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    Trae Young better than Doncic and better than Curry at the same age! Let the debate begin.

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    Posted: Jun. 6, 2021 - 9:43 PM ET #76

    Quote Originally Posted by davemsh:

    No comparison...Trae Young is NOT a good 3 point shooter...Dude is average if anything...Even FG%....Curry Is ELITE 3point shooting...Best shooter possibly ever...Trae Young is NOT a great Shooter..Stats back up..

    We're not comparing shooting though. Trae isn't a great shooter. Steph is the greatest shooter of all time imo. We're talking all around game at the age of 22. I don't think Trae will end up even close to Steph but at 22...

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    No comparison...Trae Young is NOT a good 3 point shooter...Dude is average if anything...Even FG%....Curry Is ELITE 3point shooting...Best shooter possibly ever...Trae Young is NOT a great Shooter..Stats back up..

    We're not comparing shooting though. Trae isn't a great shooter. Steph is the greatest shooter of all time imo. We're talking all around game at the age of 22. I don't think Trae will end up even close to Steph but at 22...

     
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    Posted: Jun. 6, 2021 - 9:50 PM ET #77

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Quote Originally Posted by davemsh: No comparison...Trae Young is NOT a good 3 point shooter...Dude is average if anything...Even FG%....Curry Is ELITE 3point shooting...Best shooter possibly ever...Trae Young is NOT a great Shooter..Stats back up.. We're not comparing shooting though. Trae isn't a great shooter. Steph is the greatest shooter of all time imo. We're talking all around game at the age of 22. I don't think Trae will end up even close to Steph but at 22...

     

    Unless Trae leads the Hawks to a title this playoffs..How do you compare who is better than the other than stats etc, which are FACTS?...Big deal he won a playoff series vs the Knicks.....Not all teams are built equally at the 3rd year of a players career or have the same identical players and coaching philosophy....Injuries derailed Curry early on with his sprained ankle...So does that automatically make Trae better...Meaningless thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Quote Originally Posted by davemsh: No comparison...Trae Young is NOT a good 3 point shooter...Dude is average if anything...Even FG%....Curry Is ELITE 3point shooting...Best shooter possibly ever...Trae Young is NOT a great Shooter..Stats back up.. We're not comparing shooting though. Trae isn't a great shooter. Steph is the greatest shooter of all time imo. We're talking all around game at the age of 22. I don't think Trae will end up even close to Steph but at 22...

     

    Unless Trae leads the Hawks to a title this playoffs..How do you compare who is better than the other than stats etc, which are FACTS?...Big deal he won a playoff series vs the Knicks.....Not all teams are built equally at the 3rd year of a players career or have the same identical players and coaching philosophy....Injuries derailed Curry early on with his sprained ankle...So does that automatically make Trae better...Meaningless thread.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 6, 2021 - 10:02 PM ET #78

    Quote Originally Posted by davemsh:

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by davemsh: No comparison...Trae Young is NOT a good 3 point shooter...Dude is average if anything...Even FG%....Curry Is ELITE 3point shooting...Best shooter possibly ever...Trae Young is NOT a great Shooter..Stats back up.. We're not comparing shooting though. Trae isn't a great shooter. Steph is the greatest shooter of all time imo. We're talking all around game at the age of 22. I don't think Trae will end up even close to Steph but at 22...   Unless Trae leads the Hawks to a title this playoffs..How do you compare who is better than the other than stats etc, which are FACTS?...Big deal he won a playoff series vs the Knicks.....Not all teams are built equally at the 3rd year of a players career or have the same identical players and coaching philosophy....Injuries derailed Curry early on with his sprained ankle...So does that automatically make Trae better...Meaningless thread.

    Dave, not comparing all-time. Just at the age of 22. Nobody even mentioned him winning a playoff series. We're purely comparing their game at the age of 22.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davemsh:

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by davemsh: No comparison...Trae Young is NOT a good 3 point shooter...Dude is average if anything...Even FG%....Curry Is ELITE 3point shooting...Best shooter possibly ever...Trae Young is NOT a great Shooter..Stats back up.. We're not comparing shooting though. Trae isn't a great shooter. Steph is the greatest shooter of all time imo. We're talking all around game at the age of 22. I don't think Trae will end up even close to Steph but at 22...   Unless Trae leads the Hawks to a title this playoffs..How do you compare who is better than the other than stats etc, which are FACTS?...Big deal he won a playoff series vs the Knicks.....Not all teams are built equally at the 3rd year of a players career or have the same identical players and coaching philosophy....Injuries derailed Curry early on with his sprained ankle...So does that automatically make Trae better...Meaningless thread.

    Dave, not comparing all-time. Just at the age of 22. Nobody even mentioned him winning a playoff series. We're purely comparing their game at the age of 22.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 6, 2021 - 10:09 PM ET #79

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Quote Originally Posted by davemsh: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by davemsh: No comparison...Trae Young is NOT a good 3 point shooter...Dude is average if anything...Even FG%....Curry Is ELITE 3point shooting...Best shooter possibly ever...Trae Young is NOT a great Shooter..Stats back up.. We're not comparing shooting though. Trae isn't a great shooter. Steph is the greatest shooter of all time imo. We're talking all around game at the age of 22. I don't think Trae will end up even close to Steph but at 22...   Unless Trae leads the Hawks to a title this playoffs..How do you compare who is better than the other than stats etc, which are FACTS?...Big deal he won a playoff series vs the Knicks.....Not all teams are built equally at the 3rd year of a players career or have the same identical players and coaching philosophy....Injuries derailed Curry early on with his sprained ankle...So does that automatically make Trae better...Meaningless thread. Dave, not comparing all-time. Just at the age of 22. Nobody even mentioned him winning a playoff series. We're purely comparing their game at the age of 22.

     

    Stu...Right..Thats what I posted Trae Young's FG & 3Point Shoot% in his NBA Career, which is 3 years...Steph's has a higher FG% & 3 Point FG% AFTER 3 YEARS.  I am NOT comparing Curry's career numbers...Not sure what the confusion is.  Trae Young is NOT efficient....Numbers do not lie... Yes he averages 28-29 but at 43% FG % and 34% 3Point %..It means he takes a lot of shots.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Quote Originally Posted by davemsh: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by davemsh: No comparison...Trae Young is NOT a good 3 point shooter...Dude is average if anything...Even FG%....Curry Is ELITE 3point shooting...Best shooter possibly ever...Trae Young is NOT a great Shooter..Stats back up.. We're not comparing shooting though. Trae isn't a great shooter. Steph is the greatest shooter of all time imo. We're talking all around game at the age of 22. I don't think Trae will end up even close to Steph but at 22...   Unless Trae leads the Hawks to a title this playoffs..How do you compare who is better than the other than stats etc, which are FACTS?...Big deal he won a playoff series vs the Knicks.....Not all teams are built equally at the 3rd year of a players career or have the same identical players and coaching philosophy....Injuries derailed Curry early on with his sprained ankle...So does that automatically make Trae better...Meaningless thread. Dave, not comparing all-time. Just at the age of 22. Nobody even mentioned him winning a playoff series. We're purely comparing their game at the age of 22.

     

    Stu...Right..Thats what I posted Trae Young's FG & 3Point Shoot% in his NBA Career, which is 3 years...Steph's has a higher FG% & 3 Point FG% AFTER 3 YEARS.  I am NOT comparing Curry's career numbers...Not sure what the confusion is.  Trae Young is NOT efficient....Numbers do not lie... Yes he averages 28-29 but at 43% FG % and 34% 3Point %..It means he takes a lot of shots.....

     
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    Posted: Jun. 6, 2021 - 10:09 PM ET #80

    Quote Originally Posted by begginerboy:

    Quote Originally Posted by davemsh: No comparison...Trae Young is NOT a good 3 point shooter...Dude is average if anything...Even FG%....Curry Is ELITE 3point shooting...Best shooter possibly ever...Trae Young is NOT a great Shooter..Stats back up.. Here comes another troll who has no idea what we are discussing.

    Why even start a thread asking for a debate if everyone who disagrees with you is just trolling. Ha

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    Quote Originally Posted by begginerboy:

    Quote Originally Posted by davemsh: No comparison...Trae Young is NOT a good 3 point shooter...Dude is average if anything...Even FG%....Curry Is ELITE 3point shooting...Best shooter possibly ever...Trae Young is NOT a great Shooter..Stats back up.. Here comes another troll who has no idea what we are discussing.

