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    The Spurs at the Magic on Wednesday night

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    This is an interesting matchup on the big Wednesday night card despite the fact that we're looking at two mediocre teams.  You can't get much more mediocre than the Spurs at 16-15 and the Magic at 14-15.  For a very long time, the Spurs were something special in the NBA.  They're not anymore, but as long as Gregg Popovich is coaching them, they'll always be respected.  Respect, however, is a term the Orlando Magic are not familiar with.  Yes, they're respected by many teams they've tangled with so far this season, but when it comes to NBA fans and the media, I don't think any team in the league receives less attention than these guys.

    The Magic just returned to Orlando from a 5-day 4-night all expenses paid trip to Mexico City where they played a couple of games in front of more than 20,000 people each night, many of whom were rooting for the Magic's opponents, the Bulls and the Jazz.  The Magic defeated them both to lift themselves within a game of .500.  Prior to that the Magic had quietly been playing very well at home, and that's what I want to look at first.

    Early on in the season, the Magic suffered a couple of humiliating home losses, getting shredded by the Hornets 120-88 and then two weeks later by the Clippers 120-95.  They stood at 4-7 and 2-5 at home when they hosted the Wizards on November 9th.  The Magic won 117-108.  The following week, they scored their biggest home win of the season to date, beating the Sixers 111-106 as 5.5-point home dogs.  Three days later, they topped themselves, dominating the Lakers 130-117.  The Magic kept the good times going with a 131-117 home win over the Knicks.  The homestand ended on a disappointing note, however, when the Raptors came to town and barely escaped with a 93-91 win, winning the game on a tie-breaking shot with less than one second left.  The Magic covered easily, though, as 7-point home dogs.

    Following a 6-game road trip, the Magic returned to Orlando on December 5th to face Denver, who were on a 6-game winning streak.  The game proved to be a struggle for the Nuggets but they pulled it out in overtime, 124-118, to keep their streak going.  After the game, Jamal Murray, who led the Nuggets with 31 points, said "We didn't play our best, but they played really good.  They had a great game, and they're a really underrated team, especially at home."

    Two days later, the Magic finally had a bad game at home when they got drilled by the Pacers 112-90.  Tonight will be their first home game at Amway Center since that poor effort.


    The Spurs just concluded a successful 5-1 homestand, but prior to that they'd dumped 9 of their last 11 on the road.  Among all those losses were some truly gruesome performances, losing by 34 in Utah, by 39 in Minnesota, and they even lost by 20 in Phoenix just two weeks after having won by 30 in Phoenix.  Weird, right?  So even though the Spurs have been playing well of late, do they, with their crappy 4-10 road record, deserve to be pick 'em in Orlando against this Magic team that's looked very impressive in 8 of their last 9 home games?  I say they don't.

    A couple more things.  The Magic visited the Spurs down in San Antonio a month and a half ago and humiliated them.  The Magic led by 10 at the end of one, by 9 at the half, and then it started to get ugly.  The Magic built their lead to 105-79 with nine minutes left before the Spurs began a comeback that was too little, too late.  The Magic won 117-110.  Less than two weeks into last season, the Magic blew the Spurs out in Orlando 114-87.  Five months later, the Spurs returned the favor in Texas, winning 108-72.  The season before that, the Magic pulled a 95-83 upset in San Antonio, but later in the season the Spurs got revenge with a crushing 107-79 win at the Amway Center.  This little recent pattern of exchanging blowout wins had me thinking that maybe it's the Spurs turn to embarrass the Magic.  After thinking it over, I decided "No, it isn't."  I think the Magic are aware of recent meetings with the Spurs and proof of this is them talking about finally sweeping the Spurs in the season series.  This hasn't happened since the last time the Magic made it to the Finals in the 2008-09 season.

