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    EVERYTHING you need to know about the Mavs@Knicks tonight!!! BIG Write-UP!

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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2014 - 8:36 AM ET #1

    NBA Record: 5-8

    I'm taking a break but Dallas only plays the Knicks twice a year, this being the last time they play so I have to dip my feet into this one.

    Why the interest?

    1. The Trade

    ...The trade that sent Tyson Chandler to Dallas and brought back Calderon, Dalembert and Larkin.

    Folks, the Knicks don't have much to go with concerning their lineup. Shumpert is gone. JR is questionable and probably won't go. So we need the bodies on the floor that we have to score.

    Can we depend on them?

    Well, we have to look to Calderon, Dalembert and Larkin, the ex-Mavs to step up against their former team.

    In a 109-102 OT loss on 11/26, did those three step up?

    Calderon averages 8p/4a/3r.

    The game vs. his former team? Off the charts..

    21points; 10!!! rebounds; 4 assists; 7-9 from 3!

    Dalembert averages 4p/5a/1r.

    The game vs. his former team? For him, damn good!

    13 pts 13 Rebounds 2 steals 2 blocks.

    BOTH these guys stepped up in a big way and propelled the Knicks to OT in Dallas as FOURTEEN point dogs eventually losing by 7.

    So we need BOTH to step up in a big way again in this game.

    Larkin? No discernable difference between his averages and this game.

    Here is one problem.

    Dalembert has been so brutal of late, he is now coming off the bench. Still, I really hope Fisher sees that he will want to perform against his former team and did in a big way the last game. If he does not give him the start, it will be a problem. That is another unknown, along with JR's status that messes with this pick.

    2. Tyson Chandler

    Well if Dalembert and Calderon stepped up, you must be wondering about how Chandler did last game.

    He's averages 10p/11r/1block

    That night...OFF THE CHARTS.

    17pts 25 Rebounds! and 2 blocks and one steal.

    So in some regard Tyson's play neutralized the step up games of Jose and Samuel.

    3. So how did the Knicks go into OT with the Mavs last game and get the cover?

    Because the Mavs were running plays through Chandler.

    Right from the get-go, Dirk was deferring to Chandler on offense. Yes, Dirk.

    This lead to a breakdown in many plays, lots of iso's underneath and short jumpers for Tyson and it couldn't be sustained over the course of the game, keeping the Knicks in it. Combine this with Calderon and Dalembert and the nights they had and you get a game that goes to OT.

    So what will the Mavs do tonight? It's important because if the Mavs play their up-tempo offense and move away from Tyson and what they did last game, they have a much better shot at covering this number.

    Two thoughts:

    1) Carlisle is smart and will realize that the Knicks are terrible but deferring to Chandler puts the game in jeopardy.

    2) Chandler overrides any intention of his coach (if there is even any intention in the first place and their should be) and demands the ball continuously on offense to fill up his box score and burn the Knicks in his old stomping grounds where he was unceremoniously dismissed.

    Make no mistake, the veiled shots at Chandler from the Knicks last season were many by coaches, media and players. It is a dream come true for Tyson to be with the team he won a championship with and he will be looking forward to his MSG return in a BIG WAY far more than the game in Dallas.

    That is why I suggest looking at Chandler props along with Calderon (Dalembert) props are a stretch.

     

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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.

    NBA Record: 5-8

    I'm taking a break but Dallas only plays the Knicks twice a year, this being the last time they play so I have to dip my feet into this one.

    Why the interest?

    1. The Trade

    ...The trade that sent Tyson Chandler to Dallas and brought back Calderon, Dalembert and Larkin.

    Folks, the Knicks don't have much to go with concerning their lineup. Shumpert is gone. JR is questionable and probably won't go. So we need the bodies on the floor that we have to score.

    Can we depend on them?

    Well, we have to look to Calderon, Dalembert and Larkin, the ex-Mavs to step up against their former team.

    In a 109-102 OT loss on 11/26, did those three step up?

    Calderon averages 8p/4a/3r.

