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    James Harden like Westbrook are team killers. They bring down great teams

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    Posted: Mar. 4, 2022 - 7:49 PM ET #1

     

    You have more value than Harden or Westbrook. No pro team should have these guys on their team and its clear why. They can not play team ball. Their skill is fitted more for college or street basketball. Their game is not professional enough and every team that takes a chance on these guys LOSE and fall apart.

    You need to put Harden on the bench and have him come up as a 7th man and play with the bench.

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    You have more value than Harden or Westbrook. No pro team should have these guys on their team and its clear why. They can not play team ball. Their skill is fitted more for college or street basketball. Their game is not professional enough and every team that takes a chance on these guys LOSE and fall apart.

    You need to put Harden on the bench and have him come up as a 7th man and play with the bench.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 4, 2022 - 7:53 PM ET #2

    Everything the Cavs are putting up is going in it's not all his fault though he is an idiot. He already got 3 fouls, 2 offensive - one because he hasnt figured out the kick out isnt gonna be called on 3s any more you actually get an offensive for it and then he tried to drive into Love who has taken somewhere near the most charges in the league and is a vet he always gets that call.

     

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    Everything the Cavs are putting up is going in it's not all his fault though he is an idiot. He already got 3 fouls, 2 offensive - one because he hasnt figured out the kick out isnt gonna be called on 3s any more you actually get an offensive for it and then he tried to drive into Love who has taken somewhere near the most charges in the league and is a vet he always gets that call.

     

     
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    Posted: Mar. 4, 2022 - 7:56 PM ET #3

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     Where was this comment the last couple of games since harden played for the 76ers and they won?

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     Where was this comment the last couple of games since harden played for the 76ers and they won?

     
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    I know right, it's not like Ben Simmons was helping them. I still don't see why they needed to add 2 1s to Curry and Ben in that deal, one would have been more than enough but still it's been night and day the offense now they go from having a PG that can't shoot a 10 footer (who was sitting at home) to a guy can hit from everywhere.

    I was actually surprised how quickly Harden and Embiid seemed to develop chemistry. This game the Cavs are just shooting the lights out and playing inspired its lucky they are only down single digits.

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    I know right, it's not like Ben Simmons was helping them. I still don't see why they needed to add 2 1s to Curry and Ben in that deal, one would have been more than enough but still it's been night and day the offense now they go from having a PG that can't shoot a 10 footer (who was sitting at home) to a guy can hit from everywhere.

    I was actually surprised how quickly Harden and Embiid seemed to develop chemistry. This game the Cavs are just shooting the lights out and playing inspired its lucky they are only down single digits.

     
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    Quote: Originally Posted by davemsh]@DundasBearCatz  Where was this comment the last couple of games since harden played for the 76ers and they won?[/Quote]

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    Quote: Originally Posted by davemsh]@DundasBearCatz  Where was this comment the last couple of games since harden played for the 76ers and they won?[/Quote]

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    I got news for you..76ers are not going undefeated SU and ATS the remaining of the season...an_light

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    I got news for you..76ers are not going undefeated SU and ATS the remaining of the season...an_light

     
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    Posted: Mar. 4, 2022 - 8:46 PM ET #7

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     The public thinks so. They went 3-0 SUATS since all star break and acquiring Harden . Cavs got blown the eff out last game, Philly -7.5 is easy as it gets Dave an_cheers

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     The public thinks so. They went 3-0 SUATS since all star break and acquiring Harden . Cavs got blown the eff out last game, Philly -7.5 is easy as it gets Dave an_cheers

     
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    @davemsh

     No but they will go to the finals

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     No but they will go to the finals

     
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    Posted: Mar. 4, 2022 - 9:28 PM ET #9

    Lol and 76ers win the game 

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    Lol and 76ers win the game 

     
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    Posted: Mar. 5, 2022 - 6:34 AM ET #10

    76ers.....4-0 surprised

    since Harden's arrival...

    your commentary is brainless, and has no merit whatsoever.

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    76ers.....4-0 surprised

    since Harden's arrival...

    your commentary is brainless, and has no merit whatsoever.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 5, 2022 - 8:16 AM ET #11

    harden may not be a killer, but he works on his game a lot. his dribbling, moves, and shooting are top tier. 

