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    Highest QB Rating in NFL History: Tony Romo?

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    Posted: Dec. 27, 2011 - 11:40 PM ET #1

    Yeah, I couldn’t believe it either.

    Of all the QBs in NFL history with at least 5 seasons as a starter no one has a higher QB rating than Tony Romo.

    I knew he was better than his haters would have us think, but I wouldn’t even have thought he’d be in the top 10.

    Playoff wins or not, clutch or not, rings or not that’s still pretty impressive for a guy that a lot of people seem to think sucks. 

    Knowing this stat I don’t think any objective person can pen Dallas’s lack of success getting to and playing in the postseason all on him anymore.

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    Yeah, I couldn’t believe it either.

    Of all the QBs in NFL history with at least 5 seasons as a starter no one has a higher QB rating than Tony Romo.

    I knew he was better than his haters would have us think, but I wouldn’t even have thought he’d be in the top 10.

    Playoff wins or not, clutch or not, rings or not that’s still pretty impressive for a guy that a lot of people seem to think sucks. 

    Knowing this stat I don’t think any objective person can pen Dallas’s lack of success getting to and playing in the postseason all on him anymore.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 27, 2011 - 11:44 PM ET #2

    Or this just proves how useless of a stat that QB rating is.  I bet hit total QPR is dreadful...
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    Or this just proves how useless of a stat that QB rating is.  I bet hit total QPR is dreadful...
     
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    Posted: Dec. 27, 2011 - 11:46 PM ET #3

    Rodgers is #1, Romo is 2.  But you are right, that is impressive, and I don't think many people realize that he is that high on the list.

    That does say something too.  The fact is, he's a very good QB and he could of course shake the "choker" label someday and get a ring.

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    Rodgers is #1, Romo is 2.  But you are right, that is impressive, and I don't think many people realize that he is that high on the list.

    That does say something too.  The fact is, he's a very good QB and he could of course shake the "choker" label someday and get a ring.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 27, 2011 - 11:47 PM ET #4

    Dallas is a winner this wk Boys!
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    Posted: Dec. 27, 2011 - 11:50 PM ET #5

    I think QB rating is a very useful tool to measure efficiency, but it certainly doesn't end all conversations on who the better QB is.  On the other hand, if one has a rating of 97 and the other has a rating of 80, it's safe to say that the 97 QB had a better year, and was the better QB that year.

    https://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/pass_rating_career.htm

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    I think QB rating is a very useful tool to measure efficiency, but it certainly doesn't end all conversations on who the better QB is.  On the other hand, if one has a rating of 97 and the other has a rating of 80, it's safe to say that the 97 QB had a better year, and was the better QB that year.

    https://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/pass_rating_career.htm

     
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    Posted: Dec. 27, 2011 - 11:55 PM ET #6

    his numbers are impressive, but can he find a way to win the 'big' game instead of finding a way to lose it? that's the question.
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    his numbers are impressive, but can he find a way to win the 'big' game instead of finding a way to lose it? that's the question.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 28, 2011 - 12:09 AM ET #7

    Something else I was surprised at were Romo’s December numbers.

    A lot of people seem to think that Romo sucks in the month of December. 

    Since 2009 in the month of December:

    Completion percentage = 69%

    Pass yards per game = 301

    TD-INT ratio = 15-1

    Passer rating = 110.9

    That doesn’t seem very sucky to me.

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    Something else I was surprised at were Romo’s December numbers.

    A lot of people seem to think that Romo sucks in the month of December. 

    Since 2009 in the month of December:

    Completion percentage = 69%

    Pass yards per game = 301

    TD-INT ratio = 15-1

    Passer rating = 110.9

    That doesn’t seem very sucky to me.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 28, 2011 - 1:27 AM ET #8

    Its not that he's a choke artist or has no heart, his heart is just not allways in the game .Ray Charles in a darkroom could tell you that homeboy just wants to cash his game checks and go bang some celeb pie.
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    Its not that he's a choke artist or has no heart, his heart is just not allways in the game .Ray Charles in a darkroom could tell you that homeboy just wants to cash his game checks and go bang some celeb pie.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 28, 2011 - 3:35 AM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by AnthonyStarks:

    Its not that he's a choke artist or has no heart, his heart is just not allways in the game .Ray Charles in a darkroom could tell you that homeboy just wants to cash his game checks and go bang some celeb pie.