    The game vs. his former team? Off the charts..

    21points; 10!!! rebounds; 4 assists; 7-9 from 3!

    Dalembert averages 4p/5a/1r.

    The game vs. his former team? For him, damn good!

    13 pts 13 Rebounds 2 steals 2 blocks.

    BOTH these guys stepped up in a big way and propelled the Knicks to OT in Dallas as FOURTEEN point dogs eventually losing by 7.

    So we need BOTH to step up in a big way again in this game.

    Larkin? No discernable difference between his averages and this game.

    Here is one problem.

    Dalembert has been so brutal of late, he is now coming off the bench. Still, I really hope Fisher sees that he will want to perform against his former team and did in a big way the last game. If he does not give him the start, it will be a problem. That is another unknown, along with JR's status that messes with this pick.

    2. Tyson Chandler

    Well if Dalembert and Calderon stepped up, you must be wondering about how Chandler did last game.

    He's averages 10p/11r/1block

    That night...OFF THE CHARTS.

    17pts 25 Rebounds! and 2 blocks and one steal.

    So in some regard Tyson's play neutralized the step up games of Jose and Samuel.

    3. So how did the Knicks go into OT with the Mavs last game and get the cover?

    Because the Mavs were running plays through Chandler.

    Right from the get-go, Dirk was deferring to Chandler on offense. Yes, Dirk.

    This lead to a breakdown in many plays, lots of iso's underneath and short jumpers for Tyson and it couldn't be sustained over the course of the game, keeping the Knicks in it. Combine this with Calderon and Dalembert and the nights they had and you get a game that goes to OT.

    So what will the Mavs do tonight? It's important because if the Mavs play their up-tempo offense and move away from Tyson and what they did last game, they have a much better shot at covering this number.

    Two thoughts:

    1) Carlisle is smart and will realize that the Knicks are terrible but deferring to Chandler puts the game in jeopardy.

    2) Chandler overrides any intention of his coach (if there is even any intention in the first place and their should be) and demands the ball continuously on offense to fill up his box score and burn the Knicks in his old stomping grounds where he was unceremoniously dismissed.

    Make no mistake, the veiled shots at Chandler from the Knicks last season were many by coaches, media and players. It is a dream come true for Tyson to be with the team he won a championship with and he will be looking forward to his MSG return in a BIG WAY far more than the game in Dallas.

    That is why I suggest looking at Chandler props along with Calderon (Dalembert) props are a stretch.

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2014 - 8:36 AM ET #2

    4. Knicks confidence

    Knicks have won 5 games. One was against a good team. They beat the Cavs away and then came home with almost the exact same line as this one. They covered the 6 pt lne by 3 vs. the Cavs.

    They didn't beat Dallas away but again, the confidence factor applies. They now think they can hang with Dallas (they can't but confidence and fooling yourself are big in the NBA on a nightly basis), and now they come home with a line of 7. It's a very similar spot.

    5. Knicks vs. the spread.

    Covered 5 of 7 despite losing 6 of 7. 4 of those 6 had spreads within the 6 to 7 range, just like this one. It's a good number here for the Knicks.

    6. Unknowns

    Will Parsons play? No one knows because there is no shootaround for the Mavs today. It's a GOOD thing if he doesn't play, believe me.

    Will JR play? Probably not and I can't even say whether that is good or bad. Hardaway has been having some very big games in his and Melo's absence so we expect him to make up for it.

    Remember the Knicks lost by 7 at the Mavs in OT without Melo. Melo is desperately needed by the Knicks and the player out/other players step up rule usually doesn't apply to a team this bad (as even the Spurs C team beat them by 20).

    Will Felton suddenly play for the Mavs? God he'd LOVE to get on the court in this game.

    Fun Fact: Melo had a sneaker release party yesterday and may step up tonight to sell more shoes (BeginnerBoy posted an article about "Melo the businessman" and believe me, he cares more about the shoes than the sport, but if the sport can sell shoes!!?? More power to him!)

