When CFB selects the top 8 teams all conferences benefit as does the collegiate gridiron fanbase and the betting public.
8 teams play on Christmas - or on Christmas Eve (due to NFL games) then become 4 winners to play on New Years Eve, and then the final national championship game is set.
The aforesaid scenario will not only eliminate the problems this year is presenting, but also ensure early season scheduling of & results for non-conference matches must matter much more = Great for all !!
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CFB Playoff too, comes in 3's
When CFB selects the top 8 teams all conferences benefit as does the collegiate gridiron fanbase and the betting public.
8 teams play on Christmas - or on Christmas Eve (due to NFL games) then become 4 winners to play on New Years Eve, and then the final national championship game is set.
The aforesaid scenario will not only eliminate the problems this year is presenting, but also ensure early season scheduling of & results for non-conference matches must matter much more = Great for all !!
With another Clemson loss, coupled with a Washington loss to Colorado:
1. Bama 2. OSU 3. Michigan 4. Wiscy / Penn State 5. Colorado 6. OK / OK State 7. USC (a very potent team now) 8. Louisville / Fla St. / Western Mich
For example, when the Chippewas beat the OK Cowboys, a Big 12 top team, and in their own house, and thereafter get throttled at home by more than 5 Touchdowns - 49-10 - by Western Michigan, the Broncos have earned a shot at the Crown, but at least a New Years Day Big 6.
They beat Illinois by 3 TDs & a FG, holding them to 3 yds total rushing - the same Illini who beat Mich St. 31-27 - the same Spartans whose failed 2-pt conversion kept them from beating Thee Ohio State (#2). But without an 8 team tourney, the whole system suffers, as does the collegiate gridiron enthusiast.
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With another Clemson loss, coupled with a Washington loss to Colorado:
1. Bama 2. OSU 3. Michigan 4. Wiscy / Penn State 5. Colorado 6. OK / OK State 7. USC (a very potent team now) 8. Louisville / Fla St. / Western Mich
For example, when the Chippewas beat the OK Cowboys, a Big 12 top team, and in their own house, and thereafter get throttled at home by more than 5 Touchdowns - 49-10 - by Western Michigan, the Broncos have earned a shot at the Crown, but at least a New Years Day Big 6.
They beat Illinois by 3 TDs & a FG, holding them to 3 yds total rushing - the same Illini who beat Mich St. 31-27 - the same Spartans whose failed 2-pt conversion kept them from beating Thee Ohio State (#2). But without an 8 team tourney, the whole system suffers, as does the collegiate gridiron enthusiast.
#1. Bama Vs. #8. Louisville w/ a running QB who had a good chance to beat Clemson in their "Death Valley" home - Bama has a bad record against squads w/ a good QB-rusher...
Bama facing Seminoles or upstart Broncos also makes for at least as much interest as Bama Vs. Clemson Part II.
#2. OSU Vs. #7. USC = an Ultra Rose Bowl !!
#3. Mich Vs. #6. OK/OK St = Defense Vs QB.
#4. Wisc/Penn St. Vs. #5. Col = Rose Bowl II.
This is what teams, fans and viewers OUGHT TO BE treated to this upcoming Bowl Season!
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An Eight Team College Football Tournament
#1. Bama Vs. #8. Louisville w/ a running QB who had a good chance to beat Clemson in their "Death Valley" home - Bama has a bad record against squads w/ a good QB-rusher...
Bama facing Seminoles or upstart Broncos also makes for at least as much interest as Bama Vs. Clemson Part II.
#2. OSU Vs. #7. USC = an Ultra Rose Bowl !!
#3. Mich Vs. #6. OK/OK St = Defense Vs QB.
#4. Wisc/Penn St. Vs. #5. Col = Rose Bowl II.
This is what teams, fans and viewers OUGHT TO BE treated to this upcoming Bowl Season!
As violent and dangerous as Collegiate gridiron is, players will elect to skip meaningless bowls, since a bowl game is not going to change a player's NFL draft stock. More & more borderline picks will join more NFL-draftables in skipping any meaningless bowl game in an effort to pass the Combine. The strength they will have by consistent gym work, but the 40 yard dash is the difficult part - health is needed there.
Either they pay players like Northwestern's move, or the NCAA will need to do something by next year.
The LSU & Stanford rosters will cause the expansion of the CFPlayoffs to eight, and ought to (but still may not) cause a large cut back in the number of bowls down to but a handful of the interesting matches of the top 15 teams all Conference Champs, and the New Years Six.
Also, the NCAA will need to allow red-shirt players to play in the bowls.