    Why even start a thread asking for a debate if everyone who disagrees with you is just trolling. Ha

     
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    Posted: Jun. 6, 2021 - 10:11 PM ET #81

    Young isn't better than Doncic lmao 

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    Young isn't better than Doncic lmao 

     
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    Posted: Jun. 6, 2021 - 10:14 PM ET #82

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    @ThrowDemDarts  Like I said, you clearly weren't watching games. That's why all you can do is point to shooting percentages. Look, i'm no fan of Trae Young. I disliked him in college. Steph is my all-time favorite player. I watched just about every minute of his long career. You're full of shit if you say the same. You keep saying, "If he had more attempts." Your whole argument is based on "if". I'm telling you he didn't get more attempts because he wasn't able to get his shots like that. He was a spot up jump shooter.Trae is somehow even stronger at this age. He's more athletic. He's better at finishing at the rim, which means he also shoots more FTs, flopping or not. He fouls less. Curry use to get whistled a ton. He still does. He has a waaaay better turnover to assist ratio. He is more of a true point as far as passing/facilitating. Curry shoots better. No shit. He's greatest shooter of all time. I can't believe i'm having this argument who probably hasn't seen as many Steph Curry games on TV as i've seen in person. I'm a diehard Warriors fan. I've seen almost every game of this man's career. You don't know what you're talking about. Trae Young will never be Steph but he's better at 22 (Steph's rookie year, his 3rd). And he had a better 3rd year.

    Lmao, shooting % is what makes Steph great. He's the most efficient and skilled offensive player that has ever played the game. He was pretty much the best shooter when he got in the NBA, didn't even need time to adjust. At age 22 he threw up a line of 48/44/93. If Trae was some lock down defender or magic johnson like distributor, maybe... but the shooting is the reason why Steph was a better player at 22. He was efficient and one of the best in the NBA. Trae is an inefficient shooter with below average defense. There is absolutely nothing that makes Trae a better player at 22 other than the fact he's great a drawing fouls. Trae Young has never been better than Steph at any age of his life, lmao. But keep on taking inefficient Trae over arguably the best offensive player to ever play the game. an_roll_laugh 

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    @ThrowDemDarts  Like I said, you clearly weren't watching games. That's why all you can do is point to shooting percentages. Look, i'm no fan of Trae Young. I disliked him in college. Steph is my all-time favorite player. I watched just about every minute of his long career. You're full of shit if you say the same. You keep saying, "If he had more attempts." Your whole argument is based on "if". I'm telling you he didn't get more attempts because he wasn't able to get his shots like that. He was a spot up jump shooter.Trae is somehow even stronger at this age. He's more athletic. He's better at finishing at the rim, which means he also shoots more FTs, flopping or not. He fouls less. Curry use to get whistled a ton. He still does. He has a waaaay better turnover to assist ratio. He is more of a true point as far as passing/facilitating. Curry shoots better. No shit. He's greatest shooter of all time. I can't believe i'm having this argument who probably hasn't seen as many Steph Curry games on TV as i've seen in person. I'm a diehard Warriors fan. I've seen almost every game of this man's career. You don't know what you're talking about. Trae Young will never be Steph but he's better at 22 (Steph's rookie year, his 3rd). And he had a better 3rd year.

    Lmao, shooting % is what makes Steph great. He's the most efficient and skilled offensive player that has ever played the game. He was pretty much the best shooter when he got in the NBA, didn't even need time to adjust. At age 22 he threw up a line of 48/44/93. If Trae was some lock down defender or magic johnson like distributor, maybe... but the shooting is the reason why Steph was a better player at 22. He was efficient and one of the best in the NBA. Trae is an inefficient shooter with below average defense. There is absolutely nothing that makes Trae a better player at 22 other than the fact he's great a drawing fouls. Trae Young has never been better than Steph at any age of his life, lmao. But keep on taking inefficient Trae over arguably the best offensive player to ever play the game. an_roll_laugh 

     
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    Posted: Jun. 6, 2021 - 10:16 PM ET #83

    Quote Originally Posted by davemsh:

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by davemsh: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by davemsh: No comparison...Trae Young is NOT a good 3 point shooter...Dude is average if anything...Even FG%....Curry Is ELITE 3point shooting...Best shooter possibly ever...Trae Young is NOT a great Shooter..Stats back up.. We're not comparing shooting though. Trae isn't a great shooter. Steph is the greatest shooter of all time imo. We're talking all around game at the age of 22. I don't think Trae will end up even close to Steph but at 22...   Unless Trae leads the Hawks to a title this playoffs..How do you compare who is better than the other than stats etc, which are FACTS?...Big deal he won a playoff series vs the Knicks.....Not all teams are built equally at the 3rd year of a players career or have the same identical players and coaching philosophy....Injuries derailed Curry early on with his sprained ankle...So does that automatically make Trae better...Meaningless thread. Dave, not comparing all-time. Just at the age of 22. Nobody even mentioned him winning a playoff series. We're purely comparing their game at the age of 22.   Stu...Right..Thats what I posted Trae Young's FG & 3Point Shoot% in his NBA Career, which is 3 years...Steph's has a higher FG% & 3 Point FG% AFTER 3 YEARS.  I am NOT comparing Curry's career numbers...Not sure what the confusion is.  Trae Young is NOT efficient....Numbers do not lie... Yes he averages 28-29 but at 43% FG % and 34% 3Point %..It means he takes a lot of shots.....

    Shooting percentage isn't everything though, dave. That's such a simplistic way to look at things. That's why I listed Anthony Morrow's numbers. That doesn't tell the story. It's just percentages. Jason Kapono probably had crazy 3 point percentage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by davemsh: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by davemsh: No comparison...Trae Young is NOT a good 3 point shooter...Dude is average if anything...Even FG%....Curry Is ELITE 3point shooting...Best shooter possibly ever...Trae Young is NOT a great Shooter..Stats back up.. We're not comparing shooting though. Trae isn't a great shooter. Steph is the greatest shooter of all time imo. We're talking all around game at the age of 22. I don't think Trae will end up even close to Steph but at 22...   Unless Trae leads the Hawks to a title this playoffs..How do you compare who is better than the other than stats etc, which are FACTS?...Big deal he won a playoff series vs the Knicks.....Not all teams are built equally at the 3rd year of a players career or have the same identical players and coaching philosophy....Injuries derailed Curry early on with his sprained ankle...So does that automatically make Trae better...Meaningless thread. Dave, not comparing all-time. Just at the age of 22. Nobody even mentioned him winning a playoff series. We're purely comparing their game at the age of 22.   Stu...Right..Thats what I posted Trae Young's FG & 3Point Shoot% in his NBA Career, which is 3 years...Steph's has a higher FG% & 3 Point FG% AFTER 3 YEARS.  I am NOT comparing Curry's career numbers...Not sure what the confusion is.  Trae Young is NOT efficient....Numbers do not lie... Yes he averages 28-29 but at 43% FG % and 34% 3Point %..It means he takes a lot of shots.....

    Shooting percentage isn't everything though, dave. That's such a simplistic way to look at things. That's why I listed Anthony Morrow's numbers. That doesn't tell the story. It's just percentages. Jason Kapono probably had crazy 3 point percentage.

     
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    Since you and BB are confused..

     

    Trae 1st 3 years:

    2018-2019..41.8% FG%...32.4% 3 Point FG%

    2019-2020..43.7% FG%...36.1% 3 Point FG%

    2020-2021..43.8% FG%...34.3% 3 Point FG%

     

     

    Curry 1st 3 years:

    2009-2010..46.2% FG%...43.7% 3 Point FG%

    2010-2011  48% FG%.....44.2% 3 Point FG%

    2011-2012  49% FG%.....45.5% 3 Point FG%

     

    Now imagine if Curry was the #1 Option on the Dubs....Also if he did not have ankle problems...Lots of variables....Curry way more efficient as a scorer...Look at that the 3 point FG% for the 1st 3 years of each player.

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    Since you and BB are confused..

