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    Hey Guys...Tim Tebow Still Sucks

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    Posted: Jan. 4, 2012 - 8:05 PM ET #2251

    Quote Originally Posted by StraightShooter:

    Wow, sparky said Tebow had a good start.


    If you go back in this thread on the day that this game was played...I said that Tebow had his best game. I did say that the secondary of the Vikings were special teamers thrown in there because they were crippled...but he did play well. He actually won a shootout (but...the defense had a TD and an interception on the final drive to set up a FG). So aside from the bad defensive performance...they made up for it by making a number of big plays (even without Von Miller).
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    Quote Originally Posted by StraightShooter:

    Wow, sparky said Tebow had a good start.


    If you go back in this thread on the day that this game was played...I said that Tebow had his best game. I did say that the secondary of the Vikings were special teamers thrown in there because they were crippled...but he did play well. He actually won a shootout (but...the defense had a TD and an interception on the final drive to set up a FG). So aside from the bad defensive performance...they made up for it by making a number of big plays (even without Von Miller).
     
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    Posted: Jan. 4, 2012 - 8:34 PM ET #2252

    Quote Originally Posted by StraightShooter:

    You know you looked it up just positive it was wrong.

    I did look it up.  I don't have his stats memorized, and I didn't think you were wrong.  I have no reason to think you a liar.  I just dont understand how an intelligent football fan such as yourself can look at the Tebow games and not see what is going on.  He's not good, plain and simple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StraightShooter:

    You know you looked it up just positive it was wrong.

    I did look it up.  I don't have his stats memorized, and I didn't think you were wrong.  I have no reason to think you a liar.  I just dont understand how an intelligent football fan such as yourself can look at the Tebow games and not see what is going on.  He's not good, plain and simple.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 4, 2012 - 8:34 PM ET #2253

    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky10191:


    If you go back in this thread on the day that this game was played...I said that Tebow had his best game. I did say that the secondary of the Vikings were special teamers thrown in there because they were crippled...but he did play well. He actually won a shootout (but...the defense had a TD and an interception on the final drive to set up a FG). So aside from the bad defensive performance...they made up for it by making a number of big plays (even without Von Miller).

    I’ll take you at your word that you said that because I’m sure as hell not looking it up.

    However, I don’t think a defensive TD and a late INT negates giving up 32 points and about 500 yards of offense to a team like Minnesota.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky10191:


    If you go back in this thread on the day that this game was played...I said that Tebow had his best game. I did say that the secondary of the Vikings were special teamers thrown in there because they were crippled...but he did play well. He actually won a shootout (but...the defense had a TD and an interception on the final drive to set up a FG). So aside from the bad defensive performance...they made up for it by making a number of big plays (even without Von Miller).

    I’ll take you at your word that you said that because I’m sure as hell not looking it up.

    However, I don’t think a defensive TD and a late INT negates giving up 32 points and about 500 yards of offense to a team like Minnesota.

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 4, 2012 - 8:40 PM ET #2254

    Quote Originally Posted by TA63:

    I did look it up.  I don't have his stats memorized, and I didn't think you were wrong.  I have no reason to think you a liar.  I just dont understand how an intelligent football fan such as yourself can look at the Tebow games and not see what is going on.  He's not good, plain and simple.

    By all means, feel free to point out where I said he was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TA63:

    I did look it up.  I don't have his stats memorized, and I didn't think you were wrong.  I have no reason to think you a liar.  I just dont understand how an intelligent football fan such as yourself can look at the Tebow games and not see what is going on.  He's not good, plain and simple.

    By all means, feel free to point out where I said he was.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 4, 2012 - 9:28 PM ET #2255

    If he loses this weekend his career record will be 8-8 counting one as a playoff game. Can we still say ``All he does is wins``??
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    If he loses this weekend his career record will be 8-8 counting one as a playoff game. Can we still say ``All he does is wins``??
     
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    Posted: Jan. 4, 2012 - 9:56 PM ET #2256

    Quote Originally Posted by Timdog09:

    If he loses this weekend his career record will be 8-8 counting one as a playoff game. Can we still say ``All he does is wins``??

    So Tebow has an 8-6 record on a team that’s 4-14 without him. 

    I’m sure it’s all just a huge coincidence though since he sucks so damn much and contributes nothing to the team.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timdog09:

    If he loses this weekend his career record will be 8-8 counting one as a playoff game. Can we still say ``All he does is wins``??

    So Tebow has an 8-6 record on a team that’s 4-14 without him. 

    I’m sure it’s all just a huge coincidence though since he sucks so damn much and contributes nothing to the team.

