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    Understanding Mavs/Wolves game 4 line

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    Posted: May. 27, 2024 - 4:06 PM ET #1

    Folks, help me understand this. It's obvious by now the Mavs own the Wolves. Why is the line on game 4 not adjusting to it? opened -3, and now it's even down to -2. What is going on here? Isn't this brewing for a sweep? Mavs has just more powerful offense and Wolves just can't outscore these guys. What am I missing?

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    Folks, help me understand this. It's obvious by now the Mavs own the Wolves. Why is the line on game 4 not adjusting to it? opened -3, and now it's even down to -2. What is going on here? Isn't this brewing for a sweep? Mavs has just more powerful offense and Wolves just can't outscore these guys. What am I missing?

     
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    Posted: May. 27, 2024 - 4:09 PM ET #2

    A lot of people will chase the gentleman’s sweep or twolves “can’t” get sweeped, they beat the “best” team in the West

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    A lot of people will chase the gentleman’s sweep or twolves “can’t” get sweeped, they beat the “best” team in the West

     
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    Posted: May. 27, 2024 - 4:43 PM ET #3

    The lines stay pretty much the same, hence the over under lines, even though its been all overs they barely adjust 

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    The lines stay pretty much the same, hence the over under lines, even though its been all overs they barely adjust 

     
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    Posted: May. 27, 2024 - 4:46 PM ET #4

    Interesting:

    Since 1971 both Conferences have NEVER been swept. 

    I think Boston wins tonight…

    not sure about tomorrow 

     

    to win 1u unless noted
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    Interesting:

    Since 1971 both Conferences have NEVER been swept. 

    I think Boston wins tonight…

    not sure about tomorrow 

     

     
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    Posted: May. 27, 2024 - 4:48 PM ET #5

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     Baiting Dallas money and I’ve been on Dallas for the first 3 games 

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     Baiting Dallas money and I’ve been on Dallas for the first 3 games 

     
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    Posted: May. 27, 2024 - 4:51 PM ET #6

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     I think they win tonight. clover

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     I think they win tonight. clover

     
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    Posted: May. 27, 2024 - 5:10 PM ET #7

    People think Dallas can’t sweep 4-0

    why they need to adjust?

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    People think Dallas can’t sweep 4-0

    why they need to adjust?

     
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    Posted: May. 27, 2024 - 6:34 PM ET #8

    I think the reason is the fact that Dereck Lively is questionable. Lively has a +/- of +108 so he would be a HUGE loss if he doesn’t play. 

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    I think the reason is the fact that Dereck Lively is questionable. Lively has a +/- of +108 so he would be a HUGE loss if he doesn’t play. 

     
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    Posted: May. 27, 2024 - 9:23 PM ET #9

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     So vegas knows people will still bet on Wolves at this point because of the "Dallas can't sweep them" notion correct?

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     So vegas knows people will still bet on Wolves at this point because of the "Dallas can't sweep them" notion correct?

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tailer187:

    So vegas knows people will still bet on Wolves at this point because of the "Dallas can't sweep them" notion correct?

     

    Prior to Game 3 of this series was the last time the majority of the public still had faith that the T-Wolves wouldn't go down like this. But then we watched them lose again, for the 6th time in their last 8 games, and I think the majority of the public is now mentally shoveling dirt onto the T-Wolves' proverbial coffin. They see them now as a beaten team.

    Meanwhile the stock of the Luka/Kyrie Mavericks has never been higher. They've won 7 of their last 8 games, but let's not forget.....they did lose Game 4 at home to the Thunder. And they did lose Game 4 at home to the Clippers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tailer187:

    So vegas knows people will still bet on Wolves at this point because of the "Dallas can't sweep them" notion correct?

     

    Prior to Game 3 of this series was the last time the majority of the public still had faith that the T-Wolves wouldn't go down like this. But then we watched them lose again, for the 6th time in their last 8 games, and I think the majority of the public is now mentally shoveling dirt onto the T-Wolves' proverbial coffin. They see them now as a beaten team.

    Meanwhile the stock of the Luka/Kyrie Mavericks has never been higher. They've won 7 of their last 8 games, but let's not forget.....they did lose Game 4 at home to the Thunder. And they did lose Game 4 at home to the Clippers.

     
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     Wow the living legend my buddy bator! Sup brother?

    Didn't Mavs lose game 1 vs clippers and also vs OKC? but then stopped that vs Wolves? maybe they don't lose game 4 this time to change that as well?

    With Boston sweeping last night, maybe Dallas has the motivation to really finish it as well later? Do you lean Wolves brother?

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     Wow the living legend my buddy bator! Sup brother?