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As violent and dangerous as Collegiate gridiron is, players will elect to skip meaningless bowls, since a bowl game is not going to change a player's NFL draft stock. More & more borderline picks will join more NFL-draftables in skipping any meaningless bowl game in an effort to pass the Combine. The strength they will have by consistent gym work, but the 40 yard dash is the difficult part - health is needed there.
Either they pay players like Northwestern's move, or the NCAA will need to do something by next year.
The LSU & Stanford rosters will cause the expansion of the CFPlayoffs to eight, and ought to (but still may not) cause a large cut back in the number of bowls down to but a handful of the interesting matches of the top 15 teams all Conference Champs, and the New Years Six.
Also, the NCAA will need to allow red-shirt players to play in the bowls.
Packers are in good position to make the playoffs by beating the Vikings 38-25.
But their slim chances of clinching a playoff spot yesterday did not come thru, ensuring that they will need to win next week to be fully assured of a playoff spot. WAS EXPECTED SINCE THE G.B. vs. LIONS WAS FLEXED TO PRIME TIME (and so that scenario to ensure the upcoming game is significant = Huge Parlay !!)
Packers got 1 tiny bit of help when the TB Bucs lost to the New Orleans Saints. That dropped them a full game back, (rather than the tight 99-98 Packer higher placement that they already had had = the same narrow, 1 point Playoff berth they used in 2010 [and oddly enough, 2010 the team they edged out was T.B.] when they won the super bowl. [[But the even-year Win-it-all Giants of SF are matched by the every-four-year Win-it-all Giants of NY (vs. the Pats, and then Eli wins and has more SB-rings than Payton).>
With the Vikings also out after their loss yesterday, that leaves only Washington as the other contender. Washington beat the Chicago Bears on Christmas Eve, so at 8-6-1 and a half-game behind the Packers, this means that the Packers have 2 pathways into the playoffs in week 17: either defeat the Detroit Lions and win the NFC North, or see Washington lose to the New York Giants instead.
The AFC is all set for the Playoffs, as the Lions and Cowboys play this Monday night —
1. Dallas Cowboys (12-2) 2. Atlanta Falcons (10-5) 3. Detroit Lions (9-5) 4. Seattle Seahawks (9-5-1) 5. New York Giants (10-5) 6. Green Bay Packers (9-6) 7. Washington (8-6-1)
NOTE: Packers still have a chance at earning the 3rd seed in the NFC - they do so w/ a win next week + a Seattle loss away at the (2-13) 49ers.
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Packers are in good position to make the playoffs by beating the Vikings 38-25.
But their slim chances of clinching a playoff spot yesterday did not come thru, ensuring that they will need to win next week to be fully assured of a playoff spot. WAS EXPECTED SINCE THE G.B. vs. LIONS WAS FLEXED TO PRIME TIME (and so that scenario to ensure the upcoming game is significant = Huge Parlay !!)
Packers got 1 tiny bit of help when the TB Bucs lost to the New Orleans Saints. That dropped them a full game back, (rather than the tight 99-98 Packer higher placement that they already had had = the same narrow, 1 point Playoff berth they used in 2010 [and oddly enough, 2010 the team they edged out was T.B.] when they won the super bowl. [[But the even-year Win-it-all Giants of SF are matched by the every-four-year Win-it-all Giants of NY (vs. the Pats, and then Eli wins and has more SB-rings than Payton).>
With the Vikings also out after their loss yesterday, that leaves only Washington as the other contender. Washington beat the Chicago Bears on Christmas Eve, so at 8-6-1 and a half-game behind the Packers, this means that the Packers have 2 pathways into the playoffs in week 17: either defeat the Detroit Lions and win the NFC North, or see Washington lose to the New York Giants instead.
The AFC is all set for the Playoffs, as the Lions and Cowboys play this Monday night —
1. Dallas Cowboys (12-2) 2. Atlanta Falcons (10-5) 3. Detroit Lions (9-5) 4. Seattle Seahawks (9-5-1) 5. New York Giants (10-5) 6. Green Bay Packers (9-6) 7. Washington (8-6-1)
NOTE: Packers still have a chance at earning the 3rd seed in the NFC - they do so w/ a win next week + a Seattle loss away at the (2-13) 49ers.