     

    Trae 1st 3 years:

    2018-2019..41.8% FG%...32.4% 3 Point FG%

    2019-2020..43.7% FG%...36.1% 3 Point FG%

    2020-2021..43.8% FG%...34.3% 3 Point FG%

     

     

    Curry 1st 3 years:

    2009-2010..46.2% FG%...43.7% 3 Point FG%

    2010-2011  48% FG%.....44.2% 3 Point FG%

    2011-2012  49% FG%.....45.5% 3 Point FG%

     

    Now imagine if Curry was the #1 Option on the Dubs....Also if he did not have ankle problems...Lots of variables....Curry way more efficient as a scorer...Look at that the 3 point FG% for the 1st 3 years of each player.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Quote Originally Posted by davemsh: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by davemsh: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by davemsh: No comparison...Trae Young is NOT a good 3 point shooter...Dude is average if anything...Even FG%....Curry Is ELITE 3point shooting...Best shooter possibly ever...Trae Young is NOT a great Shooter..Stats back up.. We're not comparing shooting though. Trae isn't a great shooter. Steph is the greatest shooter of all time imo. We're talking all around game at the age of 22. I don't think Trae will end up even close to Steph but at 22...   Unless Trae leads the Hawks to a title this playoffs..How do you compare who is better than the other than stats etc, which are FACTS?...Big deal he won a playoff series vs the Knicks.....Not all teams are built equally at the 3rd year of a players career or have the same identical players and coaching philosophy....Injuries derailed Curry early on with his sprained ankle...So does that automatically make Trae better...Meaningless thread. Dave, not comparing all-time. Just at the age of 22. Nobody even mentioned him winning a playoff series. We're purely comparing their game at the age of 22.   Stu...Right..Thats what I posted Trae Young's FG & 3Point Shoot% in his NBA Career, which is 3 years...Steph's has a higher FG% & 3 Point FG% AFTER 3 YEARS.  I am NOT comparing Curry's career numbers...Not sure what the confusion is.  Trae Young is NOT efficient....Numbers do not lie... Yes he averages 28-29 but at 43% FG % and 34% 3Point %..It means he takes a lot of shots..... Shooting percentage isn't everything though, dave. That's such a simplistic way to look at things. That's why I listed Anthony Morrow's numbers. That doesn't tell the story. It's just percentages. Jason Kapono probably had crazy 3 point percentage.

    Than what are u comparing the 2 on than???

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    Quote Originally Posted by davemsh: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by davemsh: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by davemsh: No comparison...Trae Young is NOT a good 3 point shooter...Dude is average if anything...Even FG%....Curry Is ELITE 3point shooting...Best shooter possibly ever...Trae Young is NOT a great Shooter..Stats back up.. We're not comparing shooting though. Trae isn't a great shooter. Steph is the greatest shooter of all time imo. We're talking all around game at the age of 22. I don't think Trae will end up even close to Steph but at 22...   Unless Trae leads the Hawks to a title this playoffs..How do you compare who is better than the other than stats etc, which are FACTS?...Big deal he won a playoff series vs the Knicks.....Not all teams are built equally at the 3rd year of a players career or have the same identical players and coaching philosophy....Injuries derailed Curry early on with his sprained ankle...So does that automatically make Trae better...Meaningless thread. Dave, not comparing all-time. Just at the age of 22. Nobody even mentioned him winning a playoff series. We're purely comparing their game at the age of 22.   Stu...Right..Thats what I posted Trae Young's FG & 3Point Shoot% in his NBA Career, which is 3 years...Steph's has a higher FG% & 3 Point FG% AFTER 3 YEARS.  I am NOT comparing Curry's career numbers...Not sure what the confusion is.  Trae Young is NOT efficient....Numbers do not lie... Yes he averages 28-29 but at 43% FG % and 34% 3Point %..It means he takes a lot of shots..... Shooting percentage isn't everything though, dave. That's such a simplistic way to look at things. That's why I listed Anthony Morrow's numbers. That doesn't tell the story. It's just percentages. Jason Kapono probably had crazy 3 point percentage.

    Than what are u comparing the 2 on than???

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: @ThrowDemDarts  Like I said, you clearly weren't watching games. That's why all you can do is point to shooting percentages. Look, i'm no fan of Trae Young. I disliked him in college. Steph is my all-time favorite player. I watched just about every minute of his long career. You're full of shit if you say the same. You keep saying, "If he had more attempts." Your whole argument is based on "if". I'm telling you he didn't get more attempts because he wasn't able to get his shots like that. He was a spot up jump shooter.Trae is somehow even stronger at this age. He's more athletic. He's better at finishing at the rim, which means he also shoots more FTs, flopping or not. He fouls less. Curry use to get whistled a ton. He still does. He has a waaaay better turnover to assist ratio. He is more of a true point as far as passing/facilitating. Curry shoots better. No shit. He's greatest shooter of all time. I can't believe i'm having this argument who probably hasn't seen as many Steph Curry games on TV as i've seen in person. I'm a diehard Warriors fan. I've seen almost every game of this man's career. You don't know what you're talking about. Trae Young will never be Steph but he's better at 22 (Steph's rookie year, his 3rd). And he had a better 3rd year. Lmao, shooting % is what makes Steph great. He's the most efficient and skilled offensive player that has ever played the game. He was pretty much the best shooter when he got in the NBA, didn't even need time to adjust. At age 22 he threw up a line of 48/44/93. If Trae was some lock down defender or magic johnson like distributor, maybe... but the shooting is the reason why Steph was a better player at 22. He was efficient and one of the best in the NBA. Trae is an inefficient shooter with below average defense. There is absolutely nothing that makes Trae a better player at 22 other than the fact he's great a drawing fouls. Trae Young has never been better than Steph at any age of his life, lmao. But keep on taking inefficient Trae over arguably the best offensive player to ever play the game.

    Like I said, you clearly weren't watching Steph at 22. You started watching once the Warriors started getting good and now you're suffering from revisionist history. You're taking his percentages and extrapolating. That's not how it works. This is like arguing about the meaning of a book with a guy who has only read half the chapters. You weren't even watching Steph at 22. I can tell. You'll lie and say you were but I know it's bullshit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: @ThrowDemDarts  Like I said, you clearly weren't watching games. That's why all you can do is point to shooting percentages. Look, i'm no fan of Trae Young. I disliked him in college. Steph is my all-time favorite player. I watched just about every minute of his long career. You're full of shit if you say the same. You keep saying, "If he had more attempts." Your whole argument is based on "if". I'm telling you he didn't get more attempts because he wasn't able to get his shots like that. He was a spot up jump shooter.Trae is somehow even stronger at this age. He's more athletic. He's better at finishing at the rim, which means he also shoots more FTs, flopping or not. He fouls less. Curry use to get whistled a ton. He still does. He has a waaaay better turnover to assist ratio. He is more of a true point as far as passing/facilitating. Curry shoots better. No shit. He's greatest shooter of all time. I can't believe i'm having this argument who probably hasn't seen as many Steph Curry games on TV as i've seen in person. I'm a diehard Warriors fan. I've seen almost every game of this man's career. You don't know what you're talking about. Trae Young will never be Steph but he's better at 22 (Steph's rookie year, his 3rd). And he had a better 3rd year. Lmao, shooting % is what makes Steph great. He's the most efficient and skilled offensive player that has ever played the game. He was pretty much the best shooter when he got in the NBA, didn't even need time to adjust. At age 22 he threw up a line of 48/44/93. If Trae was some lock down defender or magic johnson like distributor, maybe... but the shooting is the reason why Steph was a better player at 22. He was efficient and one of the best in the NBA. Trae is an inefficient shooter with below average defense. There is absolutely nothing that makes Trae a better player at 22 other than the fact he's great a drawing fouls. Trae Young has never been better than Steph at any age of his life, lmao. But keep on taking inefficient Trae over arguably the best offensive player to ever play the game.

    Like I said, you clearly weren't watching Steph at 22. You started watching once the Warriors started getting good and now you're suffering from revisionist history. You're taking his percentages and extrapolating. That's not how it works. This is like arguing about the meaning of a book with a guy who has only read half the chapters. You weren't even watching Steph at 22. I can tell. You'll lie and say you were but I know it's bullshit.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Quote Originally Posted by ThrowDemDarts: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: @ThrowDemDarts  Like I said, you clearly weren't watching games. That's why all you can do is point to shooting percentages. Look, i'm no fan of Trae Young. I disliked him in college. Steph is my all-time favorite player. I watched just about every minute of his long career. You're full of shit if you say the same. You keep saying, "If he had more attempts." Your whole argument is based on "if". I'm telling you he didn't get more attempts because he wasn't able to get his shots like that. He was a spot up jump shooter.Trae is somehow even stronger at this age. He's more athletic. He's better at finishing at the rim, which means he also shoots more FTs, flopping or not. He fouls less. Curry use to get whistled a ton. He still does. He has a waaaay better turnover to assist ratio. He is more of a true point as far as passing/facilitating. Curry shoots better. No shit. He's greatest shooter of all time. I can't believe i'm having this argument who probably hasn't seen as many Steph Curry games on TV as i've seen in person. I'm a diehard Warriors fan. I've seen almost every game of this man's career. You don't know what you're talking about. Trae Young will never be Steph but he's better at 22 (Steph's rookie year, his 3rd). And he had a better 3rd year. Lmao, shooting % is what makes Steph great. He's the most efficient and skilled offensive player that has ever played the game. He was pretty much the best shooter when he got in the NBA, didn't even need time to adjust. At age 22 he threw up a line of 48/44/93. If Trae was some lock down defender or magic johnson like distributor, maybe... but the shooting is the reason why Steph was a better player at 22. He was efficient and one of the best in the NBA. Trae is an inefficient shooter with below average defense. There is absolutely nothing that makes Trae a better player at 22 other than the fact he's great a drawing fouls. Trae Young has never been better than Steph at any age of his life, lmao. But keep on taking inefficient Trae over arguably the best offensive player to ever play the game. Like I said, you clearly weren't watching Steph at 22. You started watching once the Warriors started getting good and now you're suffering from revisionist history. You're taking his percentages and extrapolating. That's not how it works. This is like arguing about the meaning of a book with a guy who has only read half the chapters. You weren't even watching Steph at 22. I can tell. You'll lie and say you were but I know it's bullshit.

