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    No One Talks About Lebron James

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    Posted: May. 7, 2009 - 11:52 PM ET #1

     No doubt this guy is probably the best player in the NBA. I saw this guy for the first time in Miami at hotel im Miami about a month ago. He was a great guy and extremely nice. He looks big on TV but in person even bigger. This guy has probably put a solid 30 pounds of muscle in the last few years.
     
     I know the NBA has a no drug testing policy and smoking pot is a given. I think Lebron might be on the juice as well. No one suspects it in Basketball. Looking at old photos no comparision to now. Yeah I know he was young but you don't grow like that (30 pounds of muscle) naturally especially basketball players.
     
    People will say I'm crazy for saying this but as a former Gym Rat. I know the differance between natural gains and drug induced ones and they way people look.
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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
     No doubt this guy is probably the best player in the NBA. I saw this guy for the first time in Miami at hotel im Miami about a month ago. He was a great guy and extremely nice. He looks big on TV but in person even bigger. This guy has probably put a solid 30 pounds of muscle in the last few years.
     
     I know the NBA has a no drug testing policy and smoking pot is a given. I think Lebron might be on the juice as well. No one suspects it in Basketball. Looking at old photos no comparision to now. Yeah I know he was young but you don't grow like that (30 pounds of muscle) naturally especially basketball players.
     
    People will say I'm crazy for saying this but as a former Gym Rat. I know the differance between natural gains and drug induced ones and they way people look.
     
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    Posted: May. 7, 2009 - 11:56 PM ET #2

    So basketball players can't gain muscle?
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    So basketball players can't gain muscle?
     
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    Posted: May. 7, 2009 - 11:57 PM ET #3

    Not 30 pounds my friend in matter of a couple years.  And Pro baseball players can hit 70 home runs without Steroids.
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    Not 30 pounds my friend in matter of a couple years.  And Pro baseball players can hit 70 home runs without Steroids.
     
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    Posted: May. 7, 2009 - 11:59 PM ET #4

    And if he is. They have no drug policy. No Harm No Foul. Like Baseball years ago. That would be like going to the Audobon where's no speed limit and giving out speeding tickets.
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    And if he is. They have no drug policy. No Harm No Foul. Like Baseball years ago. That would be like going to the Audobon where's no speed limit and giving out speeding tickets.
     
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    Posted: May. 8, 2009 - 12:10 AM ET #5

    he has been in the league for 4 yrs right?
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    he has been in the league for 4 yrs right?
     
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    Posted: May. 8, 2009 - 12:18 AM ET #6

    Sorry it was 40 pounds of muscle.

     

     

    INDIANAPOLIS, IN – In the era of performance-enhancing drugs, every athlete’s weight fluctuations on a year-to-year basis come with an enormity of speculation. Yet, somehow, NBA players have always been immune to the type of skepticism that accompanies mass gain or loss for other athletes in other sports. With PEDs dominating the headlines since Canseco penned his first ever subject-predicate sequence, it’s a little shocking that nobody has every directly asked LeBron James if his roughly 4o-pound weight gain had anything to do with the same doping that was running rampant in every other sport. Was the guy going to have to travel back in time and put on a Texas Rangers jersey for someone to actually ask some questions?

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    Sorry it was 40 pounds of muscle.

     

     

    INDIANAPOLIS, IN – In the era of performance-enhancing drugs, every athlete’s weight fluctuations on a year-to-year basis come with an enormity of speculation. Yet, somehow, NBA players have always been immune to the type of skepticism that accompanies mass gain or loss for other athletes in other sports. With PEDs dominating the headlines since Canseco penned his first ever subject-predicate sequence, it’s a little shocking that nobody has every directly asked LeBron James if his roughly 4o-pound weight gain had anything to do with the same doping that was running rampant in every other sport. Was the guy going to have to travel back in time and put on a Texas Rangers jersey for someone to actually ask some questions?

