Posted:
#376
Quote Originally Posted by scooby-doos:
didn't delonte west take down lebron's mom?
didn't delonte west take down lebron's mom?
DID HER!
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Lebron James is 1000x better than Michael Jordan
Posted:
#377
https://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2012/story/_/id/8068148/nba-playoffs-top-25-performances-ever
Nuff said.
Nuff said.
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Posted:
#380
Quote Originally Posted by Chino3y3z:
Fact, MJ did not call bird and magic to create the "BIG 3" in Chigaco.
Fact, LBJ would not even have a chance at a ring if not fer the likes of having to other stars playing with him to pick up his slack.
Fact, LBJ would have never gotten a ring if he stayed with Cavs.
Fact, MJ did not have to take a pay cut or shop fer a new team when he won championships.
So u dum retards get why LBJ is a bum compared to MJ?
Fact, MJ did not call bird and magic to create the "BIG 3" in Chigaco.
Fact, LBJ would not even have a chance at a ring if not fer the likes of having to other stars playing with him to pick up his slack.
Fact, LBJ would have never gotten a ring if he stayed with Cavs.
Fact, MJ did not have to take a pay cut or shop fer a new team when he won championships.
So u dum retards get why LBJ is a bum compared to MJ?
ARE YOU COMPARING BIRD AND MAGIC TO WADE AND BOSH, LMFAO.
Also, FACT: JORDAN TOOK LESS MONEY TWICE TO KEEP PIPPEN AND RODMAN. and I'd easily take pippen and Rodman over wade and bosh as a tandem. Only in the last 2 years of his deal did MJ get paid a ton.
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Posted:
#381
Quote Originally Posted by damaba6:
https://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2012/story/_/id/8068148/nba-playoffs-top-25-performances-ever
Nuff said.
https://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2012/story/_/id/8068148/nba-playoffs-top-25-performances-ever
Nuff said.
What's your point? MJ is up their 8 times. LBJ is up there 3 and last games performance will be up there as well considering it was only 1 rebound from a triple double and only Larry bird had ever put up those numbers in a finals game besides Lebron. So it will be MJ 8 and LBJ 4 and Lebron has 12 years left, at an average of what? Say 10 playoff games at min per year. So he's got 120 playoff games left. You don't think he will have min 4 more top 25 all time STAT performances. Your nutz. He has 1 a year for sure. So even if he has that for the next 10 years, he has 10 more all time performances in him. That will give him 14 to Jordan's 8. All these STAT comparisons are dumb. LBJ at the end of his career will have destroyed Jordan in every statistical stat and by far. What makes MJ the man is his closing, the way he changed the game in SOOO many ways. The championships. Never losing a finals or even really coming close. If your gonna compare stats then LBJ is the better player but as we know stats lie.
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Posted:
#382
Quote Originally Posted by Raging_Fetus:
MJ GOT EVERY CALL EVER. R U SERIOUS.
THE WHOLE stars get every call thing started with MJ and Gretzky. Then it moved to MLB where If Gwynn took a pitch they called it a ball even if it was on the corner because If Gwynn thought it was a ball it had to be and Maddux getting every call of every pitch 6 inches off the plate. MJ invented the you dare even breath on me, it's a foul And if yiu touch me it may be a flagrant game, Before him you could bash stars around all you wanted.
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Posted:
#385
Quote Originally Posted by Raging_Fetus:
What's your point? MJ is up their 8 times. LBJ is up there 3 and last games performance will be up there as well considering it was only 1 rebound from a triple double and only Larry bird had ever put up those numbers in a finals game besides Lebron. So it will be MJ 8 and LBJ 4 and Lebron has 12 years left, at an average of what? Say 10 playoff games at min per year. So he's got 120 playoff games left. You don't think he will have min 4 more top 25 all time STAT performances. Your nutz. He has 1 a year for sure. So even if he has that for the next 10 years, he has 10 more all time performances in him. That will give him 14 to Jordan's 8. All these STAT comparisons are dumb. LBJ at the end of his career will have destroyed Jordan in every statistical stat and by far. What makes MJ the man is his closing, the way he changed the game in SOOO many ways. The championships. Never losing a finals or even really coming close. If your gonna compare stats then LBJ is the better player but as we know stats lie.
