• Forums
  • Best Betting Sites
  • Sportsbook Promos
  • Best Sports Betting Apps
  • NFL Betting Forum
  • NBA Betting Forum
  • MLB Betting Forum
  • NHL Betting Forum
  • NCAAF Betting Forum
  • NCAAB Betting Forum
  • Soccer Betting Forum
  • Tennis Betting Forum
  • General Discussion
  • Help Forum
  • Guidelines
  • FAQ
  • Forum Updates
    Covers Logo
    Covers App
    Faster picks. Smarter bets.
    All in the NEW Covers App
    Download on the App Store Download on the Google Play Store
    • Sports
      • NFL
        • Back
        • NFL
        • NFL Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • Prop Projections
        • NFL Picks
        • Weather
        • Injuries
      • NCAAF
        • Back
        • NCAAF
        • NCAAF Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • Prop Projections
        • NCAAF Picks
        • Weather
        • Injuries
      • NBA
        • Back
        • NBA
        • NBA Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • Prop Projections
        • NBA Picks
        • Injuries
      • NCAAB
        • Back
        • NCAAB
        • NCAAB Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • NCAAB Picks
        • Injuries
      • MLB
        • Back
        • MLB
        • MLB Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • Prop Projections
        • MLB Picks
        • Weather
        • Injuries
      • NHL
        • Back
        • NHL
        • NHL Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • Prop Projections
        • NHL Picks
        • Injuries
      • Soccer
      • UFC
      • WNBA
        • Back
        • WNBA
        • WNBA Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • WNBA Picks
        • Injuries
      • CFL
        • Back
        • CFL
        • CFL Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • CFL Picks
      • Golf
        • Back
        • Golf
        • Golf Home
        • Golf Odds
        • Masters Odds
        • PGA Championship Odds
        • US Open Odds
        • British Open Odds
        • Ryder Cup Odds
        • Golf Picks
    • Odds
      • All Odds
      • NFL
      • NCAAF
      • NBA
      • NCAAB
      • MLB
      • NHL
      • Golf
      • Soccer Odds
        • Back
        • Soccer Odds
        • MLS Odds
        • Champions League Odds
        • Premier League Odds
      • UFC
      • WNBA
      • CFL
      • Election Odds
      • Futures
        • Back
        • Futures
        • NFL
        • NBA
        • MLB
        • NHL
        • NCAAB
        • NCAAF
      • Sports Odds History
    • Picks
      • All Picks
      • NFL
      • NBA
      • NHL
      • MLB
      • NCAAF
      • NCAAB
      • Golf
      • WNBA
      • CFL
      • User Picks
      • Team User Picks
      • Consensus Picks
        • Back
        • Consensus Picks
        • All Consensus Picks
        • NFL
        • NBA
        • NHL
        • MLB
        • NCAAF
        • NCAAB
        • CFL
        • WNBA
        • Consensus FAQ
        • Public Money
    • Prop Projections
      • NFL
      • NBA
      • MLB
      • NHL
    • Betting
      • US Betting Sites
      • Canada Betting Sites
      • Sportsbook Reviews
      • States
        • Back
        • States
        • US Legal Tracker
        • Revenue Tracker
        • Arizona
        • Arkansas
        • California
        • Colorado
        • Connecticut
        • DC
        • Florida
        • Georgia
        • Illinois
        • Indiana
        • Iowa
        • Kansas
        • Kentucky
        • Louisiana
        • Maine
        • Maryland
        • Massachusetts
        • Michigan
        • Mississippi
        • Missouri
        • Nevada
        • New Hampshire
        • New Jersey
        • New York
        • North Carolina
        • Ohio
        • Oregon
        • Pennsylvania
        • Tennessee
        • Texas
        • Vermont
        • Virginia
        • West Virginia
        • Wyoming
      • Provinces
        • Back
        • Provinces
        • Alberta
        • British Columbia
        • Manitoba
        • New Brunswick
        • Newfoundland and Labrador
        • Northwest Territories
        • Nova Scotia
        • Nunavut
        • Ontario
        • Prince Edward Island
        • Quebec (English)
        • Quebec (francais)
        • Saskatchewan
        • Yukon
      • By Sport
        • Back
        • By Sport
        • Baseball
        • Basketball
        • Boxing
        • College Football
        • F1
        • Football
        • Super Bowl
        • Golf
        • Hockey
        • Horse Racing
        • March Madness
        • Soccer
        • UFC
        • World Cup
      • Betting Apps
        • Back
        • Betting Apps
        • Best Sports Betting Apps USA
        • Ontario Sports Betting Apps
      • Rest of World
        • Back
        • Rest of World
        • UK Betting Offers
          • Back
          • UK Betting Offers
          • UK Betting Sites
          • bet365 Bonus Code UK
          • 888Sport Promo Code UK
          • William Hill Sign up Offer
          • Betway Sign up Offer