    Another Fun Fact: Mavs only beat the Knicks by 2 on their home court last year on a Dirk brick that fell in. For some reason, the Knicks played very well against them last year while getting the door blown off of them by other big time western conference teams like the Warriors and Spurs and OKC.


    I don't want to pick the Knicks continuously and I'm taking a break but given the above, I'm going to lean Knicks. Don't bust me on not making an official pick. I'm taking a small break but wanted to provide my insights.

    Line is at 7.5 now and might get to 8 if you wait as the public pounds them but I'm going to grab the points here.

    Take a look at Chandler and Calderon over props too if he numbers are around their averages!


    LEAN:

    KNICKS +7.5 over MAVS 

     

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    4. Knicks confidence

    Knicks have won 5 games. One was against a good team. They beat the Cavs away and then came home with almost the exact same line as this one. They covered the 6 pt lne by 3 vs. the Cavs.

    They didn't beat Dallas away but again, the confidence factor applies. They now think they can hang with Dallas (they can't but confidence and fooling yourself are big in the NBA on a nightly basis), and now they come home with a line of 7. It's a very similar spot.

    5. Knicks vs. the spread.

    Covered 5 of 7 despite losing 6 of 7. 4 of those 6 had spreads within the 6 to 7 range, just like this one. It's a good number here for the Knicks.

    6. Unknowns

    Will Parsons play? No one knows because there is no shootaround for the Mavs today. It's a GOOD thing if he doesn't play, believe me.

    Will JR play? Probably not and I can't even say whether that is good or bad. Hardaway has been having some very big games in his and Melo's absence so we expect him to make up for it.

    Remember the Knicks lost by 7 at the Mavs in OT without Melo. Melo is desperately needed by the Knicks and the player out/other players step up rule usually doesn't apply to a team this bad (as even the Spurs C team beat them by 20).

    Will Felton suddenly play for the Mavs? God he'd LOVE to get on the court in this game.

    Fun Fact: Melo had a sneaker release party yesterday and may step up tonight to sell more shoes (BeginnerBoy posted an article about "Melo the businessman" and believe me, he cares more about the shoes than the sport, but if the sport can sell shoes!!?? More power to him!)

    Another Fun Fact: Mavs only beat the Knicks by 2 on their home court last year on a Dirk brick that fell in. For some reason, the Knicks played very well against them last year while getting the door blown off of them by other big time western conference teams like the Warriors and Spurs and OKC.


    I don't want to pick the Knicks continuously and I'm taking a break but given the above, I'm going to lean Knicks. Don't bust me on not making an official pick. I'm taking a small break but wanted to provide my insights.

    Line is at 7.5 now and might get to 8 if you wait as the public pounds them but I'm going to grab the points here.

    Take a look at Chandler and Calderon over props too if he numbers are around their averages!


    LEAN:

    KNICKS +7.5 over MAVS 

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2014 - 9:17 AM ET #3

    Fully agree with the Tyson prop. Very very proud player and I'm sure he felt a little disrespected by the knicks. Curious to see what props will be available
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    Fully agree with the Tyson prop. Very very proud player and I'm sure he felt a little disrespected by the knicks. Curious to see what props will be available
     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2014 - 9:18 AM ET #4

    Quote Originally Posted by duosduo:

    KNICKS CONFIDENCE??THEY THINK THEY CAN HANG??  LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

    WOWWOWOOW IS THIS A FANTASY WRITE UP??


    How do you think they hung with Cleveland in a revenge spot they should have been annihilated in?

    Talent?

    Or motivation and confidence having beaten Cleveland already on their own floor?

    Do you understand how to cap bad teams? The only reason good cappers were backing Chicago, a god awful team with a horrendous give-up QB, is that the 'pressure was off them' and that they'd 'freewheel it and got for it on 4th and 2 at the 50 because why not at this point."

    What else is there to point to with the Bears? The defense is bad, the coaching is bad, the QB is bad and their number 1 receiver was out. Yet the line was 3...

    The Knicks are as bad in NBA terms if not worse.