     

    I am giving you my points..You can agree or disagree..Give me something other than Oh You have not watched Curry on his early yearsan_timeout....Like I mentioned...Too much variables..Not all teams created equally supporting cast..coaching ..injuries etc...in year 3 of each players career...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThrowDemDarts: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: @ThrowDemDarts  Like I said, you clearly weren't watching games. That's why all you can do is point to shooting percentages. Look, i'm no fan of Trae Young. I disliked him in college. Steph is my all-time favorite player. I watched just about every minute of his long career. You're full of shit if you say the same. You keep saying, "If he had more attempts." Your whole argument is based on "if". I'm telling you he didn't get more attempts because he wasn't able to get his shots like that. He was a spot up jump shooter.Trae is somehow even stronger at this age. He's more athletic. He's better at finishing at the rim, which means he also shoots more FTs, flopping or not. He fouls less. Curry use to get whistled a ton. He still does. He has a waaaay better turnover to assist ratio. He is more of a true point as far as passing/facilitating. Curry shoots better. No shit. He's greatest shooter of all time. I can't believe i'm having this argument who probably hasn't seen as many Steph Curry games on TV as i've seen in person. I'm a diehard Warriors fan. I've seen almost every game of this man's career. You don't know what you're talking about. Trae Young will never be Steph but he's better at 22 (Steph's rookie year, his 3rd). And he had a better 3rd year. Lmao, shooting % is what makes Steph great. He's the most efficient and skilled offensive player that has ever played the game. He was pretty much the best shooter when he got in the NBA, didn't even need time to adjust. At age 22 he threw up a line of 48/44/93. If Trae was some lock down defender or magic johnson like distributor, maybe... but the shooting is the reason why Steph was a better player at 22. He was efficient and one of the best in the NBA. Trae is an inefficient shooter with below average defense. There is absolutely nothing that makes Trae a better player at 22 other than the fact he's great a drawing fouls. Trae Young has never been better than Steph at any age of his life, lmao. But keep on taking inefficient Trae over arguably the best offensive player to ever play the game. Like I said, you clearly weren't watching Steph at 22. You started watching once the Warriors started getting good and now you're suffering from revisionist history. You're taking his percentages and extrapolating. That's not how it works. This is like arguing about the meaning of a book with a guy who has only read half the chapters. You weren't even watching Steph at 22. I can tell. You'll lie and say you were but I know it's bullshit.

     

    I am giving you my points..You can agree or disagree..Give me something other than Oh You have not watched Curry on his early yearsan_timeout....Like I mentioned...Too much variables..Not all teams created equally supporting cast..coaching ..injuries etc...in year 3 of each players career...

     
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    Its not like Curry was average 10PPG off those %...He was averaging about 18-19 PPG....He was not the primary scorer or #1 option for the Dubs early on..Unlike Trae is his 1st couple of years...Year 3 Curry had big time ankle problems, which limited him...

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    Its not like Curry was average 10PPG off those %...He was averaging about 18-19 PPG....He was not the primary scorer or #1 option for the Dubs early on..Unlike Trae is his 1st couple of years...Year 3 Curry had big time ankle problems, which limited him...

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Quote Originally Posted by ThrowDemDarts: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: @ThrowDemDarts  Like I said, you clearly weren't watching games. That's why all you can do is point to shooting percentages. Look, i'm no fan of Trae Young. I disliked him in college. Steph is my all-time favorite player. I watched just about every minute of his long career. You're full of shit if you say the same. You keep saying, "If he had more attempts." Your whole argument is based on "if". I'm telling you he didn't get more attempts because he wasn't able to get his shots like that. He was a spot up jump shooter.Trae is somehow even stronger at this age. He's more athletic. He's better at finishing at the rim, which means he also shoots more FTs, flopping or not. He fouls less. Curry use to get whistled a ton. He still does. He has a waaaay better turnover to assist ratio. He is more of a true point as far as passing/facilitating. Curry shoots better. No shit. He's greatest shooter of all time. I can't believe i'm having this argument who probably hasn't seen as many Steph Curry games on TV as i've seen in person. I'm a diehard Warriors fan. I've seen almost every game of this man's career. You don't know what you're talking about. Trae Young will never be Steph but he's better at 22 (Steph's rookie year, his 3rd). And he had a better 3rd year. Lmao, shooting % is what makes Steph great. He's the most efficient and skilled offensive player that has ever played the game. He was pretty much the best shooter when he got in the NBA, didn't even need time to adjust. At age 22 he threw up a line of 48/44/93. If Trae was some lock down defender or magic johnson like distributor, maybe... but the shooting is the reason why Steph was a better player at 22. He was efficient and one of the best in the NBA. Trae is an inefficient shooter with below average defense. There is absolutely nothing that makes Trae a better player at 22 other than the fact he's great a drawing fouls. Trae Young has never been better than Steph at any age of his life, lmao. But keep on taking inefficient Trae over arguably the best offensive player to ever play the game. Like I said, you clearly weren't watching Steph at 22. You started watching once the Warriors started getting good and now you're suffering from revisionist history. You're taking his percentages and extrapolating. That's not how it works. This is like arguing about the meaning of a book with a guy who has only read half the chapters. You weren't even watching Steph at 22. I can tell. You'll lie and say you were but I know it's bullshit.

    I watched him before he got to the Warriors and I watched Trae in college. I watched them both as rookies. Steph has been better at every age, lol. There is nothing that Trae does well enough to make him a better 22 year old than Steph was. Steph was an elite and efficient offensive player. Trae just has the ball a lot, takes tons of shots, and draws fouls. Give me Steph and his 44/48/93 shooting at age 22 over Trae Young any day. Only a crazy person would take Trae, ha ha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThrowDemDarts: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: @ThrowDemDarts  Like I said, you clearly weren't watching games. That's why all you can do is point to shooting percentages. Look, i'm no fan of Trae Young. I disliked him in college. Steph is my all-time favorite player. I watched just about every minute of his long career. You're full of shit if you say the same. You keep saying, "If he had more attempts." Your whole argument is based on "if". I'm telling you he didn't get more attempts because he wasn't able to get his shots like that. He was a spot up jump shooter.Trae is somehow even stronger at this age. He's more athletic. He's better at finishing at the rim, which means he also shoots more FTs, flopping or not. He fouls less. Curry use to get whistled a ton. He still does. He has a waaaay better turnover to assist ratio. He is more of a true point as far as passing/facilitating. Curry shoots better. No shit. He's greatest shooter of all time. I can't believe i'm having this argument who probably hasn't seen as many Steph Curry games on TV as i've seen in person. I'm a diehard Warriors fan. I've seen almost every game of this man's career. You don't know what you're talking about. Trae Young will never be Steph but he's better at 22 (Steph's rookie year, his 3rd). And he had a better 3rd year. Lmao, shooting % is what makes Steph great. He's the most efficient and skilled offensive player that has ever played the game. He was pretty much the best shooter when he got in the NBA, didn't even need time to adjust. At age 22 he threw up a line of 48/44/93. If Trae was some lock down defender or magic johnson like distributor, maybe... but the shooting is the reason why Steph was a better player at 22. He was efficient and one of the best in the NBA. Trae is an inefficient shooter with below average defense. There is absolutely nothing that makes Trae a better player at 22 other than the fact he's great a drawing fouls. Trae Young has never been better than Steph at any age of his life, lmao. But keep on taking inefficient Trae over arguably the best offensive player to ever play the game. Like I said, you clearly weren't watching Steph at 22. You started watching once the Warriors started getting good and now you're suffering from revisionist history. You're taking his percentages and extrapolating. That's not how it works. This is like arguing about the meaning of a book with a guy who has only read half the chapters. You weren't even watching Steph at 22. I can tell. You'll lie and say you were but I know it's bullshit.

