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    EVERYTHING you need to know about the Mavs@Knicks tonight!!! BIG Write-UP!

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    MoreGeezer
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2014 - 11:27 AM ET #26

    Sorry man you've got no clue what you re talking about.
    This game is a total crapshoot,line is set perfectly and have a play for the knicks,who damn suck.
    You could get the cover,but only if you have enourmous luck,a ton of 3 for knicks or a off day for dallas.

    P.S:i remember you the over on totals win on knicks on the season you had at the start.Hope now you have a clue of who you are writing about.If not,open eyes,for your own good ,pls
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    Sorry man you've got no clue what you re talking about.
    This game is a total crapshoot,line is set perfectly and have a play for the knicks,who damn suck.
    You could get the cover,but only if you have enourmous luck,a ton of 3 for knicks or a off day for dallas.

    P.S:i remember you the over on totals win on knicks on the season you had at the start.Hope now you have a clue of who you are writing about.If not,open eyes,for your own good ,pls
     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2014 - 12:08 PM ET #27

    lemme break down the stats for the game and get back to you scal

    one thing is that dallas is one of the top teams in offensive efficiency and NYN is one of the worst in defensive efficiency even without shumpert

    shumpert is actually one of the highest +/- guys on the team

    w/o shumpert the knicks will have to score more points, that means more shot attempts, earlier in the clock

    that plays directly into the hands of dallas when Chandler plays, when he is on the floor dallas will push for shots when he's not they play a style thru the center, no matter what style they use they can score heaps on NYK, the TT is set at 104.5, they can hit that number a lot depending on how many shots are taken in the game
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    lemme break down the stats for the game and get back to you scal

    one thing is that dallas is one of the top teams in offensive efficiency and NYN is one of the worst in defensive efficiency even without shumpert

    shumpert is actually one of the highest +/- guys on the team

    w/o shumpert the knicks will have to score more points, that means more shot attempts, earlier in the clock

    that plays directly into the hands of dallas when Chandler plays, when he is on the floor dallas will push for shots when he's not they play a style thru the center, no matter what style they use they can score heaps on NYK, the TT is set at 104.5, they can hit that number a lot depending on how many shots are taken in the game
     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2014 - 12:19 PM ET #28

    ok sometimes it really is as simple as this

    dallas averages 110 pts per game and they go to a team that is average in defense missing the best defender on the team and perhaps the best defender at his pos in the league

    yes, i say that with confidence that iman is the best 2 guard defender in basketball

    total set at Dalls 104.5 i'm getting -115 on that side of the prop

    Lets hope your knicks push the pace, hit the century mark, even keep it close and send it to OT

    PIck:

    Dallas team total over 104.5 -115
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    ok sometimes it really is as simple as this

    dallas averages 110 pts per game and they go to a team that is average in defense missing the best defender on the team and perhaps the best defender at his pos in the league

    yes, i say that with confidence that iman is the best 2 guard defender in basketball

    total set at Dalls 104.5 i'm getting -115 on that side of the prop

    Lets hope your knicks push the pace, hit the century mark, even keep it close and send it to OT

    PIck:

    Dallas team total over 104.5 -115
     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2014 - 12:22 PM ET #29

    Pick:

    Over 202


    split 1 unit on each
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    Pick:

    Over 202


    split 1 unit on each
     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2014 - 12:25 PM ET #30

    Quote Originally Posted by MoreGeezer:

    Sorry man you've got no clue what you re talking about.
    This game is a total crapshoot,line is set perfectly and have a play for the knicks,who damn suck.
    You could get the cover,but only if you have enourmous luck,a ton of 3 for knicks or a off day for dallas.

    P.S:i remember you the over on totals win on knicks on the season you had at the start.Hope now you have a clue of who you are writing about.If not,open eyes,for your own good ,pls


    'You could cover but even if you do it's a lucky cover'

    Talk about a poster covering his a ss!!!

    If you win, you're LUCKY! Even though you have two pages of write up and 99% of others provide none.

    Yet he doesn't pick Dallas.

    But the Knicks 'suck'.

    Yup, these are the covers posters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoreGeezer:

    Sorry man you've got no clue what you re talking about.
    This game is a total crapshoot,line is set perfectly and have a play for the knicks,who damn suck.
    You could get the cover,but only if you have enourmous luck,a ton of 3 for knicks or a off day for dallas.

    P.S:i remember you the over on totals win on knicks on the season you had at the start.Hope now you have a clue of who you are writing about.If not,open eyes,for your own good ,pls


    'You could cover but even if you do it's a lucky cover'

    Talk about a poster covering his a ss!!!

