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    Why would anyone lay 2 TD with Boston tonight?

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    Posted: Apr. 30, 2008 - 10:26 AM ET #1

    seriously...

    i'd love to know because i'm seeing +1300 money lines out there as well and i'm salivating

    in games 3 and 4, i watched a younger, fresher, faster team do whatever they wanted and come from a big defecit (game 4) and shut down the big bad celtics

    game 1 boxscore

    game 4 boxscore

    i know 1 and 2 were blowouts but game 4 shows that doc deviated from what he did in 1 and 2 and what he did all season. all we heard is that the C's have a great bench...davis and powe and cassell and posey...game 4 they disappear, doc goes back to his security blanket (kg, pierce, allen) for nearly 120 minutes combined

    if i am taking a big ML dog, this is what i want to read/hear:

    Zaza on KG after the elbow: “We all know he’s a great player,” Pachulia said. “He’s done a lot of good things for the league. He’s a future Hall of Famer. But it doesn’t matter when we’re on the court.”

    “I don’t take anything from anybody,” Pachulia said. “The message was, ‘We’re right here. Even if we lose, it’s not going to be easy.”
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    seriously...

    i'd love to know because i'm seeing +1300 money lines out there as well and i'm salivating

    in games 3 and 4, i watched a younger, fresher, faster team do whatever they wanted and come from a big defecit (game 4) and shut down the big bad celtics

    game 1 boxscore

    game 4 boxscore

    i know 1 and 2 were blowouts but game 4 shows that doc deviated from what he did in 1 and 2 and what he did all season. all we heard is that the C's have a great bench...davis and powe and cassell and posey...game 4 they disappear, doc goes back to his security blanket (kg, pierce, allen) for nearly 120 minutes combined

    if i am taking a big ML dog, this is what i want to read/hear:

    Zaza on KG after the elbow: “We all know he’s a great player,” Pachulia said. “He’s done a lot of good things for the league. He’s a future Hall of Famer. But it doesn’t matter when we’re on the court.”

    “I don’t take anything from anybody,” Pachulia said. “The message was, ‘We’re right here. Even if we lose, it’s not going to be easy.”
    ’
     
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    Posted: Apr. 30, 2008 - 10:46 AM ET #2

    Very good point KOAJ.....no reason for that....

    GL tonight.

    Any thoughts on the Cavs????

    I am leaning towards Cavs and the over 191...I'm thinking Cavs back home a little momentum should be run and gun and foul shots at the end and the fact that the Wizards do not have a real 3 point shooter makes it look like a good play.

    I was on a 9-1 run ATS and enjoying life until last night when the spurs missed by a half point and the tribe lost.
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    Very good point KOAJ.....no reason for that....

    GL tonight.

    Any thoughts on the Cavs????

    I am leaning towards Cavs and the over 191...I'm thinking Cavs back home a little momentum should be run and gun and foul shots at the end and the fact that the Wizards do not have a real 3 point shooter makes it look like a good play.

    I was on a 9-1 run ATS and enjoying life until last night when the spurs missed by a half point and the tribe lost.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 30, 2008 - 10:48 AM ET #3

    mackaron - i dont think highly at all of the wizards. i dont think they play a lick of defense and have never trusted arenas to do anything of substance in a big spot (although he will ring up 40 on PHX in january and tell you all about it). butler is their best player

    i like seeing LBJ more motivated thanks to stevenson...i hope he goes 35-14-8 tonight
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    mackaron - i dont think highly at all of the wizards. i dont think they play a lick of defense and have never trusted arenas to do anything of substance in a big spot (although he will ring up 40 on PHX in january and tell you all about it). butler is their best player

    i like seeing LBJ more motivated thanks to stevenson...i hope he goes 35-14-8 tonight
     
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    Posted: Apr. 30, 2008 - 11:03 AM ET #4

    That sounds about right for LBJ.  It should be an intense game tonight. 

    GL
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    That sounds about right for LBJ.  It should be an intense game tonight. 