    So you cap this game by saying "Man! Dallas is REALLY GOOD! And the Knicks are terrible to DALLAS it is!"

    That's how you cap?

    That's what your post says.

    Stick with that over the long term and turn your roll into a dumpster fire, oh and single out one word in a 1,000 and ignore the other 999.


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    Quote Originally Posted by duosduo:

    KNICKS CONFIDENCE??THEY THINK THEY CAN HANG??  LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

    WOWWOWOOW IS THIS A FANTASY WRITE UP??


    How do you think they hung with Cleveland in a revenge spot they should have been annihilated in?

    Talent?

    Or motivation and confidence having beaten Cleveland already on their own floor?

    Do you understand how to cap bad teams? The only reason good cappers were backing Chicago, a god awful team with a horrendous give-up QB, is that the 'pressure was off them' and that they'd 'freewheel it and got for it on 4th and 2 at the 50 because why not at this point."

    What else is there to point to with the Bears? The defense is bad, the coaching is bad, the QB is bad and their number 1 receiver was out. Yet the line was 3...

    The Knicks are as bad in NBA terms if not worse.

    So you cap this game by saying "Man! Dallas is REALLY GOOD! And the Knicks are terrible to DALLAS it is!"

    That's how you cap?

    That's what your post says.

    Stick with that over the long term and turn your roll into a dumpster fire, oh and single out one word in a 1,000 and ignore the other 999.


     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2014 - 9:19 AM ET #5

    Line is 7 everywhere. Love the Knicks too. 
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    Line is 7 everywhere. Love the Knicks too. 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2014 - 9:21 AM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by nbafan88:

    Fully agree with the Tyson prop. Very very proud player and I'm sure he felt a little disrespected by the knicks. Curious to see what props will be available

    I just wish Felton, another proud player, was starting. He was talking about this game the day after he was traded.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nbafan88:

    Fully agree with the Tyson prop. Very very proud player and I'm sure he felt a little disrespected by the knicks. Curious to see what props will be available

    I just wish Felton, another proud player, was starting. He was talking about this game the day after he was traded.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2014 - 9:23 AM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by oldscho0led:

    Line is 7 everywhere. Love the Knicks too. 

    Line is not 7 everywhere. Overwhelming majority of sites have it at 7.5:

    https://www.docsports.com/nba-odds.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldscho0led:

    Line is 7 everywhere. Love the Knicks too. 

    Line is not 7 everywhere. Overwhelming majority of sites have it at 7.5:

    https://www.docsports.com/nba-odds.html
     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2014 - 9:47 AM ET #8

    Hey Mr Duosduo!! Just bet Dallas tomorrow and lets just see what team will win. i bet you lost bigtime betting in nba. lols
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    Hey Mr Duosduo!! Just bet Dallas tomorrow and lets just see what team will win. i bet you lost bigtime betting in nba. lols
     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2014 - 10:01 AM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by duosduo:

    LOL thats why your record is 5-8 because your capping is so good

    hanging with 1 or 2 good teams doesnt mean they are confident IDIOT

    wow you really are stupid hahahahhahahahah

    Yes, 5-8, 13 games, is my worth to this site for what I have provided over 8 years.

    And your cap of the game issssssss?

    Oh, you don't have one other than singling out a single word (that is actually legitimate) for your preference.

    So what is your pick and what is the reasoning??? We are all waiting with baited breath! Can you give me more than 3 sentences on this game?

    I hope so the way you run your mouth here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by duosduo:

    LOL thats why your record is 5-8 because your capping is so good

    hanging with 1 or 2 good teams doesnt mean they are confident IDIOT

    wow you really are stupid hahahahhahahahah

    Yes, 5-8, 13 games, is my worth to this site for what I have provided over 8 years.

    And your cap of the game issssssss?

    Oh, you don't have one other than singling out a single word (that is actually legitimate) for your preference.

    So what is your pick and what is the reasoning??? We are all waiting with baited breath! Can you give me more than 3 sentences on this game?

    I hope so the way you run your mouth here.
     