     
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    Posted: May. 8, 2009 - 12:24 AM ET #7

    well you know its normal to be suspecias in these day of age everybody is getting busted these days for steroid use and i do agree its hard to get that big in 2 years i been going to gym for like last 10 years and im still pretty much the same
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    well you know its normal to be suspecias in these day of age everybody is getting busted these days for steroid use and i do agree its hard to get that big in 2 years i been going to gym for like last 10 years and im still pretty much the same
     
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    Posted: May. 8, 2009 - 12:30 AM ET #8

    I Have no proof that he is rather than common sense. If you know anything about bodybuilding and working out 40 pounds in a couple years isn't possible NATURALLY. In todays world is it so out of the question? Especially when you have no drug policy. Whose going to catch you.
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    I Have no proof that he is rather than common sense. If you know anything about bodybuilding and working out 40 pounds in a couple years isn't possible NATURALLY. In todays world is it so out of the question? Especially when you have no drug policy. Whose going to catch you.
     
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    Posted: May. 8, 2009 - 12:33 AM ET #9

    i see where u coming from i would be mad if he is taking anything and getting paid all these money and fame cause of something he is taking to make him better dont see why they dont test them as well after all people are willing to do anything to better them selves even if it means cheating
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    i see where u coming from i would be mad if he is taking anything and getting paid all these money and fame cause of something he is taking to make him better dont see why they dont test them as well after all people are willing to do anything to better them selves even if it means cheating
     
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    Posted: May. 8, 2009 - 2:18 AM ET #10

    Yes, I went to see him at the palace of auburn hills for game 3 round 1 and he looks taller in person; he is pure fiber.
    He is a good guy, but he still lacks consistent outside shooting and free throw shooting.
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    Yes, I went to see him at the palace of auburn hills for game 3 round 1 and he looks taller in person; he is pure fiber.
    He is a good guy, but he still lacks consistent outside shooting and free throw shooting.
     
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    Posted: May. 8, 2009 - 2:27 AM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by Johny_Utah:

    Sorry it was 40 pounds of muscle.

     

     

    INDIANAPOLIS, IN – In the era of performance-enhancing drugs, every athlete’s weight fluctuations on a year-to-year basis come with an enormity of speculation. Yet, somehow, NBA players have always been immune to the type of skepticism that accompanies mass gain or loss for other athletes in other sports. With PEDs dominating the headlines since Canseco penned his first ever subject-predicate sequence, it’s a little shocking that nobody has every directly asked LeBron James if his roughly 4o-pound weight gain had anything to do with the same doping that was running rampant in every other sport. Was the guy going to have to travel back in time and put on a Texas Rangers jersey for someone to actually ask some questions?



    Do you have a link for that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Johny_Utah:

    Sorry it was 40 pounds of muscle.

     

     

    INDIANAPOLIS, IN – In the era of performance-enhancing drugs, every athlete’s weight fluctuations on a year-to-year basis come with an enormity of speculation. Yet, somehow, NBA players have always been immune to the type of skepticism that accompanies mass gain or loss for other athletes in other sports. With PEDs dominating the headlines since Canseco penned his first ever subject-predicate sequence, it’s a little shocking that nobody has every directly asked LeBron James if his roughly 4o-pound weight gain had anything to do with the same doping that was running rampant in every other sport. Was the guy going to have to travel back in time and put on a Texas Rangers jersey for someone to actually ask some questions?



    Do you have a link for that?
     
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    Posted: May. 8, 2009 - 2:36 AM ET #12

    lebron is an alien
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    lebron is an alien
     
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    Posted: May. 8, 2009 - 2:39 AM ET #13

    Been saying this for years.  King James is a doper. 
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    Been saying this for years.  King James is a doper. 
     
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    Posted: May. 8, 2009 - 2:40 AM ET #14

    roids are bad for your ligaments and tendons, he would have a hard time staying on the court 82 games a year if he was on roids. They are also bad for aerobic sports such as basketball (although cyclists have been banned for doping). It is possible but I doubt it, I think its mostly genes and work ethic. This guy was a monster in HS.
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    roids are bad for your ligaments and tendons, he would have a hard time staying on the court 82 games a year if he was on roids. They are also bad for aerobic sports such as basketball (although cyclists have been banned for doping). It is possible but I doubt it, I think its mostly genes and work ethic. This guy was a monster in HS.
     
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    Posted: May. 8, 2009 - 9:06 AM ET #15

    What a joke.
     