    Didn't Mavs lose game 1 vs clippers and also vs OKC? but then stopped that vs Wolves? maybe they don't lose game 4 this time to change that as well?

    With Boston sweeping last night, maybe Dallas has the motivation to really finish it as well later? Do you lean Wolves brother?

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tailer187:

    @MrBator    Didn't Mavs lose game 1 vs clippers and also vs OKC? but then stopped that vs Wolves? maybe they don't lose game 4 this time to change that as well?

     

    They sure did, and I think they were motivated at the outset of this series to not begin the 3rd round by falling behind again. But they lost both of their Game 4s when they held 2-1 series leads, and tonight there is even less urgency. 

    Hard to figure the T-Wolves these days. They were regarded as dominant and scary after they won and covered their first 6 playoff games, but then lost 3 games in a row for the first time this entire season. They repaired their reputation by beating the Nuggets by 45 points and then winning Game 7 on the road. But now they've let a lot of people down by again losing three times in a row with a majority of the public picking them to win each time. It's hard to still have confidence in them. I think they'll benefit tonight by no longer having the pressure on them of being expected to win. I think they can win this game, but if Doncic and Irving are gonna pour in another 66 points, oh well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tailer187:

    @MrBator    Didn't Mavs lose game 1 vs clippers and also vs OKC? but then stopped that vs Wolves? maybe they don't lose game 4 this time to change that as well?

     

    They sure did, and I think they were motivated at the outset of this series to not begin the 3rd round by falling behind again. But they lost both of their Game 4s when they held 2-1 series leads, and tonight there is even less urgency. 

    Hard to figure the T-Wolves these days. They were regarded as dominant and scary after they won and covered their first 6 playoff games, but then lost 3 games in a row for the first time this entire season. They repaired their reputation by beating the Nuggets by 45 points and then winning Game 7 on the road. But now they've let a lot of people down by again losing three times in a row with a majority of the public picking them to win each time. It's hard to still have confidence in them. I think they'll benefit tonight by no longer having the pressure on them of being expected to win. I think they can win this game, but if Doncic and Irving are gonna pour in another 66 points, oh well.

     
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    I’d guess we get my guy Foster on the whistle and in a close out potential game either Mavs suddenly forget how to score to extend series or Wolves go in vaca mode so under.

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    I’d guess we get my guy Foster on the whistle and in a close out potential game either Mavs suddenly forget how to score to extend series or Wolves go in vaca mode so under.

     
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    Wolfs are done! I would not trust them especially Clowns to have enough heart to win it they are happy they beat Denver,  Ant says they ain’t even panicking they ain’t desperate, he talks a lot but they just don’t have that hunger to win. They content getting paid millions, how about the coach he sits behind his staff never gets up just sits there like a old nag complaining never even gets up out his chair, Jason kid what’s this sweep

    Who let dogs out?
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    Wolfs are done! I would not trust them especially Clowns to have enough heart to win it they are happy they beat Denver,  Ant says they ain’t even panicking they ain’t desperate, he talks a lot but they just don’t have that hunger to win. They content getting paid millions, how about the coach he sits behind his staff never gets up just sits there like a old nag complaining never even gets up out his chair, Jason kid what’s this sweep

     
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    Posted: May. 28, 2024 - 11:20 AM ET #15

    Mavs -2 feels like a trap but this is a scary spot because many NBA teams also give up when they are down 0-3. 

    Pacers did the same thing down the stretch yesterday. They clearly didn't want to go back to Boston and get blown out so they wanted to start their vacation early. It's an unwritten rule in the NBA that once you go down 0-3 you let go of the rope. 

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    Mavs -2 feels like a trap but this is a scary spot because many NBA teams also give up when they are down 0-3. 

    Pacers did the same thing down the stretch yesterday. They clearly didn't want to go back to Boston and get blown out so they wanted to start their vacation early. It's an unwritten rule in the NBA that once you go down 0-3 you let go of the rope. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by LedZe:

    Mavs -2 feels like a trap but this is a scary spot because many NBA teams also give up when they are down 0-3.  Pacers did the same thing down the stretch yesterday. They clearly didn't want to go back to Boston and get blown out so they wanted to start their vacation early.

     

    That is not what happened. The Pacers wanted to win. They played hard all night, but in the final six minutes, the Celtics played jailhouse defense and the inexperienced Pacers couldn't escape the shackles. It was the same fate that befell them on Saturday night in another game in which they went all out for 48 minutes.

     

    And it's laughable to say that the Pacers didn't want to go back to Boston for a Game 5. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by LedZe:

    Mavs -2 feels like a trap but this is a scary spot because many NBA teams also give up when they are down 0-3.  Pacers did the same thing down the stretch yesterday. They clearly didn't want to go back to Boston and get blown out so they wanted to start their vacation early.