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    Sorry scal, no way u can back the knicks here. I do recall reading 7 players did not even attend knicks practice. There was no shootaround for dallas. Knicks are in a dissarray with a shiitload of injuries. Yes melo had a shoe party, doesn't matter..as long as he gets his 25pts. Doesn't mean others will. Carlisle is smart, which Is why this game won't be close. Mavs will be in full control of this game. If anything, with all the motivation and revenge factors and what, I expect teams to step up defensively. Both teams will probably start off lazy. Mavs lost to gs, perfrct bounce back game. Mavs win 104-92
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    Sorry scal, no way u can back the knicks here. I do recall reading 7 players did not even attend knicks practice. There was no shootaround for dallas. Knicks are in a dissarray with a shiitload of injuries. Yes melo had a shoe party, doesn't matter..as long as he gets his 25pts. Doesn't mean others will. Carlisle is smart, which Is why this game won't be close. Mavs will be in full control of this game. If anything, with all the motivation and revenge factors and what, I expect teams to step up defensively. Both teams will probably start off lazy. Mavs lost to gs, perfrct bounce back game. Mavs win 104-92
     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2014 - 10:13 AM ET #11

    Scal, what's the status on Melo? 
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    Scal, what's the status on Melo? 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2014 - 10:17 AM ET #12

    Lols Duosduo. Mayaman ka nga pero ugali mo parang smokey mountain, basura! lols shame on you bro.
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    Lols Duosduo. Mayaman ka nga pero ugali mo parang smokey mountain, basura! lols shame on you bro.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2014 - 10:21 AM ET #13

    thanks for the fade material chump. Any more gems for us?
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    thanks for the fade material chump. Any more gems for us?
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoeticJustice:

    Sorry scal, no way u can back the knicks here. I do recall reading 7 players did not even attend knicks practice. There was no shootaround for dallas. Knicks are in a dissarray with a shiitload of injuries. Yes melo had a shoe party, doesn't matter..as long as he gets his 25pts. Doesn't mean others will. Carlisle is smart, which Is why this game won't be close. Mavs will be in full control of this game. If anything, with all the motivation and revenge factors and what, I expect teams to step up defensively. Both teams will probably start off lazy. Mavs lost to gs, perfrct bounce back game. Mavs win 104-92


    Just wanna say, I would take dallas and under here. Strong play on the under
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoeticJustice:

    Sorry scal, no way u can back the knicks here. I do recall reading 7 players did not even attend knicks practice. There was no shootaround for dallas. Knicks are in a dissarray with a shiitload of injuries. Yes melo had a shoe party, doesn't matter..as long as he gets his 25pts. Doesn't mean others will. Carlisle is smart, which Is why this game won't be close. Mavs will be in full control of this game. If anything, with all the motivation and revenge factors and what, I expect teams to step up defensively. Both teams will probably start off lazy. Mavs lost to gs, perfrct bounce back game. Mavs win 104-92


    Just wanna say, I would take dallas and under here. Strong play on the under
     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2014 - 10:26 AM ET #15

    Scal, question for you. Tomorrow is the game we've been dreaming about. Can't believe it is here already. How big will that line be? And will we have to tease? I will get that line early, so I wanna know your thoughts. 
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    Scal, question for you. Tomorrow is the game we've been dreaming about. Can't believe it is here already. How big will that line be? And will we have to tease? I will get that line early, so I wanna know your thoughts. 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoeticJustice:

    Sorry scal, no way u can back the knicks here. I do recall reading 7 players did not even attend knicks practice. There was no shootaround for dallas. Knicks are in a dissarray with a shiitload of injuries. Yes melo had a shoe party, doesn't matter..as long as he gets his 25pts. Doesn't mean others will. Carlisle is smart, which Is why this game won't be close. Mavs will be in full control of this game. If anything, with all the motivation and revenge factors and what, I expect teams to step up defensively. Both teams will probably start off lazy. Mavs lost to gs, perfrct bounce back game. Mavs win 104-92

    Vegas is taking them at 7.5. I am taking them. There are reasons why. I provided them above in detail.