Cases resulting in the Lions winning certain playoff spots:-
1st Spot = First Round Bye => Lions can't win this spot
2nd Spot = First Round Bye Case 1:? Lions beat the Packers, and? Lions tie/beat the Cowboys, and? Saints tie/beat the Falcons
Case 2:? Lions tie the Packers, and? Lions beat the Cowboys, and? Saints beat the Falcons
Case 3:? Lions beat the Packers, and? 49ers tie/beat the Seahawks, and? Saints beat the Falcons
Case 4:? Lions tie the Packers, and? Lions tie the Cowboys, and? 49ers tie/beat the Seahawks, and? Saints beat the Falcons
Case 5:? Lions beat the Packers, and? Lions beat the Cowboys, and? Vikings beat the Bears, and? Buccaneers beat the Panthers, and? Redskins beat the Giants, and? Seahawks tie/beat the 49ers, and? Rams beat the Cardinals
Case 6:? Lions beat the Packers, and? Lions beat the Cowboys, and? Vikings beat the Bears, and? Buccaneers beat the Panthers, and? Redskins beat the Giants, and? Seahawks beat the 49ers, and? Rams tie the Cardinals
Case 7:? Lions beat the Packers, and? Lions beat the Cowboys, and? Vikings tie the Bears, and? Buccaneers beat the Panthers, and? Redskins beat the Giants, and? Seahawks beat the 49ers, and? Rams beat the Cardinals
Case 8:? Lions beat the Packers, and? Lions beat the Cowboys, and? Vikings beat the Bears, and? Buccaneers beat the Panthers, and? Redskins tie the Giants, and? Seahawks beat the 49ers, and? Rams beat the Cardinals
Case 9:? Lions beat the Packers, and? Lions beat the Cowboys, and? Vikings beat the Bears, and? Buccaneers tie the Panthers, and? Redskins beat the Giants, and? Seahawks beat the 49ers, and? Rams beat the Cardinals
3rd Spot = 1st Round Home Field Advantage Case 1:? Lions beat the Packers, and? Lions tie/beat the Cowboys
Case 2:? Lions tie the Packers, and? Lions beat the Cowboys
Case 3:? Lions beat the Packers, and? Saints beat the Falcons
Case 4:? Lions beat the Packers, and? 49ers tie/beat the Seahawks
Case 5:? Lions tie the Packers, and? Lions tie the Cowboys, and? Saints beat the Falcons
Case 6:? Lions tie the Packers, and? Lions tie the Cowboys, and? 49ers tie/beat the Seahawks
4th Spot = 1st Round Home Field Advantage Case 1:? Lions beat the Packers
Case 2:? Lions tie the Packers, and? Lions tie the Cowboys
5th Spot => The Lions cannot win this spot
6th Spot Case 1:? Lions tis the Packers
Case 2:? Lions tie/beat the Cowboys
Case 3:? Giants tie/beat the Redskins
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Cases resulting in the Lions winning certain playoff spots:-
1st Spot = First Round Bye => Lions can't win this spot
2nd Spot = First Round Bye Case 1:? Lions beat the Packers, and? Lions tie/beat the Cowboys, and? Saints tie/beat the Falcons
Case 2:? Lions tie the Packers, and? Lions beat the Cowboys, and? Saints beat the Falcons
Case 3:? Lions beat the Packers, and? 49ers tie/beat the Seahawks, and? Saints beat the Falcons
Case 4:? Lions tie the Packers, and? Lions tie the Cowboys, and? 49ers tie/beat the Seahawks, and? Saints beat the Falcons
Case 5:? Lions beat the Packers, and? Lions beat the Cowboys, and? Vikings beat the Bears, and? Buccaneers beat the Panthers, and? Redskins beat the Giants, and? Seahawks tie/beat the 49ers, and? Rams beat the Cardinals
Case 6:? Lions beat the Packers, and? Lions beat the Cowboys, and? Vikings beat the Bears, and? Buccaneers beat the Panthers, and? Redskins beat the Giants, and? Seahawks beat the 49ers, and? Rams tie the Cardinals
Case 7:? Lions beat the Packers, and? Lions beat the Cowboys, and? Vikings tie the Bears, and? Buccaneers beat the Panthers, and? Redskins beat the Giants, and? Seahawks beat the 49ers, and? Rams beat the Cardinals
Case 8:? Lions beat the Packers, and? Lions beat the Cowboys, and? Vikings beat the Bears, and? Buccaneers beat the Panthers, and? Redskins tie the Giants, and? Seahawks beat the 49ers, and? Rams beat the Cardinals
Case 9:? Lions beat the Packers, and? Lions beat the Cowboys, and? Vikings beat the Bears, and? Buccaneers tie the Panthers, and? Redskins beat the Giants, and? Seahawks beat the 49ers, and? Rams beat the Cardinals
3rd Spot = 1st Round Home Field Advantage Case 1:? Lions beat the Packers, and? Lions tie/beat the Cowboys
Case 2:? Lions tie the Packers, and? Lions beat the Cowboys
Case 3:? Lions beat the Packers, and? Saints beat the Falcons
Case 4:? Lions beat the Packers, and? 49ers tie/beat the Seahawks
Case 5:? Lions tie the Packers, and? Lions tie the Cowboys, and? Saints beat the Falcons
Case 6:? Lions tie the Packers, and? Lions tie the Cowboys, and? 49ers tie/beat the Seahawks
4th Spot = 1st Round Home Field Advantage Case 1:? Lions beat the Packers
Case 2:? Lions tie the Packers, and? Lions tie the Cowboys
Clemson has won 5 straight games over Big Ten schools (4-1 ATS). They're the 3 point dog — and to Urban Meyer w/ time to prepare!