Now your just making things up.
James is beginning to write is resume, and it's lookinjg pretty impressive, but in the end he won't do a number of things that MJ has done.
MJ has 200 steals and 100 blocks in the same season and he did it twice. All the remaing players in history combined have done this 2 times.
James ? Has not done either, let-alone do both in the same season.
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Posted:
#386
Quote Originally Posted by theclaw:
Now your just making things up.
James is beginning to write is resume, and it's lookinjg pretty impressive, but in the end he won't do a number of things that MJ has done.
MJ has 200 steals and 100 blocks in the same season and he did it twice. All the remaing players in history combined have done this 2 times.
James ? Has not done either, let-alone do both in the same season.
Are you kidding me? Where to start?
NOW FOR THE STATS: (IM A JORDAN GUY BTW, IM ONLY DEFENDING LBJ BECAUSE I THINK THE MADE UP BASHING IS GETTING OLD.)
1. LBJ is the ONLY player in NBA history to average at least 26 points, 6 rebounds and 6 assists for their career. NOT MJ
2. LBJ is the ONLY player in NBA history to post at least 2000 points, 500 rebounds, 500 assists and 100 steals in four straight seasons. NOT MJ
3. LBJ is one of three players in NBA history to average at least 30 points, 10 rebounds and 7 assists in a postseason series. NOT MJ
4. LBJ is 2nd place all-time for consecutive 20-point games to start a playoff career with 19. Behind Kareem
5. LBJ is one of two players in NBA history to post at least 2000 points, 500 rebounds and 500 assists in a season for at least six seasons. The big "O" the other one. NOT MJ
6. LBJ is one of two players in NBA history to average at least 27 points, 6 rebounds and 6 assists for six consecutive seasons. Behind Oscar Robertson, who achieved this eight consecutive times. NOT JORDAN
7. LBJ is one of two players in NBA history to win the NBA Player of the Month Award four times for two consecutive seasons. MJ never did this.
8. LBJ most consecutive points scored for a team in a playoff game with 25 straight points.
9. LBJ 39 triple doubles, MJ 27.
10. JORDAN HAD 2,514 career steals and 893 blocks. LEBRON ALREADY HAS 1,200 Steals and 600 blocks.
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Posted:
#387
Quote Originally Posted by Raging_Fetus:
Are you kidding me? Where to start?
NOW FOR THE STATS: (IM A JORDAN GUY BTW, IM ONLY DEFENDING LBJ BECAUSE I THINK THE MADE UP BASHING IS GETTING OLD.)
1. LBJ is the ONLY player in NBA history to average at least 26 points, 6 rebounds and 6 assists for their career. NOT MJ
2. LBJ is the ONLY player in NBA history to post at least 2000 points, 500 rebounds, 500 assists and 100 steals in four straight seasons. NOT MJ
3. LBJ is one of three players in NBA history to average at least 30 points, 10 rebounds and 7 assists in a postseason series. NOT MJ
4. LBJ is 2nd place all-time for consecutive 20-point games to start a playoff career with 19. Behind Kareem
5. LBJ is one of two players in NBA history to post at least 2000 points, 500 rebounds and 500 assists in a season for at least six seasons. The big "O" the other one. NOT MJ
6. LBJ is one of two players in NBA history to average at least 27 points, 6 rebounds and 6 assists for six consecutive seasons. Behind Oscar Robertson, who achieved this eight consecutive times. NOT JORDAN
7. LBJ is one of two players in NBA history to win the NBA Player of the Month Award four times for two consecutive seasons. MJ never did this.
8. LBJ most consecutive points scored for a team in a playoff game with 25 straight points.
9. LBJ 39 triple doubles, MJ 27.
10. JORDAN HAD 2,514 career steals and 893 blocks. LEBRON ALREADY HAS 1,200 Steals and 600 blocks.
And you could make up a list of 10 stats in which MJ beats lebron too. Goes both ways. and don't mention career steals for lebron comparing him to MJ. You say lebron already has 1200 steals (in 10 seasons). At that rate he would have 2400 steals in his 20th season in the NBA and still fall short of Mj's steals so it's not really comparable at this point.