    I watched him before he got to the Warriors and I watched Trae in college. I watched them both as rookies. Steph has been better at every age, lol. There is nothing that Trae does well enough to make him a better 22 year old than Steph was. Steph was an elite and efficient offensive player. Trae just has the ball a lot, takes tons of shots, and draws fouls. Give me Steph and his 44/48/93 shooting at age 22 over Trae Young any day. Only a crazy person would take Trae, ha ha.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by davemsh: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by davemsh: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by davemsh: No comparison...Trae Young is NOT a good 3 point shooter...Dude is average if anything...Even FG%....Curry Is ELITE 3point shooting...Best shooter possibly ever...Trae Young is NOT a great Shooter..Stats back up.. We're not comparing shooting though. Trae isn't a great shooter. Steph is the greatest shooter of all time imo. We're talking all around game at the age of 22. I don't think Trae will end up even close to Steph but at 22...   Unless Trae leads the Hawks to a title this playoffs..How do you compare who is better than the other than stats etc, which are FACTS?...Big deal he won a playoff series vs the Knicks.....Not all teams are built equally at the 3rd year of a players career or have the same identical players and coaching philosophy....Injuries derailed Curry early on with his sprained ankle...So does that automatically make Trae better...Meaningless thread. Dave, not comparing all-time. Just at the age of 22. Nobody even mentioned him winning a playoff series. We're purely comparing their game at the age of 22.   Stu...Right..Thats what I posted Trae Young's FG & 3Point Shoot% in his NBA Career, which is 3 years...Steph's has a higher FG% & 3 Point FG% AFTER 3 YEARS.  I am NOT comparing Curry's career numbers...Not sure what the confusion is.  Trae Young is NOT efficient....Numbers do not lie... Yes he averages 28-29 but at 43% FG % and 34% 3Point %..It means he takes a lot of shots..... Shooting percentage isn't everything though, dave. That's such a simplistic way to look at things. That's why I listed Anthony Morrow's numbers. That doesn't tell the story. It's just percentages. Jason Kapono probably had crazy 3 point percentage. Than what are u comparing the 2 on than???

    Actually breaking down their game at 22 because I was actually watching Steph at 22. Every game. I probably went to close to 30 games when he was 22. Watch all the rest on TV. Trae is a better ball handler at 22. A better passer/facilitator. These are all thinks Steph got goot at as his career pogressed. He wasn't good at them at 22. He's better at finishing at the rim. More explosive. Better assist to turnover ratio. He's not a pure shooter like Steph but at 22 he does EVERYTHING else better than Steph at 22. Steph wasn't even good at getting his own shot at 22. He was a zone buster. A spot up shooter. They're both defensive liabilities but Steph was even more so. Steph was super fucking grabby at 22. Constantly got whistled. Like I said, i'm a diehard Warriors fan. I was watching these games. You dudes weren't watching the Warriors when Steph was 22. You claim you were such big fans now. You guys are full of shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by davemsh: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by davemsh: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by davemsh: No comparison...Trae Young is NOT a good 3 point shooter...Dude is average if anything...Even FG%....Curry Is ELITE 3point shooting...Best shooter possibly ever...Trae Young is NOT a great Shooter..Stats back up.. We're not comparing shooting though. Trae isn't a great shooter. Steph is the greatest shooter of all time imo. We're talking all around game at the age of 22. I don't think Trae will end up even close to Steph but at 22...   Unless Trae leads the Hawks to a title this playoffs..How do you compare who is better than the other than stats etc, which are FACTS?...Big deal he won a playoff series vs the Knicks.....Not all teams are built equally at the 3rd year of a players career or have the same identical players and coaching philosophy....Injuries derailed Curry early on with his sprained ankle...So does that automatically make Trae better...Meaningless thread. Dave, not comparing all-time. Just at the age of 22. Nobody even mentioned him winning a playoff series. We're purely comparing their game at the age of 22.   Stu...Right..Thats what I posted Trae Young's FG & 3Point Shoot% in his NBA Career, which is 3 years...Steph's has a higher FG% & 3 Point FG% AFTER 3 YEARS.  I am NOT comparing Curry's career numbers...Not sure what the confusion is.  Trae Young is NOT efficient....Numbers do not lie... Yes he averages 28-29 but at 43% FG % and 34% 3Point %..It means he takes a lot of shots..... Shooting percentage isn't everything though, dave. That's such a simplistic way to look at things. That's why I listed Anthony Morrow's numbers. That doesn't tell the story. It's just percentages. Jason Kapono probably had crazy 3 point percentage. Than what are u comparing the 2 on than???

    Actually breaking down their game at 22 because I was actually watching Steph at 22. Every game. I probably went to close to 30 games when he was 22. Watch all the rest on TV. Trae is a better ball handler at 22. A better passer/facilitator. These are all thinks Steph got goot at as his career pogressed. He wasn't good at them at 22. He's better at finishing at the rim. More explosive. Better assist to turnover ratio. He's not a pure shooter like Steph but at 22 he does EVERYTHING else better than Steph at 22. Steph wasn't even good at getting his own shot at 22. He was a zone buster. A spot up shooter. They're both defensive liabilities but Steph was even more so. Steph was super fucking grabby at 22. Constantly got whistled. Like I said, i'm a diehard Warriors fan. I was watching these games. You dudes weren't watching the Warriors when Steph was 22. You claim you were such big fans now. You guys are full of shit.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Quote Originally Posted by davemsh: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by davemsh: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by davemsh: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by davemsh: No comparison...Trae Young is NOT a good 3 point shooter...Dude is average if anything...Even FG%....Curry Is ELITE 3point shooting...Best shooter possibly ever...Trae Young is NOT a great Shooter..Stats back up.. We're not comparing shooting though. Trae isn't a great shooter. Steph is the greatest shooter of all time imo. We're talking all around game at the age of 22. I don't think Trae will end up even close to Steph but at 22...   Unless Trae leads the Hawks to a title this playoffs..How do you compare who is better than the other than stats etc, which are FACTS?...Big deal he won a playoff series vs the Knicks.....Not all teams are built equally at the 3rd year of a players career or have the same identical players and coaching philosophy....Injuries derailed Curry early on with his sprained ankle...So does that automatically make Trae better...Meaningless thread. Dave, not comparing all-time. Just at the age of 22. Nobody even mentioned him winning a playoff series. We're purely comparing their game at the age of 22.   Stu...Right..Thats what I posted Trae Young's FG & 3Point Shoot% in his NBA Career, which is 3 years...Steph's has a higher FG% & 3 Point FG% AFTER 3 YEARS.  I am NOT comparing Curry's career numbers...Not sure what the confusion is.  Trae Young is NOT efficient....Numbers do not lie... Yes he averages 28-29 but at 43% FG % and 34% 3Point %..It means he takes a lot of shots..... Shooting percentage isn't everything though, dave. That's such a simplistic way to look at things. That's why I listed Anthony Morrow's numbers. That doesn't tell the story. It's just percentages. Jason Kapono probably had crazy 3 point percentage. Than what are u comparing the 2 on than??? Actually breaking down their game at 22 because I was actually watching Steph at 22. Every game. I probably went to close to 30 games when he was 22. Watch all the rest on TV. Trae is a better ball handler at 22. A better passer/facilitator. These are all thinks Steph got goot at as his career pogressed. He wasn't good at them at 22. He's better at finishing at the rim. More explosive. Better assist to turnover ratio. He's not a pure shooter like Steph but at 22 he does EVERYTHING else better than Steph at 22. Steph wasn't even good at getting his own shot at 22. He was a zone buster. A spot up shooter. They're both defensive liabilities but Steph was even more so. Steph was super fucking grabby at 22. Constantly got whistled. Like I said, i'm a diehard Warriors fan. I was watching these games. You dudes weren't watching the Warriors when Steph was 22. You claim you were such big fans now. You guys are full of shit.

