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    Here are some of the reasons why it's hard to fix games and how I hv used the games I hv lost to build my database and understand the game within the game.

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    Posted: Nov. 29, 2022 - 5:31 PM ET #1

    1. It very difficult to fix a game .too many people and skilled players have to be paid.

     

    2 many of them will forget what they have to do and when.

    3 injuries and weather and other intangibles will cause the players to not be available for their special role.

    4.everytime I lose,I never say "rigged" ,I take notes and research all the possible things, known as intangibles and add them to my database. 

    5.alll this information has helped to increase my winning percentage. 

    6..now when I see some matchup, I say to myself "I hv seen this movie before".

    7...another key factor to take into consideration is time.yes you will need a lot of time to get it right..

    8.will list my system selections later.

     

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    1. It very difficult to fix a game .too many people and skilled players have to be paid.

     

    2 many of them will forget what they have to do and when.

    3 injuries and weather and other intangibles will cause the players to not be available for their special role.

    4.everytime I lose,I never say "rigged" ,I take notes and research all the possible things, known as intangibles and add them to my database. 

    5.alll this information has helped to increase my winning percentage. 

    6..now when I see some matchup, I say to myself "I hv seen this movie before".

    7...another key factor to take into consideration is time.yes you will need a lot of time to get it right..

    8.will list my system selections later.

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 29, 2022 - 6:11 PM ET #2

    Does it really save you time in typing to not include the "a" and "e" in the word have?

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    Does it really save you time in typing to not include the "a" and "e" in the word have?

     
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    Posted: Nov. 29, 2022 - 6:35 PM ET #3

    Trivial 

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    Posted: Nov. 29, 2022 - 6:46 PM ET #4

    the nfl is legally allowed too fix their games for entertainment purposes only, theirs reason y quarterbacks get paid soo much then most coaches and refs, 

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    the nfl is legally allowed too fix their games for entertainment purposes only, theirs reason y quarterbacks get paid soo much then most coaches and refs, 

     
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    Posted: Nov. 29, 2022 - 7:06 PM ET #5

    Prove it.

    You are the first to read this.

    U have proof on many games that information does go around, but,not in a way to fix games.the outcome just seems like that.this should get you thinking. Now you will begin to 'see' inot games better and don't listen to fools.

     

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    Prove it.

    You are the first to read this.

    U have proof on many games that information does go around, but,not in a way to fix games.the outcome just seems like that.this should get you thinking. Now you will begin to 'see' inot games better and don't listen to fools.

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 29, 2022 - 9:14 PM ET #6

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    Posted: Nov. 29, 2022 - 10:12 PM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by punta:

    Trivial

    Indeed it is peace_5

    I like to bust balls, good luck this weekend 

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    Quote Originally Posted by punta:

    Trivial

    Indeed it is peace_5

    I like to bust balls, good luck this weekend 

     
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    The NFL has ZERO interest in "fixing" games. It would not be beneficial for them to do so. More importantly, there's absolutely not evidence games are "fixed" / "rigged" / pre-determined. No evidence at all. None. Zero. There's also zero need to. The game is exciting as it is. The time to believe something, anything at all, is after there is sufficient evidence and a valid justification to warrant that belief. Not before. Some people believe the NFL is fixed. I get it. But their belief is not based upon good reasons. Their belief is certainly not based upon evidence. These people are making a determination and coming to a conclusion about something without proper justification. That's never an ideal thing to do. About anything. (And if someone could tell me why I lose all my paragraphs as soon as I hit the SUBMIT button, I'd appreciate it. The above text is broken up into four paragraphs... which I know will all be lost when I hit SUBMIT.)
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    The NFL has ZERO interest in "fixing" games. It would not be beneficial for them to do so. More importantly, there's absolutely not evidence games are "fixed" / "rigged" / pre-determined. No evidence at all. None. Zero. There's also zero need to. The game is exciting as it is. The time to believe something, anything at all, is after there is sufficient evidence and a valid justification to warrant that belief. Not before. Some people believe the NFL is fixed. I get it. But their belief is not based upon good reasons. Their belief is certainly not based upon evidence. These people are making a determination and coming to a conclusion about something without proper justification. That's never an ideal thing to do. About anything. (And if someone could tell me why I lose all my paragraphs as soon as I hit the SUBMIT button, I'd appreciate it. The above text is broken up into four paragraphs... which I know will all be lost when I hit SUBMIT.)
     