    GL
     
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    Posted: Apr. 30, 2008 - 11:09 AM ET #5

    Quote Originally Posted by KOAJ:

    seriously...

    i'd love to know because i'm seeing +1300 money lines out there as well and i'm salivating

    in games 3 and 4, i watched a younger, fresher, faster team do whatever they wanted and come from a big defecit (game 4) and shut down the big bad celtics

    game 1 boxscore

    game 4 boxscore

    i know 1 and 2 were blowouts but game 4 shows that doc deviated from what he did in 1 and 2 and what he did all season. all we heard is that the C's have a great bench...davis and powe and cassell and posey...game 4 they disappear, doc goes back to his security blanket (kg, pierce, allen) for nearly 120 minutes combined

    if i am taking a big ML dog, this is what i want to read/hear:

    Zaza on KG after the elbow: “We all know he’s a great player,” Pachulia said. “He’s done a lot of good things for the league. He’s a future Hall of Famer. But it doesn’t matter when we’re on the court.”

    “I don’t take anything from anybody,” Pachulia said. “The message was, ‘We’re right here. Even if we lose, it’s not going to be easy.”
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                 Your contribution, as always, informative, and appreciated

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    Quote Originally Posted by KOAJ:

    seriously...

    i'd love to know because i'm seeing +1300 money lines out there as well and i'm salivating

    in games 3 and 4, i watched a younger, fresher, faster team do whatever they wanted and come from a big defecit (game 4) and shut down the big bad celtics

    game 1 boxscore

    game 4 boxscore

    i know 1 and 2 were blowouts but game 4 shows that doc deviated from what he did in 1 and 2 and what he did all season. all we heard is that the C's have a great bench...davis and powe and cassell and posey...game 4 they disappear, doc goes back to his security blanket (kg, pierce, allen) for nearly 120 minutes combined

    if i am taking a big ML dog, this is what i want to read/hear:

    Zaza on KG after the elbow: “We all know he’s a great player,” Pachulia said. “He’s done a lot of good things for the league. He’s a future Hall of Famer. But it doesn’t matter when we’re on the court.”

    “I don’t take anything from anybody,” Pachulia said. “The message was, ‘We’re right here. Even if we lose, it’s not going to be easy.”
    ’

                 Your contribution, as always, informative, and appreciated

     
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    Posted: Apr. 30, 2008 - 11:18 AM ET #6

    would love to get a ML hit on the hawks tonight...i'll be watching matchbook for a good number all day

    pinny had +1300 this morning
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    would love to get a ML hit on the hawks tonight...i'll be watching matchbook for a good number all day

    pinny had +1300 this morning
     
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    Posted: Apr. 30, 2008 - 11:27 AM ET #7

    could not resist this approachable hit, grabbed it at the LV hilton, worth a c note play +1300 everywhere, good company to watch the game with! later bro
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    could not resist this approachable hit, grabbed it at the LV hilton, worth a c note play +1300 everywhere, good company to watch the game with! later bro
     
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    Posted: Apr. 30, 2008 - 11:27 AM ET #8

    I am 2 - 1 in this series (I took the Hawks in Game 2, 3, and 4 - all sadly with the points, and not the ML's).
     
    If I wouldn't bet the ML's then, I am sure as hell, not betting them now. 
     
    I would definitely discourage anyone that wants to bet on the Hawks ML tonight, as well as, the Hawks plus those two TD's you speak of.
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    I am 2 - 1 in this series (I took the Hawks in Game 2, 3, and 4 - all sadly with the points, and not the ML's).
     
    If I wouldn't bet the ML's then, I am sure as hell, not betting them now. 
     
    I would definitely discourage anyone that wants to bet on the Hawks ML tonight, as well as, the Hawks plus those two TD's you speak of.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by LetsDoThisRight:

    I am 2 - 1 in this series (I took the Hawks in Game 2, 3, and 4 - all sadly with the points, and not the ML's).
     
    If I wouldn't bet the ML's then, I am sure as hell, not betting them now. 
     
    I would definitely discourage anyone that wants to bet on the Hawks ML tonight, as well as, the Hawks plus those two TD's you speak of.


    why?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LetsDoThisRight:

    I am 2 - 1 in this series (I took the Hawks in Game 2, 3, and 4 - all sadly with the points, and not the ML's).
     
    If I wouldn't bet the ML's then, I am sure as hell, not betting them now. 
     
    I would definitely discourage anyone that wants to bet on the Hawks ML tonight, as well as, the Hawks plus those two TD's you speak of.


    why?
     
