to mention how playoff wins does he have? How many Superbowls does Dan Marino have? Has Dallas ever been a playoff team in the five years he has been QB? If you say yes, then you’re a fucking dumbass like of the rest of the sheep amateurs. Offensive lines and defense wins championships and Romo has never had either, but still puts up record breaking NFL numbers.

How many game costing bad decisions has he made? About 3 last season, the media highlights those repeatedly leaving out the defense choking, the kicker choking, Dez running the wrong route, austin losing the ball in the lights while he’s hurt, and the line repeatedly caving in around him, but Eli and brady had 4 bad games last season, one more than Romo did and guess what... no one talks about those.

Ask Brady and Rodgers what it’s like to get a lead and have your offensive line or defense give the game away. It happened to them when it mattered most. Romo can’t make playoff throws without a playoff caliber team around him. Fuck do people even know football anymore.

I’ve seen Brady and Eli throw crucial interceptions under pressure and no one talks about them because the interceptions aren’t talked about in a win after the defense bails them out. Eli and Brady take all the credit and the defense was the reason they really won.

The problem is Romo seems to give Dallas a lead late in the fourth repeatedly. Then the defense gives up a long drive with hardly anytime left. Two things constantly happen. One is Romo gets them in scoring range and the kicker hooks it or the kick is blocked. The second is when it’s crunch time and that’s the time the line decides to cave in around him and gives up a crucial sack. It’s funny how the media leaves that part out.

People expect Romo to never throw INT’s, be ranked number 1 against the blitz, number 2 in QBR in NFL history, number 1 in the 4th quarter, the GM, head coach, offensive coordinator, defensive coordinator, the kicker, the punter, play offensive line, heal injuries, and play defense. On top of that, people believe Romo should put up Oregon duck numbers every week with a pathetic football team that he has had over the years. I’ve never seen a player get attacked like this before.


I agree that a) quarterbacks get way too much credit and take way too much blame for the outcome of games, and b) Tony Romo's reputation as a choker is blown waaaaaaaaay out of proportion by the propaganda channels of the main stream media . . . and I despise Jerry Jones and the Cowboys with every living cell in my body.

 
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been watching romo choke away huge games for years.  i'm not the media.

i don't know what world you're living in where romo doesn't choke and eli doesn't make comebacks.
 
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O/U DOWN TO 45  OVER IT IS..!!!!

AS FOR THE WINNER OF THE GAME, I THINK THE G-MEN KICK A LATE FG & WIN 27-24...GL TO EVERYONE THIS SEASON

 
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Quote Originally Posted by MoneySRH:

When it comes to crunch time Tony person is horrible? Ranked number 1 in the fourth quarter in crunch time. So the numbers say you’re wrong. You used biased media opinion and I have numbers and statistics to back it up. The media is responsible for all of this bullshit.

With all those stats, you forgot to mention how playoff wins does he have? How many Superbowls does Dan Marino have? Has Dallas ever been a playoff team in the five years he has been QB? If you say yes, then you’re a fucking dumbass like of the rest of the sheep amateurs. Offensive lines and defense wins championships and Romo has never had either, but still puts up record breaking NFL numbers.

How many game costing bad decisions has he made? About 3 last season, the media highlights those repeatedly leaving out the defense choking, the kicker choking, Dez running the wrong route, austin losing the ball in the lights while he’s hurt, and the line repeatedly caving in around him, but Eli and brady had 4 bad games last season, one more than Romo did and guess what... no one talks about those.

Ask Brady and Rodgers what it’s like to get a lead and have your offensive line or defense give the game away. It happened to them when it mattered most. Romo can’t make playoff throws without a playoff caliber team around him. Fuck do people even know football anymore.

I’ve seen Brady and Eli throw crucial interceptions under pressure and no one talks about them because the interceptions aren’t talked about in a win after the defense bails them out. Eli and Brady take all the credit and the defense was the reason they really won.

The problem is Romo seems to give Dallas a lead late in the fourth repeatedly. Then the defense gives up a long drive with hardly anytime left. Two things constantly happen. One is Romo gets them in scoring range and the kicker hooks it or the kick is blocked. The second is when it’s crunch time and that’s the time the line decides to cave in around him and gives up a crucial sack. It’s funny how the media leaves that part out.

People expect Romo to never throw INT’s, be ranked number 1 against the blitz, number 2 in QBR in NFL history, number 1 in the 4th quarter, the GM, head coach, offensive coordinator, defensive coordinator, the kicker, the punter, play offensive line, heal injuries, and play defense. On top of that, people believe Romo should put up Oregon duck numbers every week with a pathetic football team that he has had over the years. I’ve never seen a player get attacked like this before.


Good post man. I don't really care for reading arguments online, but if they are well constructed and written then I really enjoy them . That being said keep on keeping on money, don't get why people are bashing you, especially since you said your not telling people to cap this game, its just your opinion. Dallas is a sleeping giant boys, its only a moment of time until the go off... Giants would be a prime place to start.
 
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Always a tough game against Dallas but i like the Giants by 6 and the under. 
And Claiborne hanging with Dez in practice is one thing but during a real game against Nicks; i don't think so. He's going to be a good one but not in this game.
 