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    Posted: Nov. 30, 2022 - 8:42 PM ET #9

    dwight smith exposes nfl is rigged, type it youtube, 

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    dwight smith exposes nfl is rigged, type it youtube, 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2022 - 6:32 AM ET #10

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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2022 - 10:15 AM ET #11

    @punta

     Sometime they based of the history and play exact the same or opposite.

    I have no capping skills but hit 6 to 8 parlays often, all the games has programed that way.

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     Sometime they based of the history and play exact the same or opposite.

    I have no capping skills but hit 6 to 8 parlays often, all the games has programed that way.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2022 - 10:15 AM ET #12

    Nfl is not fixed.

    The handicappers and bettors are frigging lazy and fixed on their land locked betting strategies. 

    Unlock your perception of the game by listening and reading more info about every game and get the big picture before you select which team will have most effort on their side of ball.with more effort lower teams gets tornovers,bounces,interceptions,benefits from referee bad calls,use clock well,stay focus and no stupid penalties.therr , they win games and some say 'fix'..

    Within the next 5 weeks this will happen a lot,because many teams want to stay alive for playoff. 

    "fixed" will increase in usage.

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    Nfl is not fixed.

    The handicappers and bettors are frigging lazy and fixed on their land locked betting strategies. 

    Unlock your perception of the game by listening and reading more info about every game and get the big picture before you select which team will have most effort on their side of ball.with more effort lower teams gets tornovers,bounces,interceptions,benefits from referee bad calls,use clock well,stay focus and no stupid penalties.therr , they win games and some say 'fix'..

    Within the next 5 weeks this will happen a lot,because many teams want to stay alive for playoff. 

    "fixed" will increase in usage.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2022 - 12:08 PM ET #13

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     I truly don't feel sorry for alot of you guys wen u get scammed how can you be so dum just how is it possible it's a sport's entertainment business also a multi billion dollar business everything is corrupt I mean everything even the church money is the root of all evil believe that so u can come up with whatever model or stats or whatever some of y'all come up with it won't change ref's have went to jail for rigging game's player's have exposed it and to be honest idgaf I can spot the fix asap I'm a very successful gambler very I don't cry or complain I just understand that in life u have to think outside the box and most of the time I'm on the right side of the fix so to all who read this and don't agree ur so busy looking forward tunnel vision huh wat ur looking for was right above u explore every angle boy's...

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     I truly don't feel sorry for alot of you guys wen u get scammed how can you be so dum just how is it possible it's a sport's entertainment business also a multi billion dollar business everything is corrupt I mean everything even the church money is the root of all evil believe that so u can come up with whatever model or stats or whatever some of y'all come up with it won't change ref's have went to jail for rigging game's player's have exposed it and to be honest idgaf I can spot the fix asap I'm a very successful gambler very I don't cry or complain I just understand that in life u have to think outside the box and most of the time I'm on the right side of the fix so to all who read this and don't agree ur so busy looking forward tunnel vision huh wat ur looking for was right above u explore every angle boy's...

     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2022 - 12:20 PM ET #14

    majority of the sports is rigs especially prime time games. That’s how they make money to pay players etc.., 

    It’s the systems n the zebras is the one to control the game/rigs.  U just hope to be on right side of the rigs 

     

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    majority of the sports is rigs especially prime time games. That’s how they make money to pay players etc.., 

    It’s the systems n the zebras is the one to control the game/rigs.  U just hope to be on right side of the rigs 

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2022 - 12:22 PM ET #15

    We should all chip in a 100 each on covers and call one these Nfl QBs or Refs and see if we can set up a game. It's a federal crime but oh well. 