    The shoe party is a tongue in cheek 'fun fact' not a basis for a pick. 

    If the Knicks are a terrible pick, why have they covered 5 of 7. If you said the same thing above the last 7 games (and you easily could have), you lost 5 times ATS. Now the eighth time is COMPLETELY different when it's the Mavs but they covered agaisnt the Raptors, Cavs and Blazers?

    Not sure how you can be that confident especially when you have it as a 12 point win (which isn't exactly a blowout) and that might be a mere 2 baskets outside of a possible closing number of 8. That's free throws to end a game and doesn't Inspire all that much confidence in the other side if you ask me.

    It's a lean anyhow and that's how I see it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoeticJustice:

    Sorry scal, no way u can back the knicks here. I do recall reading 7 players did not even attend knicks practice. There was no shootaround for dallas. Knicks are in a dissarray with a shiitload of injuries. Yes melo had a shoe party, doesn't matter..as long as he gets his 25pts. Doesn't mean others will. Carlisle is smart, which Is why this game won't be close. Mavs will be in full control of this game. If anything, with all the motivation and revenge factors and what, I expect teams to step up defensively. Both teams will probably start off lazy. Mavs lost to gs, perfrct bounce back game. Mavs win 104-92

    Vegas is taking them at 7.5. I am taking them. There are reasons why. I provided them above in detail.

    The shoe party is a tongue in cheek 'fun fact' not a basis for a pick. 

    If the Knicks are a terrible pick, why have they covered 5 of 7. If you said the same thing above the last 7 games (and you easily could have), you lost 5 times ATS. Now the eighth time is COMPLETELY different when it's the Mavs but they covered agaisnt the Raptors, Cavs and Blazers?

    Not sure how you can be that confident especially when you have it as a 12 point win (which isn't exactly a blowout) and that might be a mere 2 baskets outside of a possible closing number of 8. That's free throws to end a game and doesn't Inspire all that much confidence in the other side if you ask me.

    It's a lean anyhow and that's how I see it.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2014 - 10:33 AM ET #17

    Just read on the news that MELO will be out vs. The Mavs.



























    ...... then I woke up.







    Mavs -7.0 BIG!!!



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    Just read on the news that MELO will be out vs. The Mavs.



























    ...... then I woke up.







    Mavs -7.0 BIG!!!



     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2014 - 10:36 AM ET #18

    Quote Originally Posted by begginerboy:

    Scal, question for you. Tomorrow is the game we've been dreaming about. Can't believe it is here already. How big will that line be? And will we have to tease? I will get that line early, so I wanna know your thoughts. 


    Nets Raptors

    I think we are going to have to tease I unfortunately. It will be big. I'm thinking 8 at least. 

    Derozan being out is such a killer. I wanted the raps at full strength for a big time throttling.

    And Landry Fields starting for the Raps is a major downer also. He's awful.

    Nets are on a small upswing here and should beat the heat tonight too going into this game on a three game win streak which is mildly unsettling for a big number.

    Nets on a b2b worsening the line and Raps a 4th in 5. Teasing right now and let's see the line later.
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    Quote Originally Posted by begginerboy:

    Scal, question for you. Tomorrow is the game we've been dreaming about. Can't believe it is here already. How big will that line be? And will we have to tease? I will get that line early, so I wanna know your thoughts. 


    Nets Raptors

    I think we are going to have to tease I unfortunately. It will be big. I'm thinking 8 at least. 

    Derozan being out is such a killer. I wanted the raps at full strength for a big time throttling.

    And Landry Fields starting for the Raps is a major downer also. He's awful.

    Nets are on a small upswing here and should beat the heat tonight too going into this game on a three game win streak which is mildly unsettling for a big number.

    Nets on a b2b worsening the line and Raps a 4th in 5. Teasing right now and let's see the line later.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2014 - 10:38 AM ET #19

    Quote Originally Posted by Champ_Iz_Here:

    thanks for the fade material chump. Any more gems for us?

