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    If Cavs beat GS in finals it will be one of the biggest upsets in last 15 years...

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    Posted: May. 24, 2015 - 9:14 PM ET #1

    I've already bet big on GS to take title over a week ago, I just can't see Cavs winning it for reasons I've said my reasoning in other threads and I'll reiterate them later. Cavs will be around +220 range but I'm my opinion they should be realistically around +300 because that's how much better I feel GS is over them. cavs without Love have very little shot vs a legit team, if they played in west without Love they get bounced in first round. Yes, first round.  They wouldn't of been a number 2 seed in the West, and frankly they could of been bounced in 2nd round if east if foster didn't 'overlook blatts timeout' in game 4, bulls would of won that game and been up 3-1 in series but that's over and done with... Anyways, if Cavs somehow win the title, it will go fine as one of the biggest upsets in last 15 to 20 years in the NBA finals. Imo it's FOOLS GOLD, to bet them thinking you have value at +220 or whatever their line will be. 
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    I've already bet big on GS to take title over a week ago, I just can't see Cavs winning it for reasons I've said my reasoning in other threads and I'll reiterate them later. Cavs will be around +220 range but I'm my opinion they should be realistically around +300 because that's how much better I feel GS is over them. cavs without Love have very little shot vs a legit team, if they played in west without Love they get bounced in first round. Yes, first round.  They wouldn't of been a number 2 seed in the West, and frankly they could of been bounced in 2nd round if east if foster didn't 'overlook blatts timeout' in game 4, bulls would of won that game and been up 3-1 in series but that's over and done with... Anyways, if Cavs somehow win the title, it will go fine as one of the biggest upsets in last 15 to 20 years in the NBA finals. Imo it's FOOLS GOLD, to bet them thinking you have value at +220 or whatever their line will be. 
     
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    Posted: May. 24, 2015 - 9:16 PM ET #2

    If Cavs do beat GS I will gladly come back into this thread and give all cavs backers huge props... I have no problem eating humble pie. 
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    If Cavs do beat GS I will gladly come back into this thread and give all cavs backers huge props... I have no problem eating humble pie. 
     
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    Posted: May. 24, 2015 - 9:48 PM ET #3

    The pace of the cavs and pace of gsw is night and day. Interesting matchup
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    The pace of the cavs and pace of gsw is night and day. Interesting matchup
     
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    Posted: May. 25, 2015 - 11:21 AM ET #4

    Anyone else loving GS to crush the cavs?  Ill honestly be surprised if Cavs take 3 games. 
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    Anyone else loving GS to crush the cavs?  Ill honestly be surprised if Cavs take 3 games. 
     
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    Posted: May. 25, 2015 - 11:51 AM ET #5

    Quote Originally Posted by MoneyShot:

    Anyone else loving GS to crush the cavs?  Ill honestly be surprised if Cavs take 3 games. 

    cavs are winning that series hate to break it to you
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoneyShot:

    Anyone else loving GS to crush the cavs?  Ill honestly be surprised if Cavs take 3 games. 

    cavs are winning that series hate to break it to you
     
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    Posted: May. 25, 2015 - 11:52 AM ET #6

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    Posted: May. 25, 2015 - 11:53 AM ET #7

    Not even close dude..The best player in the game is LeBron James..Golden State is the better team and should win the series, but your statement is incorrect..You can't ever count out the best player in a sport as superstar dominant as basketball..
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    Not even close dude..The best player in the game is LeBron James..Golden State is the better team and should win the series, but your statement is incorrect..You can't ever count out the best player in a sport as superstar dominant as basketball..
     
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    Posted: May. 25, 2015 - 12:07 PM ET #8

    GS way bettor coach, GS lightening speed, GS incredible outside range, Curry best shooter in history, GS best passing team in the League = Cavs getting crushed (like LeBron did in last yrs Finals). Warriors win 1st Championship in 40 years.
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    GS way bettor coach, GS lightening speed, GS incredible outside range, Curry best shooter in history, GS best passing team in the League = Cavs getting crushed (like LeBron did in last yrs Finals). Warriors win 1st Championship in 40 years.
     
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    Posted: May. 25, 2015 - 12:10 PM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by NBANFLFAN5:

    You have been wrong many times on Bulls and Hawks. I don't know that your logic qualifies as good advice. 

    Cavs can and will beat GSW. Lebron is one of the greatest players of all time and on mission to win Cleveland a title. Curry is a great player but no championship experience. Hard for a newer team with no experience in finals to just know all the tricks. Lebron been there and he has no problem playing on that stage. Other players like Bogut, Barnes, etc have not played on the big stage and could fall to pressure.


    actually ive done very well these playoffs.. all you do is take the cavs as heavy favorites.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NBANFLFAN5:

    You have been wrong many times on Bulls and Hawks. I don't know that your logic qualifies as good advice. 

    Cavs can and will beat GSW. Lebron is one of the greatest players of all time and on mission to win Cleveland a title. Curry is a great player but no championship experience. Hard for a newer team with no experience in finals to just know all the tricks. Lebron been there and he has no problem playing on that stage. Other players like Bogut, Barnes, etc have not played on the big stage and could fall to pressure.


    actually ive done very well these playoffs.. all you do is take the cavs as heavy favorites.
     
