"Fly cross country feeling good about yourselves but your body is actually pretty beat up. Come back to practice a little overconfident, meanwhile the opponent you're preparing for is the most difficult offense you've had to prepare for so far on the season"
First, it's the NFL. You can never, ever, feel good about yourselves. The NFL is a grind and every single game matters. If anybody knows that, Manning & Coughlin do. Second, its the NFL. Your body is beat up no matter where you play or who you play. Third, it's the NFL. You are NEVER overconfident, especially since you are playing a team that beat you twice last year.
Lastly, it's the NFL. There are no "trap games" and no "bad spots" Every single week is a grind, and every game matters. Players and coaches know this. Yes, as the season progresses some games become VERY important. But at this point, ALL games matter, no matter if it's at home vs the Redskins or on the road vs. the 9ers. They all are VERY important.
This game will come down to what every NFL game comes down to; stupid penalties, turnovers, and who can make the least mistakes and biggest plays. Both teams have playmakers on both sides of the ball & both teams will make incredible plays and dumb ones. But. Who is going to turn the ball over at the wrong time & who is going to make that one mistake (or mistakes) that are going to "turn" the game... If I was a betting man; I would bet that a two time super bowl champion quarterback will make the correct "checks" and get his team in the correct play calls, as opposed to a rookie QB going against a two time super bowl champion coach who has one of the best defensive staffs in football.
my 2 cents.
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"Fly cross country feeling good about yourselves but your body is actually pretty beat up. Come back to practice a little overconfident, meanwhile the opponent you're preparing for is the most difficult offense you've had to prepare for so far on the season"
First, it's the NFL. You can never, ever, feel good about yourselves. The NFL is a grind and every single game matters. If anybody knows that, Manning & Coughlin do. Second, its the NFL. Your body is beat up no matter where you play or who you play. Third, it's the NFL. You are NEVER overconfident, especially since you are playing a team that beat you twice last year.
Lastly, it's the NFL. There are no "trap games" and no "bad spots" Every single week is a grind, and every game matters. Players and coaches know this. Yes, as the season progresses some games become VERY important. But at this point, ALL games matter, no matter if it's at home vs the Redskins or on the road vs. the 9ers. They all are VERY important.
This game will come down to what every NFL game comes down to; stupid penalties, turnovers, and who can make the least mistakes and biggest plays. Both teams have playmakers on both sides of the ball & both teams will make incredible plays and dumb ones. But. Who is going to turn the ball over at the wrong time & who is going to make that one mistake (or mistakes) that are going to "turn" the game... If I was a betting man; I would bet that a two time super bowl champion quarterback will make the correct "checks" and get his team in the correct play calls, as opposed to a rookie QB going against a two time super bowl champion coach who has one of the best defensive staffs in football.
Lastly, it's the NFL. There are no "trap games" and no "bad spots" Every single week is a grind, and every game matters. Players and coaches know this. Yes, as the season progresses some games become VERY important. But at this point, ALL games matter, no matter if it's at home vs the Redskins or on the road vs. the 9ers. They all are VERY important.
Those millionaire players knowing ,yes. But actually preparing and doing it week in and week out ? no.
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Quote Originally Posted by rLp:
Lastly, it's the NFL. There are no "trap games" and no "bad spots" Every single week is a grind, and every game matters. Players and coaches know this. Yes, as the season progresses some games become VERY important. But at this point, ALL games matter, no matter if it's at home vs the Redskins or on the road vs. the 9ers. They all are VERY important.
Those millionaire players knowing ,yes. But actually preparing and doing it week in and week out ? no.
"Fly cross country feeling good about yourselves but your body is actually pretty beat up. Come back to practice a little overconfident, meanwhile the opponent you're preparing for is the most difficult offense you've had to prepare for so far on the season"
First, it's the NFL. You can never, ever, feel good about yourselves. The NFL is a grind and every single game matters. If anybody knows that, Manning & Coughlin do. Second, its the NFL. Your body is beat up no matter where you play or who you play. Third, it's the NFL. You are NEVER overconfident, especially since you are playing a team that beat you twice last year.
Lastly, it's the NFL. There are no "trap games" and no "bad spots" Every single week is a grind, and every game matters. Players and coaches know this. Yes, as the season progresses some games become VERY important. But at this point, ALL games matter, no matter if it's at home vs the Redskins or on the road vs. the 9ers. They all are VERY important.