    Lmfao!! Maybe you watched his games, but you obviously didn't know what you were watching. He was a better ball handler and much smoother offensive player in college than Trae Young. He didn't all of a sudden lose that in the NBA. At no age has Trae Young ever been a better basketball player than Steph Curry. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by davemsh: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by davemsh: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by davemsh: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by davemsh: No comparison...Trae Young is NOT a good 3 point shooter...Dude is average if anything...Even FG%....Curry Is ELITE 3point shooting...Best shooter possibly ever...Trae Young is NOT a great Shooter..Stats back up.. We're not comparing shooting though. Trae isn't a great shooter. Steph is the greatest shooter of all time imo. We're talking all around game at the age of 22. I don't think Trae will end up even close to Steph but at 22...   Unless Trae leads the Hawks to a title this playoffs..How do you compare who is better than the other than stats etc, which are FACTS?...Big deal he won a playoff series vs the Knicks.....Not all teams are built equally at the 3rd year of a players career or have the same identical players and coaching philosophy....Injuries derailed Curry early on with his sprained ankle...So does that automatically make Trae better...Meaningless thread. Dave, not comparing all-time. Just at the age of 22. Nobody even mentioned him winning a playoff series. We're purely comparing their game at the age of 22.   Stu...Right..Thats what I posted Trae Young's FG & 3Point Shoot% in his NBA Career, which is 3 years...Steph's has a higher FG% & 3 Point FG% AFTER 3 YEARS.  I am NOT comparing Curry's career numbers...Not sure what the confusion is.  Trae Young is NOT efficient....Numbers do not lie... Yes he averages 28-29 but at 43% FG % and 34% 3Point %..It means he takes a lot of shots..... Shooting percentage isn't everything though, dave. That's such a simplistic way to look at things. That's why I listed Anthony Morrow's numbers. That doesn't tell the story. It's just percentages. Jason Kapono probably had crazy 3 point percentage. Than what are u comparing the 2 on than??? Actually breaking down their game at 22 because I was actually watching Steph at 22. Every game. I probably went to close to 30 games when he was 22. Watch all the rest on TV. Trae is a better ball handler at 22. A better passer/facilitator. These are all thinks Steph got goot at as his career pogressed. He wasn't good at them at 22. He's better at finishing at the rim. More explosive. Better assist to turnover ratio. He's not a pure shooter like Steph but at 22 he does EVERYTHING else better than Steph at 22. Steph wasn't even good at getting his own shot at 22. He was a zone buster. A spot up shooter. They're both defensive liabilities but Steph was even more so. Steph was super fucking grabby at 22. Constantly got whistled. Like I said, i'm a diehard Warriors fan. I was watching these games. You dudes weren't watching the Warriors when Steph was 22. You claim you were such big fans now. You guys are full of shit.

    Lmfao!! Maybe you watched his games, but you obviously didn't know what you were watching. He was a better ball handler and much smoother offensive player in college than Trae Young. He didn't all of a sudden lose that in the NBA. At no age has Trae Young ever been a better basketball player than Steph Curry. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by ThrowDemDarts: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: @ThrowDemDarts  Like I said, you clearly weren't watching games. That's why all you can do is point to shooting percentages. Look, i'm no fan of Trae Young. I disliked him in college. Steph is my all-time favorite player. I watched just about every minute of his long career. You're full of shit if you say the same. You keep saying, "If he had more attempts." Your whole argument is based on "if". I'm telling you he didn't get more attempts because he wasn't able to get his shots like that. He was a spot up jump shooter.Trae is somehow even stronger at this age. He's more athletic. He's better at finishing at the rim, which means he also shoots more FTs, flopping or not. He fouls less. Curry use to get whistled a ton. He still does. He has a waaaay better turnover to assist ratio. He is more of a true point as far as passing/facilitating. Curry shoots better. No shit. He's greatest shooter of all time. I can't believe i'm having this argument who probably hasn't seen as many Steph Curry games on TV as i've seen in person. I'm a diehard Warriors fan. I've seen almost every game of this man's career. You don't know what you're talking about. Trae Young will never be Steph but he's better at 22 (Steph's rookie year, his 3rd). And he had a better 3rd year. Lmao, shooting % is what makes Steph great. He's the most efficient and skilled offensive player that has ever played the game. He was pretty much the best shooter when he got in the NBA, didn't even need time to adjust. At age 22 he threw up a line of 48/44/93. If Trae was some lock down defender or magic johnson like distributor, maybe... but the shooting is the reason why Steph was a better player at 22. He was efficient and one of the best in the NBA. Trae is an inefficient shooter with below average defense. There is absolutely nothing that makes Trae a better player at 22 other than the fact he's great a drawing fouls. Trae Young has never been better than Steph at any age of his life, lmao. But keep on taking inefficient Trae over arguably the best offensive player to ever play the game. Like I said, you clearly weren't watching Steph at 22. You started watching once the Warriors started getting good and now you're suffering from revisionist history. You're taking his percentages and extrapolating. That's not how it works. This is like arguing about the meaning of a book with a guy who has only read half the chapters. You weren't even watching Steph at 22. I can tell. You'll lie and say you were but I know it's bullshit. I watched him before he got to the Warriors and I watched Trae in college. I watched them both as rookies. Steph has been better at every age, lol. There is nothing that Trae does well enough to make him a better 22 year old than Steph was. Steph was an elite and efficient offensive player. Trae just has the ball a lot, takes tons of shots, and draws fouls. Give me Steph and his 44/48/93 shooting at age 22 over Trae Young any day. Only a crazy person would take Trae, ha ha.

    I never said I would take Trae. Like I said, Steph is my all-time favorite player. I don't think Trae will end up as good as Steph. I am not a Trae Young fan but he has a better game than Steph at the age of 22. Steph was a spot up shooter at 22. That's it. I actually watched the games. You just google searched shooting percentages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by ThrowDemDarts: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: @ThrowDemDarts  Like I said, you clearly weren't watching games. That's why all you can do is point to shooting percentages. Look, i'm no fan of Trae Young. I disliked him in college. Steph is my all-time favorite player. I watched just about every minute of his long career. You're full of shit if you say the same. You keep saying, "If he had more attempts." Your whole argument is based on "if". I'm telling you he didn't get more attempts because he wasn't able to get his shots like that. He was a spot up jump shooter.Trae is somehow even stronger at this age. He's more athletic. He's better at finishing at the rim, which means he also shoots more FTs, flopping or not. He fouls less. Curry use to get whistled a ton. He still does. He has a waaaay better turnover to assist ratio. He is more of a true point as far as passing/facilitating. Curry shoots better. No shit. He's greatest shooter of all time. I can't believe i'm having this argument who probably hasn't seen as many Steph Curry games on TV as i've seen in person. I'm a diehard Warriors fan. I've seen almost every game of this man's career. You don't know what you're talking about. Trae Young will never be Steph but he's better at 22 (Steph's rookie year, his 3rd). And he had a better 3rd year. Lmao, shooting % is what makes Steph great. He's the most efficient and skilled offensive player that has ever played the game. He was pretty much the best shooter when he got in the NBA, didn't even need time to adjust. At age 22 he threw up a line of 48/44/93. If Trae was some lock down defender or magic johnson like distributor, maybe... but the shooting is the reason why Steph was a better player at 22. He was efficient and one of the best in the NBA. Trae is an inefficient shooter with below average defense. There is absolutely nothing that makes Trae a better player at 22 other than the fact he's great a drawing fouls. Trae Young has never been better than Steph at any age of his life, lmao. But keep on taking inefficient Trae over arguably the best offensive player to ever play the game. Like I said, you clearly weren't watching Steph at 22. You started watching once the Warriors started getting good and now you're suffering from revisionist history. You're taking his percentages and extrapolating. That's not how it works. This is like arguing about the meaning of a book with a guy who has only read half the chapters. You weren't even watching Steph at 22. I can tell. You'll lie and say you were but I know it's bullshit. I watched him before he got to the Warriors and I watched Trae in college. I watched them both as rookies. Steph has been better at every age, lol. There is nothing that Trae does well enough to make him a better 22 year old than Steph was. Steph was an elite and efficient offensive player. Trae just has the ball a lot, takes tons of shots, and draws fouls. Give me Steph and his 44/48/93 shooting at age 22 over Trae Young any day. Only a crazy person would take Trae, ha ha.

    I never said I would take Trae. Like I said, Steph is my all-time favorite player. I don't think Trae will end up as good as Steph. I am not a Trae Young fan but he has a better game than Steph at the age of 22. Steph was a spot up shooter at 22. That's it. I actually watched the games. You just google searched shooting percentages.

     
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    LOL I watch the gamesnew_laugh_sweat..You must be an NBA scout?

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    LOL I watch the gamesnew_laugh_sweat..You must be an NBA scout?