          • BetVictor Bonus Code UK
      • Betting Guides
        • Back
        • Betting Guides
        • All Guides
        • Glossary
        • Betting Calculators
          • Back
          • Betting Calculators
          • Odds Converter
          • Parlay Calculator
        • Futures Betting Guide
        • Moneyline Betting Guide
        • Over/Under Betting Guide
        • Parlay Betting Guide
        • Point Spread Betting Guide
        • Prop Betting Guide
        • Sports Betting Guides
          • Back
          • Sports Betting Guides
          • How To Bet On Sports Guide
          • NFL Betting Guide
          • NHL Betting Guide
          • NBA Betting Guide
          • MLB Betting Guide
          • NCAAB Betting Guide
          • NCAAF Betting Guide
          • Golf Betting Guide
          • Tennis Betting Guide
        • Teaser Betting Guide
      • Betting News
        • Back
        • Betting News
        • All News
        • Industry News
        • Podcasts
        • Covers Videos
        • Covers Writers
        • Offers & Boosts
    • Promos
      • Sportsbook Promos
      • Canada Sportsbook Promos
      • Bonuses By Sportsbook
        • Back
        • Bonuses By Sportsbook
        • bet365 Bonus Code
        • BET99 Promo Code
        • BetMGM Bonus Code
        • BetRivers Bonus Code
        • Caesars Sportsbook Promo
        • DraftKings Promo Code
        • Fanatics Sportsbook Promo
        • FanDuel Promo Code
        • Hard Rock Bet Promo Code
        • Sports Interaction Promo
        • Stake Promo Code
        • theScore Bet Promo Code
        • TonyBet Promo Code
      • Bonuses By Region
        • Back
        • Bonuses By Region
        • Arkansas Promos
        • Arizona Promos
        • Colorado Promos
        • Connecticut Promos
        • DC Promos
        • Illinois Promos
        • Indiana Promos
        • Iowa Promos
        • Kansas Promos
        • Kentucky Promos
        • Louisiana Promos
        • Maine Promos
        • Maryland Promos
        • Massachusetts Promos
        • Michigan Promos
        • Missouri Promos
        • New Jersey Promos
        • New York Promos
        • North Carolina Promos
        • Ohio Promos
        • Pennsylvania Promos
        • Tennessee Promos
        • Vermont Promos
        • Virginia Promos
        • West Virginia Promos
        • Wyoming Promos
    • Forum & Contests
      • All Forums
      • NFL Betting Forum
      • MLB Betting Forum
      • NCAAB Betting Forum
      • NCAAF Betting Forum
      • NBA Betting Forum
      • NHL Betting Forum
      • Soccer Betting Forum
      • Contests
        • Back
        • Contests
        • Contests Home
        • Streak Survivor
        • King of Covers
        • My Contests
    • Casino
      • Sweepstakes Casino
        • Back
        • Sweepstakes Casino
        • Sweepstakes Casino
        • Sweepstakes No-Deposit Bonuses
        • Sweepstakes Promos
          • Back
          • Sweepstakes Promos
          • Card Crush
          • Casino.click
          • Chanced Casino
          • Crown Coins Casino
          • FreeSpin Casino
          • LoneStar
          • McLuck
          • Mega Bonanza Casino
          • PlayFame
          • Pulsz
          • Stake.us
      • US Casinos
        • Back
        • US Casinos
        • US Online Casinos
        • US Online Casino Bonuses
        • Casino Promos
          • Back
          • Casino Promos
          • bet365 Casino Promo Code
          • BetRivers Casino Promo
          • Borgata Casino Bonus Code
          • Caesars Casino Bonus Code
          • DraftKings Casino Promo
          • Fanatics Casino Promo
          • FanDuel Casino Promo Code
          • Golden Nugget Casino Promo
          • Hard Rock Bet Casino Promo
          • Hollywood Casino Promo Code
      • Canada Casinos
        • Back
        • Canada Casinos
        • Canada Online Casinos
        • Provinces
          • Back
          • Provinces
          • Alberta Online Casino
          • BC Online Casino
          • Ontario Online Casinos
        • Casino Promos
          • Back
          • Casino Promos
          • BC.GAME Bonus Code
          • Cloudbet Promo Code
          • RainBet Promo Code
          • Roobet Promo Code
          • Shuffle Promo Code
          • Thrill Promo Code
    • Prediction Markets
      • Prediction Markets
      • Prediction Market Apps
      • Prediction Market Promos
      • Kalshi Promo Code
      • Kalshi Referral Code
      • Polymarket Promo Code
      • Polymarket Referral Code
      • DraftKings Predictions Promo Code
      • Novig Promo Code
      • ProphetX Promo Code
      • Underdog Promo Code
      • Betr Promo Code
      • OG Promo Code
      • Fanatics Markets Promo Code
      • Plus500 Promo Code
      • Gemini Predictions Promo Code
    • NFL Week 3
      NFL Week 3
      • NFL Odds
      • NFL Picks
      • NFL Prediction Markets
      • NFL Betting Sites
    Covers Account
    Log in Create account
    Join free Log in
    All Forums | NBA Betting Forum