    Another thing that had me hesitating on this call is wondering if the Spurs, well aware that they were horrible on the road prior to the 5-1 homestand, might be focused on turning things around on the road.  But then I looked at their schedule and saw that they aren't beginning a road trip here.  They're playing this lone game in central Florida and then heading right back home to host the T-Wolves on Friday, a team that dealt them their worst loss of the season (128-89) three weeks ago.  Hmm...

    Lastly, back to the Magic.  As I mentioned at the beginning of this writeup, they're returning home one game under .500.  I think we can all agree that teams are usually extra motivated to win when they have a chance to shed their losing record, especially when they feel that they're better than what their record says they are.  Following the wins in Mexico, where they held the Bulls to 91 and the Jazz to 89, Magic forward Jonathan Isaac said "I think it's been like that a couple times this year - more than just these last two games - where our defense helped us stick around while our offense was struggling.  Absolutely, I think we've done a great job defensively and there's still so much room for improvement." 

    Sounds to me like at least some of the Magic players believe they're better than what their record says they are.  Those wins in Mexico, incidentally, counted as home games for the Magic, who sacrificed a pair of Amway Center dates to "host" the games at Arena Ciudad de Mexico.  The two wins brought their home record to 8-8, so not only do the Magic have an opportunity tonight to ditch their 14-15 losing record, they can also gain a winning record at home, and I think they deserve one.


    I haven't placed a bet yet, so if anyone has any supporting or counter arguments, let's hear them.  Chances are very good, though, that I'll be backing this overlooked Orlando team when they take the floor tonight against these old nag Spurs.



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    This is an interesting matchup on the big Wednesday night card despite the fact that we're looking at two mediocre teams.  You can't get much more mediocre than the Spurs at 16-15 and the Magic at 14-15.  For a very long time, the Spurs were something special in the NBA.  They're not anymore, but as long as Gregg Popovich is coaching them, they'll always be respected.  Respect, however, is a term the Orlando Magic are not familiar with.  Yes, they're respected by many teams they've tangled with so far this season, but when it comes to NBA fans and the media, I don't think any team in the league receives less attention than these guys.

    The Magic just returned to Orlando from a 5-day 4-night all expenses paid trip to Mexico City where they played a couple of games in front of more than 20,000 people each night, many of whom were rooting for the Magic's opponents, the Bulls and the Jazz.  The Magic defeated them both to lift themselves within a game of .500.  Prior to that the Magic had quietly been playing very well at home, and that's what I want to look at first.

    Early on in the season, the Magic suffered a couple of humiliating home losses, getting shredded by the Hornets 120-88 and then two weeks later by the Clippers 120-95.  They stood at 4-7 and 2-5 at home when they hosted the Wizards on November 9th.  The Magic won 117-108.  The following week, they scored their biggest home win of the season to date, beating the Sixers 111-106 as 5.5-point home dogs.  Three days later, they topped themselves, dominating the Lakers 130-117.  The Magic kept the good times going with a 131-117 home win over the Knicks.  The homestand ended on a disappointing note, however, when the Raptors came to town and barely escaped with a 93-91 win, winning the game on a tie-breaking shot with less than one second left.  The Magic covered easily, though, as 7-point home dogs.

    Following a 6-game road trip, the Magic returned to Orlando on December 5th to face Denver, who were on a 6-game winning streak.  The game proved to be a struggle for the Nuggets but they pulled it out in overtime, 124-118, to keep their streak going.  After the game, Jamal Murray, who led the Nuggets with 31 points, said "We didn't play our best, but they played really good.  They had a great game, and they're a really underrated team, especially at home."

    Two days later, the Magic finally had a bad game at home when they got drilled by the Pacers 112-90.  Tonight will be their first home game at Amway Center since that poor effort.


    The Spurs just concluded a successful 5-1 homestand, but prior to that they'd dumped 9 of their last 11 on the road.  Among all those losses were some truly gruesome performances, losing by 34 in Utah, by 39 in Minnesota, and they even lost by 20 in Phoenix just two weeks after having won by 30 in Phoenix.  Weird, right?  So even though the Spurs have been playing well of late, do they, with their crappy 4-10 road record, deserve to be pick 'em in Orlando against this Magic team that's looked very impressive in 8 of their last 9 home games?  I say they don't.