This game will come down to what every NFL game comes down to; stupid penalties, turnovers, and who can make the least mistakes and biggest plays. Both teams have playmakers on both sides of the ball & both teams will make incredible plays and dumb ones. But. Who is going to turn the ball over at the wrong time & who is going to make that one mistake (or mistakes) that are going to "turn" the game... If I was a betting man; I would bet that a two time super bowl champion quarterback will make the correct "checks" and get his team in the correct play calls, as opposed to a rookie QB going against a two time super bowl champion coach who has one of the best defensive staffs in football.
my 2 cents.
Disagree with everything you said. Yes all games matter but doesn't mean teams can give it their 110% effort each and every week. No trap games? No bad spots? What sport are you watching
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Quote Originally Posted by rLp:
"Fly cross country feeling good about yourselves but your body is actually pretty beat up. Come back to practice a little overconfident, meanwhile the opponent you're preparing for is the most difficult offense you've had to prepare for so far on the season"
First, it's the NFL. You can never, ever, feel good about yourselves. The NFL is a grind and every single game matters. If anybody knows that, Manning & Coughlin do. Second, its the NFL. Your body is beat up no matter where you play or who you play. Third, it's the NFL. You are NEVER overconfident, especially since you are playing a team that beat you twice last year.
Lastly, it's the NFL. There are no "trap games" and no "bad spots" Every single week is a grind, and every game matters. Players and coaches know this. Yes, as the season progresses some games become VERY important. But at this point, ALL games matter, no matter if it's at home vs the Redskins or on the road vs. the 9ers. They all are VERY important.
This game will come down to what every NFL game comes down to; stupid penalties, turnovers, and who can make the least mistakes and biggest plays. Both teams have playmakers on both sides of the ball & both teams will make incredible plays and dumb ones. But. Who is going to turn the ball over at the wrong time & who is going to make that one mistake (or mistakes) that are going to "turn" the game... If I was a betting man; I would bet that a two time super bowl champion quarterback will make the correct "checks" and get his team in the correct play calls, as opposed to a rookie QB going against a two time super bowl champion coach who has one of the best defensive staffs in football.
my 2 cents.
Disagree with everything you said. Yes all games matter but doesn't mean teams can give it their 110% effort each and every week. No trap games? No bad spots? What sport are you watching
Chimpo. A small percentage on NFL players are "Millionaires".
LeagueCapper: Give me an example of a team that lost in a "trap game" or "bad spot" and I will give you the same example of a team that won. I read all last week about how the New York Giants were in a "bad spot" v the 9ers last week. Seen how that turned out... I guess my question is; In your words, what exactly is "trap game" or a "bad spot?" I would really like to know what your perception of that is? I just want to make sure that we are on the same page, b/c I do believe teams can be in bad situations; for example the Ravens v the Texans this weekend.. .. due to their injuries last weekend, they couldn't be playing a worst opponent, considering how they match up. If that is what you mean by "bad spot" then I apologize.
You are entitled to your opinion, but I disagree with your effort comment. The NFL is a win or you lose your job business. Period. If you don't play with 100% effort each and every week, you will be fired. End of story. There have been (and are) a very VERY select few players that can get away with "dogging it" ie Randy Moss. But some teams will put up with it b/c of the return they get. Other than that, if you don't show up each and every week, prepared, work hard & show on Sunday that you give 100% effort, you don't play & are out of a job.
I don't want you to twist what I am saying; b/c teams have bad games and teams sometimes get "overmatched" but to say that they don't put in the effort each and every week? I disagree with that. And it definatly doesn't pertain to the New York Giants
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Chimpo. A small percentage on NFL players are "Millionaires".
LeagueCapper: Give me an example of a team that lost in a "trap game" or "bad spot" and I will give you the same example of a team that won. I read all last week about how the New York Giants were in a "bad spot" v the 9ers last week. Seen how that turned out... I guess my question is; In your words, what exactly is "trap game" or a "bad spot?" I would really like to know what your perception of that is? I just want to make sure that we are on the same page, b/c I do believe teams can be in bad situations; for example the Ravens v the Texans this weekend.. .. due to their injuries last weekend, they couldn't be playing a worst opponent, considering how they match up. If that is what you mean by "bad spot" then I apologize.
