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    If you don't think the refs are helping out the Heat, then...

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    Dimachkaa
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    Posted: Jun. 20, 2012 - 2:57 PM ET #1

    (A) you DO NOT have eyes, (B) you are an ignorant, fake, piece of shit cocky Miami Heat fan who just likes to ride the dick, or (C) you work for the NBA....

    Here is my rant:

    There are a PLETHORA of examples of how the referees have been helping out the Heat this entire playoffs. I can't even begin to explain or know where to start in explaining ... The entire first 5 games of the Pacers-Heat series... you got those 3 T's on Boston in 7 minutes of Game 1 for complete nonsense, i.e. Ray Allen grimacing and turning his back on refs after a bad foul call and Ting him up while the refs let LBJ and Wade get away with literally cussing and bitching/moaning RIGHT IN THE REFS' faces after each call that doesn't go there way, no matter how obvious or correct of a call it was ... Then you T up KG and Coach Rivers for giving the ball back to the Heat and saying "come on ref", respectively?!?!
    Then you got Game 2 with the no-call on a clear flagrant at Rondo's head by LBJ ... then I forgot which game it was but LBJ was hanging on the rim for, yes I timed it, 6.3 seconds, no Technical?!?! 
    Then, you got a no-call on LBJ when he smartly purposefully fouled KD to make him earn the points at the line rather than an easy regular side 6 footer.
    And we got Game 4 yesterday ... somehow Perkins, Ibaka, Collinson, and Sefolosha went to the line, COMBINED a total of ZERO times. Westbrook who scored 40+ pts and is known for his physical driving went to the foul line a combined TWO TIMES! How do you score 43 pts and only shoot 3 free throws?!?!? There were an assortment of fouls the Heat clearly committed on Westbrook, Durant, and Harden that the commentators themselves were directly pointing out as being clear fouls that were not called. 

    But this one takes the cake.... this may have determined Game 3...
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgYZjXXotp4 

    How do you NOT T up Spoelstra for this? He was literally 2 ft away from Westbrook ON THE COURT with both feet. I understand when coaches get on the court when the action is on the other side, but this is blatantly against the rules and was not called.

    I can post at least 20 Youtube videos of how the Refs are helping out the Heat in this Playoffs. And If my DVR was properly working, I could get at least 100.
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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    (A) you DO NOT have eyes, (B) you are an ignorant, fake, piece of shit cocky Miami Heat fan who just likes to ride the dick, or (C) you work for the NBA....

    Here is my rant:

    There are a PLETHORA of examples of how the referees have been helping out the Heat this entire playoffs. I can't even begin to explain or know where to start in explaining ... The entire first 5 games of the Pacers-Heat series... you got those 3 T's on Boston in 7 minutes of Game 1 for complete nonsense, i.e. Ray Allen grimacing and turning his back on refs after a bad foul call and Ting him up while the refs let LBJ and Wade get away with literally cussing and bitching/moaning RIGHT IN THE REFS' faces after each call that doesn't go there way, no matter how obvious or correct of a call it was ... Then you T up KG and Coach Rivers for giving the ball back to the Heat and saying "come on ref", respectively?!?!
    Then you got Game 2 with the no-call on a clear flagrant at Rondo's head by LBJ ... then I forgot which game it was but LBJ was hanging on the rim for, yes I timed it, 6.3 seconds, no Technical?!?! 
    Then, you got a no-call on LBJ when he smartly purposefully fouled KD to make him earn the points at the line rather than an easy regular side 6 footer.
    And we got Game 4 yesterday ... somehow Perkins, Ibaka, Collinson, and Sefolosha went to the line, COMBINED a total of ZERO times. Westbrook who scored 40+ pts and is known for his physical driving went to the foul line a combined TWO TIMES! How do you score 43 pts and only shoot 3 free throws?!?!? There were an assortment of fouls the Heat clearly committed on Westbrook, Durant, and Harden that the commentators themselves were directly pointing out as being clear fouls that were not called. 

    But this one takes the cake.... this may have determined Game 3...
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgYZjXXotp4 

    How do you NOT T up Spoelstra for this? He was literally 2 ft away from Westbrook ON THE COURT with both feet. I understand when coaches get on the court when the action is on the other side, but this is blatantly against the rules and was not called.

