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    Posted: Jul. 11, 2014 - 3:49 PM ET #26

    He said all of the easy things and the right things.  The only thing that I didn't respect about him before today was The Decision 4 years ago.  He carried the Heat team all season and now will have 1 and maybe 2 superstars along side him again in Cleveland.

    It was the RIGHT BASKETBALL MOVE.  Wade has 2 maybe 3 years left...Bosh can't play center and be physical enough in the Eastern Conference...and they didn't have a bench.  Now he goes "home" to Cleveland with Irving and Thompson and Varejao and Waiters...a good crew of young talent that LBJ can mold into what he wants them to be.
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    He said all of the easy things and the right things.  The only thing that I didn't respect about him before today was The Decision 4 years ago.  He carried the Heat team all season and now will have 1 and maybe 2 superstars along side him again in Cleveland.

    It was the RIGHT BASKETBALL MOVE.  Wade has 2 maybe 3 years left...Bosh can't play center and be physical enough in the Eastern Conference...and they didn't have a bench.  Now he goes "home" to Cleveland with Irving and Thompson and Varejao and Waiters...a good crew of young talent that LBJ can mold into what he wants them to be.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 11, 2014 - 3:51 PM ET #27

    Quote Originally Posted by CMJohnson1:

    I'd say Cleveland's roster RIGHT NOW is better than what Miami had the past couple of years.  Kyrie Irving is a lot better than Wade or Bosh was...Varejao/Thompson inside is a decent combo...and if they keep Wiggins they have an x-factor that can learn from the best in the league or be traded for a veteran player.

    What are you saying...
    Irving =no defense and terrible team player
    Wiggins=great Upside but rookie
    I like Waiters...good defender and penetrator...i'll give you that
    The others?no ability to score...(no more jack)
    this team will NEVER win anything with this current roster.If they upgrade...maybe something can be done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CMJohnson1:

    I'd say Cleveland's roster RIGHT NOW is better than what Miami had the past couple of years.  Kyrie Irving is a lot better than Wade or Bosh was...Varejao/Thompson inside is a decent combo...and if they keep Wiggins they have an x-factor that can learn from the best in the league or be traded for a veteran player.

    What are you saying...
    Irving =no defense and terrible team player
    Wiggins=great Upside but rookie
    I like Waiters...good defender and penetrator...i'll give you that
    The others?no ability to score...(no more jack)
    this team will NEVER win anything with this current roster.If they upgrade...maybe something can be done.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 11, 2014 - 3:51 PM ET #28

    it would be incredibly special if he won one for cle

    I speak for most of us here on cover saying we are pulling for him

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    it would be incredibly special if he won one for cle

    I speak for most of us here on cover saying we are pulling for him

     
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    Posted: Jul. 11, 2014 - 4:21 PM ET #29

    That Pat Riley interview definitely did more damage than good. 
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    That Pat Riley interview definitely did more damage than good. 
     
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    Posted: Jul. 11, 2014 - 4:51 PM ET #30

    Quote Originally Posted by SportsMedic:


    What an ignorant post.

    I think you should check what the word ignorant means before you use it in a sentence.  Don't know how anything I said was "ignorant."
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    Quote Originally Posted by SportsMedic:


    What an ignorant post.

    I think you should check what the word ignorant means before you use it in a sentence.  Don't know how anything I said was "ignorant."
     
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    Posted: Jul. 11, 2014 - 4:55 PM ET #31

    Kobe he Wasn't A free agent when he was bitchinn jackasss .
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    Posted: Jul. 11, 2014 - 4:56 PM ET #32

    What fuckingg two superstars is he playin Witt ?? Last I checked Cavs have been a lottery team in the sorry east for 4 years now
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    What fuckingg two superstars is he playin Witt ?? Last I checked Cavs have been a lottery team in the sorry east for 4 years now
     
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    Posted: Jul. 11, 2014 - 4:59 PM ET #33

    Kyrie has potential bu. CM Johnson let's not be stupid u have to much basketball knowledge to no that LeBron could have picked 3 or 4 better teams to pick to compete for a chip
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    Kyrie has potential bu. CM Johnson let's not be stupid u have to much basketball knowledge to no that LeBron could have picked 3 or 4 better teams to pick to compete for a chip
     
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    Posted: Jul. 11, 2014 - 5:09 PM ET #34

    Sorry for ranting a little but every time I see a Kobe comment it's almost like this man can't be serious lmao . Kobe has had better championchip teams then lebron. Superior coaching then lebron. Better front office help then LeBron. Ask Kobe if Kobe would have stayed in Cleveland if he was LeBron in 2010 and he would tell u he would lol
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    Sorry for ranting a little but every time I see a Kobe comment it's almost like this man can't be serious lmao . Kobe has had better championchip teams then lebron. Superior coaching then lebron. Better front office help then LeBron. Ask Kobe if Kobe would have stayed in Cleveland if he was LeBron in 2010 and he would tell u he would lol
     