You are entitled to your opinion, but I disagree with your effort comment. The NFL is a win or you lose your job business. Period. If you don't play with 100% effort each and every week, you will be fired. End of story. There have been (and are) a very VERY select few players that can get away with "dogging it" ie Randy Moss. But some teams will put up with it b/c of the return they get. Other than that, if you don't show up each and every week, prepared, work hard & show on Sunday that you give 100% effort, you don't play & are out of a job.
I don't want you to twist what I am saying; b/c teams have bad games and teams sometimes get "overmatched" but to say that they don't put in the effort each and every week? I disagree with that. And it definatly doesn't pertain to the New York Giants
Chimpo. A small percentage on NFL players are "Millionaires".
LeagueCapper: Give me an example of a team that lost in a "trap game" or "bad spot" and I will give you the same example of a team that won. I read all last week about how the New York Giants were in a "bad spot" v the 9ers last week. Seen how that turned out... I guess my question is; In your words, what exactly is "trap game" or a "bad spot?" I would really like to know what your perception of that is? I just want to make sure that we are on the same page, b/c I do believe teams can be in bad situations; for example the Ravens v the Texans this weekend.. .. due to their injuries last weekend, they couldn't be playing a worst opponent, considering how they match up. If that is what you mean by "bad spot" then I apologize.
You are entitled to your opinion, but I disagree with your effort comment. The NFL is a win or you lose your job business. Period. If you don't play with 100% effort each and every week, you will be fired. End of story. There have been (and are) a very VERY select few players that can get away with "dogging it" ie Randy Moss. But some teams will put up with it b/c of the return they get. Other than that, if you don't show up each and every week, prepared, work hard & show on Sunday that you give 100% effort, you don't play & are out of a job.
I don't want you to twist what I am saying; b/c teams have bad games and teams sometimes get "overmatched" but to say that they don't put in the effort each and every week? I disagree with that. And it definatly doesn't pertain to the New York Giants
Seahawks playing their fifth game in 25 days, traveling to play a road game on 3 day's rest after an emotional 4Q come from behind win against a team who doesn't have to travel and playing at home.
49ers 9-2 ATS and 9-2 SU last 11 at home. Seahawks 4-11 SU on the road last 15.
Your telling me that the seahawks aren't in a bad spot, the 49ers won't play harder after losing by 25 at home, and that this game is entirely based on matchups and turnovers... comical
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Quote Originally Posted by rLp:
Chimpo. A small percentage on NFL players are "Millionaires".
LeagueCapper: Give me an example of a team that lost in a "trap game" or "bad spot" and I will give you the same example of a team that won. I read all last week about how the New York Giants were in a "bad spot" v the 9ers last week. Seen how that turned out... I guess my question is; In your words, what exactly is "trap game" or a "bad spot?" I would really like to know what your perception of that is? I just want to make sure that we are on the same page, b/c I do believe teams can be in bad situations; for example the Ravens v the Texans this weekend.. .. due to their injuries last weekend, they couldn't be playing a worst opponent, considering how they match up. If that is what you mean by "bad spot" then I apologize.
You are entitled to your opinion, but I disagree with your effort comment. The NFL is a win or you lose your job business. Period. If you don't play with 100% effort each and every week, you will be fired. End of story. There have been (and are) a very VERY select few players that can get away with "dogging it" ie Randy Moss. But some teams will put up with it b/c of the return they get. Other than that, if you don't show up each and every week, prepared, work hard & show on Sunday that you give 100% effort, you don't play & are out of a job.
I don't want you to twist what I am saying; b/c teams have bad games and teams sometimes get "overmatched" but to say that they don't put in the effort each and every week? I disagree with that. And it definatly doesn't pertain to the New York Giants
Seahawks playing their fifth game in 25 days, traveling to play a road game on 3 day's rest after an emotional 4Q come from behind win against a team who doesn't have to travel and playing at home.
49ers 9-2 ATS and 9-2 SU last 11 at home. Seahawks 4-11 SU on the road last 15.