    I can post at least 20 Youtube videos of how the Refs are helping out the Heat in this Playoffs. And If my DVR was properly working, I could get at least 100.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 20, 2012 - 2:59 PM ET #2

    learn money management and you will no longer make these kind of posts



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    learn money management and you will no longer make these kind of posts



     
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    Posted: Jun. 20, 2012 - 3:04 PM ET #3

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TekBLysYMoo foul called

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQHTwWUyCXo NO FOUL

    Game 3...Brooks get a T for a call the refs reversed

    James throws the ball off the back of the backbaord

    They try to reverse Fishers 3

    Game 4....

    FOUR times the announces are laughing to call the foul on Cole Aldrich on the bench because "no one on the court was even close to making contact" 7 free points \

    Haslem throws Fisher out of bounds and kicks it out for 3

    My favorite is how James/Wade/Bosh are always on the floor getting fouled by the big bad Durant, Westbrook, Harden and Thabo who all weigh maybe 180 tops

    And Derek Fisher runs through James on a screen

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TekBLysYMoo foul called

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQHTwWUyCXo NO FOUL

    Game 3...Brooks get a T for a call the refs reversed

    James throws the ball off the back of the backbaord

    They try to reverse Fishers 3

    Game 4....

    FOUR times the announces are laughing to call the foul on Cole Aldrich on the bench because "no one on the court was even close to making contact" 7 free points \

    Haslem throws Fisher out of bounds and kicks it out for 3

    My favorite is how James/Wade/Bosh are always on the floor getting fouled by the big bad Durant, Westbrook, Harden and Thabo who all weigh maybe 180 tops

    And Derek Fisher runs through James on a screen

     
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    Posted: Jun. 20, 2012 - 3:06 PM ET #4

    WOW why was there no call on the foul on that video?? Chambers tries to get out to guard the shot and someone sets a moving pick.
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    WOW why was there no call on the foul on that video?? Chambers tries to get out to guard the shot and someone sets a moving pick.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 20, 2012 - 3:15 PM ET #5

    Sorry for your OKC loss !
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    Sorry for your OKC loss !
     
    Dimachkaa
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    Posted: Jun. 20, 2012 - 3:20 PM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by dytide:

    learn money management and you will no longer make these kind of posts




    I took the Over for 800 Game 4 and hit with ease. I simply want to see a fair playoffs/fair NBA finals. As a fan of the NBA, I am making these posts, not as an opponent of losing money, because surely I have not been losing money on this NBA playoffs. Thank you for the unfounded and hateful assumption though :)
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    Quote Originally Posted by dytide:

    learn money management and you will no longer make these kind of posts




    I took the Over for 800 Game 4 and hit with ease. I simply want to see a fair playoffs/fair NBA finals. As a fan of the NBA, I am making these posts, not as an opponent of losing money, because surely I have not been losing money on this NBA playoffs. Thank you for the unfounded and hateful assumption though :)
     
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    Posted: Jun. 20, 2012 - 3:23 PM ET #7

    I have all my friend's in Miami (who are actually true NBA fans and not cocky fucks who want to piss people off with their love for the Heat) and so many other people who never bet in their life and don't care for the Heat or Thunder saying the same shit. This post has nothing to do with betting/losing money, etc...

    Although.... Heat were -4.5 in Game 3 and -3.5 in Game 4 ... In Game 3, down 3, Sefolosha makes an errant inbounds pass that leads to a turnover, no chance to cover. Then, in Game 4, Westbrook purposefully fouls to give no chance at the cover? I chose to not comment about that. I was this close to pullling the HUGE trigger on Heat -3.5 this past game. I just sticked with the over though. 
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    I have all my friend's in Miami (who are actually true NBA fans and not cocky fucks who want to piss people off with their love for the Heat) and so many other people who never bet in their life and don't care for the Heat or Thunder saying the same shit. This post has nothing to do with betting/losing money, etc...

    Although.... Heat were -4.5 in Game 3 and -3.5 in Game 4 ... In Game 3, down 3, Sefolosha makes an errant inbounds pass that leads to a turnover, no chance to cover. Then, in Game 4, Westbrook purposefully fouls to give no chance at the cover? I chose to not comment about that. I was this close to pullling the HUGE trigger on Heat -3.5 this past game. I just sticked with the over though. 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 20, 2012 - 3:32 PM ET #8

    And for all you wannabe sly ass mothafuckaz who wanna address something COMPLETELY unrelated to what my original post was about, please do yourself a favor and read a book for once! You guys are the common, mindless, uneducated folk who turn their heads to clearly obvious bullshit that goes on in the world (whether NBA basketball or world hunger) and refer to the people who call out the blatantly obvious bullshit for what it is as "haters" or "sore losers." By doing this, you are straying away from the point at hand and by no means having a fruitful and organized conversation about the matters at hand that are justifiably brought to light.