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    We should all chip in a 100 each on covers and call one these Nfl QBs or Refs and see if we can set up a game. It's a federal crime but oh well. 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2022 - 12:52 PM ET #16

    You must have never heard of Patrick Maholmes. I’ve watched this guy in at least 3 super fishy games over the past 2 seasons. Watch him closely that’s all I’ll say. 

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    You must have never heard of Patrick Maholmes. I’ve watched this guy in at least 3 super fishy games over the past 2 seasons. Watch him closely that’s all I’ll say. 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2022 - 1:02 PM ET #17

    Chiefs last year vs Bengals lol. 

     

    https://youtube.com/shorts/XGyA7w8FpFA?feature=share

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    Chiefs last year vs Bengals lol. 

     

    https://youtube.com/shorts/XGyA7w8FpFA?feature=share

     
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    Its rigged for action without a doubt. Gotta keep games close. 

    Also the nfl is in bed with us betting sites and gets a percentage of all NFL bets placed. 

    Not saying its fixed for vegas at all. But look at all the games that come down to the wire these days, coincidence ya right..

    And ya pat the point shaver mahomes is definitely in question.  

    Ya all just keep believing the nfl is as pure as the driven snow. Lmfao..

    SUCKAS!!!

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    Its rigged for action without a doubt. Gotta keep games close. 

    Also the nfl is in bed with us betting sites and gets a percentage of all NFL bets placed. 

    Not saying its fixed for vegas at all. But look at all the games that come down to the wire these days, coincidence ya right..

    And ya pat the point shaver mahomes is definitely in question.  

    Ya all just keep believing the nfl is as pure as the driven snow. Lmfao..

    SUCKAS!!!

     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2022 - 1:17 PM ET #19

    All ya have to do is look at some of these penalties called or missed at the most important time in any game. I love when they throw em on 3rd and 4th down to extend a drive and proceed to pick it up after they convert on 3rd and long and then discuss at and say sorry, no foul on the play.

    Also the play calling and clock management by these coaches are laughable at the most important time in these games. Just straight up stupidity. Unacceptable even coaching an FCS or high school team. 

    I get the same feeling watching nfl these days as I get watching WCW, Jerry Springer, Pawns stars, General hospital, etc

    They all kill brain cells at an alarming rate if you watch too much of it. 

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    All ya have to do is look at some of these penalties called or missed at the most important time in any game. I love when they throw em on 3rd and 4th down to extend a drive and proceed to pick it up after they convert on 3rd and long and then discuss at and say sorry, no foul on the play.

    Also the play calling and clock management by these coaches are laughable at the most important time in these games. Just straight up stupidity. Unacceptable even coaching an FCS or high school team. 

    I get the same feeling watching nfl these days as I get watching WCW, Jerry Springer, Pawns stars, General hospital, etc

    They all kill brain cells at an alarming rate if you watch too much of it. 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2022 - 1:56 PM ET #20

    Gotta keep games close? Seriously? Demonstrate to me how the games would not be as close if there were no rigging going on. Furthermore, how do you account for the many, many games that are not close at all?
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    Gotta keep games close? Seriously? Demonstrate to me how the games would not be as close if there were no rigging going on. Furthermore, how do you account for the many, many games that are not close at all?
     
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    The NFL is "in bed" with US betting sites and gets a percentage of all NFL bets placed? Seriously? Please provide evidence for this claim. I'll wait.
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    The NFL is "in bed" with US betting sites and gets a percentage of all NFL bets placed? Seriously? Please provide evidence for this claim. I'll wait.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2022 - 1:58 PM ET #22

    Dwight Smith provided absolutely no evidence at all the NFL is rigged. None. He could have provided audio recordings, text messages, e-mails, anything at all. And yet he did not. Heck, I could claim I know where Jimmy Hoffa is buried. That doesn't make it true.
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2022 - 1:59 PM ET #23