    Then why did he play in the 2nd game of the season with a broken rib and a punctured lung to lead his team to a comeback victory?

    No objective person would have thought any less of him if he sat the rest of the game out.  Hell, the dog killer was out about a month with a similar injury, IIRC.

    People can say Romo is a choke artist, but anyone who thinks all he cares about is money is ignorant.  A person that only cared about money wouldn’t have gone back in that game.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnthonyStarks:

    Its not that he's a choke artist or has no heart, his heart is just not allways in the game .Ray Charles in a darkroom could tell you that homeboy just wants to cash his game checks and go bang some celeb pie.

    Then why did he play in the 2nd game of the season with a broken rib and a punctured lung to lead his team to a comeback victory?

    No objective person would have thought any less of him if he sat the rest of the game out.  Hell, the dog killer was out about a month with a similar injury, IIRC.

    People can say Romo is a choke artist, but anyone who thinks all he cares about is money is ignorant.  A person that only cared about money wouldn’t have gone back in that game.

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 28, 2011 - 10:55 AM ET #10

    It still takes a whole team to win and this Dallas coach has cost them a few games also!!
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    It still takes a whole team to win and this Dallas coach has cost them a few games also!!
     
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    Posted: Dec. 28, 2011 - 4:33 PM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by StraightShooter:

    Then why did he play in the 2nd game of the season with a broken rib and a punctured lung to lead his team to a comeback victory?

    No objective person would have thought any less of him if he sat the rest of the game out.  Hell, the dog killer was out about a month with a similar injury, IIRC.

    People can say Romo is a choke artist, but anyone who thinks all he cares about is money is ignorant.  A person that only cared about money wouldn’t have gone back in that game.

     


    dont think u really understood me. Maybe you do have a point about that game ill give you that. Anyway though he maybe lazy or whatev but he knows all eyes are on him at this point
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    Quote Originally Posted by StraightShooter:

    Then why did he play in the 2nd game of the season with a broken rib and a punctured lung to lead his team to a comeback victory?

    No objective person would have thought any less of him if he sat the rest of the game out.  Hell, the dog killer was out about a month with a similar injury, IIRC.

    People can say Romo is a choke artist, but anyone who thinks all he cares about is money is ignorant.  A person that only cared about money wouldn’t have gone back in that game.

     


    dont think u really understood me. Maybe you do have a point about that game ill give you that. Anyway though he maybe lazy or whatev but he knows all eyes are on him at this point
     
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    Posted: Dec. 28, 2011 - 5:13 PM ET #12

    Thats why that stat is utter shit
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    Posted: Dec. 28, 2011 - 7:28 PM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by AnthonyStarks:


    dont think u really understood me. Maybe you do have a point about that game ill give you that. Anyway though he maybe lazy or whatev but he knows all eyes are on him at this point

    What’s not to understand? You think Romo only cares about money (even though he went back into a game with a broken rib and a punctured lung) and “banging some celeb pie” (even though he was recently married).

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    dont think u really understood me. Maybe you do have a point about that game ill give you that. Anyway though he maybe lazy or whatev but he knows all eyes are on him at this point

    What’s not to understand? You think Romo only cares about money (even though he went back into a game with a broken rib and a punctured lung) and “banging some celeb pie” (even though he was recently married).

     
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    Posted: Dec. 28, 2011 - 7:29 PM ET #14