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Posted:
#390
Quote Originally Posted by mylife23:
he said Michael Jordan was the only good player in the NBA and they didn't play any defense
he said Michael Jordan was the only good player in the NBA and they didn't play any defense
well it does sound too extreme but if you think about it he makes a valid point..
watch some tapes of bulls+Jordan in finals,playoffs
.. It was all too easy for bulls
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Posted:
#391
Quote Originally Posted by earl24343:
well it does sound too extreme but if you think about it he makes a valid point..
watch some tapes of bulls+Jordan in finals,playoffs..
It was all too easy for bulls
well it does sound too extreme but if you think about it he makes a valid point..
watch some tapes of bulls+Jordan in finals,playoffs
.. It was all too easy for bulls
No he doesn't make a valid point. Look at the Heat's run through the east playoffs this year. You think the teams they faced are better than the jordan era teams? Some of you guys are completely clueless and have no sense of history of the NBA.
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Posted:
#394
Okay, to all those idiots that stated Lebron James wouldnt get a ring, im laughing at every single one of you soo hard you have no clue. You have no clue. You seriously have no clue. It's so amazingly good fun its unbeliveable. Also to all those kids saying Michael Fraudon is better than LeBron James, there are no words to describe how dumb you are, there really isnt. LeBron is on a totally higher level, totally different.
Now, let me break it down for you, let me break down the tools they have available:
Michael Jordan:
Lets look at the awesome teammates:
- Scottie Pippen
- Dennis Rodman
- Toni Kukoc,
- Charles Oakley
- John Paxson
-Horace Grant
- Phil Jackson
^ That is ALOT of awesome people he had available in the tool box!
- Michael Jordan played at a time where they didnt play defense at all compared to now, defense is the cornerstone for lots of NBA teams.
- Michael Jordan got every single call. ALL THE TIME.
- Michael Jordan had an awesome coach
- Michael Jordan had an awesome bench with lots of depth
- Michael Jordan have had great players all around him
Now, lets look at Lebron
Lebron James:
- Dwyane Wade --- What wade? The wade that was only good in 2006, and the guy that every1 moans about on this board? Every night i see over 20 new threads saying how horrible wade is.
- Chris Bosh - Is only doing good because lebron makes him good, look when they lost him, Lebron was still able to carry them through without bosh and he is supposed to "a big star" lol? What a joke.
- Horrible coach - jeez some decisions he takes
- Never gets any calls - look at the boston series, the same play pierce made wasnt called on lebron.
- Horrible horrible bench without any depth at all, it hurts my eyes to look at such a horrible bench. Lebron could have carried them through and earned them a 10 point lead, then as soon as he makes it to the bench, boooooooooooooooom there goes that lovely 10 point lead in a matter of seconds.
Miami without lebron wouldnt be anywhere near a playoff contender, not anywhere near that.
You are so pathetic if you think Michael Fraudon is even close to LeBrons level, that is the dumbest thing i have ever read on this board, man gotta be so dumb if he is honest when he is saying that. But of course, lots of trolls on this board so im not so surprised, but if anyone is seriously deep into the bottom of their heart thinks that Fraudon is even close to LeBron: Then you are so retarded that there isn't words to describe how dumb and retarded you are.
Now, let me break it down for you, let me break down the tools they have available:
Michael Jordan:
Lets look at the awesome teammates:
- Scottie Pippen
- Dennis Rodman
- Toni Kukoc,
- Charles Oakley
- John Paxson
-Horace Grant
- Phil Jackson
^ That is ALOT of awesome people he had available in the tool box!
- Michael Jordan played at a time where they didnt play defense at all compared to now, defense is the cornerstone for lots of NBA teams.
- Michael Jordan got every single call. ALL THE TIME.