    A couple more things.  The Magic visited the Spurs down in San Antonio a month and a half ago and humiliated them.  The Magic led by 10 at the end of one, by 9 at the half, and then it started to get ugly.  The Magic built their lead to 105-79 with nine minutes left before the Spurs began a comeback that was too little, too late.  The Magic won 117-110.  Less than two weeks into last season, the Magic blew the Spurs out in Orlando 114-87.  Five months later, the Spurs returned the favor in Texas, winning 108-72.  The season before that, the Magic pulled a 95-83 upset in San Antonio, but later in the season the Spurs got revenge with a crushing 107-79 win at the Amway Center.  This little recent pattern of exchanging blowout wins had me thinking that maybe it's the Spurs turn to embarrass the Magic.  After thinking it over, I decided "No, it isn't."  I think the Magic are aware of recent meetings with the Spurs and proof of this is them talking about finally sweeping the Spurs in the season series.  This hasn't happened since the last time the Magic made it to the Finals in the 2008-09 season.

    Another thing that had me hesitating on this call is wondering if the Spurs, well aware that they were horrible on the road prior to the 5-1 homestand, might be focused on turning things around on the road.  But then I looked at their schedule and saw that they aren't beginning a road trip here.  They're playing this lone game in central Florida and then heading right back home to host the T-Wolves on Friday, a team that dealt them their worst loss of the season (128-89) three weeks ago.  Hmm...

    Lastly, back to the Magic.  As I mentioned at the beginning of this writeup, they're returning home one game under .500.  I think we can all agree that teams are usually extra motivated to win when they have a chance to shed their losing record, especially when they feel that they're better than what their record says they are.  Following the wins in Mexico, where they held the Bulls to 91 and the Jazz to 89, Magic forward Jonathan Isaac said "I think it's been like that a couple times this year - more than just these last two games - where our defense helped us stick around while our offense was struggling.  Absolutely, I think we've done a great job defensively and there's still so much room for improvement." 

    Sounds to me like at least some of the Magic players believe they're better than what their record says they are.  Those wins in Mexico, incidentally, counted as home games for the Magic, who sacrificed a pair of Amway Center dates to "host" the games at Arena Ciudad de Mexico.  The two wins brought their home record to 8-8, so not only do the Magic have an opportunity tonight to ditch their 14-15 losing record, they can also gain a winning record at home, and I think they deserve one.


    I haven't placed a bet yet, so if anyone has any supporting or counter arguments, let's hear them.  Chances are very good, though, that I'll be backing this overlooked Orlando team when they take the floor tonight against these old nag Spurs.



     
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    Its like driving a brand new car! Thats some good insight! As always great to see you mr bator
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    I had a better writeup all typed up two days ago on the T-Wolves - 8 over the Kings but it all disappeared because of that reCapcha thing.  I'd been up all night and I was NOT re-typing that whole essay.  That's a shame, too, because the T-Wolves went out and dutifully followed my script.

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    I had a better writeup all typed up two days ago on the T-Wolves - 8 over the Kings but it all disappeared because of that reCapcha thing.  I'd been up all night and I was NOT re-typing that whole essay.  That's a shame, too, because the T-Wolves went out and dutifully followed my script.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrBator:


    I had a better writeup all typed up two days ago on the T-Wolves - 8 over the Kings but it all disappeared because of that reCapcha thing.  I'd been up all night and I was NOT re-typing that whole essay.  That's a shame, too, because the T-Wolves went out and dutifully followed my script.



