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    If Cavs beat GS in finals it will be one of the biggest upsets in last 15 years...

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    Posted: May. 26, 2015 - 2:09 AM ET #76

    Quote Originally Posted by StanThaCaddy:


    I've never seen him quit but he did use to be very fragile in big moments mentally. I think the experience in Miami allowed him to grow up. To me it seems like everyone loves to point out every flaw or bad decision Lebron makes but no one says a word with anyone else. I've watched Kobe for years take awful shots where hes double teamed instead of passing to an open teammate. I consider that fading when it counts as well. Kevin Durant is supposedly the "2nd best" but he never has critics and he even plays with arguably the 3rd best in the league. Chris Paul is this "all time great point guard" but year after year he cant make even the conference finals even up 3-1 to the one man show Rockets. Lebron's the best and that happens to come with critics like yourself. 


    Kobe has had his critics, plenty of them and i have been one of them in the past. Notice his critics died down once Lebron did his announcement? Kobe was such a jerk-off but Lebro nis such a douche cake that he ended up making Kobe look good. THat says alot.

    Why would anybody talk smack about both Durant and CP? what have they done to deserve any attacks? they're not ego-driven, they don't betray their teams, team mates and abandon ship when things get rough. They have always conducted themselves very professionally and w/ integrity.

    Why do people get baffled about all the Lebron criticism? if you don't know bu now then you will never know and it's not really worth debating with further. Always remember though that you guys are the minority...i gotta reiterate that because Lebron fans and his excusers think they know what's up. Again, you can't go from the most hated player in the world to being liked just because you win rings - and people who did change sides are sell out also. Period.
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    I've never seen him quit but he did use to be very fragile in big moments mentally. I think the experience in Miami allowed him to grow up. To me it seems like everyone loves to point out every flaw or bad decision Lebron makes but no one says a word with anyone else. I've watched Kobe for years take awful shots where hes double teamed instead of passing to an open teammate. I consider that fading when it counts as well. Kevin Durant is supposedly the "2nd best" but he never has critics and he even plays with arguably the 3rd best in the league. Chris Paul is this "all time great point guard" but year after year he cant make even the conference finals even up 3-1 to the one man show Rockets. Lebron's the best and that happens to come with critics like yourself. 


    Kobe has had his critics, plenty of them and i have been one of them in the past. Notice his critics died down once Lebron did his announcement? Kobe was such a jerk-off but Lebro nis such a douche cake that he ended up making Kobe look good. THat says alot.

    Why would anybody talk smack about both Durant and CP? what have they done to deserve any attacks? they're not ego-driven, they don't betray their teams, team mates and abandon ship when things get rough. They have always conducted themselves very professionally and w/ integrity.

    Why do people get baffled about all the Lebron criticism? if you don't know bu now then you will never know and it's not really worth debating with further. Always remember though that you guys are the minority...i gotta reiterate that because Lebron fans and his excusers think they know what's up. Again, you can't go from the most hated player in the world to being liked just because you win rings - and people who did change sides are sell out also. Period.
     
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    Posted: May. 26, 2015 - 10:20 AM ET #77

    I'd rather play Tristan Thompson 35 minutes a game than play Kevin Love 35 minutes a game. If Love was in the lineup Thompson would likely not see heavy minutes. Cavs are a better team with Thompson starting.
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    I'd rather play Tristan Thompson 35 minutes a game than play Kevin Love 35 minutes a game. If Love was in the lineup Thompson would likely not see heavy minutes. Cavs are a better team with Thompson starting.
     
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    Posted: May. 26, 2015 - 11:37 AM ET #78

    Lebron's postseason kryptonite were against the veteran superstar teams like the Spurs, Mavericks '11 and the big 3 C's.

    They were able to break him down mentally to the point where it brought him to tears. He was only able to beat the C's who were on their last leg and also get one from the Spurs in a miraculous fashion.

    Now against GSW with a chance to redeem his reputation as one of the greats, there isn't a single player on that team that could mentally wear out Lebron.

    His team will feed off his confidence and I think we will see the best performance by Lebron as a leader on the big stage. 