     

    That is not what happened. The Pacers wanted to win. They played hard all night, but in the final six minutes, the Celtics played jailhouse defense and the inexperienced Pacers couldn't escape the shackles. It was the same fate that befell them on Saturday night in another game in which they went all out for 48 minutes.

     

    And it's laughable to say that the Pacers didn't want to go back to Boston for a Game 5. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by LedZe:

    Mavs -2 feels like a trap but this is a scary spot because many NBA teams also give up when they are down 0-3.  Pacers did the same thing down the stretch yesterday. They clearly didn't want to go back to Boston and get blown out so they wanted to start their vacation early. It's an unwritten rule in the NBA that once you go down 0-3 you let go of the rope.

     

    What a silly thing to say. Is that what the Celtics did last year against the Heat? 

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    Quote Originally Posted by LedZe:

    Mavs -2 feels like a trap but this is a scary spot because many NBA teams also give up when they are down 0-3.  Pacers did the same thing down the stretch yesterday. They clearly didn't want to go back to Boston and get blown out so they wanted to start their vacation early. It's an unwritten rule in the NBA that once you go down 0-3 you let go of the rope.

     

    What a silly thing to say. Is that what the Celtics did last year against the Heat? 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by StraightWagers:

    I’d guess we get my guy Foster on the whistle and in a close out potential game either Mavs suddenly forget how to score to extend series or Wolves go in vaca mode so under.

    Scott "the extender" Foster is indeed the crew chief. Wolves win tonight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StraightWagers:

    I’d guess we get my guy Foster on the whistle and in a close out potential game either Mavs suddenly forget how to score to extend series or Wolves go in vaca mode so under.

    Scott "the extender" Foster is indeed the crew chief. Wolves win tonight.

     
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    Posted: May. 28, 2024 - 1:24 PM ET #19

    Lot of valid points in this thread and I think they all lead to Minnesota covering/winning.

    Also like the under. 

     

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    Lot of valid points in this thread and I think they all lead to Minnesota covering/winning.

    Also like the under. 

     

     
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    Posted: May. 28, 2024 - 1:35 PM ET #20

    Wolves will force a game 7. No way the NBA has 0 games till June 3rd.  It’s not happening. Wolves win Tonight. The series is going 6 maybe 7. Take the Wolves tonight. 

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    Wolves will force a game 7. No way the NBA has 0 games till June 3rd.  It’s not happening. Wolves win Tonight. The series is going 6 maybe 7. Take the Wolves tonight. 

     
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    Posted: May. 28, 2024 - 1:41 PM ET #21

    Quote Originally Posted by TD3:

    Wolves will force a game 7. No way the NBA has 0 games till June 3rd.  It’s not happening. Wolves win Tonight. The series is going 6 maybe 7. Take the Wolves tonight.

    Ha that would be awesome if Wolves force a game 7. I definitely don't see that personally. Win tonight I do expect. But damn man if they force a game 7 then I couldn't even imagine how many people would tune in to see if history can be made. 154-0. Not once has anyone came back down 3-0.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TD3:

    Wolves will force a game 7. No way the NBA has 0 games till June 3rd.  It’s not happening. Wolves win Tonight. The series is going 6 maybe 7. Take the Wolves tonight.

    Ha that would be awesome if Wolves force a game 7. I definitely don't see that personally. Win tonight I do expect. But damn man if they force a game 7 then I couldn't even imagine how many people would tune in to see if history can be made. 154-0. Not once has anyone came back down 3-0.

     
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    Posted: May. 28, 2024 - 3:04 PM ET #22

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     So we taking Minny tonight?

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     So we taking Minny tonight?

     
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    Posted: May. 28, 2024 - 3:14 PM ET #23

    @TD3

     Interesting take....guess we'll see.

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     Interesting take....guess we'll see.

     
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    Posted: May. 28, 2024 - 3:18 PM ET #24

    Quote Originally Posted by TD3:

    Wolves will force a game 7. No way the NBA has 0 games till June 3rd.

     

    June 6th, actually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TD3:

    Wolves will force a game 7. No way the NBA has 0 games till June 3rd.

     

    June 6th, actually.

     
     
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    Posted: May. 28, 2024 - 3:22 PM ET #25

    Quote Originally Posted by jdk1m:

    @MrBator  

    So we taking Minny tonight?

     

    Probably not, and probably not Dallas either. The under is what I'm considering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdk1m:

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    So we taking Minny tonight?

     

    Probably not, and probably not Dallas either. The under is what I'm considering.

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