    NBA = Stock Market [Why the NBA is rigged with proofs]

    «First Previous 12
    dontknowhowtobe
    j-walk
    Coverlkablanket
    microterf
    Participants:
    Search
    Views: 3225
    Posts: 31
    «First Previous 12
     
    dontknowhowtobe
    dontknowhowtobe
    Banned
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Dec, 2011
    Posts: 926
    Posted: Dec. 22, 2015 - 2:35 PM ET #26

    Quote Originally Posted by j-walk:


    Do you not understand what Im saying?  You're making it sound like Las Vegas or oddsmakers have insider information or are responsible for the rigging.  So if they are purposely making the games close, then we can get super rich playing teasers.  So why would the books want close games?  How does that benefit them?  The answer is is DOESNT! It hurts them.  So this makes no sense, "Vegas" makes way more money when theres a blowout.


    I perfectly understand what you say but you just elect to skip on what I tell you, so here goes:
    • Teasers are for suckers - you tease and get extremely low odds in return, I personally would never do that unless if I would see extremely useful benefit of doing so.
    • I've never claimed that 100% of the games are rigged, they're not, you gotta keep things random - but in general don't expect to be able to forecast the games all the times neither.
    • I don't deny there is an element of randomness.
    • What I brought here are proofs of fishy things, and the NBA does have lots of fishy stuff, whether you like it or not.



    Reply
    Quote Originally Posted by j-walk:


    Do you not understand what Im saying?  You're making it sound like Las Vegas or oddsmakers have insider information or are responsible for the rigging.  So if they are purposely making the games close, then we can get super rich playing teasers.  So why would the books want close games?  How does that benefit them?  The answer is is DOESNT! It hurts them.  So this makes no sense, "Vegas" makes way more money when theres a blowout.


    I perfectly understand what you say but you just elect to skip on what I tell you, so here goes:
    • Teasers are for suckers - you tease and get extremely low odds in return, I personally would never do that unless if I would see extremely useful benefit of doing so.
    • I've never claimed that 100% of the games are rigged, they're not, you gotta keep things random - but in general don't expect to be able to forecast the games all the times neither.
    • I don't deny there is an element of randomness.
    • What I brought here are proofs of fishy things, and the NBA does have lots of fishy stuff, whether you like it or not.



     
    j-walk
    j-walk
    Banned
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Jan, 2006
    Posts: 1746
    Posted: Dec. 22, 2015 - 2:40 PM ET #27

    Quote Originally Posted by dontknowhowtobe:



    I perfectly understand what you say but you just elect to skip on what I tell you, so here goes:
    • Teasers are for suckers - you tease and get extremely low odds in return, I personally would never do that unless if I would see extremely useful benefit of doing so.
    • I've never claimed that 100% of the games are rigged, they're not, you gotta keep things random - but in general don't expect to be able to forecast the games all the times neither.
    • I don't deny there is an element of randomness.
    • What I brought here are proofs of fishy things, and the NBA does have lots of fishy stuff, whether you like it or not.


