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    Why would anyone lay 2 TD with Boston tonight?

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    robbie0570
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    Posted: Apr. 30, 2008 - 6:02 PM ET #76

    Danny Choi...
     
    I realize how it works my friend, been doing this almost 20 years, and in a perfect gambling business world that would be great to get even action on both sides, this equates to 10% juice to the house....how many times out of 10 do you think the casino has even action on both sides?? your bookie every night get perfect action both ways??...you ever hear him say "man I need boston tonight!"...I know a gentleman who runs an offshore in jamaiica and has over 8,000 clients and over 100 people answering his phones...some nights he loses three quarters of a million, some nights he makes double that....and the sportsbooks in Nevada don't even like you betting sports, they make most of their money on horses...they book sports as an added luxery and most of their revenue comes from slot machines and the tables, especially the slots....CELTICS ROLL TONIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    Danny Choi...
     
    I realize how it works my friend, been doing this almost 20 years, and in a perfect gambling business world that would be great to get even action on both sides, this equates to 10% juice to the house....how many times out of 10 do you think the casino has even action on both sides?? your bookie every night get perfect action both ways??...you ever hear him say "man I need boston tonight!"...I know a gentleman who runs an offshore in jamaiica and has over 8,000 clients and over 100 people answering his phones...some nights he loses three quarters of a million, some nights he makes double that....and the sportsbooks in Nevada don't even like you betting sports, they make most of their money on horses...they book sports as an added luxery and most of their revenue comes from slot machines and the tables, especially the slots....CELTICS ROLL TONIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    Posted: Apr. 30, 2008 - 6:07 PM ET #77

    Danny....in your other thread u were preaching ATLANTA, now that pistol is fading ATLANTA your saying he hit the nail on the head???
     
    why not flip a coin at this point....
     
    i'll give u props on your totals, i've tailed u a few times on those...never seen u pick a side but i'd rather see u get back to over/unders....cuz ATLANTA is getting buried tonight IMO but we'll see...it is only a basketball game in the real scheme of things.
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    Danny....in your other thread u were preaching ATLANTA, now that pistol is fading ATLANTA your saying he hit the nail on the head???
     
    why not flip a coin at this point....
     
    i'll give u props on your totals, i've tailed u a few times on those...never seen u pick a side but i'd rather see u get back to over/unders....cuz ATLANTA is getting buried tonight IMO but we'll see...it is only a basketball game in the real scheme of things.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 30, 2008 - 6:09 PM ET #78

    robbie0570 - no point in arguing this further.  If the celtics roll I'll feel dumb.  If the Hawks easily cover or win outright you'll feel dumb.

    If the celtics win by 12 we'll both feel ok about it, but I'll cash, so I'll feel better. 
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    robbie0570 - no point in arguing this further.  If the celtics roll I'll feel dumb.  If the Hawks easily cover or win outright you'll feel dumb.

    If the celtics win by 12 we'll both feel ok about it, but I'll cash, so I'll feel better. 
     
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    Posted: Apr. 30, 2008 - 6:13 PM ET #79

    maybe i didn't read pistols post well enough.

    when i say he hit the nail on the head, I mean that

    For as good as the Celtics were throughout the regular season, the fact that this is their first playoff run together is huge. Also, it seems to me that the Celtics were very much well prepared for the Hawks in Game 4, evidenced by their 16-3 lead out of the gates. The fact that the Hawks punched back makes me weary of how good the Celtics really are. Is it possible that this Celtic team, a cast of career-long losers, spent the entire regular season pummeling teams into the ground because it was the first time they could? That they paraded through the regular season playing at their highest possible level and now in the playoffs, are incapable of going any higher? Also, is it possible they are burnt out from giving 150% every night of the 82 game season and have to face a young and athletic team that seems more dangerous the deeper this series goes...

    All of that is very on point.  I guess he wrote that and said he will fade the Hawks so what the fuck.  But I like his rationale.

    Bottom line is I'll start working some totals out over the next few rounds and hope to finish the year w/ a strong push.  Im glad I was able to make you some $ earlier, lets keep it up down the stretch. 
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    maybe i didn't read pistols post well enough.

    when i say he hit the nail on the head, I mean that

    For as good as the Celtics were throughout the regular season, the fact that this is their first playoff run together is huge. Also, it seems to me that the Celtics were very much well prepared for the Hawks in Game 4, evidenced by their 16-3 lead out of the gates. The fact that the Hawks punched back makes me weary of how good the Celtics really are. Is it possible that this Celtic team, a cast of career-long losers, spent the entire regular season pummeling teams into the ground because it was the first time they could? That they paraded through the regular season playing at their highest possible level and now in the playoffs, are incapable of going any higher? Also, is it possible they are burnt out from giving 150% every night of the 82 game season and have to face a young and athletic team that seems more dangerous the deeper this series goes...

    All of that is very on point.  I guess he wrote that and said he will fade the Hawks so what the fuck.  But I like his rationale.

    Bottom line is I'll start working some totals out over the next few rounds and hope to finish the year w/ a strong push.  Im glad I was able to make you some $ earlier, lets keep it up down the stretch. 
     
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    Posted: Apr. 30, 2008 - 6:17 PM ET #80

    yeah get me some o/u's I was tailing u for like a week and then u disappeared....but thanx for the winners.
     
    yeah...not only will one of us feel dumb...one of us will be a little lighter in the assets/cash on hand section of the financial statement.
     
    gl buddy
     
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    yeah get me some o/u's I was tailing u for like a week and then u disappeared....but thanx for the winners.
     
    yeah...not only will one of us feel dumb...one of us will be a little lighter in the assets/cash on hand section of the financial statement.
     
    gl buddy
     
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    Posted: Apr. 30, 2008 - 6:20 PM ET #81

    Quote Originally Posted by DannyChoi:

    so your 14 points are with the best team in the NBA at home, in a must win situation Vs a young Hawks team that inside knows they have already overacheieved


    So they know they over-achieved meaning they can't play again?