    Like what the veterans have done against him, he will mentally wear out the splash brothers and expose their vulnerabilities through out the series.

    He was able to breakdown OKC with few favorable calls, I think it will happen again. 

    For Lebron to win it now for his hometown is good for the NBA, rather than facing another finals loss and tarnishing his career.

    First championship for the Cavs delivered by the man who made the 'decision' for rings.

    Don't tell me who the better team is, we all know who holds the best record.

    Biggest upset? no. 

    GSW is a great team but I believe they can be fragile.  
    This is the finals, Cavs win imo. 


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    Lebron's postseason kryptonite were against the veteran superstar teams like the Spurs, Mavericks '11 and the big 3 C's.

    They were able to break him down mentally to the point where it brought him to tears. He was only able to beat the C's who were on their last leg and also get one from the Spurs in a miraculous fashion.

    Now against GSW with a chance to redeem his reputation as one of the greats, there isn't a single player on that team that could mentally wear out Lebron.

    His team will feed off his confidence and I think we will see the best performance by Lebron as a leader on the big stage. 

    Like what the veterans have done against him, he will mentally wear out the splash brothers and expose their vulnerabilities through out the series.

    He was able to breakdown OKC with few favorable calls, I think it will happen again. 

    For Lebron to win it now for his hometown is good for the NBA, rather than facing another finals loss and tarnishing his career.

    First championship for the Cavs delivered by the man who made the 'decision' for rings.

    Don't tell me who the better team is, we all know who holds the best record.

    Biggest upset? no. 

    GSW is a great team but I believe they can be fragile.  
    This is the finals, Cavs win imo. 


     
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    Posted: May. 26, 2015 - 11:44 AM ET #79

    He's still a princess and a douche but there is no denying how well he is leading his team atm. 


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    He's still a princess and a douche but there is no denying how well he is leading his team atm. 


     
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    Posted: May. 26, 2015 - 11:54 AM ET #80

    LeBron is going to have favorable refs for 6 of the 7 finals games -- Warriors as seen last night don't do well when the refs are stacked against them -- this is LeBron's year and the NBA wants to make him the new Jordan and they will and Heat/Cavs fanboys like NBANFLFAN will be so very very happy
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    LeBron is going to have favorable refs for 6 of the 7 finals games -- Warriors as seen last night don't do well when the refs are stacked against them -- this is LeBron's year and the NBA wants to make him the new Jordan and they will and Heat/Cavs fanboys like NBANFLFAN will be so very very happy
     
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    Posted: May. 26, 2015 - 11:57 AM ET #81

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euDPsuykAZ8

    The frustration will set in for the Warriors. 

     


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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euDPsuykAZ8

    The frustration will set in for the Warriors. 

     


     
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    Posted: May. 27, 2015 - 11:43 AM ET #82

    I just added more to GS to win finals, bovada has them at -200 while other books are around -230 to -250

    So i have them at -120, -175 and now some at -200.. Pretty big sum overall on this but im pretty confident. Win or Lose i feel that at this moment it is a strong play.


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    I just added more to GS to win finals, bovada has them at -200 while other books are around -230 to -250

    So i have them at -120, -175 and now some at -200.. Pretty big sum overall on this but im pretty confident. Win or Lose i feel that at this moment it is a strong play.


     
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    Posted: May. 27, 2015 - 4:07 PM ET #83

    Quote Originally Posted by MoneyShot:

    I just added more to GS to win finals, bovada has them at -200 while other books are around -230 to -250

    So i have them at -120, -175 and now some at -200.. Pretty big sum overall on this but im pretty confident. Win or Lose i feel that at this moment it is a strong play.


    good luck
    i feel the cavs
    one of us will win
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoneyShot:

    I just added more to GS to win finals, bovada has them at -200 while other books are around -230 to -250

    So i have them at -120, -175 and now some at -200.. Pretty big sum overall on this but im pretty confident. Win or Lose i feel that at this moment it is a strong play.


    good luck
    i feel the cavs
    one of us will win
     
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    Posted: May. 28, 2015 - 1:43 AM ET #84

    GAME ON!!!
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    GAME ON!!!
     