    First of all, his official weight during his rookie year was 245. That was SIX years ago when he was 18 years old. And right now, most people will tell you he's around 260/265 right now. Have you seen what he looked like during his rookie year, both in terms of his physique and even his facial features? He looked like a kid back then and it's because he still was a kid. It's nothing out of the ordinary for a premier athlete to gain 15-20 pounds of muscle from the ages of 18 to 24. The NBA is a man's game and Lebron was going up against children in high school; every player who comes in wants to bulk up right away. Sure, performance-enhancing drugs are a possibility even in basketball, but Lebron's case is nothing to scratch one's head about.
     
     
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    What a joke.
     
    First of all, his official weight during his rookie year was 245. That was SIX years ago when he was 18 years old. And right now, most people will tell you he's around 260/265 right now. Have you seen what he looked like during his rookie year, both in terms of his physique and even his facial features? He looked like a kid back then and it's because he still was a kid. It's nothing out of the ordinary for a premier athlete to gain 15-20 pounds of muscle from the ages of 18 to 24. The NBA is a man's game and Lebron was going up against children in high school; every player who comes in wants to bulk up right away. Sure, performance-enhancing drugs are a possibility even in basketball, but Lebron's case is nothing to scratch one's head about.
     
     
     
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    Posted: May. 8, 2009 - 9:16 AM ET #16

    Quote Originally Posted by Johny_Utah:

     No doubt this guy is probably the best player in the NBA. I saw this guy for the first time in Miami at hotel im Miami about a month ago. He was a great guy and extremely nice. He looks big on TV but in person even bigger. This guy has probably put a solid 30 pounds of muscle in the last few years.
     
     I know the NBA has a no drug testing policy and smoking pot is a given. I think Lebron might be on the juice as well. No one suspects it in Basketball. Looking at old photos no comparision to now. Yeah I know he was young but you don't grow like that (30 pounds of muscle) naturally especially basketball players.
     
    People will say I'm crazy for saying this but as a former Gym Rat. I know the differance between natural gains and drug induced ones and they way people look.

    I agree with you... a friend and me were just talking about this 2 days ago and saying how NBA players are getting a pass. 

    Steroids just don't help you gain muscle it also helps you recover.  After games these guys get banged around and they need too recover. 

    Steroids is all over every major sport.  And there is no stopping it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johny_Utah:

     No doubt this guy is probably the best player in the NBA. I saw this guy for the first time in Miami at hotel im Miami about a month ago. He was a great guy and extremely nice. He looks big on TV but in person even bigger. This guy has probably put a solid 30 pounds of muscle in the last few years.
     
     I know the NBA has a no drug testing policy and smoking pot is a given. I think Lebron might be on the juice as well. No one suspects it in Basketball. Looking at old photos no comparision to now. Yeah I know he was young but you don't grow like that (30 pounds of muscle) naturally especially basketball players.
     
    People will say I'm crazy for saying this but as a former Gym Rat. I know the differance between natural gains and drug induced ones and they way people look.

    I agree with you... a friend and me were just talking about this 2 days ago and saying how NBA players are getting a pass. 

    Steroids just don't help you gain muscle it also helps you recover.  After games these guys get banged around and they need too recover. 

    Steroids is all over every major sport.  And there is no stopping it.

     
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    Posted: May. 8, 2009 - 9:33 AM ET #17

    Putting on 30 pounds of muscle over 5 or 6 years is not abnormal. 
     
    Also, KG and Kobe have both bulked up tremendously over the last 10 years, well within the reasonable expectations of regular wieghlifting
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    Putting on 30 pounds of muscle over 5 or 6 years is not abnormal. 
     
    Also, KG and Kobe have both bulked up tremendously over the last 10 years, well within the reasonable expectations of regular wieghlifting
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by bob696969:

    Putting on 30 pounds of muscle over 5 or 6 years is not abnormal. 
     
    Also, KG and Kobe have both bulked up tremendously over the last 10 years, well within the reasonable expectations of regular wieghlifting

    KG looks like Celion Deoin next to Lebron James. Please find me someone else that has added 40 pounds of muscle since coming into the league and there head has increased 10 sizes like Barry Bonds.  

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    Quote Originally Posted by bob696969:

    Putting on 30 pounds of muscle over 5 or 6 years is not abnormal. 
     