    So Joe Johnsons sitting there like "Gee, we played our brains out against the Celtics last game, and totally won a game we should have lost.   So lets just roll over and die tonight."  Really?

     

    Yeah, something like that.        But more importantly, us Celtics backers are expecting that Games 3 & 4 in Atlanta got Boston's full attention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DannyChoi:

    so your 14 points are with the best team in the NBA at home, in a must win situation Vs a young Hawks team that inside knows they have already overacheieved


    So they know they over-achieved meaning they can't play again?

    So Joe Johnsons sitting there like "Gee, we played our brains out against the Celtics last game, and totally won a game we should have lost.   So lets just roll over and die tonight."  Really?

     

    Yeah, something like that.        But more importantly, us Celtics backers are expecting that Games 3 & 4 in Atlanta got Boston's full attention.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 30, 2008 - 6:21 PM ET #82

    Also robbie - Im sure you know 25x more about the industry than I do.  Fact.  All i know is that it always seemed to me that just the juice alone is enough for an off-shore or major book to turn profit, barring any crazy games that are loaded on one side.    Not saying Im right by any means, just what I always thought. 
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    Also robbie - Im sure you know 25x more about the industry than I do.  Fact.  All i know is that it always seemed to me that just the juice alone is enough for an off-shore or major book to turn profit, barring any crazy games that are loaded on one side.    Not saying Im right by any means, just what I always thought. 
     
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    Posted: Apr. 30, 2008 - 10:02 PM ET #83

    Quote Originally Posted by MrBator:

     

     

    Why is it crazy when Boston already easily covered lines of -15 in both its home games?  Now you think they should be favored by just 9 points?  Are you that swayed by what happened to the Celtics in Atlanta?  I see the Celtics having those 14 points covered by halftime, and it only gets worse for the Hawks after that.

     

    What a call, what a call.     

     

    First half -7.5 in the bag, -13.5 still pending.   

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrBator:

     

     

    Why is it crazy when Boston already easily covered lines of -15 in both its home games?  Now you think they should be favored by just 9 points?  Are you that swayed by what happened to the Celtics in Atlanta?  I see the Celtics having those 14 points covered by halftime, and it only gets worse for the Hawks after that.

     

    What a call, what a call.     

     

    First half -7.5 in the bag, -13.5 still pending.   

     
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    Posted: Apr. 30, 2008 - 10:03 PM ET #84

    Bator, should load up on 2h Celtics as well...this one is a 25 pt blowout
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    Bator, should load up on 2h Celtics as well...this one is a 25 pt blowout
     
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    Posted: Apr. 30, 2008 - 10:05 PM ET #85

    Quote Originally Posted by MrBator:

     

    What a call, what a call.     

     

    First half -7.5 in the bag, -13.5 still pending.   

    Thats impressive!  LOOK IN THE FUTURE and tell me what you see for the 2nd half--   under?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrBator:

     

    What a call, what a call.     

     

    First half -7.5 in the bag, -13.5 still pending.   

    Thats impressive!  LOOK IN THE FUTURE and tell me what you see for the 2nd half--   under?
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrBator:

     

    What a call, what a call.     

     

    First half -7.5 in the bag, -13.5 still pending.   

    I guess your not going to hedge and try for a middle

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrBator:

     

    What a call, what a call.     

     

    First half -7.5 in the bag, -13.5 still pending.   

    I guess your not going to hedge and try for a middle

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by frumundercheeze:

    I guess your not going to hedge and try for a middle

     

    No.  I put 1 unit on the Celtics -4.  That's all I could get.  I'm happy with what I've banked on the 1st half and I'm satisfied with what I've still got riding on the -13.5, which is no lock at this point anyways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frumundercheeze:

    I guess your not going to hedge and try for a middle

     

    No.  I put 1 unit on the Celtics -4.  That's all I could get.  I'm happy with what I've banked on the 1st half and I'm satisfied with what I've still got riding on the -13.5, which is no lock at this point anyways.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by einyx:

    Bator, should load up on 2h Celtics as well...this one is a 25 pt blowout

     

    I'm not a believer in laying more points at halftime with a big old favorite that's already covered the 1st half line, so be careful.  I laid -4 -110 for 1 unit, only because it was a great number.  Let's just say that -5 -120 is nothing I would endorse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by einyx:

    Bator, should load up on 2h Celtics as well...this one is a 25 pt blowout

     

    I'm not a believer in laying more points at halftime with a big old favorite that's already covered the 1st half line, so be careful.  I laid -4 -110 for 1 unit, only because it was a great number.  Let's just say that -5 -120 is nothing I would endorse.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 30, 2008 - 11:22 PM ET #89

    Quote Originally Posted by einyx:

    Bator, should load up on 2h Celtics as well...this one is a 25 pt blowout


    Wow I was right on the money lol. Think this game was about as easy as game 3 wiz at home and raptors game 3 at home.
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    Quote Originally Posted by einyx:

    Bator, should load up on 2h Celtics as well...this one is a 25 pt blowout


    Wow I was right on the money lol. Think this game was about as easy as game 3 wiz at home and raptors game 3 at home.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by einyx:

    Bator, should load up on 2h Celtics as well...this one is a 25 pt blowout

     

    einyx, you did me one better with that perfect prediction at halftime.  That's hilarious!

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    Quote Originally Posted by einyx:

    Bator, should load up on 2h Celtics as well...this one is a 25 pt blowout

     

    einyx, you did me one better with that perfect prediction at halftime.  That's hilarious!

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