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    Posted: May. 28, 2015 - 1:46 AM ET #85

    Cavs will win it all -- how is anyone pretending otherwise?
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    Cavs will win it all -- how is anyone pretending otherwise?
     
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    Posted: May. 28, 2015 - 1:58 AM ET #86

    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

     

    Well that's definitely in the equation. I've always said the Jets suffer from the same team dysfunction that brings most if not all players down.

    But remember, JR couldn't even control himself as an adult last year with shoelace-gate.

    Teams up with Lebron? Turns into a mini-Pippen on certain nights.

      What does that tell you?  Take the hint and quit blabbering about Cavs having no chance.
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    Well that's definitely in the equation. I've always said the Jets suffer from the same team dysfunction that brings most if not all players down.

    But remember, JR couldn't even control himself as an adult last year with shoelace-gate.

    Teams up with Lebron? Turns into a mini-Pippen on certain nights.

      What does that tell you?  Take the hint and quit blabbering about Cavs having no chance.
     
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    Posted: May. 28, 2015 - 2:06 AM ET #87

    Pistons were +350 against Lakers with 4 Hall of Farmers and won and dominated in 5.  I am a former sportsbook director in Vegas and there is millions of dollars in huge futures on the Warriors.  That is the only reason they are favored so big.  If that wasn't the case they would be in the -120 range simply for home court.  Fact is Warriors were dominated by Cavs when Lebron played against them because he guarded Curry and held him to 5/17 shooting.  Their weak interior will with Bogut will cost them the championship. Thompson and Mozgov will expose a flawed team.  Btw I have Cavs huge at 25-1.  I bet it a month before Lebron left for Cavs because I had inside information that he was going home.
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    Pistons were +350 against Lakers with 4 Hall of Farmers and won and dominated in 5.  I am a former sportsbook director in Vegas and there is millions of dollars in huge futures on the Warriors.  That is the only reason they are favored so big.  If that wasn't the case they would be in the -120 range simply for home court.  Fact is Warriors were dominated by Cavs when Lebron played against them because he guarded Curry and held him to 5/17 shooting.  Their weak interior will with Bogut will cost them the championship. Thompson and Mozgov will expose a flawed team.  Btw I have Cavs huge at 25-1.  I bet it a month before Lebron left for Cavs because I had inside information that he was going home.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by xxxfactorcapper:

    Pistons were +350 against Lakers with 4 Hall of Farmers and won and dominated in 5.  I am a former sportsbook director in Vegas and there is millions of dollars in huge futures on the Warriors.  That is the only reason they are favored so big.  If that wasn't the case they would be in the -120 range simply for home court.  Fact is Warriors were dominated by Cavs when Lebron played against them because he guarded Curry and held him to 5/17 shooting.  Their weak interior will with Bogut will cost them the championship. Thompson and Mozgov will expose a flawed team.  Btw I have Cavs huge at 25-1.  I bet it a month before Lebron left for Cavs because I had inside information that he was going home.


    i hope you hedged that bet... Weak interior?   Bogut made all defensive 2nd team  and draymond made all team defensive 1st team.  LOL at your weak interior comment. LBJ is a monster, ill admit that but out of all the teams in the league the Warriors are up there with the Spurs in guys that can guard LBJ somewhat.  Iggy made all defensive team last year and gave harden fits this postseason, Draymond obviously almost won defensive player of the year this year and will guard lbj sometimes, they also have barnes and livingston that will take turns guarding lbj at times too, they have size and length to at least man up on lbj.   LBJ had it easy last series vs a hobbled carroll, inexperienced bazemore, and milsap who doesnt have the quicks to cover him.  LBJ will score no matter who is guarding him but the warriors can at least provide some resistance unlike the hawks.
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    Pistons were +350 against Lakers with 4 Hall of Farmers and won and dominated in 5.  I am a former sportsbook director in Vegas and there is millions of dollars in huge futures on the Warriors.  That is the only reason they are favored so big.  If that wasn't the case they would be in the -120 range simply for home court.  Fact is Warriors were dominated by Cavs when Lebron played against them because he guarded Curry and held him to 5/17 shooting.  Their weak interior will with Bogut will cost them the championship. Thompson and Mozgov will expose a flawed team.  Btw I have Cavs huge at 25-1.  I bet it a month before Lebron left for Cavs because I had inside information that he was going home.