    If you win, you're LUCKY! Even though you have two pages of write up and 99% of others provide none.

    Yet he doesn't pick Dallas.

    But the Knicks 'suck'.

    Yup, these are the covers posters.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2014 - 12:37 PM ET #31

    Quote Originally Posted by URZ262:

    this will be an extremely high scoring game with the knicks only good defensive player out, huge huge mismatch at the point, with mavs on rest and a full and healthy lineup, i.e., chandler plays, they hit 110 easy peazy

    they are also a pretty good defensive team

    Melo doesn't care anymore, just cares about the stat sheet, if he hits shots it will sail over 202 imho, i see that as 2-3 points lower than the true line and expect it to hit 210

    Tell us more about this HUGE HUGE mismatch at the point.

    The board wants to hear about what that mismatch is because I personally have no idea what you are talking about...

    Also tell us how the Mavs are 'fully healthy' when Parsons didn't play last game and was subbed for the woeful Richard Jefferson. I noted in the OP he might not play.

    Add to the fact that if Felton plays this game, I'd probably be off it (he's now been upgraded to questionable for some reason so I see him begging in).

    And you do know that the Mavs went to to OT because the plays WENT THROUGH Chandler.

    No wait you don't know that because you are now saying Chandler's play is the key to this game. It certainly is. If they run the offensive sets through him, they won't cover. He'll have a big game regardless because I recommended taking a prop bet on the over on him.

    I'm through just one of your posts and there are two blatant inaccuracies and one that is erroneous in my view with regard to Chandler.

    And you don't even have a side! You have a team total and O/U so clearly 7.5 makes you uncomfortable.


    Oh well, just another conversation with you. This is how they usually go. You'll break it down....for me.



    Again, this is LEAN.

    Can a guy post a lean without the board shi tting its pants?
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    Quote Originally Posted by URZ262:

    this will be an extremely high scoring game with the knicks only good defensive player out, huge huge mismatch at the point, with mavs on rest and a full and healthy lineup, i.e., chandler plays, they hit 110 easy peazy

    they are also a pretty good defensive team

    Melo doesn't care anymore, just cares about the stat sheet, if he hits shots it will sail over 202 imho, i see that as 2-3 points lower than the true line and expect it to hit 210

    Tell us more about this HUGE HUGE mismatch at the point.

    The board wants to hear about what that mismatch is because I personally have no idea what you are talking about...

    Also tell us how the Mavs are 'fully healthy' when Parsons didn't play last game and was subbed for the woeful Richard Jefferson. I noted in the OP he might not play.

    Add to the fact that if Felton plays this game, I'd probably be off it (he's now been upgraded to questionable for some reason so I see him begging in).

    And you do know that the Mavs went to to OT because the plays WENT THROUGH Chandler.

    No wait you don't know that because you are now saying Chandler's play is the key to this game. It certainly is. If they run the offensive sets through him, they won't cover. He'll have a big game regardless because I recommended taking a prop bet on the over on him.

    I'm through just one of your posts and there are two blatant inaccuracies and one that is erroneous in my view with regard to Chandler.

    And you don't even have a side! You have a team total and O/U so clearly 7.5 makes you uncomfortable.


    Oh well, just another conversation with you. This is how they usually go. You'll break it down....for me.



    Again, this is LEAN.

    Can a guy post a lean without the board shi tting its pants?
     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2014 - 1:02 PM ET #32

    Don't understand why you try to convince anybody to take Knicks. They are not bettable right now. I know you have been around awhile and occasionally have good picks on New York teams. This year you are pretty awful. Off year indeed. You can post whatever writeup you want to justify your pick Scal but right now you are definitely on the fade thread. Too many games out there to bet on then having to bet on sh*t New York teams
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    Don't understand why you try to convince anybody to take Knicks. They are not bettable right now. I know you have been around awhile and occasionally have good picks on New York teams. This year you are pretty awful. Off year indeed. You can post whatever writeup you want to justify your pick Scal but right now you are definitely on the fade thread. Too many games out there to bet on then having to bet on sh*t New York teams
     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2014 - 1:03 PM ET #33

    well about 60% of my NBA bets are team totals and totals

    no side pick but the line is coming down, so you beat the closing line

    that's all that matters

    GL to us both
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    well about 60% of my NBA bets are team totals and totals

    no side pick but the line is coming down, so you beat the closing line

    that's all that matters

    GL to us both
     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2014 - 1:10 PM ET #34

    also i would prefer 94.5 TTo for NY as opposed to the current line of +6.5 knicks but the knicks are a good play tonight I would not play Dallas because NYK stats do not justify their win total, they should at least be .500

    home cooking should let the shots go in easier hopefully the crowd will pump energy

    you are 5-8 in NBA this season, i make 13 nba bets every 2-3 days, it's not as pressing to me to win these bets