    Conspiracy theorists seem to love enjoy bringing up the fact that the NFL classifies themselves as "entertainment." So what? That doesn't make any difference at all. It's irrelevant. It doesn't indicate the NFL is scripting the outcomes... or that it's desirable to do so... or that it's possible to do so on the level suggested by most. Actually, it's much, MUCH more entertaining when the outcome of a sporting contest is NOT known or scripted. Have you ever watched a replay of a sporting event when you already knew the result? Not nearly as exciting, was it. Have you watched the emotion of the players and coaches on the sidelines, in a closely contested game? Most people aren't good enough actors to fake that. The nature of the game itself lends to a lot of drama. That's why football has been popular at the high school, college, and pro levels, for what... close to 100 years?
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    Conspiracy theorists seem to love enjoy bringing up the fact that the NFL classifies themselves as "entertainment." So what? That doesn't make any difference at all. It's irrelevant. It doesn't indicate the NFL is scripting the outcomes... or that it's desirable to do so... or that it's possible to do so on the level suggested by most. Actually, it's much, MUCH more entertaining when the outcome of a sporting contest is NOT known or scripted. Have you ever watched a replay of a sporting event when you already knew the result? Not nearly as exciting, was it. Have you watched the emotion of the players and coaches on the sidelines, in a closely contested game? Most people aren't good enough actors to fake that. The nature of the game itself lends to a lot of drama. That's why football has been popular at the high school, college, and pro levels, for what... close to 100 years?
     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2022 - 2:00 PM ET #24

    Who's in on this rigging? The head coaches? The assistant coaches? The coaches on all of the teams or just a few of them? The NFL owners? All of the owners or just a few of them? The players themselves? All of the players or just a few of them? Are ALL of the referees in on this rigging or just a few of them? What about the employees in the NFL office? Are they aware of the rigging? If so, are all of these employees aware of this or just a few? Are all of the games rigged or just a few of them? Who decides which team will win? Why? WHEN is this decision made? The night before? The week before? A few hours before? Are the sportsbooks in Vegas in on it? If so, are all of them aware of it or just a few? Note that many sportsbooks operate independently from one another. How long has this rigging been going on? Five years? Ten years? Twenty? How come no one has ever come forward with any actual EVIDENCE for this rigging you speak of? Text messages, audio recordings, e-mail messages, letters... How come no one has won a Pulitzer Prize with evidence for this mass conspiracy you claim?
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    Who's in on this rigging? The head coaches? The assistant coaches? The coaches on all of the teams or just a few of them? The NFL owners? All of the owners or just a few of them? The players themselves? All of the players or just a few of them? Are ALL of the referees in on this rigging or just a few of them? What about the employees in the NFL office? Are they aware of the rigging? If so, are all of these employees aware of this or just a few? Are all of the games rigged or just a few of them? Who decides which team will win? Why? WHEN is this decision made? The night before? The week before? A few hours before? Are the sportsbooks in Vegas in on it? If so, are all of them aware of it or just a few? Note that many sportsbooks operate independently from one another. How long has this rigging been going on? Five years? Ten years? Twenty? How come no one has ever come forward with any actual EVIDENCE for this rigging you speak of? Text messages, audio recordings, e-mail messages, letters... How come no one has won a Pulitzer Prize with evidence for this mass conspiracy you claim?
     
     
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    Carl Sagan: "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence." The more unlikely a certain claim is, given existing evidence on the subject, the greater the standard of proof that is expected of it. And yet we no evidence at all that the NFL stages/scripts games, let alone extraordinary evidence. Pick any NFL game... any at all, from any time period, and demonstrate to me the final outcome, and the way that outcome was obtained, could simply NOT have occurred without a so-called script.
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    Carl Sagan: "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence." The more unlikely a certain claim is, given existing evidence on the subject, the greater the standard of proof that is expected of it. And yet we no evidence at all that the NFL stages/scripts games, let alone extraordinary evidence. Pick any NFL game... any at all, from any time period, and demonstrate to me the final outcome, and the way that outcome was obtained, could simply NOT have occurred without a so-called script.
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