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    Posted: Jul. 11, 2014 - 5:56 PM ET #35

    opening night mia vs cle.. make it happen silver
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    Posted: Jul. 11, 2014 - 7:28 PM ET #36

    Quote Originally Posted by Unplug:

    how can any1 support lebron? the supposed best player is now on his 3rd team in 5 years BY CHOICE!

    name one player in any sport that was younger than 34/35 to do that

    technically its only 2 teams
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unplug:

    how can any1 support lebron? the supposed best player is now on his 3rd team in 5 years BY CHOICE!

    name one player in any sport that was younger than 34/35 to do that

    technically its only 2 teams
     
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    Posted: Jul. 11, 2014 - 7:37 PM ET #37

    Quote Originally Posted by KobezKing:

    Jford i guess u never heard the phrase " actions speak louder than words". So what kobe demanded trade. He did that to force managements hand to build roster. Did he leave??? Exactly he stayed an toughed it out


    toughed what out? kobe has been the nba's version of a spoiled rich heiress his whole career 

    draft night: pouted way off hornets, lucked out that the best center in the league was also headed the same team via free agency, wins three titles on his back yet somehow manages to get most of the credit today 

    2003 offseason: caused major distraction for team with off the court issues 

    2004 finals: cost his team a title by freezing a prime shaq out of the offense 

    2004 offseason: ran the best player in the league off the team and got the best coach fired 

    2005-07: lottery/1st round exits, played well but can blame no one but himself for having no help  

    07 playoffs: quit on his team 2nd half of suns series game 7 

    07 offseason: demanded his entire team gets traded. if life was fair he would have been stuck in the lottery the rest of his career but as with big market teams it doesn't work that way 

    08 season: one of the players he demanded to have shipped out(bynum) turned into one of the best centers in the league, got another free all star center in one of the most lopsided trades of the decade. assumes most of the credit for the stacked teams assembled by the front office. put kobe on lebron's 2007-10 cavaliers teams and he wouldn't even get into the playoffs. 

    2013 season: played only one side of the ball and left a hobbled dwight howard to clean up his defensive mistakes, yet amazingly escapes unscathed again while d12 becomes the scapegoat 

    classic definition of born on 3rd base and thinks he hit a home run rofl 
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    Quote Originally Posted by KobezKing:

    Jford i guess u never heard the phrase " actions speak louder than words". So what kobe demanded trade. He did that to force managements hand to build roster. Did he leave??? Exactly he stayed an toughed it out


    toughed what out? kobe has been the nba's version of a spoiled rich heiress his whole career 

    draft night: pouted way off hornets, lucked out that the best center in the league was also headed the same team via free agency, wins three titles on his back yet somehow manages to get most of the credit today 

    2003 offseason: caused major distraction for team with off the court issues 

    2004 finals: cost his team a title by freezing a prime shaq out of the offense 

    2004 offseason: ran the best player in the league off the team and got the best coach fired 

    2005-07: lottery/1st round exits, played well but can blame no one but himself for having no help  

    07 playoffs: quit on his team 2nd half of suns series game 7 

    07 offseason: demanded his entire team gets traded. if life was fair he would have been stuck in the lottery the rest of his career but as with big market teams it doesn't work that way 

    08 season: one of the players he demanded to have shipped out(bynum) turned into one of the best centers in the league, got another free all star center in one of the most lopsided trades of the decade. assumes most of the credit for the stacked teams assembled by the front office. put kobe on lebron's 2007-10 cavaliers teams and he wouldn't even get into the playoffs. 

    2013 season: played only one side of the ball and left a hobbled dwight howard to clean up his defensive mistakes, yet amazingly escapes unscathed again while d12 becomes the scapegoat 

    classic definition of born on 3rd base and thinks he hit a home run rofl 
     
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    Posted: Jul. 11, 2014 - 7:50 PM ET #38

    totally psycho
    you say all that yet Kobe has won 5 rings
    lebron 2 out of 4 with a built all star team..
    ur basically a Kobe hater or at least sound like one. good for u...
    get over it.. Kobe almost out of the league and the real star in KD is rising.. so start hating on him too now ....
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    totally psycho
    you say all that yet Kobe has won 5 rings
    lebron 2 out of 4 with a built all star team..
    ur basically a Kobe hater or at least sound like one. good for u...
    get over it.. Kobe almost out of the league and the real star in KD is rising.. so start hating on him too now ....
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by v8sl8r:

    totally psycho
    you say all that yet Kobe has won 5 rings
    lebron 2 out of 4 with a built all star team..
    ur basically a Kobe hater or at least sound like one. good for u...
    get over it.. Kobe almost out of the league and the real star in KD is rising.. so start hating on him too now ....