    Also, KG and Kobe have both bulked up tremendously over the last 10 years, well within the reasonable expectations of regular wieghlifting

    KG looks like Celion Deoin next to Lebron James. Please find me someone else that has added 40 pounds of muscle since coming into the league and there head has increased 10 sizes like Barry Bonds.  

     
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    Posted: May. 8, 2009 - 10:48 AM ET #19

    Quote Originally Posted by arod1186:

    roids are bad for your ligaments and tendons, he would have a hard time staying on the court 82 games a year if he was on roids. They are also bad for aerobic sports such as basketball (although cyclists have been banned for doping). It is possible but I doubt it, I think its mostly genes and work ethic. This guy was a monster in HS.

    Yeah but this doesn't show up tell later in life like your 40's. Right now this guy is perfectly healthy.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by arod1186:

    roids are bad for your ligaments and tendons, he would have a hard time staying on the court 82 games a year if he was on roids. They are also bad for aerobic sports such as basketball (although cyclists have been banned for doping). It is possible but I doubt it, I think its mostly genes and work ethic. This guy was a monster in HS.

    Yeah but this doesn't show up tell later in life like your 40's. Right now this guy is perfectly healthy.

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Johny_Utah:

    KG looks like Celion Deoin next to Lebron James. Please find me someone else that has added 40 pounds of muscle since coming into the league and there head has increased 10 sizes like Barry Bonds.  

      100% agreed with you
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    KG looks like Celion Deoin next to Lebron James. Please find me someone else that has added 40 pounds of muscle since coming into the league and there head has increased 10 sizes like Barry Bonds.  

      100% agreed with you
     
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    Dude, Shaq put on like 100lbs. You could be right, but I'm just saying that there's several instances that younger players put on a ton of muscle after entering a professional sport. Think about how his training regiment changed going from his Akron HIGH SCHOOL to the NBA. He now has nutritionists, personal trainers, cooks and he's paid to work out. On top of that, from 18 to 24 is the period that young men can get their biggest with ease.
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    Dude, Shaq put on like 100lbs. You could be right, but I'm just saying that there's several instances that younger players put on a ton of muscle after entering a professional sport. Think about how his training regiment changed going from his Akron HIGH SCHOOL to the NBA. He now has nutritionists, personal trainers, cooks and he's paid to work out. On top of that, from 18 to 24 is the period that young men can get their biggest with ease.
     
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    Posted: May. 8, 2009 - 10:51 AM ET #22

    I meant this guy.
     
     
    https://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l231/firecrakka/Ronnie_Coleman_03_1280.jpg
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    I meant this guy.
     
     
    https://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l231/firecrakka/Ronnie_Coleman_03_1280.jpg
     
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    Posted: May. 8, 2009 - 10:56 AM ET #23

    Quote Originally Posted by diggin15:

    Dude, Shaq put on like 100lbs. You could be right, but I'm just saying that there's several instances that younger players put on a ton of muscle after entering a professional sport. Think about how his training regiment changed going from his Akron HIGH SCHOOL to the NBA. He now has nutritionists, personal trainers, cooks and he's paid to work out. On top of that, from 18 to 24 is the period that young men can get their biggest with ease.

    Dude Shaq put on his weight at Krispy Kreme, Mcdonalds, and Popeye's with Big Macs and donuts not weights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by diggin15:

    Dude, Shaq put on like 100lbs. You could be right, but I'm just saying that there's several instances that younger players put on a ton of muscle after entering a professional sport. Think about how his training regiment changed going from his Akron HIGH SCHOOL to the NBA. He now has nutritionists, personal trainers, cooks and he's paid to work out. On top of that, from 18 to 24 is the period that young men can get their biggest with ease.

    Dude Shaq put on his weight at Krispy Kreme, Mcdonalds, and Popeye's with Big Macs and donuts not weights.

     
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    Posted: May. 8, 2009 - 10:56 AM ET #24

    maybe its the tattoos        DAHHHHHHHHH     koon is kreepy
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    maybe its the tattoos        DAHHHHHHHHH     koon is kreepy
     
     
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    Posted: May. 8, 2009 - 10:57 AM ET #25

    ive always felt king james was a juicer.
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    ive always felt king james was a juicer.
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