     
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    I am providing you with Facts/Data to back my case...You provide me with "I watched his Games early on"....an_eek2

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    I am providing you with Facts/Data to back my case...You provide me with "I watched his Games early on"....an_eek2

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThrowDemDarts:

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by davemsh: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by davemsh: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by davemsh: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by davemsh: No comparison...Trae Young is NOT a good 3 point shooter...Dude is average if anything...Even FG%....Curry Is ELITE 3point shooting...Best shooter possibly ever...Trae Young is NOT a great Shooter..Stats back up.. We're not comparing shooting though. Trae isn't a great shooter. Steph is the greatest shooter of all time imo. We're talking all around game at the age of 22. I don't think Trae will end up even close to Steph but at 22...   Unless Trae leads the Hawks to a title this playoffs..How do you compare who is better than the other than stats etc, which are FACTS?...Big deal he won a playoff series vs the Knicks.....Not all teams are built equally at the 3rd year of a players career or have the same identical players and coaching philosophy....Injuries derailed Curry early on with his sprained ankle...So does that automatically make Trae better...Meaningless thread. Dave, not comparing all-time. Just at the age of 22. Nobody even mentioned him winning a playoff series. We're purely comparing their game at the age of 22.   Stu...Right..Thats what I posted Trae Young's FG & 3Point Shoot% in his NBA Career, which is 3 years...Steph's has a higher FG% & 3 Point FG% AFTER 3 YEARS.  I am NOT comparing Curry's career numbers...Not sure what the confusion is.  Trae Young is NOT efficient....Numbers do not lie... Yes he averages 28-29 but at 43% FG % and 34% 3Point %..It means he takes a lot of shots..... Shooting percentage isn't everything though, dave. That's such a simplistic way to look at things. That's why I listed Anthony Morrow's numbers. That doesn't tell the story. It's just percentages. Jason Kapono probably had crazy 3 point percentage. Than what are u comparing the 2 on than??? Actually breaking down their game at 22 because I was actually watching Steph at 22. Every game. I probably went to close to 30 games when he was 22. Watch all the rest on TV. Trae is a better ball handler at 22. A better passer/facilitator. These are all thinks Steph got goot at as his career pogressed. He wasn't good at them at 22. He's better at finishing at the rim. More explosive. Better assist to turnover ratio. He's not a pure shooter like Steph but at 22 he does EVERYTHING else better than Steph at 22. Steph wasn't even good at getting his own shot at 22. He was a zone buster. A spot up shooter. They're both defensive liabilities but Steph was even more so. Steph was super fucking grabby at 22. Constantly got whistled. Like I said, i'm a diehard Warriors fan. I was watching these games. You dudes weren't watching the Warriors when Steph was 22. You claim you were such big fans now. You guys are full of shit. Lmfao!! Maybe you watched his games, but you obviously didn't know what you were watching. He was a better ball handler and much smoother offensive player in college than Trae Young. He didn't all of a sudden lose that in the NBA. At no age has Trae Young ever been a better basketball player than Steph Curry.

    Again, he was not a better ball handler. I agree Steph was a better college player but his college game didn't transfer immediately to the pros. These are the things you don't know because you clearly weren't watching the Warriors when Steph was 22. You just google searched shooting percentages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by davemsh: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by davemsh: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by davemsh: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by davemsh: No comparison...Trae Young is NOT a good 3 point shooter...Dude is average if anything...Even FG%....Curry Is ELITE 3point shooting...Best shooter possibly ever...Trae Young is NOT a great Shooter..Stats back up.. We're not comparing shooting though. Trae isn't a great shooter. Steph is the greatest shooter of all time imo. We're talking all around game at the age of 22. I don't think Trae will end up even close to Steph but at 22...   Unless Trae leads the Hawks to a title this playoffs..How do you compare who is better than the other than stats etc, which are FACTS?...Big deal he won a playoff series vs the Knicks.....Not all teams are built equally at the 3rd year of a players career or have the same identical players and coaching philosophy....Injuries derailed Curry early on with his sprained ankle...So does that automatically make Trae better...Meaningless thread. Dave, not comparing all-time. Just at the age of 22. Nobody even mentioned him winning a playoff series. We're purely comparing their game at the age of 22.   Stu...Right..Thats what I posted Trae Young's FG & 3Point Shoot% in his NBA Career, which is 3 years...Steph's has a higher FG% & 3 Point FG% AFTER 3 YEARS.  I am NOT comparing Curry's career numbers...Not sure what the confusion is.  Trae Young is NOT efficient....Numbers do not lie... Yes he averages 28-29 but at 43% FG % and 34% 3Point %..It means he takes a lot of shots..... Shooting percentage isn't everything though, dave. That's such a simplistic way to look at things. That's why I listed Anthony Morrow's numbers. That doesn't tell the story. It's just percentages. Jason Kapono probably had crazy 3 point percentage. Than what are u comparing the 2 on than??? Actually breaking down their game at 22 because I was actually watching Steph at 22. Every game. I probably went to close to 30 games when he was 22. Watch all the rest on TV. Trae is a better ball handler at 22. A better passer/facilitator. These are all thinks Steph got goot at as his career pogressed. He wasn't good at them at 22. He's better at finishing at the rim. More explosive. Better assist to turnover ratio. He's not a pure shooter like Steph but at 22 he does EVERYTHING else better than Steph at 22. Steph wasn't even good at getting his own shot at 22. He was a zone buster. A spot up shooter. They're both defensive liabilities but Steph was even more so. Steph was super fucking grabby at 22. Constantly got whistled. Like I said, i'm a diehard Warriors fan. I was watching these games. You dudes weren't watching the Warriors when Steph was 22. You claim you were such big fans now. You guys are full of shit. Lmfao!! Maybe you watched his games, but you obviously didn't know what you were watching. He was a better ball handler and much smoother offensive player in college than Trae Young. He didn't all of a sudden lose that in the NBA. At no age has Trae Young ever been a better basketball player than Steph Curry.

    Again, he was not a better ball handler. I agree Steph was a better college player but his college game didn't transfer immediately to the pros. These are the things you don't know because you clearly weren't watching the Warriors when Steph was 22. You just google searched shooting percentages.

     
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    Ice Tray is such a polarizing player that many will find it hard to truly be objective about just how good he is...his attitude definitely rubs people the wrong way because he's openly cocky and arrogant...however now after his experience with MSG and getting a taste of Spike Lee, he's definitely playing up the heel character and will make tons of cash from this new persona moving forward...Steph was and always has been a likeable guy who never really did anything to piss people off...classic hero vs villian storyline between Curry and Young.

    i follow college hoops and have always been able to spot next level talent...the things Curry did in his final year at Davidson was the stuff of legends all season long, and his run in the tourney only solidified how good he was going to be at the next level, but no one could have predicted just how much he was going to revolutionize the game itself...however Young was mainly a ball hog and chucker practically half the games he played, and at times he would be completely invisible and a turnover machine...i thought he was going to be a total bust when drafted, and posted it multiple times on covers, especially because i knew exactly how good Doncic was from following euro hoops as closely as i did back then...but i underestimated just how soft the league was becoming, just how much of a 3pt shooting exhibition league the nba was turning into, and because of this i didn't account for Young's style to be as effective as how it has become...now, the guy's future is basically set in stone to be one of the leagues biggest showtime players and with this heel persona, people will line up to pay good money just for the opportunity to boo and troll his balding hair...this Hawks team is no joke

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    Ice Tray is such a polarizing player that many will find it hard to truly be objective about just how good he is...his attitude definitely rubs people the wrong way because he's openly cocky and arrogant...however now after his experience with MSG and getting a taste of Spike Lee, he's definitely playing up the heel character and will make tons of cash from this new persona moving forward...Steph was and always has been a likeable guy who never really did anything to piss people off...classic hero vs villian storyline between Curry and Young.

    i follow college hoops and have always been able to spot next level talent...the things Curry did in his final year at Davidson was the stuff of legends all season long, and his run in the tourney only solidified how good he was going to be at the next level, but no one could have predicted just how much he was going to revolutionize the game itself...however Young was mainly a ball hog and chucker practically half the games he played, and at times he would be completely invisible and a turnover machine...i thought he was going to be a total bust when drafted, and posted it multiple times on covers, especially because i knew exactly how good Doncic was from following euro hoops as closely as i did back then...but i underestimated just how soft the league was becoming, just how much of a 3pt shooting exhibition league the nba was turning into, and because of this i didn't account for Young's style to be as effective as how it has become...now, the guy's future is basically set in stone to be one of the leagues biggest showtime players and with this heel persona, people will line up to pay good money just for the opportunity to boo and troll his balding hair...this Hawks team is no joke

     
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    @StumpTownStu   I am providing you with Facts/Data to back my case...You provide me with "I watched his Games early on"....

    I gave you facts and data. Trae score more, has higher assists, better assist to turnover ratio. Steph is a better jump shooter. Trae actually gets his own shot. The problem is you guys started watching Steph when he was 26 and you're remembering that instead of what he was at 22. You claim you were watching him at 22 but i'm calling bullshit. If you really were watching him, every game, we wouldn't be having this conversation. All you can say is, "...but his shooting percentage." Shooting percentage doesn't tell the whole story.

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    @StumpTownStu   I am providing you with Facts/Data to back my case...You provide me with "I watched his Games early on"....