    lol if lebron had kobe's team's throughout his career he'd have 10 rings kobe would be lucky to get one if he had lebron's teams 

    rings are a measurement of team success 

    suggest you look up definition of "critic" vs "hater" 
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    Quote Originally Posted by v8sl8r:

    totally psycho
    you say all that yet Kobe has won 5 rings
    lebron 2 out of 4 with a built all star team..
    ur basically a Kobe hater or at least sound like one. good for u...
    get over it.. Kobe almost out of the league and the real star in KD is rising.. so start hating on him too now ....


    lol if lebron had kobe's team's throughout his career he'd have 10 rings kobe would be lucky to get one if he had lebron's teams 

    rings are a measurement of team success 

    suggest you look up definition of "critic" vs "hater" 
     
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    Posted: Jul. 11, 2014 - 7:58 PM ET #40

    funny.. all star team in maimi and he goes 2 out of 4... yet his promise was back to back 7rings...
    yet with kobes team he's suppose to win 10...
    yeah keep telling yourself that..
    same could be said for if kobe, rose,kd,melo went to Miami instead of James they would have won back to back prolly 10 too
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    funny.. all star team in maimi and he goes 2 out of 4... yet his promise was back to back 7rings...
    yet with kobes team he's suppose to win 10...
    yeah keep telling yourself that..
    same could be said for if kobe, rose,kd,melo went to Miami instead of James they would have won back to back prolly 10 too
     
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    Posted: Jul. 11, 2014 - 8:00 PM ET #41

    what's next for u
    if lebron had Jordan's team he would have went his whole career to the finals..
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    if lebron had Jordan's team he would have went his whole career to the finals..
     
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    Posted: Jul. 11, 2014 - 8:19 PM ET #42

    Quote Originally Posted by v8sl8r:

    what's next for u
    if lebron had Jordan's team he would have went his whole career to the finals..


    jordan's teams no, kobe's teams YES. put jordan on kobe's teams he'd have more rings than fingers like phil 

    put anyone else in the league today on lebron's teams through his career. no one woulda done better than him 

    best player in nba for a reason 

    somehow people cant comprende that and instead of appreciating his talents just place more and more unreasonable demands on them instead, amazing 
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    Quote Originally Posted by v8sl8r:

    what's next for u
    if lebron had Jordan's team he would have went his whole career to the finals..


    jordan's teams no, kobe's teams YES. put jordan on kobe's teams he'd have more rings than fingers like phil 

    put anyone else in the league today on lebron's teams through his career. no one woulda done better than him 

    best player in nba for a reason 

    somehow people cant comprende that and instead of appreciating his talents just place more and more unreasonable demands on them instead, amazing 
     
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    Posted: Jul. 11, 2014 - 10:54 PM ET #43

    lebron does have talent yes.. best at driving to the basket hands down...shooting is over rated in my opinion ( again my 2 cents)..he did wonders for Cleveland no argument there
    but to say he could do better than Kobe is retarded.. but hey its it opinion... and to say no one else could do what he did in Miami.. I say Miami could win with out him. same team minus lebron.. yes they could.. and with any other NBA superstar... ecxpecially someone with Kobe's game.. I'd say 2 outta 4 is possible.. again.. bench won most of those games for lebron that counted and got no credit...
    hopefully he does turn around Cleveland again tho.. be nice to see Cleveland have something to cheer about since johnny football
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    lebron does have talent yes.. best at driving to the basket hands down...shooting is over rated in my opinion ( again my 2 cents)..he did wonders for Cleveland no argument there
    but to say he could do better than Kobe is retarded.. but hey its it opinion... and to say no one else could do what he did in Miami.. I say Miami could win with out him. same team minus lebron.. yes they could.. and with any other NBA superstar... ecxpecially someone with Kobe's game.. I'd say 2 outta 4 is possible.. again.. bench won most of those games for lebron that counted and got no credit...
    hopefully he does turn around Cleveland again tho.. be nice to see Cleveland have something to cheer about since johnny football
     