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 4, 2012 - 11:25 PM ET #2257

    Quote Originally Posted by StraightShooter:

    Out of Rodgers, Brady, Brees, and Tebow which one do you think had the highest single game passer rating this season?

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Answer: Tim Tebow. 

    Try wrapping your head around that one.

     



    I willl go out on a limb and take those 3 over him any day ,any time ,any place
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    Quote Originally Posted by StraightShooter:

    Out of Rodgers, Brady, Brees, and Tebow which one do you think had the highest single game passer rating this season?

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Answer: Tim Tebow. 

    Try wrapping your head around that one.

     



    I willl go out on a limb and take those 3 over him any day ,any time ,any place
     
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    Posted: Jan. 4, 2012 - 11:34 PM ET #2258

    Quote Originally Posted by MJ2345:



    I willl go out on a limb and take those 3 over him any day ,any time ,any place

    Well, no shit.   Anyone would.  I just thought it was funny because no one would have expected a “fullback playing QB” to have a higher passer rating than the top 3 QBs have had in any game all season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MJ2345:



    I willl go out on a limb and take those 3 over him any day ,any time ,any place

    Well, no shit.   Anyone would.  I just thought it was funny because no one would have expected a “fullback playing QB” to have a higher passer rating than the top 3 QBs have had in any game all season.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 5, 2012 - 3:05 AM ET #2259

    Last time i checked he has never played fullback at any level of football. It is not like Florida switched him to Qb his sophmore or freshman year.
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    Last time i checked he has never played fullback at any level of football. It is not like Florida switched him to Qb his sophmore or freshman year.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 5, 2012 - 12:29 PM ET #2260

    Sparky you are wrong about tim tebow. He will lead denver over pitt this week. He will throw for 250+ yards. The man comes thru in big games. U just a hater
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    Sparky you are wrong about tim tebow. He will lead denver over pitt this week. He will throw for 250+ yards. The man comes thru in big games. U just a hater
     
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    Posted: Jan. 5, 2012 - 12:30 PM ET #2261

    and the giants gonna get wrecked this week too 
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    and the giants gonna get wrecked this week too 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 5, 2012 - 12:50 PM ET #2262

    Quote Originally Posted by Timdog09:

    Last time i checked he has never played fullback at any level of football. It is not like Florida switched him to Qb his sophmore or freshman year.

    It’s not meant to be taken literally.  A “fullback playing QB” or a “runningback playing QB” are just terms Tebow haters use to describe him.

    It was also used by Brian Urlacher to describe Tebow right after he went 15-20 for 163 yards in the 4th quarter against the Bears defense during the Broncos comeback win.  

    When asked about it Tebow just smiled and said “coming from a really good player that means a lot.”

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timdog09:

    Last time i checked he has never played fullback at any level of football. It is not like Florida switched him to Qb his sophmore or freshman year.

    It’s not meant to be taken literally.  A “fullback playing QB” or a “runningback playing QB” are just terms Tebow haters use to describe him.

    It was also used by Brian Urlacher to describe Tebow right after he went 15-20 for 163 yards in the 4th quarter against the Bears defense during the Broncos comeback win.  

    When asked about it Tebow just smiled and said “coming from a really good player that means a lot.”

     

     
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    In a league where quarterbacks routinely complete 60 percent of their passes, Tim Tebow finished the season with a 46.5 completion percentage. Not sure that injuries in the secondary and the absence of Ryan Clark will make a difference. The Steelers might not need their offense in this game, but they will going forward. And it needs to get better.

    Prediction: Steelers, 16-10   GL

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    In a league where quarterbacks routinely complete 60 percent of their passes, Tim Tebow finished the season with a 46.5 completion percentage. Not sure that injuries in the secondary and the absence of Ryan Clark will make a difference. The Steelers might not need their offense in this game, but they will going forward. And it needs to get better.

    Prediction: Steelers, 16-10   GL

     
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    Everybody-

    Shooter may not be an attorney but he can debate/argue just like one. No circumstantial evidence with this guy. Fact is Denver's Def was ranked 20th and a Broncos team who had Tebow as QB won the division. Since we can't argue that, the other arguements don't hold much water. I think he sucks as a QB(but is a great human being and competitor) Our opinions should eventually hold water but that remains to be seen. If he continues to play this way he will "suck" or it might be better just to say he is terrible. Saying he sucks just seems like a put down. Probably part of what shooter doesn't like. However he and the Broncos team could improve the next few years. However, his mechanics are what they are and will be hard to change. It's just the way he throws. My opinion is the Tebow media frenzy will die down and we can focus on other great guys such as Brees and Rodgers.