    Ok but here's the problem with this...You're saying the NBA itself is doing fishy things, but you're using spreads to prove it.  Therefore you are saying that "Vegas" or oddsmakers are involved in these fishy things.  So I'll ask again, how does making a game land very close to the spread help the oddsmakers?

    Reply
    Quote Originally Posted by dontknowhowtobe:



    I perfectly understand what you say but you just elect to skip on what I tell you, so here goes:
    • Teasers are for suckers - you tease and get extremely low odds in return, I personally would never do that unless if I would see extremely useful benefit of doing so.
    • I've never claimed that 100% of the games are rigged, they're not, you gotta keep things random - but in general don't expect to be able to forecast the games all the times neither.
    • I don't deny there is an element of randomness.
    • What I brought here are proofs of fishy things, and the NBA does have lots of fishy stuff, whether you like it or not.


    Ok but here's the problem with this...You're saying the NBA itself is doing fishy things, but you're using spreads to prove it.  Therefore you are saying that "Vegas" or oddsmakers are involved in these fishy things.  So I'll ask again, how does making a game land very close to the spread help the oddsmakers?

     
    dontknowhowtobe
    dontknowhowtobe
    Banned
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Dec, 2011
    Posts: 926
    Posted: Dec. 22, 2015 - 3:41 PM ET #28

    Quote Originally Posted by j-walk:


    Ok but here's the problem with this...You're saying the NBA itself is doing fishy things, but you're using spreads to prove it.  Therefore you are saying that "Vegas" or oddsmakers are involved in these fishy things.  So I'll ask again, how does making a game land very close to the spread help the oddsmakers?



    I never implied that "Vegas" or oddsmakers are the ones doing it! It could be the refs, it could be the organizers, the players, the coaches, it could be so many people ... I don't know and can't pinpoint at someone but it's there and just be aware that it's there, whether you like it or not.

    Reply
    Quote Originally Posted by j-walk:


    Ok but here's the problem with this...You're saying the NBA itself is doing fishy things, but you're using spreads to prove it.  Therefore you are saying that "Vegas" or oddsmakers are involved in these fishy things.  So I'll ask again, how does making a game land very close to the spread help the oddsmakers?



    I never implied that "Vegas" or oddsmakers are the ones doing it! It could be the refs, it could be the organizers, the players, the coaches, it could be so many people ... I don't know and can't pinpoint at someone but it's there and just be aware that it's there, whether you like it or not.

     
    j-walk
    j-walk
    Banned
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Jan, 2006
    Posts: 1746
    Posted: Dec. 22, 2015 - 3:58 PM ET #29

    Quote Originally Posted by dontknowhowtobe:



    I never implied that "Vegas" or oddsmakers are the ones doing it! It could be the refs, it could be the organizers, the players, the coaches, it could be so many people ... I don't know and can't pinpoint at someone but it's there and just be aware that it's there, whether you like it or not.


    Well I could make the case that when a game lands on or super close to the spread that it's proof the game was NOT rigged.  Because what benefit does that serve?  It raises suspicion, its risky (if you're a ref trying to make money and fix the game) and the people who would be running the fix lose more money making the game close vs making it an outright blowout.  

    So the points you made in the beginning, would make more sense as proof that those games were not fixed.
    Reply
    Quote Originally Posted by dontknowhowtobe:



    I never implied that "Vegas" or oddsmakers are the ones doing it! It could be the refs, it could be the organizers, the players, the coaches, it could be so many people ... I don't know and can't pinpoint at someone but it's there and just be aware that it's there, whether you like it or not.