- Michael Jordan had an awesome coach
- Michael Jordan had an awesome bench with lots of depth
- Michael Jordan have had great players all around him
Now, lets look at Lebron
Lebron James:
- Dwyane Wade --- What wade? The wade that was only good in 2006, and the guy that every1 moans about on this board? Every night i see over 20 new threads saying how horrible wade is.
- Chris Bosh - Is only doing good because lebron makes him good, look when they lost him, Lebron was still able to carry them through without bosh and he is supposed to "a big star" lol? What a joke.
- Horrible coach - jeez some decisions he takes
- Never gets any calls - look at the boston series, the same play pierce made wasnt called on lebron.
- Horrible horrible bench without any depth at all, it hurts my eyes to look at such a horrible bench. Lebron could have carried them through and earned them a 10 point lead, then as soon as he makes it to the bench, boooooooooooooooom there goes that lovely 10 point lead in a matter of seconds.
Miami without lebron wouldnt be anywhere near a playoff contender, not anywhere near that.
You are so pathetic if you think Michael Fraudon is even close to LeBrons level, that is the dumbest thing i have ever read on this board, man gotta be so dumb if he is honest when he is saying that. But of course, lots of trolls on this board so im not so surprised, but if anyone is seriously deep into the bottom of their heart thinks that Fraudon is even close to LeBron: Then you are so retarded that there isn't words to describe how dumb and retarded you are.
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Posted:
#395
Quote Originally Posted by BostonCelticFTW:
Okay, to all those idiots that stated Lebron James wouldnt get a ring, im laughing at every single one of you soo hard you have no clue. You have no clue. You seriously have no clue. It's so amazingly good fun its unbeliveable. Also to all those kids saying Michael Fraudon is better than LeBron James, there are no words to describe how dumb you are, there really isnt. LeBron is on a totally higher level, totally different.
Now, let me break it down for you, let me break down the tools they have available:
Michael Jordan:
Lets look at the awesome teammates:
- Scottie Pippen
- Dennis Rodman
- Toni Kukoc,
- Charles Oakley
- John Paxson
-Horace Grant
- Phil Jackson
^ That is ALOT of awesome people he had available in the tool box!
- Michael Jordan played at a time where they didnt play defense at all compared to now, defense is the cornerstone for lots of NBA teams.
- Michael Jordan got every single call. ALL THE TIME.
- Michael Jordan had an awesome coach
- Michael Jordan had an awesome bench with lots of depth
- Michael Jordan have had great players all around him
Now, lets look at Lebron
Lebron James:
- Dwyane Wade --- What wade? The wade that was only good in 2006, and the guy that every1 moans about on this board? Every night i see over 20 new threads saying how horrible wade is.
- Chris Bosh - Is only doing good because lebron makes him good, look when they lost him, Lebron was still able to carry them through without bosh and he is supposed to "a big star" lol? What a joke.
- Horrible coach - jeez some decisions he takes
- Never gets any calls - look at the boston series, the same play pierce made wasnt called on lebron.
- Horrible horrible bench without any depth at all, it hurts my eyes to look at such a horrible bench. Lebron could have carried them through and earned them a 10 point lead, then as soon as he makes it to the bench, boooooooooooooooom there goes that lovely 10 point lead in a matter of seconds.
Miami without lebron wouldnt be anywhere near a playoff contender, not anywhere near that.
You are so pathetic if you think Michael Fraudon is even close to LeBrons level, that is the dumbest thing i have ever read on this board, man gotta be so dumb if he is honest when he is saying that. But of course, lots of trolls on this board so im not so surprised, but if anyone is seriously deep into the bottom of their heart thinks that Fraudon is even close to LeBron: Then you are so retarded that there isn't words to describe how dumb and retarded you are.
Okay, to all those idiots that stated Lebron James wouldnt get a ring, im laughing at every single one of you soo hard you have no clue. You have no clue. You seriously have no clue. It's so amazingly good fun its unbeliveable. Also to all those kids saying Michael Fraudon is better than LeBron James, there are no words to describe how dumb you are, there really isnt. LeBron is on a totally higher level, totally different.