    Therefore, if you do not want to comment about these specific episodes of pro-Miami officiating that has been occurring since the Pacers series, then please do not hit Submit. Thank you.


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    And for all you wannabe sly ass mothafuckaz who wanna address something COMPLETELY unrelated to what my original post was about, please do yourself a favor and read a book for once! You guys are the common, mindless, uneducated folk who turn their heads to clearly obvious bullshit that goes on in the world (whether NBA basketball or world hunger) and refer to the people who call out the blatantly obvious bullshit for what it is as "haters" or "sore losers." By doing this, you are straying away from the point at hand and by no means having a fruitful and organized conversation about the matters at hand that are justifiably brought to light.

    Therefore, if you do not want to comment about these specific episodes of pro-Miami officiating that has been occurring since the Pacers series, then please do not hit Submit. Thank you.


     
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    Posted: Jun. 20, 2012 - 3:37 PM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by IBLEEDBLUE9:

    WOW why was there no call on the foul on that video?? Chambers tries to get out to guard the shot and someone sets a moving pick.

    That was a bang-bang play, Chalmers and Sef ran into same spot at same time. Would have been called in first or third quarter maybe, but def not in that important of a situation down the stretch...come on you know that. Anyways, that has nothing to do with the Heat coach clearly committing a Technical foul. Also, what's your excuse for all the other nonsense called towards the Heat... I mean what mostly stands out for me is how non-Heat players like the all-time 3-point shot leader Ray Allen or Kevin Garnett can get Technicals for grimacing at a ref call or tipping the ball back to the Heat players to inbound, but Heat players, mostly LBJ and Wade, can straight up get away with vehemently yelling and cursing right at the officials' faces and throwing their arms all over the place after a call doesn't go their way and not be called with one T all playoffs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IBLEEDBLUE9:

    WOW why was there no call on the foul on that video?? Chambers tries to get out to guard the shot and someone sets a moving pick.

    That was a bang-bang play, Chalmers and Sef ran into same spot at same time. Would have been called in first or third quarter maybe, but def not in that important of a situation down the stretch...come on you know that. Anyways, that has nothing to do with the Heat coach clearly committing a Technical foul. Also, what's your excuse for all the other nonsense called towards the Heat... I mean what mostly stands out for me is how non-Heat players like the all-time 3-point shot leader Ray Allen or Kevin Garnett can get Technicals for grimacing at a ref call or tipping the ball back to the Heat players to inbound, but Heat players, mostly LBJ and Wade, can straight up get away with vehemently yelling and cursing right at the officials' faces and throwing their arms all over the place after a call doesn't go their way and not be called with one T all playoffs.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 20, 2012 - 3:45 PM ET #10

    VERBATIM from NBA.com:

    d. A technical foul shall be assessed for unsportsmanlike tactics such as: 
    (1) Disrespectfully addressing an official 
    (2) Physically contacting an official 
    (3) Overt actions indicating resentment to a call 
    (4) Use of profanity 
    (5) A coach entering onto the court without permission of an official 
    (6) A deliberately-thrown elbow or any attempted physical act with no con-tact involved 
    (7) Taunting 
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    VERBATIM from NBA.com:

    d. A technical foul shall be assessed for unsportsmanlike tactics such as: 
    (1) Disrespectfully addressing an official 
    (2) Physically contacting an official 
    (3) Overt actions indicating resentment to a call 
    (4) Use of profanity 
    (5) A coach entering onto the court without permission of an official 
    (6) A deliberately-thrown elbow or any attempted physical act with no con-tact involved 
    (7) Taunting 
     
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    VERBATIM from NBA.com:

    d. A technical foul shall be assessed for unsportsmanlike tactics such as: 
    (1) Disrespectfully addressing an official 
    (2) Physically contacting an official 
    (3) Overt actions indicating resentment to a call 
    (4) Use of profanity 
    (5) A coach entering onto the court without permission of an official 
    (6) A deliberately-thrown elbow or any attempted physical act with no con-tact involved 
    (7) Taunting 

    Specifically, check out (5) for Spoelstra coming onto the court and (1), (3), and (4) on LBJ and Wade each time they blatantly bitch, moan, and curse at the refs.
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    VERBATIM from NBA.com:

    d. A technical foul shall be assessed for unsportsmanlike tactics such as: 
    (1) Disrespectfully addressing an official 
    (2) Physically contacting an official 
    (3) Overt actions indicating resentment to a call 
    (4) Use of profanity 
    (5) A coach entering onto the court without permission of an official 
    (6) A deliberately-thrown elbow or any attempted physical act with no con-tact involved 
    (7) Taunting 