Urban is 10-2 ATS in Bowl games. Thus, he's the best big game HC, even better than Nick Sabin.
Still, after coaching 193 games, Meyer has won 165 and lost only 28 times, and to just 22 different coaches. So you tend to take note when he loses, and to whom he loses.
When Urban Meyer was peaking in the 2013-2014 season, before losing 24-34 to Michigan State in the Big 10 Championship, & to Dabo Swinney's Clemson in the Orange Bowl on 3 Jan 2014, making Dabo 1-0 against Urban.
No coach has more success vs. Urban Meyer than Cincinnati's Tommy Tuberville. He is 2-0 against Meyer, beating him at Florida in 2006 & 2007 when he was the coach at Auburn.
Only four coaches have beaten him more than once.
Only Tuberville has beaten him more than once w/ a perfect record.
Only 8 other coaches have a perfect record against Meyer at 1-0.
Only three of them — Florida State's Jimbo Fisher, Clemson's Dabo Swinney Virginia Tech's Frank Beamer — are currently active as head coaches.
Here are the men who have beaten Urban Meyer on the field.
Three wins (only one Head Coach)
3-3 Les Miles, LSU
Two wins (three HC's)
2-0 Tommy Tuberville, Auburn
2-1 Nick Saban, Alabama
2-4 Steve Spurrier, South Carolina
One win (17 HC's)
1-0 Bob Pruett, Marshall
1-0 Terry Hoeppner, Miami (OH)
1-0 Joe Novak, Northern Illinois
1-0 Jim Leavitt, South Florida
1-0 Lloyd Carr, Michigan
1-0 Jimbo Fisher, Florida State
1-0 Dabo Swinney, Clemson
1-0 Frank Beamer, Virginia Tech
1-0 James E. Franklin, Penn State
1-1 Tom Astutz, Toledo
1-1 Gary Darnell, Western Michigan
1-1 Dennis Franchione, Texas A&M
1-1 Mike Shula, Alabama
1-1 Houston Nutt, Arkansas/Ole Miss
1-1 Dan Mullen, Mississippi State
1-1 Mark Dantonio, Michigan State
1-2 Rocky Long, New Mexico/San Diego State
1-5 Mark Richt, Georgia
Urban's career Winning %age ranks 3rd in the entire history of major college football among coaches w/ at least 10 yrs as HC.
#1 Knute Rockne .881 = 105-12-5 Notre Dame 1918-1930 #2 Frank Leahy .864 = 107-13-9 Boston College 1939-1940; Notre Dame 1941-1943, 1946-1953 #3 Urban Meyer .855 = 165-28 Bo Green 2001-02; Utah 2003-04; Florida 2005-10; OSU 2012-today ... #11 Chris Petersen .826 = 119-25 Boise State 2006-13; Washington 2014-today ... #14 Bob Stoops .7975 = 189-48 Oklahoma 1999-present
24 Nick Saban (8) .777 209-60-1 Toledo 1990; Michigan State 1995-1999; Louisiana State 2000-2004; Alabama 2007-present
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URBAN MEYER
Clemson has won 5 straight games over Big Ten schools (4-1 ATS). They're the 3 point dog — and to Urban Meyer w/ time to prepare!
Urban is 10-2 ATS in Bowl games. Thus, he's the best big game HC, even better than Nick Sabin.
Still, after coaching 193 games, Meyer has won 165 and lost only 28 times, and to just 22 different coaches. So you tend to take note when he loses, and to whom he loses.
When Urban Meyer was peaking in the 2013-2014 season, before losing 24-34 to Michigan State in the Big 10 Championship, & to Dabo Swinney's Clemson in the Orange Bowl on 3 Jan 2014, making Dabo 1-0 against Urban.
No coach has more success vs. Urban Meyer than Cincinnati's Tommy Tuberville. He is 2-0 against Meyer, beating him at Florida in 2006 & 2007 when he was the coach at Auburn.
Only four coaches have beaten him more than once.
Only Tuberville has beaten him more than once w/ a perfect record.