    Write them on Word, Notepad or something else and then paste them here cause it's a waste of time sometimes when the forum bug.
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    I had a better writeup all typed up two days ago on the T-Wolves - 8 over the Kings but it all disappeared because of that reCapcha thing.  I'd been up all night and I was NOT re-typing that whole essay.  That's a shame, too, because the T-Wolves went out and dutifully followed my script.



    Write them on Word, Notepad or something else and then paste them here cause it's a waste of time sometimes when the forum bug.
     
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    Timberwolves was the easy bet in the world. hopefully magic can do the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrBator:

    Quote Originally Posted by GucciCapper:

    GucciCapper appreciates you MrBator.
    I had a better writeup all typed up two days ago on the T-Wolves - 8 over the Kings but it all disappeared because of that reCapcha thing.  I'd been up all night and I was NOT re-typing that whole essay.  That's a shame, too, because the T-Wolves went out and dutifully followed my script.
    I bet on Orlando. Another thing that is important to realize is that the magic are very young, athletic and very underrated defensive team. Steve Clifford has done a great job improving their defense and they have good personnel for switching onto guys. They're 7th in scoring defense. They're not great on offense but they get out and run when they can, and they score on lots of back door cuts and layups. I think they find a way to get it done, wouldn't be surprised if they win by double digits honestly. Strongest plays today are Orlando and Brooklyn IMO.

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    I had a better writeup all typed up two days ago on the T-Wolves - 8 over the Kings but it all disappeared because of that reCapcha thing.  I'd been up all night and I was NOT re-typing that whole essay.  That's a shame, too, because the T-Wolves went out and dutifully followed my script.
    I bet on Orlando. Another thing that is important to realize is that the magic are very young, athletic and very underrated defensive team. Steve Clifford has done a great job improving their defense and they have good personnel for switching onto guys. They're 7th in scoring defense. They're not great on offense but they get out and run when they can, and they score on lots of back door cuts and layups. I think they find a way to get it done, wouldn't be surprised if they win by double digits honestly. Strongest plays today are Orlando and Brooklyn IMO.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by NBAKiller21:

      Another thing that is important to realize is that the magic are very young, athletic and very underrated defensive team. Steve Clifford has done a great job improving their defense and they have good personnel for switching onto guys. They're 7th in scoring defense. They're not great on offense but they get out and run when they can, and they score on lots of back door cuts and layups. I think they find a way to get it done, wouldn't be surprised if they win by double digits honestly. Strongest plays today are Orlando and Brooklyn IMO.


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      Another thing that is important to realize is that the magic are very young, athletic and very underrated defensive team. Steve Clifford has done a great job improving their defense and they have good personnel for switching onto guys. They're 7th in scoring defense. They're not great on offense but they get out and run when they can, and they score on lots of back door cuts and layups. I think they find a way to get it done, wouldn't be surprised if they win by double digits honestly. Strongest plays today are Orlando and Brooklyn IMO.


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    When the legend talks of you listen, let’s get this W

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    The Legend has arrived and speaks. 

    Bow down and give respect to the Legeeeeend!  

    Thanks for your appearance MrBator. 
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    Posted: Dec. 19, 2018 - 7:29 AM ET #12

    Outstanding writeup. Spurs are favorites here because of their recent spark (won 5 of 6) and this team takes revenge seriously. 6-0 SU/6-0 ATS in revenge games this season (But 5 of those games at home). They are playing Popovich style basketball with defense. Orlando is defending as well. I am personally leaning UNDER.

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    Outstanding writeup. Spurs are favorites here because of their recent spark (won 5 of 6) and this team takes revenge seriously. 6-0 SU/6-0 ATS in revenge games this season (But 5 of those games at home). They are playing Popovich style basketball with defense. Orlando is defending as well. I am personally leaning UNDER.

    GL.