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    The funniest part is when he says bynum in 2008 turned into one of best centers in league. Bynum avg 6 pts in 09 finals and 7 pts in 2010 finals hahahahahah. Kobe an pau won those rings not bynum. With help from odum ariza etc. but for u to say kobes 09-10 teams were even close to miamis talent with lebron mite b the most moronic thing ive ever heard. Also i would argue kobe taking that suns team to 7 games was jusy as or more impressive than lebron getting to finals beating no one but a over the hill pistons team. The year kobe took suns to 7 the suns and spurs used to have battles against each other. Lebrons cleveland team was an allstar team compared to that lakers team and lebron woulda got swept by suns just like spurs swept him
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    The funniest part is when he says bynum in 2008 turned into one of best centers in league. Bynum avg 6 pts in 09 finals and 7 pts in 2010 finals hahahahahah. Kobe an pau won those rings not bynum. With help from odum ariza etc. but for u to say kobes 09-10 teams were even close to miamis talent with lebron mite b the most moronic thing ive ever heard. Also i would argue kobe taking that suns team to 7 games was jusy as or more impressive than lebron getting to finals beating no one but a over the hill pistons team. The year kobe took suns to 7 the suns and spurs used to have battles against each other. Lebrons cleveland team was an allstar team compared to that lakers team and lebron woulda got swept by suns just like spurs swept him
     
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    Posted: Jul. 12, 2014 - 1:52 AM ET #45

    Looking like Love might be headed to Cavs also....
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    Kobezking u bash him for leaving Cleveland and going to Miami to form the big 3 now he's going back to the team that drafted him and wants to bring a championship to that city yet u bash him still....honestly u just hate on him bottomline imagine James with shaq and his prime thy would haved stuck together for a very long time unlike Kobe he complains soo much he makes players leave...
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    Kobezking u bash him for leaving Cleveland and going to Miami to form the big 3 now he's going back to the team that drafted him and wants to bring a championship to that city yet u bash him still....honestly u just hate on him bottomline imagine James with shaq and his prime thy would haved stuck together for a very long time unlike Kobe he complains soo much he makes players leave...
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by jford0523:

    Kyrie has potential bu. CM Johnson let's not be stupid u have to much basketball knowledge to no that LeBron could have picked 3 or 4 better teams to pick to compete for a chip


    What team that was actively pursuing him had a better roster right now?  What team that was pursuing him had a talent as young as Irving?  The only thing worse than the decision 4 years ago would have been if he had gone somewhere like New York or LA...then he would have been the ultimate traitor.  It was only Miami or Cleveland from the very beginning
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    Kyrie has potential bu. CM Johnson let's not be stupid u have to much basketball knowledge to no that LeBron could have picked 3 or 4 better teams to pick to compete for a chip


    What team that was actively pursuing him had a better roster right now?  What team that was pursuing him had a talent as young as Irving?  The only thing worse than the decision 4 years ago would have been if he had gone somewhere like New York or LA...then he would have been the ultimate traitor.  It was only Miami or Cleveland from the very beginning
     
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    Starting lineup previews:

    Cleveland - Irving, Wiggins, James, Varejao, Thompson
    Miami - Napier, Wade, Granger, McRoberts, Bosh
    New York - Calderon, Shumpert, Anthony, Martin, Bargnani
    Chicago - Rose, Butler, Hinrich, Gasol, Noah
    Indiana - Hill, Turner, George, West, Hibbert

    SA Spurs - Parker, Green, Leonard, Diaw, Duncan
    Oklahoma City - Westbrook, Lamb, Jones, Durant, Ibaka
    Houston - Beverley, Harden, Parsons, Jones, Howard
    LA Lakers - Lin, Bryant, Young, Randle, Hill 
    LA Clippers - Paul, Redick, Barnes, Griffin, Jordan
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    Starting lineup previews:

    Cleveland - Irving, Wiggins, James, Varejao, Thompson
    Miami - Napier, Wade, Granger, McRoberts, Bosh
    New York - Calderon, Shumpert, Anthony, Martin, Bargnani
    Chicago - Rose, Butler, Hinrich, Gasol, Noah
    Indiana - Hill, Turner, George, West, Hibbert

    SA Spurs - Parker, Green, Leonard, Diaw, Duncan
    Oklahoma City - Westbrook, Lamb, Jones, Durant, Ibaka
    Houston - Beverley, Harden, Parsons, Jones, Howard
    LA Lakers - Lin, Bryant, Young, Randle, Hill 
    LA Clippers - Paul, Redick, Barnes, Griffin, Jordan
     
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    Posted: Jul. 12, 2014 - 3:47 PM ET #49

    Napier is not starting over Cole.  
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    Posted: Jul. 12, 2014 - 4:00 PM ET #50

    Quote Originally Posted by examine:

    it would be incredibly special if he won one for cle

    I speak for most of us here on cover saying we are pulling for him

     

    You don't speak for ANYONE on covers so stfu.

     

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    it would be incredibly special if he won one for cle

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