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    Everybody-

    Shooter may not be an attorney but he can debate/argue just like one. No circumstantial evidence with this guy. Fact is Denver's Def was ranked 20th and a Broncos team who had Tebow as QB won the division. Since we can't argue that, the other arguements don't hold much water. I think he sucks as a QB(but is a great human being and competitor) Our opinions should eventually hold water but that remains to be seen. If he continues to play this way he will "suck" or it might be better just to say he is terrible. Saying he sucks just seems like a put down. Probably part of what shooter doesn't like. However he and the Broncos team could improve the next few years. However, his mechanics are what they are and will be hard to change. It's just the way he throws. My opinion is the Tebow media frenzy will die down and we can focus on other great guys such as Brees and Rodgers.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fox24:

    and the giants gonna get wrecked this week too 

    They beat your Cowboys both times this season and will be playing at least one more game than them this season.

    And Tebow comes thru in big games? Like that "win and in" situation last week? Looks like he's in the same boat as Romo. If you're in the "win and in" situation...you won't win.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fox24:

    and the giants gonna get wrecked this week too 

    They beat your Cowboys both times this season and will be playing at least one more game than them this season.

    And Tebow comes thru in big games? Like that "win and in" situation last week? Looks like he's in the same boat as Romo. If you're in the "win and in" situation...you won't win.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky10191:


    They beat your Cowboys both times this season and will be playing at least one more game than them this season.

    And Tebow comes thru in big games? Like that "win and in" situation last week? Looks like he's in the same boat as Romo. If you're in the "win and in" situation...you won't win.

    Sparky ...first I hope your Giants win because I like Eli...I like the entire down to earth family....anyway they say dont talk about politics and RELIGION...correct ? I really think the media knows exactly what they are doing here....they knew the main Tebow glaring persona was his OUTWARD faith...so you want to sell media you start with controversy....I think this is one huge angle they wanted to use....because it seems there is no middle of the road with anything this guy does....T Suggs now saying something and they dont even face them....the guy is a lightning rod and that is all there is to it....you do have to give the guy credit because you know he gets it from every angle....he has GOT to be tough as nails I would think....I am just gonna wait...who knows maybe with a good off season with a good position coach and maybe a tutor/mentor something might happen....remember how bad Bradshaw was when he got in the NFL for a few years ?  again hope the best in your game this week 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky10191:


    They beat your Cowboys both times this season and will be playing at least one more game than them this season.

    And Tebow comes thru in big games? Like that "win and in" situation last week? Looks like he's in the same boat as Romo. If you're in the "win and in" situation...you won't win.

    Sparky ...first I hope your Giants win because I like Eli...I like the entire down to earth family....anyway they say dont talk about politics and RELIGION...correct ? I really think the media knows exactly what they are doing here....they knew the main Tebow glaring persona was his OUTWARD faith...so you want to sell media you start with controversy....I think this is one huge angle they wanted to use....because it seems there is no middle of the road with anything this guy does....T Suggs now saying something and they dont even face them....the guy is a lightning rod and that is all there is to it....you do have to give the guy credit because you know he gets it from every angle....he has GOT to be tough as nails I would think....I am just gonna wait...who knows maybe with a good off season with a good position coach and maybe a tutor/mentor something might happen....remember how bad Bradshaw was when he got in the NFL for a few years ?  again hope the best in your game this week 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fox24:

    Sparky you are wrong about tim tebow. He will lead denver over pitt this week. He will throw for 250+ yards. The man comes thru in big games. U just a hater



    Big game vs KC Tebow came thru HUGE

    But then of course he got another reprieve as Oakland couldnt get it done!!
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    Sparky you are wrong about tim tebow. He will lead denver over pitt this week. He will throw for 250+ yards. The man comes thru in big games. U just a hater



    Big game vs KC Tebow came thru HUGE

    But then of course he got another reprieve as Oakland couldnt get it done!!
     
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    75% runningback, 25% quarterback.
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    Broncos win Sunday guys, and Tim's leadership will play a large part, with his legs and arm too   
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    Quote Originally Posted by tiasman:

    Broncos win Sunday guys, and Tim's leadership will play a large part, with his legs and arm too   

    No he won't.  He's the most godawful passer I have ever seen in the NFL.  If the Broncos do somehow snatch a victory, it will be because the Defense and special teams steps up yet again.

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    Broncos win Sunday guys, and Tim's leadership will play a large part, with his legs and arm too   

    No he won't.  He's the most godawful passer I have ever seen in the NFL.  If the Broncos do somehow snatch a victory, it will be because the Defense and special teams steps up yet again.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky10191:


    They beat your Cowboys both times this season and will be playing at least one more game than them this season.

    And Tebow comes thru in big games? Like that "win and in" situation last week? Looks like he's in the same boat as Romo. If you're in the "win and in" situation...you won't win.