    Meaningless stat glorified by ESPN drones. 
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    The coaching staff, the defense, and the offensive line is what is keeping Romo from being called elite. Doug Free who is a good lineman but was exposed against the Vikings in a playoff loss. Jared Allan embarrassed the hell out of him. Kyle Kosier who is exposed against bull rushes. Phil Costa was third string but since Andre Gurode was fat, out of shape, slow, and wanted big money, he was cut and Costa was promoted to starter. Leonard Davis became to slow against fast pass rushes, and was to slow to catch up on the screen. Davis ranks as one of the most penalized players in the nfl, he was cut because of declining play and salary cap issues. Mark Colombo was embarrassed in the playoff game against the Vikings, and then he was cut. Montrae Holland has only started 14 games with the cowboys. Tyron Smith is a rookie phenom, Bill Nagy is a rookie who is on IR, Kevin Kowalski is a rookie undrafted free agent who has zero starts and now Derrick Dockery who was just signed, has a problem with penalties and has failed to meet expectations since entering the league. Although he is the 2nd ranked QB in NFL history, his offensive line chokes under pressure. People are quick to label Romo a choker but fail to mention his choking o-line. The choking defense and the choking offensive line are the reasons I believe dallas will lose Sunday to the giants. The defense and offensive line always choke in pressure situations. People need to study the game before they speak. Notice drew brees took his record breaking picture with his offensive line.
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    The coaching staff, the defense, and the offensive line is what is keeping Romo from being called elite. Doug Free who is a good lineman but was exposed against the Vikings in a playoff loss. Jared Allan embarrassed the hell out of him. Kyle Kosier who is exposed against bull rushes. Phil Costa was third string but since Andre Gurode was fat, out of shape, slow, and wanted big money, he was cut and Costa was promoted to starter. Leonard Davis became to slow against fast pass rushes, and was to slow to catch up on the screen. Davis ranks as one of the most penalized players in the nfl, he was cut because of declining play and salary cap issues. Mark Colombo was embarrassed in the playoff game against the Vikings, and then he was cut. Montrae Holland has only started 14 games with the cowboys. Tyron Smith is a rookie phenom, Bill Nagy is a rookie who is on IR, Kevin Kowalski is a rookie undrafted free agent who has zero starts and now Derrick Dockery who was just signed, has a problem with penalties and has failed to meet expectations since entering the league. Although he is the 2nd ranked QB in NFL history, his offensive line chokes under pressure. People are quick to label Romo a choker but fail to mention his choking o-line. The choking defense and the choking offensive line are the reasons I believe dallas will lose Sunday to the giants. The defense and offensive line always choke in pressure situations. People need to study the game before they speak. Notice drew brees took his record breaking picture with his offensive line.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteelCash:

    Rodgers is #1, Romo is 2.  But you are right, that is impressive, and I don't think many people realize that he is that high on the list.

    That does say something too.  The fact is, he's a very good QB and he could of course shake the "choker" label someday and get a ring.

    "Of all the QBs in NFL history with at least 5 seasons as a starter no one has a higher QB rating than Tony Romo."

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteelCash:

    Rodgers is #1, Romo is 2.  But you are right, that is impressive, and I don't think many people realize that he is that high on the list.

    That does say something too.  The fact is, he's a very good QB and he could of course shake the "choker" label someday and get a ring.

    "Of all the QBs in NFL history with at least 5 seasons as a starter no one has a higher QB rating than Tony Romo."

     
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    Posted: Dec. 28, 2011 - 11:09 PM ET #17

    Problem with Dallas is their defense.

    That and Romo not playing.


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    That and Romo not playing.


     
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    Posted: Dec. 29, 2011 - 12:22 AM ET #18

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    You are exactly right- Romo isn't the problem- i have been arguing with people for years- his offensive line is terrible and this year the defensive coordinator is terrible- i don't know what he has to do to get people to believe in him but i am tired of hearing he sucks

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    You are exactly right- Romo isn't the problem- i have been arguing with people for years- his offensive line is terrible and this year the defensive coordinator is terrible- i don't know what he has to do to get people to believe in him but i am tired of hearing he sucks

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by blowoutgm:

    straightshooter-

    You are exactly right- Romo isn't the problem- i have been arguing with people for years- his offensive line is terrible and this year the defensive coordinator is terrible- i don't know what he has to do to get people to believe in him but i am tired of hearing he sucks

    What cracks me up the most is the Cowboy fans that think they should cut Romo.  The Cowboys could cut Romo and the chances of them finding a better QB in the next decade are slim to nil.

    There are at least a dozen things inhibiting the Cowboy’s playoff success more than Romo, but because he is the QB and the average fan is fairly ignorant he continues to get the blame.

     

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    You are exactly right- Romo isn't the problem- i have been arguing with people for years- his offensive line is terrible and this year the defensive coordinator is terrible- i don't know what he has to do to get people to believe in him but i am tired of hearing he sucks

    What cracks me up the most is the Cowboy fans that think they should cut Romo.  The Cowboys could cut Romo and the chances of them finding a better QB in the next decade are slim to nil.