    I gave you facts and data. Trae score more, has higher assists, better assist to turnover ratio. Steph is a better jump shooter. Trae actually gets his own shot. The problem is you guys started watching Steph when he was 26 and you're remembering that instead of what he was at 22. You claim you were watching him at 22 but i'm calling bullshit. If you really were watching him, every game, we wouldn't be having this conversation. All you can say is, "...but his shooting percentage." Shooting percentage doesn't tell the whole story.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by davemsh:

    @StumpTownStu   I am providing you with Facts/Data to back my case...You provide me with "I watched his Games early on"....

    This statement just proves my point. Yes, I actually watched his games. You googled shooting percentages.

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    @StumpTownStu   I am providing you with Facts/Data to back my case...You provide me with "I watched his Games early on"....

    This statement just proves my point. Yes, I actually watched his games. You googled shooting percentages.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThrowDemDarts: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by davemsh: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by davemsh: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by davemsh: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by davemsh: No comparison...Trae Young is NOT a good 3 point shooter...Dude is average if anything...Even FG%....Curry Is ELITE 3point shooting...Best shooter possibly ever...Trae Young is NOT a great Shooter..Stats back up.. We're not comparing shooting though. Trae isn't a great shooter. Steph is the greatest shooter of all time imo. We're talking all around game at the age of 22. I don't think Trae will end up even close to Steph but at 22...   Unless Trae leads the Hawks to a title this playoffs..How do you compare who is better than the other than stats etc, which are FACTS?...Big deal he won a playoff series vs the Knicks.....Not all teams are built equally at the 3rd year of a players career or have the same identical players and coaching philosophy....Injuries derailed Curry early on with his sprained ankle...So does that automatically make Trae better...Meaningless thread. Dave, not comparing all-time. Just at the age of 22. Nobody even mentioned him winning a playoff series. We're purely comparing their game at the age of 22.   Stu...Right..Thats what I posted Trae Young's FG & 3Point Shoot% in his NBA Career, which is 3 years...Steph's has a higher FG% & 3 Point FG% AFTER 3 YEARS.  I am NOT comparing Curry's career numbers...Not sure what the confusion is.  Trae Young is NOT efficient....Numbers do not lie... Yes he averages 28-29 but at 43% FG % and 34% 3Point %..It means he takes a lot of shots..... Shooting percentage isn't everything though, dave. That's such a simplistic way to look at things. That's why I listed Anthony Morrow's numbers. That doesn't tell the story. It's just percentages. Jason Kapono probably had crazy 3 point percentage. Than what are u comparing the 2 on than??? Actually breaking down their game at 22 because I was actually watching Steph at 22. Every game. I probably went to close to 30 games when he was 22. Watch all the rest on TV. Trae is a better ball handler at 22. A better passer/facilitator. These are all thinks Steph got goot at as his career pogressed. He wasn't good at them at 22. He's better at finishing at the rim. More explosive. Better assist to turnover ratio. He's not a pure shooter like Steph but at 22 he does EVERYTHING else better than Steph at 22. Steph wasn't even good at getting his own shot at 22. He was a zone buster. A spot up shooter. They're both defensive liabilities but Steph was even more so. Steph was super fucking grabby at 22. Constantly got whistled. Like I said, i'm a diehard Warriors fan. I was watching these games. You dudes weren't watching the Warriors when Steph was 22. You claim you were such big fans now. Again, he was not a better ball handler. I agree Steph was a better college player but his college game didn't transfer immediately to the pros. These are the things you don't know because you clearly weren't watching the Warriors when Steph was 22. You just google searched shooting percentages.

    ha ha… he did not just stop being a better ball handler and offensive player in the pros. He was always a better ball handler, better shooter, and smoother on the offensive side. There is nothing that Trae does well enough to make up for the difference in efficiency with Steph. I have no clue what you were watching or maybe you just don’t understand. I don’t know what to tell you other than you saying the Hawks would be worse with a 22 year old Steph is one of the dumber basketball takes I’ve heard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThrowDemDarts: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by davemsh: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by davemsh: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by davemsh: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by davemsh: No comparison...Trae Young is NOT a good 3 point shooter...Dude is average if anything...Even FG%....Curry Is ELITE 3point shooting...Best shooter possibly ever...Trae Young is NOT a great Shooter..Stats back up.. We're not comparing shooting though. Trae isn't a great shooter. Steph is the greatest shooter of all time imo. We're talking all around game at the age of 22. I don't think Trae will end up even close to Steph but at 22...   Unless Trae leads the Hawks to a title this playoffs..How do you compare who is better than the other than stats etc, which are FACTS?...Big deal he won a playoff series vs the Knicks.....Not all teams are built equally at the 3rd year of a players career or have the same identical players and coaching philosophy....Injuries derailed Curry early on with his sprained ankle...So does that automatically make Trae better...Meaningless thread. Dave, not comparing all-time. Just at the age of 22. Nobody even mentioned him winning a playoff series. We're purely comparing their game at the age of 22.   Stu...Right..Thats what I posted Trae Young's FG & 3Point Shoot% in his NBA Career, which is 3 years...Steph's has a higher FG% & 3 Point FG% AFTER 3 YEARS.  I am NOT comparing Curry's career numbers...Not sure what the confusion is.  Trae Young is NOT efficient....Numbers do not lie... Yes he averages 28-29 but at 43% FG % and 34% 3Point %..It means he takes a lot of shots..... Shooting percentage isn't everything though, dave. That's such a simplistic way to look at things. That's why I listed Anthony Morrow's numbers. That doesn't tell the story. It's just percentages. Jason Kapono probably had crazy 3 point percentage. Than what are u comparing the 2 on than??? Actually breaking down their game at 22 because I was actually watching Steph at 22. Every game. I probably went to close to 30 games when he was 22. Watch all the rest on TV. Trae is a better ball handler at 22. A better passer/facilitator. These are all thinks Steph got goot at as his career pogressed. He wasn't good at them at 22. He's better at finishing at the rim. More explosive. Better assist to turnover ratio. He's not a pure shooter like Steph but at 22 he does EVERYTHING else better than Steph at 22. Steph wasn't even good at getting his own shot at 22. He was a zone buster. A spot up shooter. They're both defensive liabilities but Steph was even more so. Steph was super fucking grabby at 22. Constantly got whistled. Like I said, i'm a diehard Warriors fan. I was watching these games. You dudes weren't watching the Warriors when Steph was 22. You claim you were such big fans now. Again, he was not a better ball handler. I agree Steph was a better college player but his college game didn't transfer immediately to the pros. These are the things you don't know because you clearly weren't watching the Warriors when Steph was 22. You just google searched shooting percentages.

    ha ha… he did not just stop being a better ball handler and offensive player in the pros. He was always a better ball handler, better shooter, and smoother on the offensive side. There is nothing that Trae does well enough to make up for the difference in efficiency with Steph. I have no clue what you were watching or maybe you just don’t understand. I don’t know what to tell you other than you saying the Hawks would be worse with a 22 year old Steph is one of the dumber basketball takes I’ve heard.

     
     
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    Posted: Jun. 6, 2021 - 11:02 PM ET #100

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    Quote Originally Posted by davemsh: @StumpTownStu   I am providing you with Facts/Data to back my case...You provide me with "I watched his Games early on".... I gave you facts and data. Trae score more, has higher assists, better assist to turnover ratio. Steph is a better jump shooter. Trae actually gets his own shot. The problem is you guys started watching Steph when he was 26 and you're remembering that instead of what he was at 22. You claim you were watching him at 22 but i'm calling bullshit. If you really were watching him, every game, we wouldn't be having this conversation. All you can say is, "...but his shooting percentage." Shooting percentage doesn't tell the whole story.

     

    Trae is not Efficient...He scores more? what is his FG% that I pointed out???? He is not efficient..When u have the green light to take all the shot and be the #1 guy ofcourse you are going to score...

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    Quote Originally Posted by davemsh: @StumpTownStu   I am providing you with Facts/Data to back my case...You provide me with "I watched his Games early on".... I gave you facts and data. Trae score more, has higher assists, better assist to turnover ratio. Steph is a better jump shooter. Trae actually gets his own shot. The problem is you guys started watching Steph when he was 26 and you're remembering that instead of what he was at 22. You claim you were watching him at 22 but i'm calling bullshit. If you really were watching him, every game, we wouldn't be having this conversation. All you can say is, "...but his shooting percentage." Shooting percentage doesn't tell the whole story.

     

    Trae is not Efficient...He scores more? what is his FG% that I pointed out???? He is not efficient..When u have the green light to take all the shot and be the #1 guy ofcourse you are going to score...

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