    NYK TTo 94.5 if you like the knicks, also play money line if that is your lean imo
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    also i would prefer 94.5 TTo for NY as opposed to the current line of +6.5 knicks but the knicks are a good play tonight I would not play Dallas because NYK stats do not justify their win total, they should at least be .500

    home cooking should let the shots go in easier hopefully the crowd will pump energy

    you are 5-8 in NBA this season, i make 13 nba bets every 2-3 days, it's not as pressing to me to win these bets

    NYK TTo 94.5 if you like the knicks, also play money line if that is your lean imo
     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2014 - 1:11 PM ET #35

    Quote Originally Posted by PGAromes82:

    Don't understand why you try to convince anybody to take Knicks. They are not bettable right now. I know you have been around awhile and occasionally have good picks on New York teams. This year you are pretty awful. Off year indeed. You can post whatever writeup you want to justify your pick Scal but right now you are definitely on the fade thread. Too many games out there to bet on then having to bet on sh*t New York teams

    Three games under .500 over 13 games is AWFUL. 

    Write up anything you want, ya know, to discuss a game not a single poster has a write-up on.

    And who's convincing anyone? It's a lean for discussion.

    Lemmings folks...



    They want their head buried in the sand in capping...and in life.


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    Quote Originally Posted by PGAromes82:

    Don't understand why you try to convince anybody to take Knicks. They are not bettable right now. I know you have been around awhile and occasionally have good picks on New York teams. This year you are pretty awful. Off year indeed. You can post whatever writeup you want to justify your pick Scal but right now you are definitely on the fade thread. Too many games out there to bet on then having to bet on sh*t New York teams

    Three games under .500 over 13 games is AWFUL. 

    Write up anything you want, ya know, to discuss a game not a single poster has a write-up on.

    And who's convincing anyone? It's a lean for discussion.

    Lemmings folks...



    They want their head buried in the sand in capping...and in life.


     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2014 - 1:21 PM ET #36

    my love piston would love to dump loads of gelatinous ivory all over your freckles
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    my love piston would love to dump loads of gelatinous ivory all over your freckles
     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2014 - 1:30 PM ET #37

    scuse me NYK 97.5 TT

    i am getting -103 on the prop, I would wait a little while and take it late coz total bettors have generally faded NYK team totals, they only avg 94 per game so this line is 3.5 higher than their avg, so value bettors will drive the price down

    if you can shop lines go for it

    pick

    NYK tto 97.5 1u
    NYK ml ++230 1u


    got 4u on the game
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    scuse me NYK 97.5 TT

    i am getting -103 on the prop, I would wait a little while and take it late coz total bettors have generally faded NYK team totals, they only avg 94 per game so this line is 3.5 higher than their avg, so value bettors will drive the price down

    if you can shop lines go for it

    pick

    NYK tto 97.5 1u
    NYK ml ++230 1u


    got 4u on the game
     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2014 - 1:32 PM ET #38

    Is this record including football? You know better than anyone capping is not you have done in the past, it's what have you done lately. I can care less that you have been here 8 years. Obviously nobody cares what you did in the past. For some reason you keep bringing that up. For a guy that is a perceived expert on New York teams and those teams are all you cap, 5-8 is sh*t! I know it's worse than that because bet on Giants and Jets. Your threads are asking for haters. If you're going to specialize in a few teams at least be viable not 5-8. It's like a kid having trouble in math and going to a Tudor that has a D average in math! Lol do all the write ups you want Scal but sometimes common sense is all you need. That's what your capping lacks this year. What do the sports analysts say "What do your eyes tell you?" Im not a capper and don't try to be. I like seeing everybody's opinion and make a decision for myself. I've watched enough games i have my own opinion on games. My eyes tell me this year New York teams are a great fade.
    “You don’t get what you hope for, you get what you work for!”
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    Is this record including football? You know better than anyone capping is not you have done in the past, it's what have you done lately. I can care less that you have been here 8 years. Obviously nobody cares what you did in the past. For some reason you keep bringing that up. For a guy that is a perceived expert on New York teams and those teams are all you cap, 5-8 is sh*t! I know it's worse than that because bet on Giants and Jets. Your threads are asking for haters. If you're going to specialize in a few teams at least be viable not 5-8. It's like a kid having trouble in math and going to a Tudor that has a D average in math! Lol do all the write ups you want Scal but sometimes common sense is all you need. That's what your capping lacks this year. What do the sports analysts say "What do your eyes tell you?" Im not a capper and don't try to be. I like seeing everybody's opinion and make a decision for myself. I've watched enough games i have my own opinion on games. My eyes tell me this year New York teams are a great fade.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2014 - 1:36 PM ET #39