     

    westbrook, on the other hand, relied on his athleticism for most of his career, and now that his athleticism has left him, he can't dribble past a defender, take an open shot, or make contested layups, pass to an open man or defend his man. 

     

    so yes, they both won't win as the #1 guy of a championship team... but harden can definitely help you get there.

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    harden may not be a killer, but he works on his game a lot. his dribbling, moves, and shooting are top tier. 

     

    westbrook, on the other hand, relied on his athleticism for most of his career, and now that his athleticism has left him, he can't dribble past a defender, take an open shot, or make contested layups, pass to an open man or defend his man. 

     

    so yes, they both won't win as the #1 guy of a championship team... but harden can definitely help you get there.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 5, 2022 - 9:00 AM ET #12

    hilarious. Westbrook sure, Harden is a basketball genius - when he wants to be

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    hilarious. Westbrook sure, Harden is a basketball genius - when he wants to be

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by crunch101:

    hilarious. Westbrook sure, Harden is a basketball genius - when he wants to be

    ...when he wants to be. It's hard to figure what makes that guy tick but this post is insane. Every team loses? This is only his 4th team and every team has been winners. None have won it all. Maybe that's what he meant.

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    hilarious. Westbrook sure, Harden is a basketball genius - when he wants to be

    ...when he wants to be. It's hard to figure what makes that guy tick but this post is insane. Every team loses? This is only his 4th team and every team has been winners. None have won it all. Maybe that's what he meant.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 5, 2022 - 12:26 PM ET #14

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    WOW they won. He is a hall of a famer. You are a clown. Harden is a terrible NBA player. He will kill the 76ers just like he did the last 3 teams. He is a horrible player NBA player.

    But congrats you won a bet cause you aren't even a fan of the game. 

    You will be where when he gets traded or released.

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    WOW they won. He is a hall of a famer. You are a clown. Harden is a terrible NBA player. He will kill the 76ers just like he did the last 3 teams. He is a horrible player NBA player.

    But congrats you won a bet cause you aren't even a fan of the game. 

    You will be where when he gets traded or released.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 5, 2022 - 12:27 PM ET #15

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    lol wow you are right. He is a hall of famer now. The 76ers won how many games without him? who are they playing on this schedule now? He is a terrible NBA player. He isn't even a top 10 guard in the NBA and you make him like he is legit. Then again, you probably think Lebron is top 5 player of all time lol.

    You lack knowledge of sports.

    But when the sixers struggle and he is to blame. You come back and say hello

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    lol wow you are right. He is a hall of famer now. The 76ers won how many games without him? who are they playing on this schedule now? He is a terrible NBA player. He isn't even a top 10 guard in the NBA and you make him like he is legit. Then again, you probably think Lebron is top 5 player of all time lol.

    You lack knowledge of sports.

    But when the sixers struggle and he is to blame. You come back and say hello

     
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    This is the dumbest post I’ve ever seen on Covers. Westbrook is just a big goon Harden is a superstar PG and the 76ers had a fake PG Ben Simmons sinking their ship. They finally have a PG leading their team. 

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    This is the dumbest post I’ve ever seen on Covers. Westbrook is just a big goon Harden is a superstar PG and the 76ers had a fake PG Ben Simmons sinking their ship. They finally have a PG leading their team. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by DundasBearCatz:

    @sports_Network   lol wow you are right. He is a hall of famer now. The 76ers won how many games without him? who are they playing on this schedule now? He is a terrible NBA player. He isn't even a top 10 guard in the NBA and you make him like he is legit. Then again, you probably think Lebron is top 5 player of all time lol. You lack knowledge of sports. But when the sixers struggle and he is to blame. You come back and say hello

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    He could've retired after last season, used his time to go door to door looking for you only to upon finding you, slap you across the face, poop on your front porch, and drink your last beer, and he still would've been a hall of famer. And I can't stand the dude. I'm literally a James Harden hater but even I acknowledge how talented of a basketball player he is. I couldn't stand the flopping. I'm a Warriors fan and I couldn't stand the drawing  contact on the gather only to flail, chuck the ball into the stands, and proceed the the free throw line for 3 attempts. Meanwhile Steph is getting fouled in a natural shooting motion and not getting the call. Couldn't stand the guy but you know what, he was exploiting a rule. The league somewhat rectified it. It is what it is. The dude can literally do everything on a basketball court, even play defense. He just always chose not to. That's an earmark of D'Antoni teams. Abstaining from defense.