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    Posted: May. 25, 2015 - 12:11 PM ET #10

    Ok guys, all you that take the Cavs, make sure to come back in this thread once GS beats them... And if GS loses I will say I was wrong and give you all props..

    Deal????

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    Ok guys, all you that take the Cavs, make sure to come back in this thread once GS beats them... And if GS loses I will say I was wrong and give you all props..

    Deal????

     
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    Posted: May. 25, 2015 - 12:15 PM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by NBANFLFAN5:

    You have been wrong many times on Bulls and Hawks. I don't know that your logic qualifies as good advice. 

    Cavs can and will beat GSW. Lebron is one of the greatest players of all time and on mission to win Cleveland a title. Curry is a great player but no championship experience. Hard for a newer team with no experience in finals to just know all the tricks. Lebron been there and he has no problem playing on that stage. Other players like Bogut, Barnes, etc have not played on the big stage and could fall to pressure.


    you act like the Cavs have all this playoff experience... Aside from LBJ who out of their 'heavy minute' players have championship experience?? James Jones and Perk ok fine but they suck and shouldnt get many minutes anyway.   GS will be just fine, they have had tougher tests in the playoffs last couple years than these cavs players have aside from James.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NBANFLFAN5:

    You have been wrong many times on Bulls and Hawks. I don't know that your logic qualifies as good advice. 

    Cavs can and will beat GSW. Lebron is one of the greatest players of all time and on mission to win Cleveland a title. Curry is a great player but no championship experience. Hard for a newer team with no experience in finals to just know all the tricks. Lebron been there and he has no problem playing on that stage. Other players like Bogut, Barnes, etc have not played on the big stage and could fall to pressure.


    you act like the Cavs have all this playoff experience... Aside from LBJ who out of their 'heavy minute' players have championship experience?? James Jones and Perk ok fine but they suck and shouldnt get many minutes anyway.   GS will be just fine, they have had tougher tests in the playoffs last couple years than these cavs players have aside from James.
     
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    Posted: May. 25, 2015 - 12:20 PM ET #12

    Quote Originally Posted by JakeLake720:

    Not even close dude..The best player in the game is LeBron James..Golden State is the better team and should win the series, but your statement is incorrect..You can't ever count out the best player in a sport as superstar dominant as basketball..



    Curry has had the better season overall (you cant deny that) and possibly the overall better playoff performance thus far. Im not saying Curry is better than lbj but for this year it is very debatable.  LBJ is awesome, no question about that but this team is worse than the miami team that he  got crushed with last season. He again, will have to do SOOOOOO much for this team to even get close to beating GS and Kryie will have to be near 100% for Cavs to have a shot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JakeLake720:

    Not even close dude..The best player in the game is LeBron James..Golden State is the better team and should win the series, but your statement is incorrect..You can't ever count out the best player in a sport as superstar dominant as basketball..



    Curry has had the better season overall (you cant deny that) and possibly the overall better playoff performance thus far. Im not saying Curry is better than lbj but for this year it is very debatable.  LBJ is awesome, no question about that but this team is worse than the miami team that he  got crushed with last season. He again, will have to do SOOOOOO much for this team to even get close to beating GS and Kryie will have to be near 100% for Cavs to have a shot.

     
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    Posted: May. 25, 2015 - 12:39 PM ET #13

    what a ridiculous statement, it can most definitely happen
    "just win baby"
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    what a ridiculous statement, it can most definitely happen
     
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    Posted: May. 25, 2015 - 12:44 PM ET #14

    Op, I agree.

    And to add to that I have one question to support your point:

    Can anyone here see JR Smith....JR MOflockin' SMITH!!!, a castaway off the worst Knicks team in their history, hoisting an NBA title????


    If that day ever comes....good god....
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    Op, I agree.

    And to add to that I have one question to support your point:

    Can anyone here see JR Smith....JR MOflockin' SMITH!!!, a castaway off the worst Knicks team in their history, hoisting an NBA title????


    If that day ever comes....good god....
     
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    Posted: May. 25, 2015 - 12:46 PM ET #15

    Without even getting into what kind of chance the Cavs have, you state that GS is so much better that Cleveland should be +300. How is +300 one of the biggest upsets in the last 15 years?
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    Without even getting into what kind of chance the Cavs have, you state that GS is so much better that Cleveland should be +300. How is +300 one of the biggest upsets in the last 15 years?
     
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    Posted: May. 25, 2015 - 12:55 PM ET #16

    Quote Originally Posted by Livan33:

    Without even getting into what kind of chance the Cavs have, you state that GS is so much better that Cleveland should be +300. How is +300 one of the biggest upsets in the last 15 years?


    why is that so confusing? first of all i said ONE of the, not the biggest upset in past 15 years. I cant think of many bigger upsets that have happened in the nba finals in past 15 years can you? Pistons beating Lakers is prob number 1, then after that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Livan33:

    Without even getting into what kind of chance the Cavs have, you state that GS is so much better that Cleveland should be +300. How is +300 one of the biggest upsets in the last 15 years?


    why is that so confusing? first of all i said ONE of the, not the biggest upset in past 15 years. I cant think of many bigger upsets that have happened in the nba finals in past 15 years can you? Pistons beating Lakers is prob number 1, then after that?
     