    Fox24’s post count is at 2 and none of those posts mention the Cowboys so what makes you think he/she is a Cowboys fan?

    Just curious.

     

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    They beat your Cowboys both times this season and will be playing at least one more game than them this season.

    And Tebow comes thru in big games? Like that "win and in" situation last week? Looks like he's in the same boat as Romo. If you're in the "win and in" situation...you won't win.

    Fox24’s post count is at 2 and none of those posts mention the Cowboys so what makes you think he/she is a Cowboys fan?

    Just curious.

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by TA63:

    No he won't.  He's the most godawful passer I have ever seen in the NFL.  If the Broncos do somehow snatch a victory, it will be because the Defense and special teams steps up yet again.

    IF the Broncos do win that will mean they are 9-6 with Tebow starting and 4-14 with him on the bench.

    Is that just a big coincidence?

     

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    No he won't.  He's the most godawful passer I have ever seen in the NFL.  If the Broncos do somehow snatch a victory, it will be because the Defense and special teams steps up yet again.

    IF the Broncos do win that will mean they are 9-6 with Tebow starting and 4-14 with him on the bench.

    Is that just a big coincidence?

     

     
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    If your a Denver or Tebow fan, please acknowledge your team has not had a QB since Elway, and the league/refs feel bad for you. Your D won you games. Your schedule was just packed with big W's (hardly) more like last minute miracles. If Pittsburgh was or is healthy this game is a no contest. Denver does not deserve to be in this situation. I hope Tebow throws the ball with his awesome rating so the Steelers can well Steel the ball. Pittsburgh didn't need last minute wins and media hype, or another team to lose to get into the playoffs (do people forget Denver lost 10-7 at home to KC?!? I am a KC fan lol Pittsburgh is not KC). Best of luck Bronco Backers, I believe you will need it.
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    If your a Denver or Tebow fan, please acknowledge your team has not had a QB since Elway, and the league/refs feel bad for you. Your D won you games. Your schedule was just packed with big W's (hardly) more like last minute miracles. If Pittsburgh was or is healthy this game is a no contest. Denver does not deserve to be in this situation. I hope Tebow throws the ball with his awesome rating so the Steelers can well Steel the ball. Pittsburgh didn't need last minute wins and media hype, or another team to lose to get into the playoffs (do people forget Denver lost 10-7 at home to KC?!? I am a KC fan lol Pittsburgh is not KC). Best of luck Bronco Backers, I believe you will need it.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by StraightShooter:

    IF the Broncos do win that will mean they are 9-6 with Tebow starting and 4-14 with him on the bench.

    Is that just a big coincidence?

     

    Partially, yes.  Go back and analyze each game he has started in this year then come and tell me they were all due to Tebow, and the D had no part.  I watched them all, and went 6-1 on sides and totals involving him.  Its not hard to see who deserves the credit on that team.

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    IF the Broncos do win that will mean they are 9-6 with Tebow starting and 4-14 with him on the bench.

    Is that just a big coincidence?

     

    Partially, yes.  Go back and analyze each game he has started in this year then come and tell me they were all due to Tebow, and the D had no part.  I watched them all, and went 6-1 on sides and totals involving him.  Its not hard to see who deserves the credit on that team.

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by TA63:

    Partially, yes.  Go back and analyze each game he has started in this year then come and tell me they were all due to Tebow, and the D had no part.  I watched them all, and went 6-1 on sides and totals involving him.  Its not hard to see who deserves the credit on that team.

    I challenge you to point out where I claimed Denver’s turnaround was “all due to Tebow and the D had no part.”

    If you look at the stats you will see (as I have stated repeatedly) that in Denver’s wins Tebow usually had a passer rating over 90 and the defense usually played well.  Then in Denver’s losses Tebow usually played poorly and the defense usually played poorly.

    You might not want to admit it, but they won and lost as a team.

    Without Tebow they wouldn't have made the playoffs just as without the defense playing better they wouldn't have made the playoffs.

     

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    Partially, yes.  Go back and analyze each game he has started in this year then come and tell me they were all due to Tebow, and the D had no part.  I watched them all, and went 6-1 on sides and totals involving him.  Its not hard to see who deserves the credit on that team.

    I challenge you to point out where I claimed Denver’s turnaround was “all due to Tebow and the D had no part.”

    If you look at the stats you will see (as I have stated repeatedly) that in Denver’s wins Tebow usually had a passer rating over 90 and the defense usually played well.  Then in Denver’s losses Tebow usually played poorly and the defense usually played poorly.

    You might not want to admit it, but they won and lost as a team.

    Without Tebow they wouldn't have made the playoffs just as without the defense playing better they wouldn't have made the playoffs.

     

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