    There are at least a dozen things inhibiting the Cowboy’s playoff success more than Romo, but because he is the QB and the average fan is fairly ignorant he continues to get the blame.

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 30, 2011 - 8:07 AM ET #20

    Quote Originally Posted by QMICH:

    #2 QB RATING + GUTLESS TEAM = LOSERS

    I would add “an egomaniacal owner with a God complex” to that equation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by QMICH:

    #2 QB RATING + GUTLESS TEAM = LOSERS

    I would add “an egomaniacal owner with a God complex” to that equation.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 30, 2011 - 11:23 PM ET #21

    For the guys saying that passer rating is a bullshit stat, here are the top 10 all time:

    1.     Aaron Rodgers

    2.     Tony Romo

    3.     Steve Young

    4.     Tom Brady

    5.     Philip Rivers

    6.     Peyton Manning

    7.     Kurt Warner

    8.     Drew Brees

    9.     Joe Montana

    10.  Ben Roethlisberger

    Not very many scrubs on that list.

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    For the guys saying that passer rating is a bullshit stat, here are the top 10 all time:

    1.     Aaron Rodgers

    2.     Tony Romo

    3.     Steve Young

    4.     Tom Brady

    5.     Philip Rivers

    6.     Peyton Manning

    7.     Kurt Warner

    8.     Drew Brees

    9.     Joe Montana

    10.  Ben Roethlisberger

    Not very many scrubs on that list.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 30, 2011 - 11:43 PM ET #22

    Whats his "meaningful game" QBR ? Playoffs and top notch teams during the regugular season? I'm assuming that drops off like a rock.....
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    Whats his "meaningful game" QBR ? Playoffs and top notch teams during the regugular season? I'm assuming that drops off like a rock.....
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slovak:

    it's crazy to think about that being true because it seems that I can remember everyone of his costly fuck-ups.

    "Costly fuck-ups" is not a category when determining the QB rating although it should be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slovak:

    it's crazy to think about that being true because it seems that I can remember everyone of his costly fuck-ups.

    "Costly fuck-ups" is not a category when determining the QB rating although it should be.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by StraightShooter:

    What cracks me up the most is the Cowboy fans that think they should cut Romo.  The Cowboys could cut Romo and the chances of them finding a better QB in the next decade are slim to nil.

    There are at least a dozen things inhibiting the Cowboy’s playoff success more than Romo, but because he is the QB and the average fan is fairly ignorant he continues to get the blame.

     

     

    Not true at all...

    A small segment of Cowboy fans maybe but not MOST by any means...

    This team has a lot more problems than just Romo performing in the clutch.

    It's certainly less than the number of fans who want to find a replacement for Sanchez and that is not even the majority.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StraightShooter:

    What cracks me up the most is the Cowboy fans that think they should cut Romo.  The Cowboys could cut Romo and the chances of them finding a better QB in the next decade are slim to nil.

    There are at least a dozen things inhibiting the Cowboy’s playoff success more than Romo, but because he is the QB and the average fan is fairly ignorant he continues to get the blame.

     

     

    Not true at all...

    A small segment of Cowboy fans maybe but not MOST by any means...

    This team has a lot more problems than just Romo performing in the clutch.

    It's certainly less than the number of fans who want to find a replacement for Sanchez and that is not even the majority.
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by StraightShooter:

    For the guys saying that passer rating is a bullshit stat, here are the top 10 all time:

    1.     Aaron Rodgers

    2.     Tony Romo

    3.     Steve Young

    4.     Tom Brady

    5.     Philip Rivers

    6.     Peyton Manning

    7.     Kurt Warner

    8.     Drew Brees

    9.     Joe Montana

    10.  Ben Roethlisberger

    Not very many scrubs on that list.


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    Quote Originally Posted by StraightShooter:

    For the guys saying that passer rating is a bullshit stat, here are the top 10 all time:

    1.     Aaron Rodgers

    2.     Tony Romo

    3.     Steve Young

    4.     Tom Brady

    5.     Philip Rivers

    6.     Peyton Manning

    7.     Kurt Warner

    8.     Drew Brees

    9.     Joe Montana

    10.  Ben Roethlisberger

    Not very many scrubs on that list.


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