    Well I could make the case that when a game lands on or super close to the spread that it's proof the game was NOT rigged.  Because what benefit does that serve?  It raises suspicion, its risky (if you're a ref trying to make money and fix the game) and the people who would be running the fix lose more money making the game close vs making it an outright blowout.  

    So the points you made in the beginning, would make more sense as proof that those games were not fixed.
     
    Coverlkablanket
    Coverlkablanket
    Rookie
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Oct, 2010
    Posts: 974
    Posted: Dec. 22, 2015 - 4:52 PM ET #30

     J Walk makes more sense here.  Interesting read though.
    Reply
     J Walk makes more sense here.  Interesting read though.
     
     
    microterf
    microterf
    Prospect
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Nov, 2015
    Posts: 95
    Posted: Dec. 22, 2015 - 5:55 PM ET #31

    This is confirmation bias.  You're only looking at a few situations to sell your story.  Not saying that it couldn't, or it doesn't happen.  Just saying that your explanation isn't proof of it.  

       This is like saying prayer works because my aunt got a loan for a house after praying.  have to dismisses all of the 20K children who starve to death every day and pray for food to make any case for prayer working.  
    Reply
    This is confirmation bias.  You're only looking at a few situations to sell your story.  Not saying that it couldn't, or it doesn't happen.  Just saying that your explanation isn't proof of it.  

       This is like saying prayer works because my aunt got a loan for a house after praying.  have to dismisses all of the 20K children who starve to death every day and pray for food to make any case for prayer working.  
    All Forums | NBA Betting Forum
    «First Previous 12

    Hot Forums IconHot Forum Topics

    • Claiming Prizes 57,608
    • 🏈🏈🏈 Fubah2's risky CFB bets 265,087
    • PART DEUX 206
    • Sunday 09/27/2026 430
    • NFL LOCKED IN! 101,717
    • Sunday 1,730
    • ***Macwesties * Thur. * Sun. Sept. 24, 27, 2026 * Week #3 * NFL Football Plays* 8,470
    • NCAA FOOTBALL. 151 28,466
    • Chargers/Bills 3,206
    • Las Vegas Raiders @ New Orleans Saints 5,990

    Warning - External Link

    Report User

    Thank you for reporting
    This content is abusive or harmful
    This post is spam
    An error has occurred
    This site is protected by reCAPTCHA and the Google Privacy Policy and Terms of Service apply.

    Delete Post

    Are you sure you would like to remove this post?

    Remove Thread

    Are you sure you would like to remove this thread?

    Scan Results

    Login/Register

    Happy to have you join the conversation. To do so, please login or create an account.
    Accounts are free and easy to create.

    Search


    Loading…

    Loading…

    About Us
    Contact Us
    Careers
    Our Team
    Brand
    Testimonials
    Betting Guides
    Sportsbook Reviews
    Betting News
    Podcasts
    Responsible Gambling
    Betting Sites
    US Betting Sites
    Canada Betting Sites
    Canada Casinos
    Best Betting Apps
    Contests
    Streak Survivor
    King of Covers
    Ultimate Race
    Office Pools
    The Covers community has
    810,221
    lifetime members worldwide
    Join our community today
    Covers 30 Years Logo Established in 1995,
    Covers is the world
    leader in sports
    betting information.
    21+
    Gambling problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER
    Help Privacy Terms of Service Cookies Sitemap Forum
    YouTube logo
    Facebook logo
    Twitter logo
    Instagram logo
    LinkedIn logo
    Google News logo
    Covers is verified safe by:
    Evalon Logo Logo GPWA Logo GDPR logo Logo GeoTrust logo Logo PCI DSS logo Logo
    Copyright © 1995 - 2026 Genius Sports. All Rights Reserved.
    If you choose to make use of any information on this website including online sports betting services from any websites that may be featured on this website, we strongly recommend that you carefully check your local laws before doing so.It is your sole responsibility to understand your local laws and observe them strictly.Covers does not provide any advice or guidance as to the legality of online sports betting or other online gambling activities within your jurisdiction and you are responsible for complying with laws that are applicable to you in your relevant locality.Covers disclaims all liability associated with your use of this website and use of any information contained on it.As a condition of using this website, you agree to hold the owner of this website harmless from any claims arising from your use of any services on any third party website that may be featured by Covers.