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    @sports_Network   lol wow you are right. He is a hall of famer now. The 76ers won how many games without him? who are they playing on this schedule now? He is a terrible NBA player. He isn't even a top 10 guard in the NBA and you make him like he is legit. Then again, you probably think Lebron is top 5 player of all time lol. You lack knowledge of sports. But when the sixers struggle and he is to blame. You come back and say hello

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    He could've retired after last season, used his time to go door to door looking for you only to upon finding you, slap you across the face, poop on your front porch, and drink your last beer, and he still would've been a hall of famer. And I can't stand the dude. I'm literally a James Harden hater but even I acknowledge how talented of a basketball player he is. I couldn't stand the flopping. I'm a Warriors fan and I couldn't stand the drawing  contact on the gather only to flail, chuck the ball into the stands, and proceed the the free throw line for 3 attempts. Meanwhile Steph is getting fouled in a natural shooting motion and not getting the call. Couldn't stand the guy but you know what, he was exploiting a rule. The league somewhat rectified it. It is what it is. The dude can literally do everything on a basketball court, even play defense. He just always chose not to. That's an earmark of D'Antoni teams. Abstaining from defense.

     
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    This is the most brain dead take i've ever seen on this site.  Harden is a weirdo, but he and Westbrook aren't even in the same universe as far as their game is concerned.  Westbrook's career is over.  He's a guy who's relied strictly on athleticism and now entering his mid-30's he no longer has the same impact on the floor.  Just a guy who could never shoot and only cared about stat chasing.  Westbrook is a legit team killer and should only be on your roster if your trying to tank. 

    Harden has improved every team he's ever been on and yeah he can be selfish at times (on some of those Rockets teams he had to be) he's an extremely good floor general, and creates space for himself and the other guys on the floor.  I'm a Sixers fan and the offense has been night and day compared to before the trade to these first 4 games w/ Harden running the show.  He has lapses and hasn't won the big one, but he's still a top 15 player easily and his game will age more like Chris Paul than the lazy John Wall/Westbrook comparisons i've heard. 

    This has to be a troll

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    This is the most brain dead take i've ever seen on this site.  Harden is a weirdo, but he and Westbrook aren't even in the same universe as far as their game is concerned.  Westbrook's career is over.  He's a guy who's relied strictly on athleticism and now entering his mid-30's he no longer has the same impact on the floor.  Just a guy who could never shoot and only cared about stat chasing.  Westbrook is a legit team killer and should only be on your roster if your trying to tank. 

    Harden has improved every team he's ever been on and yeah he can be selfish at times (on some of those Rockets teams he had to be) he's an extremely good floor general, and creates space for himself and the other guys on the floor.  I'm a Sixers fan and the offense has been night and day compared to before the trade to these first 4 games w/ Harden running the show.  He has lapses and hasn't won the big one, but he's still a top 15 player easily and his game will age more like Chris Paul than the lazy John Wall/Westbrook comparisons i've heard. 

    This has to be a troll

     
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    Posted: Mar. 5, 2022 - 4:45 PM ET #19

    Quote Originally Posted by davemsh:

    I got news for you..76ers are not going undefeated SU and ATS the remaining of the season...

    Way to be a buzz kill! an_roll_laugh

    Go Sixers!

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    Quote Originally Posted by davemsh:

    I got news for you..76ers are not going undefeated SU and ATS the remaining of the season...

    Way to be a buzz kill! an_roll_laugh

    Go Sixers!

     
     
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     Westbrook is just as athletic has he has always been. He is being bogged down due to his mental game over and over and he just doesn't play well with other players. This isn't street ball. This is the NBA.

    Majority of NBA players couldn't even play and succeed in the old NBA.

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    @BigMick87

     Westbrook is just as athletic has he has always been. He is being bogged down due to his mental game over and over and he just doesn't play well with other players. This isn't street ball. This is the NBA.

    Majority of NBA players couldn't even play and succeed in the old NBA.

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