Your telling me that the seahawks aren't in a bad spot, the 49ers won't play harder after losing by 25 at home, and that this game is entirely based on matchups and turnovers... comical
rLp Go read Bill Percells book "A finding a way to win " He talks about 1990 NY Giants team and how players were not ready to play some situation/games. Even after he told them about it ,he couldn't stop the team from having let down.
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rLp Go read Bill Percells book "A finding a way to win " He talks about 1990 NY Giants team and how players were not ready to play some situation/games. Even after he told them about it ,he couldn't stop the team from having let down.
Normally I would see this as a letdown week for Giants but slipping up in Division is not a good idea. Going 0-3 in division facing 0-4 following week in Dallas is not a place they want to be. I just think there's too much to keep them motivated next 2 weeks. I can easily see them taking a nap the following week or 2 against either Pgh or Cincy but not now... these division games are too important and that should be the emphasis this week. Gonna be difficult off last week's effort though and they tend to play the underdog role much better so it's definitely not an easy spot....staying way clear myself as I see Giants winning but won't be shocked if it's close off big effort
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Normally I would see this as a letdown week for Giants but slipping up in Division is not a good idea. Going 0-3 in division facing 0-4 following week in Dallas is not a place they want to be. I just think there's too much to keep them motivated next 2 weeks. I can easily see them taking a nap the following week or 2 against either Pgh or Cincy but not now... these division games are too important and that should be the emphasis this week. Gonna be difficult off last week's effort though and they tend to play the underdog role much better so it's definitely not an easy spot....staying way clear myself as I see Giants winning but won't be shocked if it's close off big effort
Yes. I am telling you that the game is about match-ups & turnovers. You can think it is comical all you want, that is fine and that is your opinion, but if you watch every NFL game, a good majority of the games come down to turnovers. Let's take last week for example. Falcons v. Raiders. Raiders driving at the end of the game, game is tied, Raiders closing drive, ready to win the game with a game ending field goal and Palmer throws a pick 6. Tom Brady had 3 interceptions last week v Seattle, two of them in the redzone. Arizona Cardinals threw an interception in overtime to give Buffalo the win. The Jets v Texans, Jets driving ready to close the gap to make the game 14-10 and Sanchez throws a pick that ends up in a Texans FG. Halftime score? 17-7. Lastly, did you happen to catch the Monday Night game? That entire game shifted on Phillip Rivers fumble scoop/score. If they punt the ball on that drive in the middle of the third quarter & make Manning drive the field, do they have time to come back?
I'm not trying to be argumentative and I'm sure you know your shit. But I have been gambling a long time too, and I see what I see on every Sunday. And in the end, the NFL has more parody than ever before and taking care of the football is one of the most important factors in winning/losing a football game. If Tom Brady doesn't throw two redzone interceptions, they will that game going away.. Which brings me full circle as to why I made the comment about the Giants/Redskins game. Last year, at home, the Giants turned the ball over three times in the loss to the Redskins.
In my opinion (and my opinion only) you look for the best matchups in the NFL and then hope that the team you feel has the best match up takes care of the football. As for the Giants/Redskins game, the match up favors the Giants. The Giants have the third best passing offense in the league, the Redskins have the worst pass defense in the league. You can pick out other game stats, but for me, in this game, that is the one I personally focus on b/c the Giants will always put the ball in Eli's hands. And in knowing that, I want to know who or how the opponent is going to fair against him. And that goes for every game I bet on. I look as to what a specific team does well, and what the other team doesn't do well and use that as information. That said, you can't research turnovers, which have always and will always kill your bet.
As for the "Bad Spot" comment, you are misunderstanding what I am saying. The Seahawks ARE in a bad spot (and/or situation). We are not comparing apples to apples in regards to that. The Ravens too were in a bad spot a couple weeks back when they had to play 4 games in 17 days. That has to be exhausting to an NFL team. That is not what I am referring too. I said there are no such thing as "trap games' or "bad spots" meaning, when I hear people say "this is a look-a-head game". That's all I was saying.. Personally I don't believe in that garbage. Never have, never will... and again, the reason I say that is b/c people focus on "trap games" or "bad spots" b/c it's the game they are gambling on. They don't see 5 other teams that same week that are in the same situation b/c they have no interest in gambling on those games because they don't know the teams or like the line vegas put out.
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Chimpo.
