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Quote Originally Posted by greaterpower:

Tricky week for me to cap.  First week I've had this year where I've failed to like 3 or 4 games.... Looking forward to some insight in this thread.

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Miami -1
Det -2

Bengals just havent figured it out and I am a believer in the Miami running game along with brandon marshall and a serviceable defense.  

Detroit is a fairly good team, and I believe they play better at home.  This Washington team got beat pretty bad by my Rams in St. Louis, so I am a believer they don't play as well on the road.  

I Completely AGREE with your First Statement, that this is a DIFFICULT Week to Handicap te NFL!!! I too, can only pluck a few Diamonds outta this ROUGH Week 8 Field of Games... 

I think you "MIGHT" be onto a TRUE DIAMOND though!!!... I think that I'm REALLY beginning to LOVE this Detroit Game!!!! You're 100% RIGHT about Detroit playing MUCH BETTER @ Home, and now the Skins go on the Road into Detroit... Isn't Matthew Stafford Back this Week too??? If so, this becomes a BIG TIME PLAY for me!!!! Even if Matty-Ice is NOT back, this game looks like the Lions Game to Lose!!!! You've got Matty Ice AND Jahvid Best coming back to their lineup... Plus the BYE-Week to Rest Up and Familiarize everyone with Detroits Offensive System... Stafford already knew it and so did Jahvid, but Best was still "learning it" as a Rookie RB... I REALLY Hope Bests Turf-Toe is a thing of the past, if so... this could be a HUGE Play for me!!!! Plus, 63% of the public is CURRENTLY hitting the Washington Dead-Skins! Thats AWESOME for US!!!! GREAT EYE "greaterpower"!!!! Way to spot a GREAT game to Pick!!!




 Cheers My Friend!!!! 



Lets BEAT-UP the BOOKIE~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!  


 
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SD -3.5 
 
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Bets2Win I know I am a noobie on here but got mad respect for you already, sucks that so many of these coat tail riding panty wastes are giving you hell. But at any rate, I am torn. Obviously by my name I am a huge Titans fan. Diehard Titans fan to be frank. But I also do like the Chargers mainly for the fact I've ridden them for the fantasy football players and they've always treated me good. Rivers and Gates and last year it was Jackson too, now its Malcolm Floyd. Gotta love it. BUT, Gates is still banged up right now and Floyd is declared out already. And my Titans are looking great. Everyone likes to poke fun at their DEF (including you Mr. Bets2Win lol) because they havent faced a potent offense yet, and last week was their biggest offensive threat and they handled it well. Granted Rivers is 10x the QB that Kolb is but I still think the Chargers make too many petty stupid mistakes and TEN always capitalizes on mistakes. CJ2K is definitely looking for a premiere break out game and this one has the potential. Playing in beautiful San Diego weather against the team that knocked them out of the playoffs 3 years ago, there's a lot riding on this game. Also, this is the ONLY franchise that Jeff Fisher hasn't beat out of all the NFL teams. This is the best Titans team we've had in a long time. I was pissed off at the world when Keith Bulluck and Kyle Vandenbosch left, but we've had some key people step up on DEF. Rivers has had some pass protection problems and believe the Titans will be SWARMING after him. The golden rule is to never BET on your favorite team so I think I'm steering clear, but I think you may wanna take TEN as the underdog because this will be a close game but I think TEN could really pull the win off.

Too many times people sleep on my Titans and Bets, you are the man, but you laid 3 Units on SD last week and they bit you in the ass really hard. Don't do it this week!! But I do respect you and your picks and your point of view 100%.

Last-wk, you're 100% Right!!! I got Bit in the ASS REALLY HARD by San Diego... But this is a completely NEW Week, which will have COMPLETELY NEW Results!!! I'm a firm believer that you live and you learn, but just bc I Lost last-wk on SD, doesn't mean Im going to avoid them altogether for the rest of the Season! Infact... Bc of the Fact that they LOST this past Week, makes me MORE LIKELY to play them this Week!!! I Personally, FADE the Prior Week in "almost" every single Bet that I make!!! ...and Remember, they still played MUCH BETTER @ Home and ONLY Lost by 3! Where as if they were on the Road, in Foxboro (NE for those that're idiots!), they would've gotten SCRAPED by 14+!!! They're gonna give Tennessee a VERY GOOD Game @ Home... Im 100% Certain of it!!!!! I REALLY think that SD is gonna Win this Game by 10+ Pts... Tennessee is a "Good" Football Team but NEITHER QB of theirs is "all that"... Kerry Collins is a MESS just waiting to happen... and Vince Young is "efficient" and Wins football games, but hes prone to mistakes and will be forced into errors if he's the starter... IMO, BOTH QBs are gonna be forced to play catch-up and pass the ball to keep pace... NEITHER QB will be able to do this and will turn the ball over A LOT!! Its just my Opinion... Take it for what its worth my friend!!!   



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BTW Guys... Im ENJOYING this Discussion about FOOTBALL!!!  




Let's keep this up Ladies n Gents!!!!!!   