Now, let me break it down for you, let me break down the tools they have available:
Michael Jordan:
Lets look at the awesome teammates:
- Scottie Pippen
- Dennis Rodman
- Toni Kukoc,
- Charles Oakley
- John Paxson
-Horace Grant
- Phil Jackson
^ That is ALOT of awesome people he had available in the tool box!
- Michael Jordan played at a time where they didnt play defense at all compared to now, defense is the cornerstone for lots of NBA teams.
- Michael Jordan got every single call. ALL THE TIME.
- Michael Jordan had an awesome coach
- Michael Jordan had an awesome bench with lots of depth
- Michael Jordan have had great players all around him
Now, lets look at Lebron
Lebron James:
- Dwyane Wade --- What wade? The wade that was only good in 2006, and the guy that every1 moans about on this board? Every night i see over 20 new threads saying how horrible wade is.
- Chris Bosh - Is only doing good because lebron makes him good, look when they lost him, Lebron was still able to carry them through without bosh and he is supposed to "a big star" lol? What a joke.
- Horrible coach - jeez some decisions he takes
- Never gets any calls - look at the boston series, the same play pierce made wasnt called on lebron.
- Horrible horrible bench without any depth at all, it hurts my eyes to look at such a horrible bench. Lebron could have carried them through and earned them a 10 point lead, then as soon as he makes it to the bench, boooooooooooooooom there goes that lovely 10 point lead in a matter of seconds.
Miami without lebron wouldnt be anywhere near a playoff contender, not anywhere near that.
You are so pathetic if you think Michael Fraudon is even close to LeBrons level, that is the dumbest thing i have ever read on this board, man gotta be so dumb if he is honest when he is saying that. But of course, lots of trolls on this board so im not so surprised, but if anyone is seriously deep into the bottom of their heart thinks that Fraudon is even close to LeBron: Then you are so retarded that there isn't words to describe how dumb and retarded you are.
Ur whole write up is completely wrong so not sure where to start. You stating that teams didn't play defense in Jordan's era is the most clueless statement I've ever heard. I couldn't even go on after that. It's clear that you never watched an NBA game in the 80's and 90's and are probably 15 years old. They actually allowed hand checking and let guys play physical in that era. Teams defensively are nowhere near the level they were in the 80's and 90's. Just google best defensive teams in the history of the NBA and let me know what you find
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Posted:
#399
Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81:
And you could make up a list of 10 stats in which MJ beats lebron too. Goes both ways. and don't mention career steals for lebron comparing him to MJ. You say lebron already has 1200 steals (in 10 seasons). At that rate he would have 2400 steals in his 20th season in the NBA and still fall short of Mj's steals so it's not really comparable at this point.
And you could make up a list of 10 stats in which MJ beats lebron too. Goes both ways. and don't mention career steals for lebron comparing him to MJ. You say lebron already has 1200 steals (in 10 seasons). At that rate he would have 2400 steals in his 20th season in the NBA and still fall short of Mj's steals so it's not really comparable at this point.
True but funny how you didn't include career blocks where Lebron will be over a 1000. And Lebron has 10 more years left easily.
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Posted:
#400
I've been defending Lebron alot in this thread but the idea MJ didn't have to play defensive teams. WHAT!!!! The Knicks with Oakley, Ewing, Starks etc... The Sonics in the finals with the Glove and maybe some of the best team defense around. The Jazz played D. The PISTONS, OMG. UNREAL DEFENSIVELY. the heat of the 90's with Zo. The pacers played extremely tough D. What about the orginal hornets with Zo, Larry Johnson, Mugsy Bogues, they were great defensively. You can find stats for both guys. I do think if Phil Jackson never comes along with the Triangle MJ doesn't win close to 6. Took him till year what 8? To win one. And that was with Phil's system. He never single handedly led the team off an on the court. LBJ is the COACH IN MIAMI, and that's not debateable.. Spolstra is only a figure head and every knowledgeable NBA pro writer says the same thing. Lebron decides what to run and when to run it. Not Spolstra. Hell Riley has meetings with LBJ without Spoltra there, what does that say!
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