     

     
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    The Rockets are on a roll when playing at the Toyota Center, going 8-1 SU & 7-2 ATS since defeating the Pacers there on November 11th.  Throw out the November 28th game against the Mavericks in which Chris Paul was sidelined with a sore hamstring and that record improves to 8-0 SU & 7-1 ATS.  The lone non-cover happened on November 21st when the Rockets, laying 8.5 to the Pistons, watched a big fourth quarter lead evaporate under a hail of 3-pointers by Blake Griffin, which was kinda strange (he went 5-5 on those in the last five minutes of the game). 

    Coming in tonight to the Toyota Center are the lousy Wizards, who last night bowed to the lowly Hawks just two days after holding LeBron to 13 points and running circles around his Lakers.  The Wizards are a terrible 4-13 on the road this season with eight of those losses coming by 12 points or more, so we know they have what it takes to not cover tonight's spread.  The Wizards will also be playing their third game in four nights and the second of a back-to-back, a situation they haven't been in this season but a situation they found themselves in four times last season when they went 1-3 SU & ATS.

    The Wizards hosted the Rockets on November 26th and outlasted them 135-131 in overtime in another game in which Chris Paul did not play (the Rockets are 0-5 without him this season.  In that game, James Harden and Eric Gordon combined for an astounding 90 points!  The Wizards' backcourt of Wall and Beal countered with 68.  Harden's line of 54 points, 13 rebounds, and 8 assists was marred by his ELEVEN turnovers. 

    Last year the Wizards defeated the Rockets 121-103 in late December in D.C.  When the Rockets got their chance for payback late in the season, they didn't squander it, beating the Wizards 120-104.  I'm hoping the same scenario plays out this season, and I'll post my bet later on after I place it.

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    The Rockets are on a roll when playing at the Toyota Center, going 8-1 SU & 7-2 ATS since defeating the Pacers there on November 11th.  Throw out the November 28th game against the Mavericks in which Chris Paul was sidelined with a sore hamstring and that record improves to 8-0 SU & 7-1 ATS.  The lone non-cover happened on November 21st when the Rockets, laying 8.5 to the Pistons, watched a big fourth quarter lead evaporate under a hail of 3-pointers by Blake Griffin, which was kinda strange (he went 5-5 on those in the last five minutes of the game). 

    Coming in tonight to the Toyota Center are the lousy Wizards, who last night bowed to the lowly Hawks just two days after holding LeBron to 13 points and running circles around his Lakers.  The Wizards are a terrible 4-13 on the road this season with eight of those losses coming by 12 points or more, so we know they have what it takes to not cover tonight's spread.  The Wizards will also be playing their third game in four nights and the second of a back-to-back, a situation they haven't been in this season but a situation they found themselves in four times last season when they went 1-3 SU & ATS.

    The Wizards hosted the Rockets on November 26th and outlasted them 135-131 in overtime in another game in which Chris Paul did not play (the Rockets are 0-5 without him this season.  In that game, James Harden and Eric Gordon combined for an astounding 90 points!  The Wizards' backcourt of Wall and Beal countered with 68.  Harden's line of 54 points, 13 rebounds, and 8 assists was marred by his ELEVEN turnovers. 

    Last year the Wizards defeated the Rockets 121-103 in late December in D.C.  When the Rockets got their chance for payback late in the season, they didn't squander it, beating the Wizards 120-104.  I'm hoping the same scenario plays out this season, and I'll post my bet later on after I place it.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 19, 2018 - 7:51 AM ET #14

    The recapture is horrible. It's the main reason I don't write very often....


    I like Houston


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    I like Houston


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    Nice post Bator peace_5

    Mo Bamba is the real deal...Clifford is slowly bring this kid along to make sure he doesnt get overwhelmed like most rooks do and get tossed out there unprepared...they have been doing a great job bringing him into games when the opposing lineup has practically no one his size to guard him...hes the xfactor on Orlando moving forward...they are young and scrappy and full of defensive energy....they will compete mostly every night for 48min regardless of score...same cannot be said about the Spurs, their D is putrid, as is their overall play on the road...talent wise Spurs are thin everywhere expect Demar and Aldrige (who is quickly becoming a dinosaur in this modern nba)...Orlando or pass is indeed the correct play in this one according to The People's Champ win