    It's a lean. Do what you will with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Champ_Iz_Here:

    thanks for the fade material chump. Any more gems for us?

    It's a lean. Do what you will with it.
     
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    Goddamn, why is everybody hating so much on this guy who has already proved that he knows his game !

    Last year all you haters tailed him all day every day whenever he came with an pick. 

    And look at you now..

    Because he is on an cold streak all you haters are going to post FAAADEEE FAADEE NOOOOOB LAME SUCKER NOOB. Fade hem all year if you want, who am I to stop you. 

    But grow up and show some respect and if you have something to say about him, give atleast some insight and arguments why. Then we can talk. 
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    Goddamn, why is everybody hating so much on this guy who has already proved that he knows his game !

    Last year all you haters tailed him all day every day whenever he came with an pick. 

    And look at you now..

    Because he is on an cold streak all you haters are going to post FAAADEEE FAADEE NOOOOOB LAME SUCKER NOOB. Fade hem all year if you want, who am I to stop you. 

    But grow up and show some respect and if you have something to say about him, give atleast some insight and arguments why. Then we can talk. 
     
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    I AGREE SCAL BOL 
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    I AGREE SCAL BOL 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by CovCap_95:

    Goddamn, why is everybody hating so much on this guy who has already proved that he knows his game !

    Last year all you haters tailed him all day every day whenever he came with an pick. 

    And look at you now..

    Because he is on an cold streak all you haters are going to post FAAADEEE FAADEE NOOOOOB LAME SUCKER NOOB. Fade hem all year if you want, who am I to stop you. 

    But grow up and show some respect and if you have something to say about him, give atleast some insight and arguments why. Then we can talk. 


    Thanks. This has been said a billion times and they won't listen.

    Venez
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    Quote Originally Posted by CovCap_95:

    Goddamn, why is everybody hating so much on this guy who has already proved that he knows his game !

    Last year all you haters tailed him all day every day whenever he came with an pick. 

    And look at you now..

    Because he is on an cold streak all you haters are going to post FAAADEEE FAADEE NOOOOOB LAME SUCKER NOOB. Fade hem all year if you want, who am I to stop you. 

    But grow up and show some respect and if you have something to say about him, give atleast some insight and arguments why. Then we can talk. 


    Thanks. This has been said a billion times and they won't listen.

    Venez
     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2014 - 11:13 AM ET #23

    tough game to cap. better off making a play 2h after seeing whether ur assumptions were correct or not. will be keeping tentative 
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    tough game to cap. better off making a play 2h after seeing whether ur assumptions were correct or not. will be keeping tentative 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by OKCSPURS:

    tough game to cap. better off making a play 2h after seeing whether ur assumptions were correct or not. will be keeping tentative 

    I'm a full game capper.

    Lines erode too much at the half and I'm not interested in capping 2H blowouts or backing the Knicks to win for even money with no points if they have a lead at the half.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OKCSPURS:

    tough game to cap. better off making a play 2h after seeing whether ur assumptions were correct or not. will be keeping tentative 

    I'm a full game capper.

    Lines erode too much at the half and I'm not interested in capping 2H blowouts or backing the Knicks to win for even money with no points if they have a lead at the half.
     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2014 - 11:18 AM ET #25

    this will be an extremely high scoring game with the knicks only good defensive player out, huge huge mismatch at the point, with mavs on rest and a full and healthy lineup, i.e., chandler plays, they hit 110 easy peazy

    they are also a pretty good defensive team

    Melo doesn't care anymore, just cares about the stat sheet, if he hits shots it will sail over 202 imho, i see that as 2-3 points lower than the true line and expect it to hit 210
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    this will be an extremely high scoring game with the knicks only good defensive player out, huge huge mismatch at the point, with mavs on rest and a full and healthy lineup, i.e., chandler plays, they hit 110 easy peazy

    they are also a pretty good defensive team

    Melo doesn't care anymore, just cares about the stat sheet, if he hits shots it will sail over 202 imho, i see that as 2-3 points lower than the true line and expect it to hit 210
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