    I'm on it with you Scal...I don't like it...but reverse line movement tells me everything
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    I'm on it with you Scal...I don't like it...but reverse line movement tells me everything
     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2014 - 1:42 PM ET #40

    I'll finish with, don't post if you can't handle the critism. If you lose you are going to get bashed. The better cappers here just ignore the trolls. Others getting into pissing contests. You have your opinion and I have mine. Most everybody right now doesnt see New York teams like you. You sound like a homer. It's ok to go against your team every now and then lol
    “You don’t get what you hope for, you get what you work for!”
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    I'll finish with, don't post if you can't handle the critism. If you lose you are going to get bashed. The better cappers here just ignore the trolls. Others getting into pissing contests. You have your opinion and I have mine. Most everybody right now doesnt see New York teams like you. You sound like a homer. It's ok to go against your team every now and then lol
     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2014 - 1:48 PM ET #41

    Quote Originally Posted by duosduo:

    pls do us all a favor and give a write up for all the games cause you suck so we can fade

    hey duosduo, go suck ur own dik.
    no one cares what u think
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    Quote Originally Posted by duosduo:

    pls do us all a favor and give a write up for all the games cause you suck so we can fade

    hey duosduo, go suck ur own dik.
    no one cares what u think
     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2014 - 1:53 PM ET #42

    i like the knicks spread tonight good luck scalabrine

    also like t'wolves and kings spreads
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    i like the knicks spread tonight good luck scalabrine

    also like t'wolves and kings spreads
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by PGAromes82:

    I'll finish with, don't post if you can't handle the critism. If you lose you are going to get bashed. The better cappers here just ignore the trolls. Others getting into pissing contests. You have your opinion and I have mine. Most everybody right now doesnt see New York teams like you. You sound like a homer. It's ok to go against your team every now and then lol

    I'm a "homer" but I have a detailed write-up explaining exactly why I like a side.

    Makes perfect sense.

    "My eyes tell me NY teams are a great fade this year" except of course the last 5 of 7 where if you faded them you would have lost yor shirt.

    Oh, that's in the OP you didn't read.

    Carry on with you 'eyeball test' selections. That's exactly how 99% of people cap because they are L A Z Y.

    It's easy. It's like looking at a woman. That's hot. That's not. 

    Except you don't bet money on women and how they look.

    You can do that in pro sports though.

    Good luck.

    You'll need a hell of a lot of it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by PGAromes82:

    I'll finish with, don't post if you can't handle the critism. If you lose you are going to get bashed. The better cappers here just ignore the trolls. Others getting into pissing contests. You have your opinion and I have mine. Most everybody right now doesnt see New York teams like you. You sound like a homer. It's ok to go against your team every now and then lol

    I'm a "homer" but I have a detailed write-up explaining exactly why I like a side.

    Makes perfect sense.

    "My eyes tell me NY teams are a great fade this year" except of course the last 5 of 7 where if you faded them you would have lost yor shirt.

    Oh, that's in the OP you didn't read.

    Carry on with you 'eyeball test' selections. That's exactly how 99% of people cap because they are L A Z Y.

    It's easy. It's like looking at a woman. That's hot. That's not. 

    Except you don't bet money on women and how they look.

    You can do that in pro sports though.

    Good luck.

    You'll need a hell of a lot of it.


     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2014 - 1:56 PM ET #44

    Quote Originally Posted by CMJohnson1:

    I'm on it with you Scal...I don't like it...but reverse line movement tells me everything

    It's an unsettling line with a team like this to say the least. 

    14 in Dallas was nicer. But maybe this will get to 8 by tip. 8 would be nicer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CMJohnson1:

    I'm on it with you Scal...I don't like it...but reverse line movement tells me everything

    It's an unsettling line with a team like this to say the least. 