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    Nice post Bator peace_5

    Mo Bamba is the real deal...Clifford is slowly bring this kid along to make sure he doesnt get overwhelmed like most rooks do and get tossed out there unprepared...they have been doing a great job bringing him into games when the opposing lineup has practically no one his size to guard him...hes the xfactor on Orlando moving forward...they are young and scrappy and full of defensive energy....they will compete mostly every night for 48min regardless of score...same cannot be said about the Spurs, their D is putrid, as is their overall play on the road...talent wise Spurs are thin everywhere expect Demar and Aldrige (who is quickly becoming a dinosaur in this modern nba)...Orlando or pass is indeed the correct play in this one according to The People's Champ win

     
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    Mr Bator just wanted to say thank you for the play on Minnie on Monday. Your comments on Houie led me to play them as well. That game was a little closer than the blowout with the wolves but a win none the less. Finished the week off as my best week in 30 years of doing this sheet. So thank you my man. The wife thanks you, the kids thank you. The book well 2 outta 3 ain’t bad  

    Spent a couple hours last night trying to find out how to reach out and say thank you. Learned about the bator rule in nfl so time wasn’t completly lost chasing your ghost. Even Left a message on the blue birdie but it looks like you haven’t been there since 2011 so there is a personal thank you if you happen to fire it up. 

    To my amazement I wake up to see your post, so to the rest of the friends in the forum.... I manifested this for us all. That’s my story and I’m sticking to it. SO, if the magic blow up in our faces I’ll take the hit on this one. The trolls can send their hate my way. HAH. 

    Anyway thanks again and I hope that seeing you post twice in a week is the start of a trend. Your info is greatly appreciated and needed for some of us sucks fools.

    Happy holidays to you and yours. 



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    Mr Bator just wanted to say thank you for the play on Minnie on Monday. Your comments on Houie led me to play them as well. That game was a little closer than the blowout with the wolves but a win none the less. Finished the week off as my best week in 30 years of doing this sheet. So thank you my man. The wife thanks you, the kids thank you. The book well 2 outta 3 ain’t bad  

    Spent a couple hours last night trying to find out how to reach out and say thank you. Learned about the bator rule in nfl so time wasn’t completly lost chasing your ghost. Even Left a message on the blue birdie but it looks like you haven’t been there since 2011 so there is a personal thank you if you happen to fire it up. 

    To my amazement I wake up to see your post, so to the rest of the friends in the forum.... I manifested this for us all. That’s my story and I’m sticking to it. SO, if the magic blow up in our faces I’ll take the hit on this one. The trolls can send their hate my way. HAH. 

    Anyway thanks again and I hope that seeing you post twice in a week is the start of a trend. Your info is greatly appreciated and needed for some of us sucks fools.

    Happy holidays to you and yours. 



     
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    Spurs are 10-3 revenging a loss vs opponent but only 4-10 in road games. Orlando will be waiting well rested and refreshed after a couple of wins Mexico. Against Utah, they had 22 turnovers but Utah shot terrible. I think the Spurs higher percentage shooting and less errors will be more than Orlando can handle in the final 4 minute. I'll be watching this game now. 
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    Spurs are 10-3 revenging a loss vs opponent but only 4-10 in road games. Orlando will be waiting well rested and refreshed after a couple of wins Mexico. Against Utah, they had 22 turnovers but Utah shot terrible. I think the Spurs higher percentage shooting and less errors will be more than Orlando can handle in the final 4 minute. I'll be watching this game now. 
     