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    Posted: May. 25, 2015 - 12:58 PM ET #17

    And I bet pistons that series... Lakers were way too hyped with their 4 hall of famers
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    And I bet pistons that series... Lakers were way too hyped with their 4 hall of famers
     
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    Posted: May. 25, 2015 - 12:58 PM ET #18

    Plus im a celtics fan so it was a sweet sweet win haha.
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    Plus im a celtics fan so it was a sweet sweet win haha.
     
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    Posted: May. 25, 2015 - 12:59 PM ET #19

    Big time.  Equivalent to bench players vs starters.  

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    Big time.  Equivalent to bench players vs starters.  

     
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    Posted: May. 25, 2015 - 1:00 PM ET #20

    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

    Op, I agree.

    And to add to that I have one question to support your point:

    Can anyone here see JR Smith....JR MOflockin' SMITH!!!, a castaway off the worst Knicks team in their history, hoisting an NBA title????


    If that day ever comes....good god....
    No one's pointed out that JR Smith, Shumpert AND Priogioni-- all Knick cast-offs-- all went to the NBA conference finals in the same year.   Perhaps there was something wrong with the Knicks, not those players.  JR Smith is being used perfectly by Cleveland.  And he's showing up.  Would Curry have had the same year with the Knicks?  Warriors are simply a better team than Cleveland.  LBJ is simply the best player.  But he is wearing down.  Oddly he'll get nine days off for the finals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

    Op, I agree.

    And to add to that I have one question to support your point:

    Can anyone here see JR Smith....JR MOflockin' SMITH!!!, a castaway off the worst Knicks team in their history, hoisting an NBA title????


    If that day ever comes....good god....
    No one's pointed out that JR Smith, Shumpert AND Priogioni-- all Knick cast-offs-- all went to the NBA conference finals in the same year.   Perhaps there was something wrong with the Knicks, not those players.  JR Smith is being used perfectly by Cleveland.  And he's showing up.  Would Curry have had the same year with the Knicks?  Warriors are simply a better team than Cleveland.  LBJ is simply the best player.  But he is wearing down.  Oddly he'll get nine days off for the finals.
     
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    Posted: May. 25, 2015 - 1:01 PM ET #21

    Warriors will win.  But they the Cavs will have a healthy Kyrie back.
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    Posted: May. 25, 2015 - 1:03 PM ET #22

    Quote Originally Posted by MoneyShot:



    why is that so confusing? first of all i said ONE of the, not the biggest upset in past 15 years. I cant think of many bigger upsets that have happened in the nba finals in past 15 years can you? Pistons beating Lakers is prob number 1, then after that?


    Fair enough, I didn't interpret your post to be restricted to the NBA Finals. I agree there are very few upsets in the NBA Finals.
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    why is that so confusing? first of all i said ONE of the, not the biggest upset in past 15 years. I cant think of many bigger upsets that have happened in the nba finals in past 15 years can you? Pistons beating Lakers is prob number 1, then after that?


    Fair enough, I didn't interpret your post to be restricted to the NBA Finals. I agree there are very few upsets in the NBA Finals.
     
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    Posted: May. 25, 2015 - 1:04 PM ET #23

    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

    Op, I agree.

    And to add to that I have one question to support your point:

    Can anyone here see JR Smith....JR MOflockin' SMITH!!!, a castaway off the worst Knicks team in their history, hoisting an NBA title????


    If that day ever comes....good god....


    lol true.. The east is so damn weak though that they will get another shot at making the finals next year if they can keep love.

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    Op, I agree.

    And to add to that I have one question to support your point:

    Can anyone here see JR Smith....JR MOflockin' SMITH!!!, a castaway off the worst Knicks team in their history, hoisting an NBA title????


    If that day ever comes....good god....


    lol true.. The east is so damn weak though that they will get another shot at making the finals next year if they can keep love.

     
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    Posted: May. 25, 2015 - 1:05 PM ET #24

    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

    Op, I agree.

    And to add to that I have one question to support your point:

    Can anyone here see JR Smith....JR MOflockin' SMITH!!!, a castaway off the worst Knicks team in their history, hoisting an NBA title????


    If that day ever comes....good god....
    #ThanksPhilJackson
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    Op, I agree.

    And to add to that I have one question to support your point:

    Can anyone here see JR Smith....JR MOflockin' SMITH!!!, a castaway off the worst Knicks team in their history, hoisting an NBA title????


    If that day ever comes....good god....
    #ThanksPhilJackson
     
     
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    Posted: May. 25, 2015 - 1:21 PM ET #25

    Tristan Thompson > Kevin Love 

    Love's injury was a blessing in disguise.
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    Love's injury was a blessing in disguise.
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