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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2013 - 12:42 PM ET #26

    Seattle secondary matches up well with Atl WR/TE mix...I do like the Falcons here..

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    Seattle secondary matches up well with Atl WR/TE mix...I do like the Falcons here..

     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2013 - 12:43 PM ET #27

    Great writeup!!!    after due deliberation i arrive at the following conclusion , :                   SEATTLE   xxxtra heavy..      
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    Great writeup!!!    after due deliberation i arrive at the following conclusion , :                   SEATTLE   xxxtra heavy..      
     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2013 - 12:43 PM ET #28

    ok so back to back WC to EC means they're gonna lose. and just cuz ur coming off a bye means ur automatically gonna win?

    im just saying..seattle is really really hot right now...and thats the best thing to have in the playoffs..ATL is good but not that good IMO..yes they're a beast at home but not unbeatable. their defense is not all that either...they're offensive is really explosive too but nothing seattle CANT handle. seattle has a much better defense (home or away) and a better run game and they're on fire right now. holla at me

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    ok so back to back WC to EC means they're gonna lose. and just cuz ur coming off a bye means ur automatically gonna win?

    im just saying..seattle is really really hot right now...and thats the best thing to have in the playoffs..ATL is good but not that good IMO..yes they're a beast at home but not unbeatable. their defense is not all that either...they're offensive is really explosive too but nothing seattle CANT handle. seattle has a much better defense (home or away) and a better run game and they're on fire right now. holla at me

     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2013 - 1:03 PM ET #29

    where did i say they were automatically going to win coming off of their bye? that song has been sung before. they lost to the pack just 2 years ago. 
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    where did i say they were automatically going to win coming off of their bye? that song has been sung before. they lost to the pack just 2 years ago. 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2013 - 1:07 PM ET #30

    my point being, traveling 8000 miles takes a toll on the human body regardless of the person. i dont care if youre a pro athlete and are conditioned. crossing 9 time zones in 5 days will take a toll on your body. then having to get up to play a playoff game at 10AM? that means you have to be up at 6 AM in seattle at latest to eat, head to the dome, get ready to play, then actually play the game. stats dont always tell the story. we saw what seattle has done in their only 1 pm est start this year and they lost to the dolphins
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    my point being, traveling 8000 miles takes a toll on the human body regardless of the person. i dont care if youre a pro athlete and are conditioned. crossing 9 time zones in 5 days will take a toll on your body. then having to get up to play a playoff game at 10AM? that means you have to be up at 6 AM in seattle at latest to eat, head to the dome, get ready to play, then actually play the game. stats dont always tell the story. we saw what seattle has done in their only 1 pm est start this year and they lost to the dolphins
     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2013 - 1:17 PM ET #31

    Excellent write-up and analysis Sammy.

    My gut has Seattle + the points....but u offer a different perspective of the Falcons which is good to see.

    I'll have to take a closer look at this game...initially I had Seattle winnin this one and losing their next to GB (assuming they beat SF).

    One thing I did notice is that ATL def ranks in the mid 20's against the rush/pass yet their points allowed is ranked 5th best. The only way this formula works is with turnovers....and can u really rely on getting 3 turnovers consistently?

    Once again great analysis...GL!
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    Excellent write-up and analysis Sammy.

    My gut has Seattle + the points....but u offer a different perspective of the Falcons which is good to see.

    I'll have to take a closer look at this game...initially I had Seattle winnin this one and losing their next to GB (assuming they beat SF).

    One thing I did notice is that ATL def ranks in the mid 20's against the rush/pass yet their points allowed is ranked 5th best. The only way this formula works is with turnovers....and can u really rely on getting 3 turnovers consistently?

    Once again great analysis...GL!
     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2013 - 1:18 PM ET #32

    we'll c my friend
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2013 - 6:07 PM ET #33

    [Quote: Originally Posted by usikbasterd]

    this isnt a "soft line" as you say it is. another difference is that seattles defense is much better than kc, dallas, nyg, detroit, and wash..even on their worst days. ok and yes..the lost of chris clemons is notable..but the loss of jason jones is not. they havent missed a beat after losing jason jones. chris clemons is not the heart and soul of that defense either...seattle can still generate a lot of pass rush and pressure on matt ryan and you dont need that great of a run defense to stop michael turner. 

    "the reason the seattle secondary has bullied so many receiving corp's this year is not so much their ability to create a mismatch in speed, but their ability to out physical their foes and basically intimidate the s h # t out of them."

    INTIMIDATE THE garbage OUT OF THEM? dude this is the nfl...nobody is intimidated by nothing...this here is the dumbest thing ever

    seattle cant win on the road?? gimme a break.

    atl hasnt even won a playoff game yet

    always go with the hottest team in the playoffs

    what is the dumbest thing ever is you saying that the loss of jason jones was nothing.  you should go back and check your stats for the defensive linemen of the seahawks and see how jones compared to the other D tackles in regards to number of snaps and sacks, QB hits, and QB pressures.  but this is the nfl right?  and stats mean nothing.  you should know, it seems you know it all

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    [Quote: Originally Posted by usikbasterd]

    this isnt a "soft line" as you say it is. another difference is that seattles defense is much better than kc, dallas, nyg, detroit, and wash..even on their worst days. ok and yes..the lost of chris clemons is notable..but the loss of jason jones is not. they havent missed a beat after losing jason jones. chris clemons is not the heart and soul of that defense either...seattle can still generate a lot of pass rush and pressure on matt ryan and you dont need that great of a run defense to stop michael turner. 