    Specifically, check out (5) for Spoelstra coming onto the court and (1), (3), and (4) on LBJ and Wade each time they blatantly bitch, moan, and curse at the refs.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 20, 2012 - 3:49 PM ET #12

    I'm coming with deliberate facts straight from the NBA official rule book and video evidence as to how the Heat have been getting obvious help from the referees this NBA playoffs, and the only responses I can get is "sorry for your OKC loss" or "learn how to manage money"??? Come on, I want some discussion with people who are rationale and intellectual enough to have it. 
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    I'm coming with deliberate facts straight from the NBA official rule book and video evidence as to how the Heat have been getting obvious help from the referees this NBA playoffs, and the only responses I can get is "sorry for your OKC loss" or "learn how to manage money"??? Come on, I want some discussion with people who are rationale and intellectual enough to have it. 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 20, 2012 - 3:52 PM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by dytide:

    learn money management and you will no longer make these kind of posts



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    Quote Originally Posted by dytide:

    learn money management and you will no longer make these kind of posts



     
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    Posted: Jun. 20, 2012 - 4:02 PM ET #14

    Quote Originally Posted by darien123:


    Hey darien123, learn how to read and your dumbass will no longer need to make these kind of posts
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    Quote Originally Posted by darien123:


    Hey darien123, learn how to read and your dumbass will no longer need to make these kind of posts
     
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    Posted: Jun. 20, 2012 - 4:04 PM ET #15

    hahahaha another pathetic thread
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    hahahaha another pathetic thread
     
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    Posted: Jun. 20, 2012 - 4:06 PM ET #16

    REASON WHY OKC NOT WINNING THE SERIES 



    STOP CRYING ABOUT THE REFS

    WESTBROOK TAKE A LOOK AT THE RULE BOOK OR MAYBE THE SHOT CLOCK

    OKC  PLEASE SEND OUT A MISSING PERSON REPORT WERE THE HELL IS HARDEN   43 PTS IN 4 GAMES


    OKC   LAST THREE GAMES FROM 3 PT RANGE


    9-26     34%

    4-18     22%

    3-16     18%
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    REASON WHY OKC NOT WINNING THE SERIES 



    STOP CRYING ABOUT THE REFS

    WESTBROOK TAKE A LOOK AT THE RULE BOOK OR MAYBE THE SHOT CLOCK

    OKC  PLEASE SEND OUT A MISSING PERSON REPORT WERE THE HELL IS HARDEN   43 PTS IN 4 GAMES


    OKC   LAST THREE GAMES FROM 3 PT RANGE


    9-26     34%

    4-18     22%

    3-16     18%
     
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    Posted: Jun. 20, 2012 - 4:09 PM ET #17

    Quote Originally Posted by pucku27:

    REASON WHY OKC NOT WINNING THE SERIES 



    STOP CRYING ABOUT THE REFS

    WESTBROOK TAKE A LOOK AT THE RULE BOOK OR MAYBE THE SHOT CLOCK

    OKC  PLEASE SEND OUT A MISSING PERSON REPORT WERE THE HELL IS HARDEN   43 PTS IN 4 GAMES


    OKC   LAST THREE GAMES FROM 3 PT RANGE


    9-26     34%

    4-18     22%

    3-16     18%

    Actually he has been playing but his mind is out somewhere else. He is confused which beard trimmer to buy. Once he gets hold of the trimmer he will be back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pucku27:

    REASON WHY OKC NOT WINNING THE SERIES 



    STOP CRYING ABOUT THE REFS

    WESTBROOK TAKE A LOOK AT THE RULE BOOK OR MAYBE THE SHOT CLOCK

    OKC  PLEASE SEND OUT A MISSING PERSON REPORT WERE THE HELL IS HARDEN   43 PTS IN 4 GAMES


    OKC   LAST THREE GAMES FROM 3 PT RANGE


    9-26     34%

    4-18     22%

    3-16     18%

    Actually he has been playing but his mind is out somewhere else. He is confused which beard trimmer to buy. Once he gets hold of the trimmer he will be back.

     
    Dimachkaa
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    Posted: Jun. 20, 2012 - 4:18 PM ET #18

    Harden has to be shaving points rather than his beard
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    Harden has to be shaving points rather than his beard
     
    Dimachkaa
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    Posted: Jun. 20, 2012 - 4:34 PM ET #19

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jplQGCvT7M
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jplQGCvT7M
     
    Dimachkaa
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    Posted: Jun. 20, 2012 - 4:36 PM ET #20

    Clear Path foul at 6 seconds in
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    Clear Path foul at 6 seconds in
     
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    Posted: Jun. 20, 2012 - 4:41 PM ET #21

    Shooting foul at 0:11 with Wade slashing Harden's head to disrupt his momentum in the air on the shot...