Yes. I am telling you that the game is about match-ups & turnovers. You can think it is comical all you want, that is fine and that is your opinion, but if you watch every NFL game, a good majority of the games come down to turnovers. Let's take last week for example. Falcons v. Raiders. Raiders driving at the end of the game, game is tied, Raiders closing drive, ready to win the game with a game ending field goal and Palmer throws a pick 6. Tom Brady had 3 interceptions last week v Seattle, two of them in the redzone. Arizona Cardinals threw an interception in overtime to give Buffalo the win. The Jets v Texans, Jets driving ready to close the gap to make the game 14-10 and Sanchez throws a pick that ends up in a Texans FG. Halftime score? 17-7. Lastly, did you happen to catch the Monday Night game? That entire game shifted on Phillip Rivers fumble scoop/score. If they punt the ball on that drive in the middle of the third quarter & make Manning drive the field, do they have time to come back?
I'm not trying to be argumentative and I'm sure you know your shit. But I have been gambling a long time too, and I see what I see on every Sunday. And in the end, the NFL has more parody than ever before and taking care of the football is one of the most important factors in winning/losing a football game. If Tom Brady doesn't throw two redzone interceptions, they will that game going away.. Which brings me full circle as to why I made the comment about the Giants/Redskins game. Last year, at home, the Giants turned the ball over three times in the loss to the Redskins.
In my opinion (and my opinion only) you look for the best matchups in the NFL and then hope that the team you feel has the best match up takes care of the football. As for the Giants/Redskins game, the match up favors the Giants. The Giants have the third best passing offense in the league, the Redskins have the worst pass defense in the league. You can pick out other game stats, but for me, in this game, that is the one I personally focus on b/c the Giants will always put the ball in Eli's hands. And in knowing that, I want to know who or how the opponent is going to fair against him. And that goes for every game I bet on. I look as to what a specific team does well, and what the other team doesn't do well and use that as information. That said, you can't research turnovers, which have always and will always kill your bet.
As for the "Bad Spot" comment, you are misunderstanding what I am saying. The Seahawks ARE in a bad spot (and/or situation). We are not comparing apples to apples in regards to that. The Ravens too were in a bad spot a couple weeks back when they had to play 4 games in 17 days. That has to be exhausting to an NFL team. That is not what I am referring too. I said there are no such thing as "trap games' or "bad spots" meaning, when I hear people say "this is a look-a-head game". That's all I was saying.. Personally I don't believe in that garbage. Never have, never will... and again, the reason I say that is b/c people focus on "trap games" or "bad spots" b/c it's the game they are gambling on. They don't see 5 other teams that same week that are in the same situation b/c they have no interest in gambling on those games because they don't know the teams or like the line vegas put out.
Chimpo. A small percentage on NFL players are "Millionaires".
LeagueCapper: Give me an example of a team that lost in a "trap game" or "bad spot" and I will give you the same example of a team that won. I read all last week about how the New York Giants were in a "bad spot" v the 9ers last week. Seen how that turned out... I guess my question is; In your words, what exactly is "trap game" or a "bad spot?" I would really like to know what your perception of that is? I just want to make sure that we are on the same page, b/c I do believe teams can be in bad situations; for example the Ravens v the Texans this weekend.. .. due to their injuries last weekend, they couldn't be playing a worst opponent, considering how they match up. If that is what you mean by "bad spot" then I apologize.
You are entitled to your opinion, but I disagree with your effort comment. The NFL is a win or you lose your job business. Period. If you don't play with 100% effort each and every week, you will be fired. End of story. There have been (and are) a very VERY select few players that can get away with "dogging it" ie Randy Moss. But some teams will put up with it b/c of the return they get. Other than that, if you don't show up each and every week, prepared, work hard & show on Sunday that you give 100% effort, you don't play & are out of a job.
I don't want you to twist what I am saying; b/c teams have bad games and teams sometimes get "overmatched" but to say that they don't put in the effort each and every week? I disagree with that. And it definatly doesn't pertain to the New York Giants
I totally disagree with everything you've said in this thread.
Teams certainly get complacent in some games, that is a huge haddicapping tool.
One such game was Texans and Jets a couple of weeks ago whenm damn near every expert was calling for a blow-out win by Texans. While the Texans with-out questuion were feeling fat and sassy about their undefeated record and came into that game complacent.