 
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GL with your bets my fren ... looking at your leans, this is what I have to say:

SD -3.5 (BB) ... Chargers are 30th on TurnOver Differential !!! I think they have a very good chance to win, but havent we sayin this since the Rams game??, because turnovers are very hard to cap, this is a no play for me ...
 
Denver +1 ... I Like the Broncos here to defeat SF, but how will the niners respond under QB Troy Smith??? that is the big question here ...
 
Houston +5.5 (my Love Affair for the Texans Continues!!! haha)... Colts are one of my POD's, just never bet against Peyton Manning on a Primetime game, remember Indy destroyed a good NY Giants team at home on Primetime???
 
Oakland -2.5 ... There is a reason for this "low" line after my beloved Raiders destroyed the hated Broncos at Mile High, and the reason is this: Since Tom Cable is Raiders coach (dont count when he was interim coach), he hasnt won two games in a row, so right now with my heart's pain Seattle is the play and one of my POD's, until Oakland show me they can win 2 games in a row ...
 
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Quote Originally Posted by alecboyh:

GL with your bets my fren ... looking at your leans, this is what I have to say:

SD -3.5 (BB) ... Chargers are 30th on TurnOver Differential !!! I think they have a very good chance to win, but havent we sayin this since the Rams game??, because turnovers are very hard to cap, this is a no play for me ...
 
Denver +1 ... I Like the Broncos here to defeat SF, but how will the niners respond under QB Troy Smith??? that is the big question here ...
 
Houston +5.5 (my Love Affair for the Texans Continues!!! haha)... Colts are one of my POD's, just never bet against Peyton Manning on a Primetime game, remember Indy destroyed a good NY Giants team at home on Primetime???
 
Oakland -2.5 ... There is a reason for this "low" line after my beloved Raiders destroyed the hated Broncos at Mile High, and the reason is this: Since Tom Cable is Raiders coach (dont count when he was interim coach), he hasnt won two games in a row, so right now with my heart's pain Seattle is the play and one of my POD's, until Oakland show me they can win 2 games in a row ...


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So far leaning:

MIA +2.5, CAR +3, DET -2.5

MIA/CIN over 43, JAC/DAL over 42.5, DEN/SF under 41.5

I'm not touching SD, i have a hard time going with a team that turns the ball over as often as they do. TEN is 5-2 ATS (3-0 on the road). I'll take my chances with TEN.

 
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Dallas is a -7 favorite. Good.

Jacksonville+230 ML

Upon checking you'll see that Jacksonville is 3-4 while Dallas is 1-5 so far this season.

I can understand Dallas fans are desperate... but how long will people feed their money to the books who keep making Dallas favorites despite their constantly losing each week?

The Jags are 2-2 SU and ATS as dogs this season(0-2 in L-2) while Dallas is 0-4 SU as favorites this season alone. In their L-8 Dallas is just 2-6 as favs.

I'll take the chance that the Jags can get the upset win here.

Both teams have issues but I like the dog in this one.

 
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I am simply amazed at how long the books keep making SF and Dallas fav's despite the 2-11 combined record.

I guess as long as people keep losing they will keep on doing it.

Denver+1 to rebound from that Raiders ass-kicking.

 
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San/D for me..

raiders come back to same old shit..seahawks..

denver cant stop anyone..????? +++++++

buffalo gets 1 more run..

 
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Jacob Tamme replaces Dallas Clarke...Remember the name...
 
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I ain't that good at this handicapping... but I am liking the following games based on a quick glance at the matchups and nothing more:

Liking STL at home (Strong Home team)
SEA, common, OAK had a good week last week. but not that good.
PIT on the road. NO is blowing this year...
 
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bettin to early.
 
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whats up b2w. I NEVER post, mostly just read. I just wanted to say that I don't "tail" or "fade" your picks, but I do enjoy reading your insights. I come here to gather information, and you do just that, provide good solid info.

lovin Detroit this week.

also I'll try SD ONE more time. TEN traveling and SD is just DUE.

thanks for all the insight.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by Emmittrudd:

Jacob Tamme replaces Dallas Clarke...Remember the name...

I know AAALLLLLLL About Tamme! Primarily Due to Fantasy, since I Lost Dallas Clark and had to replace him... I Gave Tamme a VERY Long Look too, Kids not bad at all... but hes NO Dallas Clark!!!  
 
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Quote Originally Posted by rotsoruck:

whats up b2w. I NEVER post, mostly just read. I just wanted to say that I don't "tail" or "fade" your picks, but I do enjoy reading your insights. I come here to gather information, and you do just that, provide good solid info.

lovin Detroit this week.

also I'll try SD ONE more time. TEN traveling and SD is just DUE.

thanks for all the insight.


Thats the way to do it man!!! Just read peoples write-ups but DONT let them make your decisions for you! Just read their stats, read their opinions, and read what they have to say but ultimately... YOU make the Final Decision!!! Good Job Man!!! BOL to You This Wkd!!!!  
 
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Quote Originally Posted by indi_kid19:

bettin to early.