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Will Romo finally step up and lead dallas deep in the playoffs this year?
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Fazool:

Always a tough game against Dallas but i like the Giants by 6 and the under. 
And Claiborne hanging with Dez in practice is one thing but during a real game against Nicks; i don't think so. He's going to be a good one but not in this game.

so your saying nicks is a much tougher guard than dez i would disagree there nicks is jsut physical and he is not going to be in football shape at all i worry about cruz not nicks
 
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i see this cowboys all the way, we beefed up secondary and there injured, yeah our oline is injured but cowboys roll here with addition of murray.

 

how bout them cowboyssssssssssssss.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by budwiser:

Reason being these teams met twice last year, same qbs, same coaches, many of the same players.  It's a divisional matchup, and with the Giants being Super Bowl Champions and having gone on a huge winning streak, you know the point total is just a liiitle too much on the Giants IMO.

Romo is looking forward to this game.  Remember the last game where Romo would have eliminated the Giants with a win at home, would have won the division-but missed the pass?  

Remember Romo has a choke nerve.  So don't take the Boys on the ML IMO.

God Bless the NFL the Greatest TV Sport on Earth.


You don't think Bowling on TV is more exciting??baby
 
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With all those stats, you forgot to mention how playoff wins does he have? How many Superbowls does Dan Marino have? Has Dallas ever been a playoff team in the five years he has been QB? If you say yes, then you’re a fucking dumbass like of the rest of the sheep amateurs. Offensive lines and defense wins championships and Romo has never had either, but still puts up record breaking NFL numbers.

How many game costing bad decisions has he made? About 3 last season, the media highlights those repeatedly leaving out the defense choking, the kicker choking, Dez running the wrong route, austin losing the ball in the lights while he’s hurt, and the line repeatedly caving in around him, but Eli and brady had 4 bad games last season, one more than Romo did and guess what... no one talks about those.

I’ve seen Brady and Eli throw crucial interceptions under pressure and no one talks about them because the interceptions aren’t talked about in a win after the defense bails them out. Eli and Brady take all the credit and the defense was the reason they really won.

The problem is Romo seems to give Dallas a lead late in the fourth repeatedly. Then the defense gives up a long drive with hardly anytime left. Two things constantly happen. One is Romo gets them in scoring range and the kicker hooks it or the kick is blocked. The second is when it’s crunch time and that’s the time the line decides to cave in around him and gives up a crucial sack. It’s funny how the media leaves that part out.

People expect Romo to never throw INT’s, be ranked number 1 against the blitz, number 2 in QBR in NFL history, number 1 in the 4th quarter, the GM, head coach, offensive coordinator, defensive coordinator, the kicker, the punter, play offensive line, heal injuries, and play defense. On top of that, people believe Romo should put up Oregon duck numbers every week with a pathetic football team that he has had over the years. I’ve never seen a player get attacked like this before.


You make great points money, theres just a few things i wanna throw out there....talkin about Marino, yes he did have all the stats, but when people rank top 5 or 10 qb's of all time his name rarely comes up, due to lack of postseason success, similar to romo....

and to say NE's defense bails them out of games is pretty ridiculous, the last couple years their defense has been pretty bad, yet brady finds a way to lead his team down the field and win the game....

and even though u have the stats to back it up, i just dont consider romo a closer or a great end-of-game qb, stats aside, i cant remember a defining moment at the end of a game where romo has taken over and willed his team to victory (like brady, brees and eli do on a consistent basis)

im looking at it from a bettors standpoint, why take the chance that romo is gonna fuck off the game because of one bad decision, which he has shown he is capable of doing at least more than one time(most notably last year against the lions which he obviously made more than one bad decision to cost his team the game)........
 
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Quote Originally Posted by xflrejects:

Biscuit and Money NRH

 

My apologies. I was wrong. I had a different  scenario in mind and my bad. I am usually very careful in researching my shit before I post it but in thi case I didn't being so certain and I was in err.

 

That being said I still like DAL +4 in season opener.




No problem 

The "fade the Champs" trend may have existed 20 years ago, but recently they've been covering their first game of the following season.   

Here are recent results

SB WINNER    1ST GAME NEXT YEAR ATS RESULT

2004 PATS        PUSH
2005 PATS        WIN
2006 PIT        WIN
2007 IND        WIN
2008 NYG        WIN
2009 PIT        LOSS
2010 NOS        WIN
2011 GBY        WIN
2012 NYG        ???

Just saw that Skyace has more info about this in another thread

https://www.covers.com/postingforum/POST01/showmessage.aspx?spt=21&sub=101409913


All that said....I don't like the game too much, leaning to Giants to win by a TD

GLTA


 
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Quote Originally Posted by vegasroy:

going to make a small bet on the g-men.$110 at the caliente casino in tijuana.i made the same bet on 12-31-11.the g-men beat down the boys that nite also.i spent the $100 i won on 2 different smoking hot latina's down in zona norte.plan on doing the same wednesday nite


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Quote Originally Posted by ParlaySucker:



And you'll probably get herpes

 
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line dropping on game down as low as 3 in vegas???
 
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NYG start slowly historically.  Dallas has a good defense and some offensive stars.  Ditto NY.  Lean under to me.
 
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Dallas OL in not good. They haven't played together in all of preseason. Didn't Dallas just trade for an OL? I'm going Giants-4 and under. Especially in NY with possibility of rain.
 
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Giants win by 1 stinking point!

 
 
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Cowboys got this!  MoneySRH couldnt have broken it down any better. Cowboys to the bank.  
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