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    I would take the over in this game. Not the spread

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    Posted: Dec. 19, 2018 - 11:08 AM ET #19

    I was on the Jazz moneyline +135 way back on October 19th on the night when Kevin Durant missed a potential game-winning jumper from the foul line that Jonas Jerebko tipped in at the buzzer (actually with three-tenths of a second left), prompting a wild celebration as the Social Justice Warriors mobbed their new teammate.  Jerebko, who played for the Jazz last season and was let go as a free agent, said after the game "My teammates knew this was a big game for me coming back here.  I wanted to win and told them I really wanted to win this one."  Hence the joy of the entire team when Jerebko wound up making a fantastic play to bail out Durant and win the game in pretty spectacular fashion against his former team. 

    That night wasn't the first time I'd put my trust in this Mitchell/Gobert/Ingles Utah team as home dogs and watched them give away a late lead and lose.  Actually, I'm not sure it wasn't the tenth time.  The Jazz led by as many as 16 points in the 3rd quarter and led 111-101 with just under nine minutes to play.  Anyways, after that stinging loss, I was done with the Jazz.  I haven't bet on them since, and I had no intention of even considering them today as the rematch with the champs looms later this evening.  But then I checked out their season schedule and couldn't help noticing something, and I'll leave it to you to weigh whether it means anything. 

    On November 23rd, Donovan Mitchell bruised his ribs at the Staples Center in the 2nd quarter of a game against the Lakers after playing only twelve minutes.  The Jazz were feeble offensively without him and lost 90-83.  Mitchell would miss the next two games, the second of which was a positively garish 121-94 home loss to the Pacers in which Utah allowed Indiana to shoot 58%.  Mitchell would return in their next game in Brooklyn where led the Jazz to a come from behind win by scoring 29 points.  Since he returned to the lineup, the Jazz have played three games at Vivint Smart Home Arena and won by scores of 139-105, 118-91, and 111-84.  Humph.  How am I supposed to ignore that?  Crap, I think I have to take these guys again.

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    I was on the Jazz moneyline +135 way back on October 19th on the night when Kevin Durant missed a potential game-winning jumper from the foul line that Jonas Jerebko tipped in at the buzzer (actually with three-tenths of a second left), prompting a wild celebration as the Social Justice Warriors mobbed their new teammate.  Jerebko, who played for the Jazz last season and was let go as a free agent, said after the game "My teammates knew this was a big game for me coming back here.  I wanted to win and told them I really wanted to win this one."  Hence the joy of the entire team when Jerebko wound up making a fantastic play to bail out Durant and win the game in pretty spectacular fashion against his former team. 

    That night wasn't the first time I'd put my trust in this Mitchell/Gobert/Ingles Utah team as home dogs and watched them give away a late lead and lose.  Actually, I'm not sure it wasn't the tenth time.  The Jazz led by as many as 16 points in the 3rd quarter and led 111-101 with just under nine minutes to play.  Anyways, after that stinging loss, I was done with the Jazz.  I haven't bet on them since, and I had no intention of even considering them today as the rematch with the champs looms later this evening.  But then I checked out their season schedule and couldn't help noticing something, and I'll leave it to you to weigh whether it means anything. 

    On November 23rd, Donovan Mitchell bruised his ribs at the Staples Center in the 2nd quarter of a game against the Lakers after playing only twelve minutes.  The Jazz were feeble offensively without him and lost 90-83.  Mitchell would miss the next two games, the second of which was a positively garish 121-94 home loss to the Pacers in which Utah allowed Indiana to shoot 58%.  Mitchell would return in their next game in Brooklyn where led the Jazz to a come from behind win by scoring 29 points.  Since he returned to the lineup, the Jazz have played three games at Vivint Smart Home Arena and won by scores of 139-105, 118-91, and 111-84.  Humph.  How am I supposed to ignore that?  Crap, I think I have to take these guys again.

     
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    Yup, with Mitchell they are a good nba team, without him, they might lose to Duke quiet

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    Return of the Mack!  Bator has landed folks...soak this up!

     

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    No Vucevic

    Fake news...Source?

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    Vucevic is given the night off for personal reasons- spending time with family after having his first born child.

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