    "the reason the seattle secondary has bullied so many receiving corp's this year is not so much their ability to create a mismatch in speed, but their ability to out physical their foes and basically intimidate the s h # t out of them."

    INTIMIDATE THE garbage OUT OF THEM? dude this is the nfl...nobody is intimidated by nothing...this here is the dumbest thing ever

    seattle cant win on the road?? gimme a break.

    atl hasnt even won a playoff game yet

    always go with the hottest team in the playoffs

    what is the dumbest thing ever is you saying that the loss of jason jones was nothing.  you should go back and check your stats for the defensive linemen of the seahawks and see how jones compared to the other D tackles in regards to number of snaps and sacks, QB hits, and QB pressures.  but this is the nfl right?  and stats mean nothing.  you should know, it seems you know it all

     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2013 - 6:37 PM ET #34

    Seahawk backers did you all forget if RGIII doesnt go down last week or is 100% FOR THE GAME !! seattle isnt even playing this week!! Falcons is the PLAY!!  Vegas is handing everybody a gift here  TAKE IT
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    Seahawk backers did you all forget if RGIII doesnt go down last week or is 100% FOR THE GAME !! seattle isnt even playing this week!! Falcons is the PLAY!!  Vegas is handing everybody a gift here  TAKE IT
     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2013 - 6:42 PM ET #35

    Quote Originally Posted by cody2:

    Seahawk backers did you all forget if RGIII doesnt go down last week or is 100% FOR THE GAME !! seattle isnt even playing this week!! Falcons is the PLAY!!  Vegas is handing everybody a gift here  TAKE IT


    so much BS in this post, i broke my shovel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cody2:

    Seahawk backers did you all forget if RGIII doesnt go down last week or is 100% FOR THE GAME !! seattle isnt even playing this week!! Falcons is the PLAY!!  Vegas is handing everybody a gift here  TAKE IT


    so much BS in this post, i broke my shovel.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2013 - 6:45 PM ET #37

    Skipster you should know becuase your full of BS!! you d-bag

     

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    Skipster you should know becuase your full of BS!! you d-bag

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2013 - 7:26 PM ET #38

    Don't do it bud
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2013 - 7:39 PM ET #39

    This is spot on. Seattle Secondary creates what DL needs, time to get to the QB.



    Quote: Originally Posted by evaneagan] Not sure where this ATL-1 line exists, but every book in Vegas, and the state of Nevada as a whole, has this game at ATL-2.5. 

    The sharp money has yet to hit this game as they are giving ATL backers, and all the other squares out there, the chance to drive the line up to SEA+3. The books, however, are keen to this and it might not reach their number—which is fine. 

    Seattle will miss the presence of Chris Clemons up front, but their D is built from the back to the front. They have had an average pass rush all year and have relied on a strong secondary to dominate opponents. Fortunately Atlanta's running game is average at best. 

    This is a bad matchup for Atlanta as their lackluster rush defense will have no answer for Marshawn Lynch, nor their fleet of foot QB Russell Wilson. The Hawks pass defense is well suited for physical receivers such as Atlanta's corps and they will still be able to put enough pressure on Matt Ryan to force him into bad decisions. 

    Throw into the mix Matt Ryan's lack of ability to win a playoff game and you come to one conclusion: take the Hawks and the points.
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    This is spot on. Seattle Secondary creates what DL needs, time to get to the QB.



    Quote: Originally Posted by evaneagan] Not sure where this ATL-1 line exists, but every book in Vegas, and the state of Nevada as a whole, has this game at ATL-2.5. 

    The sharp money has yet to hit this game as they are giving ATL backers, and all the other squares out there, the chance to drive the line up to SEA+3. The books, however, are keen to this and it might not reach their number—which is fine. 

    Seattle will miss the presence of Chris Clemons up front, but their D is built from the back to the front. They have had an average pass rush all year and have relied on a strong secondary to dominate opponents. Fortunately Atlanta's running game is average at best. 

    This is a bad matchup for Atlanta as their lackluster rush defense will have no answer for Marshawn Lynch, nor their fleet of foot QB Russell Wilson. The Hawks pass defense is well suited for physical receivers such as Atlanta's corps and they will still be able to put enough pressure on Matt Ryan to force him into bad decisions. 

    Throw into the mix Matt Ryan's lack of ability to win a playoff game and you come to one conclusion: take the Hawks and the points.
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2013 - 8:54 PM ET #40

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    good luck with your plays, lets get this !!! 
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    good luck with your plays, lets get this !!! 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2013 - 9:33 PM ET #41

    Not sure why my post above was blank...