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    Posted: Apr. 30, 2008 - 11:33 AM ET #10

    i think the c's get it done tonight by 20
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    i think the c's get it done tonight by 20
     
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    Posted: Apr. 30, 2008 - 11:37 AM ET #11

    what were the other payouts for the previous hawks wins??
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    what were the other payouts for the previous hawks wins??
     
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    Posted: Apr. 30, 2008 - 11:38 AM ET #12

    Quote Originally Posted by SICKBOYZ:

    i think the c's get it done tonight by 20


    again....why?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SICKBOYZ:

    i think the c's get it done tonight by 20


    again....why?
     
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    Posted: Apr. 30, 2008 - 11:40 AM ET #13

    anyone remember Game 5 here?

    cavs were +10 i believe and the ML was +800

    i had both after watching cleveland mature in games 3 and 4 winning both at home against the best team in basketball
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    anyone remember Game 5 here?

    cavs were +10 i believe and the ML was +800

    i had both after watching cleveland mature in games 3 and 4 winning both at home against the best team in basketball
     
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    Atl.has up the tempo it seems to me and are not backing down at all,during the season they were more of a slow down team,but that changed somewhere,and now this young up=tempo team is giving the Celtics fits.
    KOAJ,I am taking the points but you really think Atl can win,or just that its a good value bet,+1400?
     
    And on LBJ why not change the 8 to a 10,and give him a triple-etc,lol   
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    Atl.has up the tempo it seems to me and are not backing down at all,during the season they were more of a slow down team,but that changed somewhere,and now this young up=tempo team is giving the Celtics fits.
    KOAJ,I am taking the points but you really think Atl can win,or just that its a good value bet,+1400?
     
    And on LBJ why not change the 8 to a 10,and give him a triple-etc,lol   
     
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    Posted: Apr. 30, 2008 - 11:45 AM ET #15

    Quote Originally Posted by KOAJ:



    again....why?


    i just think they take care of business at home they are obviously a diiferent team playing in boston rather than atl
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    again....why?


    i just think they take care of business at home they are obviously a diiferent team playing in boston rather than atl
     
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    Posted: Apr. 30, 2008 - 11:49 AM ET #16

    97-80 final
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    97-80 final
     
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    Posted: Apr. 30, 2008 - 11:50 AM ET #17

    Atlanta has all the momentum right now.  I don't buy into the "conspiracy theories", but the NBA might want the Celtics to win this game.
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    Atlanta has all the momentum right now.  I don't buy into the "conspiracy theories", but the NBA might want the Celtics to win this game.
     
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    Celtics have covered their last 8 home games ...  The Atlanta crowd was instrumental in Games 3 and 4 and that is now gone
     
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    Celtics have covered their last 8 home games ...  The Atlanta crowd was instrumental in Games 3 and 4 and that is now gone
     
     
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    Posted: Apr. 30, 2008 - 12:02 PM ET #19

    Quote Originally Posted by KOAJ:



    why?

    Well, okay...

    Because...

    The Hawks have shown they cannot cover at Boston in this series.  They lost by 23 points in game one, and 19 points in game two (with the Boston bench playing the end of those games). 

    My biggest, and best observation was this:

    The Celtics took it to the Hawks in the third quarter in game four (taking a 10 point lead into the fourth quarter), and if it wasn't for the Hawks homecourt, they would have NEVER came back.  They played off the crowd, and it showed.

    Unfortunately for them, they are playing in Boston tonight where there is no home crowd to feed off.

    You mentioned how the Hawks aren't backing down and blah, blah, blah.  This is a great mindset to have for a huge underdog.  It is an even greater mindset when it is kept quietly, and collectively, within the locker room.  Why mess with KG who is one of the, if not the most, passionate player in the game.

    If I were KG, I would let my game do the talking and put Zaza on 10 new posters of mine.

    The Celtics will be pouring it on tonight to tell Pachulia and the Hawks, "No, you are not here with us.  You are NOT on the same level as us."

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    Quote Originally Posted by KOAJ:



    why?

    Well, okay...

    Because...

    The Hawks have shown they cannot cover at Boston in this series.  They lost by 23 points in game one, and 19 points in game two (with the Boston bench playing the end of those games). 