    14 in Dallas was nicer. But maybe this will get to 8 by tip. 8 would be nicer.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2014 - 1:57 PM ET #45

    Quote Originally Posted by ctk555:

    i like the knicks spread tonight good luck scalabrine

    also like t'wolves and kings spreads

    Like the Knicks, the kings are back to being a mess. I can't cap them and it is dangerous to cap the Knicks. I took the lesser evil based on
    My familiarity with the teams.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ctk555:

    i like the knicks spread tonight good luck scalabrine

    also like t'wolves and kings spreads

    Like the Knicks, the kings are back to being a mess. I can't cap them and it is dangerous to cap the Knicks. I took the lesser evil based on
    My familiarity with the teams.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2014 - 1:59 PM ET #46

    Quote Originally Posted by URZ262:

    scuse me NYK 97.5 TT

    i am getting -103 on the prop, I would wait a little while and take it late coz total bettors have generally faded NYK team totals, they only avg 94 per game so this line is 3.5 higher than their avg, so value bettors will drive the price down

    if you can shop lines go for it

    pick

    NYK tto 97.5 1u
    NYK ml ++230 1u


    got 4u on the game

    Now you're taking the Knicks ML
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    Quote Originally Posted by URZ262:

    scuse me NYK 97.5 TT

    i am getting -103 on the prop, I would wait a little while and take it late coz total bettors have generally faded NYK team totals, they only avg 94 per game so this line is 3.5 higher than their avg, so value bettors will drive the price down

    if you can shop lines go for it

    pick

    NYK tto 97.5 1u
    NYK ml ++230 1u


    got 4u on the game

    Now you're taking the Knicks ML
     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2014 - 2:12 PM ET #47

    scalabrine , what are you playing tonight?
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    scalabrine , what are you playing tonight?
     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2014 - 2:23 PM ET #48

    Ok you have a team that went into Dallas w/o their star (Melo) and almost pulled off the upset. Now, as you pointed out, certain players on the Knicks had above average games. Its also a fact that most teams have a certain letdown mentality when playing a team with a star player out.  The Knicks went out and actually played as a "TEAM" and obviously Dallas was in that letdown mode. So now the Knicks are confident that they can hang with Dallas, even more so now that their star player is back. Not so fast my friend. Fact is the Knicks are not a "TEAM" when Melo  is playing. He, as I assume you have noticed, does not make other players better. He'll get his 25 first and worry about the game second. Just ask Denver. Those are facts. Dallas will not over look or have a let down in this game, especially knowing that Melo should play and what happened in last game. There is a reason why the KNICKS have won only a handful of games so far. Oh and in case I'm wrong this is only a lean.

     

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    Ok you have a team that went into Dallas w/o their star (Melo) and almost pulled off the upset. Now, as you pointed out, certain players on the Knicks had above average games. Its also a fact that most teams have a certain letdown mentality when playing a team with a star player out.  The Knicks went out and actually played as a "TEAM" and obviously Dallas was in that letdown mode. So now the Knicks are confident that they can hang with Dallas, even more so now that their star player is back. Not so fast my friend. Fact is the Knicks are not a "TEAM" when Melo  is playing. He, as I assume you have noticed, does not make other players better. He'll get his 25 first and worry about the game second. Just ask Denver. Those are facts. Dallas will not over look or have a let down in this game, especially knowing that Melo should play and what happened in last game. There is a reason why the KNICKS have won only a handful of games so far. Oh and in case I'm wrong this is only a lean.

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2014 - 2:27 PM ET #49

    Stop backing bad teams.

    Why are the Knicks so bad? His name is Phil Jackson.

    He made the trades and he hired another loser (Fisher) to be his scapegoat for this year until the Knicks can dump Amare's contract.


    Cavs are in need of a REAL NBA quality coach, not some Joker from the EuroBall (the NBA castoffs).

    Raps barely beat the Knicks with a horrible shooting performance.

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    Stop backing bad teams.

    Why are the Knicks so bad? His name is Phil Jackson.

    He made the trades and he hired another loser (Fisher) to be his scapegoat for this year until the Knicks can dump Amare's contract.


    Cavs are in need of a REAL NBA quality coach, not some Joker from the EuroBall (the NBA castoffs).

    Raps barely beat the Knicks with a horrible shooting performance.

     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2014 - 2:27 PM ET #50

    it's all a guessing game anyway, if it goes over 202 I will be a happy camper lots of other games on the card, I think Washington D is really under-rated esp at home, they clamp up on people and minn has a bunch of rookie starters, stay far away from Minn, they Wiz have the best backcourt in the NBA, walls stats > chris paul stats on both offense and defense, best PG in the league, don't thnk many ppl have noticed that, Minn a tired team playing on the road
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    it's all a guessing game anyway, if it goes over 202 I will be a happy camper lots of other games on the card, I think Washington D is really under-rated esp at home, they clamp up on people and minn has a bunch of rookie starters, stay far away from Minn, they Wiz have the best backcourt in the NBA, walls stats > chris paul stats on both offense and defense, best PG in the league, don't thnk many ppl have noticed that, Minn a tired team playing on the road
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