Both Bill Parcels and Jimmy Johnson talked quite a bit about players letting-up after big wins and how they tried to motivate players to not get complacent.
That is a huge haddicapping tool to be used by the player.
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Quote Originally Posted by rLp:
Chimpo. A small percentage on NFL players are "Millionaires".
LeagueCapper: Give me an example of a team that lost in a "trap game" or "bad spot" and I will give you the same example of a team that won. I read all last week about how the New York Giants were in a "bad spot" v the 9ers last week. Seen how that turned out... I guess my question is; In your words, what exactly is "trap game" or a "bad spot?" I would really like to know what your perception of that is? I just want to make sure that we are on the same page, b/c I do believe teams can be in bad situations; for example the Ravens v the Texans this weekend.. .. due to their injuries last weekend, they couldn't be playing a worst opponent, considering how they match up. If that is what you mean by "bad spot" then I apologize.
You are entitled to your opinion, but I disagree with your effort comment. The NFL is a win or you lose your job business. Period. If you don't play with 100% effort each and every week, you will be fired. End of story. There have been (and are) a very VERY select few players that can get away with "dogging it" ie Randy Moss. But some teams will put up with it b/c of the return they get. Other than that, if you don't show up each and every week, prepared, work hard & show on Sunday that you give 100% effort, you don't play & are out of a job.
I don't want you to twist what I am saying; b/c teams have bad games and teams sometimes get "overmatched" but to say that they don't put in the effort each and every week? I disagree with that. And it definatly doesn't pertain to the New York Giants
I totally disagree with everything you've said in this thread.
Teams certainly get complacent in some games, that is a huge haddicapping tool.
One such game was Texans and Jets a couple of weeks ago whenm damn near every expert was calling for a blow-out win by Texans. While the Texans with-out questuion were feeling fat and sassy about their undefeated record and came into that game complacent.
Both Bill Parcels and Jimmy Johnson talked quite a bit about players letting-up after big wins and how they tried to motivate players to not get complacent.
That is a huge haddicapping tool to be used by the player.
"Giants play the best home game of the year, the week after basically shutting out a very physical 49ers team on the road, having to travel literally across the country, with another divisional game on deck? Sounds like a perfect time to play their best home game of the year "
LeagueCapper - You don't feel Giant is in the upper hand this week?
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"Giants play the best home game of the year, the week after basically shutting out a very physical 49ers team on the road, having to travel literally across the country, with another divisional game on deck? Sounds like a perfect time to play their best home game of the year "
LeagueCapper - You don't feel Giant is in the upper hand this week?
This game is basically RG3 + 7 . If he goes down I'd rather be holding a Giants ticket myself kinda like the Atlanta game.. All skins tickets were toast once he went down
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This game is basically RG3 + 7 . If he goes down I'd rather be holding a Giants ticket myself kinda like the Atlanta game.. All skins tickets were toast once he went down
"Giants play the best home game of the year, the week after basically shutting out a very physical 49ers team on the road, having to travel literally across the country, with another divisional game on deck? Sounds like a perfect time to play their best home game of the year "
LeagueCapper - You don't feel Giant is in the upper hand this week?
Not at all
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Quote Originally Posted by Cookiess:
"Giants play the best home game of the year, the week after basically shutting out a very physical 49ers team on the road, having to travel literally across the country, with another divisional game on deck? Sounds like a perfect time to play their best home game of the year "
LeagueCapper - You don't feel Giant is in the upper hand this week?
how does this game remind u of seattle last season? that statement makes no sense. We are 0-2 in the division right now and cant afford a loss here. Skins are ranked 32nd against the pass and we are one of the best passing teams in the league. i see eli going for 300 plus here and bradshaw continuing last 2 weeks roll and going for another 100 again. Giants oline buries skins d line and giants win 31-17
wrong again, you seem to make this a yearly occurrence
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Quote Originally Posted by cambyspree99:
Metalbill
how does this game remind u of seattle last season? that statement makes no sense. We are 0-2 in the division right now and cant afford a loss here. Skins are ranked 32nd against the pass and we are one of the best passing teams in the league. i see eli going for 300 plus here and bradshaw continuing last 2 weeks roll and going for another 100 again. Giants oline buries skins d line and giants win 31-17
wrong again, you seem to make this a yearly occurrence
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