    It's called point shaving bro. Little by little. The Thunder didn't shoot well from 3, but still were within 3 in the final minute of the past two games They would have been up 10 with the same low percentage from 3 had points little by little not been shaved in the Heat's favor.
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    Shooting foul at 0:11 with Wade slashing Harden's head to disrupt his momentum in the air on the shot...

    It's called point shaving bro. Little by little. The Thunder didn't shoot well from 3, but still were within 3 in the final minute of the past two games They would have been up 10 with the same low percentage from 3 had points little by little not been shaved in the Heat's favor.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 20, 2012 - 4:49 PM ET #22

    Its amazing that dimach makes all valid points and shows evidence of his points and still u have these blind uneducated heat homers making stupid comments like sorry for ur loss.  This series has been pathetically 1 sided with officiating.  The 1 stat thats sticks out to me the most is westbrook took 32 shots last night and was by FAR the most aggressive player on the court with takin ball to hoop and got 3 free throws all game. 

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    Its amazing that dimach makes all valid points and shows evidence of his points and still u have these blind uneducated heat homers making stupid comments like sorry for ur loss.  This series has been pathetically 1 sided with officiating.  The 1 stat thats sticks out to me the most is westbrook took 32 shots last night and was by FAR the most aggressive player on the court with takin ball to hoop and got 3 free throws all game. 

     
    Dimachkaa
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    Posted: Jun. 20, 2012 - 4:52 PM ET #23

    You think it's crazy to believe, but all the statistics back it. The Heat shot 38% from three point arc, yet had 25 free throw attempts, compared to 16 for the Thunder. Despite shooting 26 compared to the Thunder's 16 three-pointers, they still went to the charity line 9 more times. Of these 25 free throw attempts, the Heat missed 7, whereas the Thunder only missed 1 of their 16....

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    You think it's crazy to believe, but all the statistics back it. The Heat shot 38% from three point arc, yet had 25 free throw attempts, compared to 16 for the Thunder. Despite shooting 26 compared to the Thunder's 16 three-pointers, they still went to the charity line 9 more times. Of these 25 free throw attempts, the Heat missed 7, whereas the Thunder only missed 1 of their 16....

     
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    Posted: Jun. 20, 2012 - 4:59 PM ET #24

    Quote Originally Posted by KobezKing:

    Its amazing that dimach makes all valid points and shows evidence of his points and still u have these blind uneducated heat homers making stupid comments like sorry for ur loss.  This series has been pathetically 1 sided with officiating.  The 1 stat thats sticks out to me the most is westbrook took 32 shots last night and was by FAR the most aggressive player on the court with takin ball to hoop and got 3 free throws all game. 


    I meant to point this one out myself, but I was too busy discussing all the other ones. Haha, thank you. This is key as well. He took 32 shots, 78% of them being aggressive drives to the hoop, yet was only at the line twice in the entire game. This means that 40 of his 43 points came from the field. Completely unreal. I wonder how many 12 of his missed shots could have lead to points for the Thunder and how many 20 of his made shots could have been and-1's ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by KobezKing:

    Its amazing that dimach makes all valid points and shows evidence of his points and still u have these blind uneducated heat homers making stupid comments like sorry for ur loss.  This series has been pathetically 1 sided with officiating.  The 1 stat thats sticks out to me the most is westbrook took 32 shots last night and was by FAR the most aggressive player on the court with takin ball to hoop and got 3 free throws all game. 


    I meant to point this one out myself, but I was too busy discussing all the other ones. Haha, thank you. This is key as well. He took 32 shots, 78% of them being aggressive drives to the hoop, yet was only at the line twice in the entire game. This means that 40 of his 43 points came from the field. Completely unreal. I wonder how many 12 of his missed shots could have lead to points for the Thunder and how many 20 of his made shots could have been and-1's ....

     
     
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    Posted: Jun. 20, 2012 - 5:05 PM ET #25

    Quote Originally Posted by Stromisle:

    hahahaha another pathetic thread

    Excellent counter dude.

    I now have you ahead on points.

    BTW I dont work for Bob Arum, but I have worked for Don King.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stromisle:

    hahahaha another pathetic thread

    Excellent counter dude.

    I now have you ahead on points.

    BTW I dont work for Bob Arum, but I have worked for Don King.

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