    I agree, the Hawks D is built around their secondary. They create a ton of time for the other units to create disruptions. I will be on the Hawks and the Pack ML baby! 
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    Not sure why my post above was blank...

    I agree, the Hawks D is built around their secondary. They create a ton of time for the other units to create disruptions. I will be on the Hawks and the Pack ML baby! 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2013 - 10:55 PM ET #42

    Also, I don't think Clemmons being out is that much of a loss. He had 11.5 sacks this year, which ranks 9th in the league. 4 of those sacks came in the GB game, week 3. If you exclude that game he is 7.5 sacks for the year, which is mediocre at best. If you are generous and use 2 of them 9.5 is still not that great.  ATL is not that great on D, giving up over 120 rushing yards a game and over 240 passing yards a game.  The best thing ATL has going for them is their lack of penalties. 

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    Also, I don't think Clemmons being out is that much of a loss. He had 11.5 sacks this year, which ranks 9th in the league. 4 of those sacks came in the GB game, week 3. If you exclude that game he is 7.5 sacks for the year, which is mediocre at best. If you are generous and use 2 of them 9.5 is still not that great.  ATL is not that great on D, giving up over 120 rushing yards a game and over 240 passing yards a game.  The best thing ATL has going for them is their lack of penalties. 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2013 - 11:28 PM ET #43

    WORST POSSIBLE DRAW FOR ATLANTA DUE TO MATCHUPS.  IN THE END, RYAN CANT RUN, WILSON WILL.
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    WORST POSSIBLE DRAW FOR ATLANTA DUE TO MATCHUPS.  IN THE END, RYAN CANT RUN, WILSON WILL.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2013 - 11:32 PM ET #44

    Lol. Yeah let's take 4 sacks away cause they happened in one game. Excellent logic.
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    Lol. Yeah let's take 4 sacks away cause they happened in one game. Excellent logic.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2013 - 12:52 AM ET #45

    Im a Seattle fan USIK. Was just giving my thoughts on how they played that game. Didnt mean theyre brilliant every week. Just was wondering why they didnt implement it more often.
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    Im a Seattle fan USIK. Was just giving my thoughts on how they played that game. Didnt mean theyre brilliant every week. Just was wondering why they didnt implement it more often.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2013 - 1:21 AM ET #46


    Quote Originally Posted by mrquija27:

    Lol. Yeah let's take 4 sacks away cause they happened in one game. Excellent logic.

    My logic is.....Consistency is a huge factor in professional sports. If you exclude that 1 game Clemmons is far from consistent. More so, my logic shows, that their D is clearly built around a strong secondary. Sacks are great, but they don't really need big sack numbers to be successful. Seattle had 38 sacks this year, which ranks 18th in the NFL. I really don't see Seattle struggling because Clemmons is out.




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    Quote Originally Posted by mrquija27:

    Lol. Yeah let's take 4 sacks away cause they happened in one game. Excellent logic.

    My logic is.....Consistency is a huge factor in professional sports. If you exclude that 1 game Clemmons is far from consistent. More so, my logic shows, that their D is clearly built around a strong secondary. Sacks are great, but they don't really need big sack numbers to be successful. Seattle had 38 sacks this year, which ranks 18th in the NFL. I really don't see Seattle struggling because Clemmons is out.




     
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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2013 - 3:03 AM ET #47

    why all the discussion when the games are fixed anyways? 

    Ima go with ATL
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    why all the discussion when the games are fixed anyways? 

    Ima go with ATL
     
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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2013 - 3:07 AM ET #48

    excellent write up.  on ATL myself, not the best matchup for them tho.  I think either Seattle controls the game and it ends in a FG, or ATL gets some quick scores, forces some turnovers, and its game over by halftime.  All this ATL/Matt Ryan hasn't won a playoff game means nothing to me.  If they lose it will be because they weren't able to stop the run.  Past failures sometimes equals future success.  The Dome will be rocking!  
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    excellent write up.  on ATL myself, not the best matchup for them tho.  I think either Seattle controls the game and it ends in a FG, or ATL gets some quick scores, forces some turnovers, and its game over by halftime.  All this ATL/Matt Ryan hasn't won a playoff game means nothing to me.  If they lose it will be because they weren't able to stop the run.  Past failures sometimes equals future success.  The Dome will be rocking!  
     
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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2013 - 3:22 AM ET #49

    Mike Nolan one of the best in the league.  Even when he was with the Niners and they sucked the Defense was phenomenal
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    Mike Nolan one of the best in the league.  Even when he was with the Niners and they sucked the Defense was phenomenal
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by NOboy:

    here's some more food for thought:

    Over the past five seasons, the Seahawks have won once when faced with a 1 p.m. ET start. And don't discount this: By the time the game starts, they will have traveled more than 8,000 miles in little more than a week.

    I believe the same B.S. was said when GB went all the way as a wild card team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NOboy:

    here's some more food for thought:

    Over the past five seasons, the Seahawks have won once when faced with a 1 p.m. ET start. And don't discount this: By the time the game starts, they will have traveled more than 8,000 miles in little more than a week.

    I believe the same B.S. was said when GB went all the way as a wild card team.

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