    My biggest, and best observation was this:

    The Celtics took it to the Hawks in the third quarter in game four (taking a 10 point lead into the fourth quarter), and if it wasn't for the Hawks homecourt, they would have NEVER came back.  They played off the crowd, and it showed.

    Unfortunately for them, they are playing in Boston tonight where there is no home crowd to feed off.

    You mentioned how the Hawks aren't backing down and blah, blah, blah.  This is a great mindset to have for a huge underdog.  It is an even greater mindset when it is kept quietly, and collectively, within the locker room.  Why mess with KG who is one of the, if not the most, passionate player in the game.

    If I were KG, I would let my game do the talking and put Zaza on 10 new posters of mine.

    The Celtics will be pouring it on tonight to tell Pachulia and the Hawks, "No, you are not here with us.  You are NOT on the same level as us."

     
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    Im sure the nba wants Boston in the finals,at least playing Det.to get there,but Celtics still have to win the games.
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    Posted: Apr. 30, 2008 - 12:09 PM ET #21

    on a hunch

    Atlanta Hawks ML +1750

    just got filled on matchbook for a nominal amount
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    Atlanta Hawks ML +1750

    just got filled on matchbook for a nominal amount
     
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    Posted: Apr. 30, 2008 - 12:10 PM ET #22

    this hawks team has gained confidence over these 2 home games that is for sure.  it will be a different team then you saw in the first 2 games.  plus when doc rivers is your coach anythings possible.
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    this hawks team has gained confidence over these 2 home games that is for sure.  it will be a different team then you saw in the first 2 games.  plus when doc rivers is your coach anythings possible.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 30, 2008 - 12:11 PM ET #23

    letsdo/spaz - so the hawks wins in game 3 and 4 were based off the crowd only? thats what im reading from you

    what are your thoughts about tempo, style of play, rebounding advantage for the hawks in 3 of 4 games so far?

    JEG - he never gets TD's for some reason...stops at 8-9 boards usually. lol his typical line is a 32-7-7
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    letsdo/spaz - so the hawks wins in game 3 and 4 were based off the crowd only? thats what im reading from you

    what are your thoughts about tempo, style of play, rebounding advantage for the hawks in 3 of 4 games so far?

    JEG - he never gets TD's for some reason...stops at 8-9 boards usually. lol his typical line is a 32-7-7
     
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    Posted: Apr. 30, 2008 - 12:22 PM ET #24

    It wouldn't be a bad value bet at all, but I wouldn't throw too much on the ML.  The points maybe.  I think you're gonna see a raucous Boston crowd tonight and, like we saw in ATL, that type of crowd can elevate the teams level of energy and adrenaline. 

    The Celts' defense plays much better at home giving up an average of 87.5 versus 93 on the road.. While their offense averages just over 100 at home or on the road.  Meanwhile the Hawks are giving up 100.4 on the road and scoring almost 8pts fewer (101.7 v 93.9)..

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    It wouldn't be a bad value bet at all, but I wouldn't throw too much on the ML.  The points maybe.  I think you're gonna see a raucous Boston crowd tonight and, like we saw in ATL, that type of crowd can elevate the teams level of energy and adrenaline. 

    The Celts' defense plays much better at home giving up an average of 87.5 versus 93 on the road.. While their offense averages just over 100 at home or on the road.  Meanwhile the Hawks are giving up 100.4 on the road and scoring almost 8pts fewer (101.7 v 93.9)..

    BOL


     
     
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    Posted: Apr. 30, 2008 - 12:23 PM ET #25

    You cannot base 2 wins on home crowd alone....For Boston to be favored by 14 is crazy...they may very well be a great team...however a huge line like that for a playoff game makes a strong point to take the +14 since it is the PLAYOFFS and games swing at the drop of a hat....

    Cavs favored by 5 tonight...and it's Cleveland with crazy fans that love this team and hate Washington...so why wouldn't the cavs be favored by 8 or 9.  Same goes for Boston...they should absolutely be favored but I would think more along the lines of 8 or 9 1/2.
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    Cavs favored by 5 tonight...and it's Cleveland with crazy fans that love this team and hate Washington...so why wouldn't the cavs be favored by 8 or 9.  Same goes for Boston...they should absolutely be favored but I would think more along the lines of 8 or 9 1/2.
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