You're 100% Right... But I haven't Bet yet... That's why I specified that these were JUST Leans and a General Discussion about Week 8..... NOTHING's Locked-In YET!!!!   

Injury Reports are out TODAY... So that means there's a VERY Good chance that I could be Posting my Actual Picks Today/Tonight!!!  


Lets Get This   !!!!!!!!!
 
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now this was nice...coffee, football and lots of food for thought....

Thanks everyone for making this thread so legible... what a treat!




 
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B2W:

believe we're missing your full analyses this week.

was not bad for me last wk as i chose to go with your SD, SEA, CAR plus opposite you by taking STL (my take on healthy SJax & underrated STL Def; also stayed away from your Phi over Ten as I was not comfortable). so 3 out of 4.

remember the golden rule: we do not have to play every game !

back to post:

NE barely won with ALL those SD mistakes. Rivers has a habit of bouncing back BIG. And Collins always does good "1st game" back then he reverts to old INTs issues.  SD Def practically held NE to a standstill, less the SD offensive turnover-NE opportunities. And talk about self-killing penalty. how about that last 1 moving them 5 yards back making field goal much longer then missed completely. Momentum of a tie may have given us the W on your strong play.

For this wk, pending Q is how will SD handle runner of Johnson caliber? Your take on this please.

As for Houston vs Indy. Houston almost always play Indy close. With key corner out, A.Johnson will have a field day with Indy trying to stop another 200+yds from Foster.

No comment on Den/SF since the game is in London & who knows what can happen thousands of miles away.

Sea vs Oak:  Normally I would agree with your Oak pick and I do lean toward Oak. BUT a wildcard is M.Lynch and we know how poor Oak defends the rush. Even with the lean, i don't recommend this one.

Thus, I'm on  SD-3.5 ; HOU +5.5 from your initial list.

Because of the lean, a 7pts-teaser (Oak+4.5; Hou+12.5) looks good. Use 7 to get the +4.5 for Oak ! If want to save juice then go w 6pts-tease to have +3.5.

GL everyone.

 
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Hey Bets I just had the chance to read your reply, I fully understand where your coming from, I just HAD to stand up for my team. I like your early leans a lot. Especially Houston and Denver. San Fran hasn't been able to win at home nonetheless in another COUNTRY lol. So Denver at +1 I think is a steal. And Colts without Addai, Collie, and Dallas Clark? Thats gonna hurt him, yes the Colts always have people step up like I'm sure Garcon and Anthony Gonzalez will and perhaps Donald Brown/Mike Hart, but rest assured they are not his starters he's used too. 

I like this fun lil debate man I could go on for days! But yeah don't take it personal, I was just standing up for my team and trying to make a point! SD should be a top their division with ease but they've lost to the Rams, Chiefs, Raiders, and Seahawks. YUCK!
 
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Call me crazy but I think the Cowboys -6.5 is a GREAT bet.

Their season has essentially been declared over, and they now face virtually NO PRESSURE to live up to all their TALENT.

Kitna looked composed and confident while throwing for 2 TDs in relief of Romo; granted the Giants D seemed to be already celebrating their victory. Nobody expects much from Kitna, but I believe he will find early success throwing high percentage short, intermediate routes, to Austin, and Dez, who have shown their ability to rack up the YAC. Add the stability of Witten and the Boys should find success against Jacksonville's 27th ranked passing D.

Steelers +1? I'm surprised more people are not jumping all over this one.

 

 
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Quote Originally Posted by BEG4MERCY:

Dallas is a -7 favorite. Good.

Jacksonville+230 ML

Upon checking you'll see that Jacksonville is 3-4 while Dallas is 1-5 so far this season.

I can understand Dallas fans are desperate... but how long will people feed their money to the books who keep making Dallas favorites despite their constantly losing each week?

The Jags are 2-2 SU and ATS as dogs this season(0-2 in L-2) while Dallas is 0-4 SU as favorites this season alone. In their L-8 Dallas is just 2-6 as favs.

I'll take the chance that the Jags can get the upset win here.

Both teams have issues but I like the dog in this one.

Understand that I hate picking Dallas also but Kitna has never had weapons to throw to in DET. I think the books have this one right. But I'm leaning for Dallas to win by at least 10.

I also love Seattle +2 this is a very fishy line. The play should be Oak but I think this will be a sucka bet.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by bets2win:


I know AAALLLLLLL About Tamme! Primarily Due to Fantasy, since I Lost Dallas Clark and had to replace him... I Gave Tamme a VERY Long Look too, Kids not bad at all... but hes NO Dallas Clark!!!  


LOL yeah we went to the same small High School, just want to give him props.  Great kid I wish him well.  Thanks for all your picks you share and remember even if you have a bad week or two along the way that is expected.  Don't change anything you are doing just because you drop a game or two that comes with it.  Good luck to us. 


 
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st louis is the square play this week. but i will bite. consider the rams for a first half bet and hedge with panthers in the third quarter. my rams have sucked ass in the third quarter under Spags. fwiw
 
 
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