Only 8 other coaches have a perfect record against Meyer at 1-0.
Only three of them — Florida State's Jimbo Fisher, Clemson's Dabo Swinney Virginia Tech's Frank Beamer — are currently active as head coaches.
Here are the men who have beaten Urban Meyer on the field.
Three wins (only one Head Coach)
3-3 Les Miles, LSU
Two wins (three HC's)
2-0 Tommy Tuberville, Auburn
2-1 Nick Saban, Alabama
2-4 Steve Spurrier, South Carolina
One win (17 HC's)
1-0 Bob Pruett, Marshall
1-0 Terry Hoeppner, Miami (OH)
1-0 Joe Novak, Northern Illinois
1-0 Jim Leavitt, South Florida
1-0 Lloyd Carr, Michigan
1-0 Jimbo Fisher, Florida State
1-0 Dabo Swinney, Clemson
1-0 Frank Beamer, Virginia Tech
1-0 James E. Franklin, Penn State
1-1 Tom Astutz, Toledo
1-1 Gary Darnell, Western Michigan
1-1 Dennis Franchione, Texas A&M
1-1 Mike Shula, Alabama
1-1 Houston Nutt, Arkansas/Ole Miss
1-1 Dan Mullen, Mississippi State
1-1 Mark Dantonio, Michigan State
1-2 Rocky Long, New Mexico/San Diego State
1-5 Mark Richt, Georgia
Urban's career Winning %age ranks 3rd in the entire history of major college football among coaches w/ at least 10 yrs as HC.
#1 Knute Rockne .881 = 105-12-5 Notre Dame 1918-1930 #2 Frank Leahy .864 = 107-13-9 Boston College 1939-1940; Notre Dame 1941-1943, 1946-1953 #3 Urban Meyer .855 = 165-28 Bo Green 2001-02; Utah 2003-04; Florida 2005-10; OSU 2012-today ... #11 Chris Petersen .826 = 119-25 Boise State 2006-13; Washington 2014-today ... #14 Bob Stoops .7975 = 189-48 Oklahoma 1999-present
24 Nick Saban (8) .777 209-60-1 Toledo 1990; Michigan State 1995-1999; Louisiana State 2000-2004; Alabama 2007-present
Butler Bulls come back from a 19 pt halftime deficit. Still down a dozen at the 3rd Q's end, Bulls force OT. Took the 1st 2 points & never trailed thereafter: Bulls Win for the 11th straight time over Raps. New Years Eve of 2013 — Bulls w/o starters, Raps beat the BULLievaBulls. Bulls win 12th on Valentine's, next month; but 13th = 3.21 = unlucky loss S.U., but for sure a cover.
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UnBullievabull BULLS: Offensive glass clinic !
Butler Bulls come back from a 19 pt halftime deficit. Still down a dozen at the 3rd Q's end, Bulls force OT. Took the 1st 2 points & never trailed thereafter: Bulls Win for the 11th straight time over Raps. New Years Eve of 2013 — Bulls w/o starters, Raps beat the BULLievaBulls. Bulls win 12th on Valentine's, next month; but 13th = 3.21 = unlucky loss S.U., but for sure a cover.
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NBA Finals Odds Update
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Took Texans just 'cause the Raiders don't have a QB. (The NFL made this the 1st playoff game of the year — folks will watch this just because it's the "playoffs" otherwise who would even bother to tune this one in.)
Steelers then beat the Dolphins. The Patriots cream the Texans, and Chiefs beat the Steelers. Chiefs go into Foxborough and upset the Patriots to reach the Super Bowl (give Steelers a 5% chance to beat KC then go beat the Patriots). This sets up the weird, all-Texas Super Bowl.
How, you may ask??
Because the Chiefs were the original Dallas team back in the AFC (the franchise was Dallas Texans — prior to moving to Kansas City), so the original Dallas franchise will take on the upstart Dallas franchise in the Super Bowl played in Houston.
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Took Texans just 'cause the Raiders don't have a QB. (The NFL made this the 1st playoff game of the year — folks will watch this just because it's the "playoffs" otherwise who would even bother to tune this one in.)
Steelers then beat the Dolphins. The Patriots cream the Texans, and Chiefs beat the Steelers. Chiefs go into Foxborough and upset the Patriots to reach the Super Bowl (give Steelers a 5% chance to beat KC then go beat the Patriots). This sets up the weird, all-Texas Super Bowl.
How, you may ask??
Because the Chiefs were the original Dallas team back in the AFC (the franchise was Dallas Texans — prior to moving to Kansas City), so the original Dallas franchise will take on the upstart Dallas franchise in the Super Bowl played in Houston.
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