    i hope you hedged that bet... Weak interior?   Bogut made all defensive 2nd team  and draymond made all team defensive 1st team.  LOL at your weak interior comment. LBJ is a monster, ill admit that but out of all the teams in the league the Warriors are up there with the Spurs in guys that can guard LBJ somewhat.  Iggy made all defensive team last year and gave harden fits this postseason, Draymond obviously almost won defensive player of the year this year and will guard lbj sometimes, they also have barnes and livingston that will take turns guarding lbj at times too, they have size and length to at least man up on lbj.   LBJ had it easy last series vs a hobbled carroll, inexperienced bazemore, and milsap who doesnt have the quicks to cover him.  LBJ will score no matter who is guarding him but the warriors can at least provide some resistance unlike the hawks.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by xxxfactorcapper:

    Pistons were +350 against Lakers with 4 Hall of Farmers and won and dominated in 5.  I am a former sportsbook director in Vegas and there is millions of dollars in huge futures on the Warriors.  That is the only reason they are favored so big.  If that wasn't the case they would be in the -120 range simply for home court.  Fact is Warriors were dominated by Cavs when Lebron played against them because he guarded Curry and held him to 5/17 shooting.  Their weak interior will with Bogut will cost them the championship. Thompson and Mozgov will expose a flawed team.  Btw I have Cavs huge at 25-1.  I bet it a month before Lebron left for Cavs because I had inside information that he was going home.


    Im sure Cavs have tons of action on them too. 
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    Pistons were +350 against Lakers with 4 Hall of Farmers and won and dominated in 5.  I am a former sportsbook director in Vegas and there is millions of dollars in huge futures on the Warriors.  That is the only reason they are favored so big.  If that wasn't the case they would be in the -120 range simply for home court.  Fact is Warriors were dominated by Cavs when Lebron played against them because he guarded Curry and held him to 5/17 shooting.  Their weak interior will with Bogut will cost them the championship. Thompson and Mozgov will expose a flawed team.  Btw I have Cavs huge at 25-1.  I bet it a month before Lebron left for Cavs because I had inside information that he was going home.


    Im sure Cavs have tons of action on them too. 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 1, 2015 - 12:01 PM ET #91

    Quote Originally Posted by StanThaCaddy:


    So if the Cavs win it's cuz the refs? Or is there anyway LeBron win legitimately?? 
      If the Cavs win the players will have nothing to do with it, according to 3Ball and Tweedle Dum and Tweedle Dee.  It will be refs and "The League".  And a million more excuses.  Curry's ankles are still hurting from 3 years ago, Thompson concussion symptoms, Dellavadova being mean to the Dubs, garbage like that.  So even if the Cavs win ( which Dum claims can't possibly happen,)they will not have won in the minds of this troika......you will see Stan.
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    So if the Cavs win it's cuz the refs? Or is there anyway LeBron win legitimately?? 
      If the Cavs win the players will have nothing to do with it, according to 3Ball and Tweedle Dum and Tweedle Dee.  It will be refs and "The League".  And a million more excuses.  Curry's ankles are still hurting from 3 years ago, Thompson concussion symptoms, Dellavadova being mean to the Dubs, garbage like that.  So even if the Cavs win ( which Dum claims can't possibly happen,)they will not have won in the minds of this troika......you will see Stan.
     
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    Where are the haters now?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoneyShot:

    If Cavs do beat GS I will gladly come back into this thread and give all cavs backers huge props... I have no problem eating humble pie. 


    Wheres nbanflfan5?  I wanted him to come back and give credit to warriors after he bashed them lol. 
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    If Cavs do beat GS I will gladly come back into this thread and give all cavs backers huge props... I have no problem eating humble pie. 


    Wheres nbanflfan5?  I wanted him to come back and give credit to warriors after he bashed them lol. 
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