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    Call me crazy but I just wrote the BIGGEST WRITE-UP on the World Wide Web for the BULLS@KINGS GAME!

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    Posted: Feb. 3, 2014 - 11:19 AM ET #1

    There is no line for this game at the moment as I type this semtence but it doesn't matter. This line could be anywhere from Bulls -3 to Kings -1.5. If the Kings could be favored somehow but a small number like -1 (a push at worst), it won't matter. This will be a statement win, and the kings are in desperate need of making a statement of any kind.

    As always, I post the Knicks and Nets (and I have reads on both tonight but like this game more), but if I have been following a team for at least 7 games, I will go outside of my comfort zone and post them. I've been watching the kings closely for 7 games.

    If you are dealing with terrible teams (and the kings are one of them), you need a losing team on an upswing (from a betting perspective) vs. a somewhat decent team on a downswing (from a betting perspective and real world perspective), if you are looking for an outright win (which we need because the line is short).

    Both these teams fulfill these requirements tonight.

    First the team on the downswing:

    The Bulls have lost 3 of 5 and haven't covered in 4 of 7. That should really be 5 of 7 given they barely covered a -1.5 pt spread vs. the Bobcats (opened at -2 in some places so it was a push).

    What is happening to the Bulls is not unlike what could happen to them from 11/24/13 for a month. They lost 11 of 13 against teams like: the Jazz, the Cavs, the Bucks! They couldn't beat anyone. And then they needed a buzzer beater to beat the Bucks in a revenge spot!

    But there was hope. Eventually they'd get Deng back. So what happened after they did? That hope kicked in in 2014. They won 9 of 11 and covered 8 of those games.

    Close the door on that Bulls team because that cash cow has left the barn.

    They beat the Spurs two games ago you say? Nice but not that big a deal. That was a depleted, tired Spurs team and it showed. The Bulls showed their recent true colors on Saturday against the Pelicans. They couldn't break 80, lost by 9 only because of a very late run in the 4th to make it look respectable, and had Anthony Davis own them, a proud defensive team.

    Where is the hope for the Bulls now? Deng is gone. Rose is gone and the Bulls just let Cartier Martin go. Who is Martin? At least he's a guy who can come off an already depleted bench (and one that doesn't raise eyebrows when it comes to talent). Why is Martin to be mentioned here? Thibidou wanted him for the rest of the year. 

    Nice. Let a bench guy go for what? To ram jimmy butler down our throats . Go look how many minutes he's been playing (60! Against Orlando!). Go look how many minutes to the oft-injured Noah has been playing. And you let bench guys go the head coach wants. He's not a loss in terms of box score but a loss in terms of the direction the team is going, or at least where the GM wants them to be: as SELLERS. Sellers are not winners unless you get huge spreads when it comes to betting. The Bulls are Sellers. Don't invest in Sellers.

    Put simply, the organization is trading it's stars, losing them to injury and even when cheap bench players can be retained, they go too. This is not a team you want to be betting on at the moment. Even the wins the Bulls have recently are against the dregs of the league (Lakers, Sixers, Magic). Take out that one spurs win and the bulls don't look much different than a below average team.



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    There is no line for this game at the moment as I type this semtence but it doesn't matter. This line could be anywhere from Bulls -3 to Kings -1.5. If the Kings could be favored somehow but a small number like -1 (a push at worst), it won't matter. This will be a statement win, and the kings are in desperate need of making a statement of any kind.

    As always, I post the Knicks and Nets (and I have reads on both tonight but like this game more), but if I have been following a team for at least 7 games, I will go outside of my comfort zone and post them. I've been watching the kings closely for 7 games.

    If you are dealing with terrible teams (and the kings are one of them), you need a losing team on an upswing (from a betting perspective) vs. a somewhat decent team on a downswing (from a betting perspective and real world perspective), if you are looking for an outright win (which we need because the line is short).

    Both these teams fulfill these requirements tonight.

    First the team on the downswing:

    The Bulls have lost 3 of 5 and haven't covered in 4 of 7. That should really be 5 of 7 given they barely covered a -1.5 pt spread vs. the Bobcats (opened at -2 in some places so it was a push).

    What is happening to the Bulls is not unlike what could happen to them from 11/24/13 for a month. They lost 11 of 13 against teams like: the Jazz, the Cavs, the Bucks! They couldn't beat anyone. And then they needed a buzzer beater to beat the Bucks in a revenge spot!

    But there was hope. Eventually they'd get Deng back. So what happened after they did? That hope kicked in in 2014. They won 9 of 11 and covered 8 of those games.

    Close the door on that Bulls team because that cash cow has left the barn.

    They beat the Spurs two games ago you say? Nice but not that big a deal. That was a depleted, tired Spurs team and it showed. The Bulls showed their recent true colors on Saturday against the Pelicans. They couldn't break 80, lost by 9 only because of a very late run in the 4th to make it look respectable, and had Anthony Davis own them, a proud defensive team.

    Where is the hope for the Bulls now? Deng is gone. Rose is gone and the Bulls just let Cartier Martin go. Who is Martin? At least he's a guy who can come off an already depleted bench (and one that doesn't raise eyebrows when it comes to talent). Why is Martin to be mentioned here? Thibidou wanted him for the rest of the year. 

    Nice. Let a bench guy go for what? To ram jimmy butler down our throats . Go look how many minutes he's been playing (60! Against Orlando!). Go look how many minutes to the oft-injured Noah has been playing. And you let bench guys go the head coach wants. He's not a loss in terms of box score but a loss in terms of the direction the team is going, or at least where the GM wants them to be: as SELLERS. Sellers are not winners unless you get huge spreads when it comes to betting. The Bulls are Sellers. Don't invest in Sellers.

    Put simply, the organization is trading it's stars, losing them to injury and even when cheap bench players can be retained, they go too. This is not a team you want to be betting on at the moment. Even the wins the Bulls have recently are against the dregs of the league (Lakers, Sixers, Magic). Take out that one spurs win and the bulls don't look much different than a below average team.



     
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    Speaking of below average, onto the Kings.

    You have to find the right game to back a team on a long losing streak. Given the above, this is the game. 

    But there major signs the Kings will break out tonight. Let's look at their last few games:

    Last game: were cruising to win off a big third quarter against the Spurs AT San Antonio and gave it all up in the last quarter and lost by two with a game winner by G ay off the side of the rim.
    That was a gutty performance off a back to back with the Mavs at Dallas for a team like this.

    What happened in the Dallas game the night before?

    Kings were cruising to a win off a big third quarter and again gave it up in the 4th and lost by 4.

    The game prior to that they hung tough with the Grizz for 3Q's. 

    Prior to that, they lost to the lousy Jazz but covered the number.

    So they are starting to pay us. They've covered 3 of 4 (jazz closed at -7.5 and that was a cover) and even in this recent 7 game losing streak they were game for the Nuggets and even went toe to toe with the Pacers on 1/25 several games ago, maybe the best team in the league and they needed OT to beat them.

    It doesn't matter that Cousins might not play. I know Gray is brutal but he's been here long enough for this stretch win this game.

    Is there hope for the Kings? Of course. Look at the money they are spending and the trades they are making. They aren't jettisoning stars and cheap bench players. Blueprints for a new arena was announced and they have something to look forward to.

    This is "hope" vs. "diminishing hope" tonight even though one team is obviously better than the other.

    The last thing the Bulls as gonna get up for is a game against the awful kings on the road. 

    The Kings? This streak has to end NOW at home and their 3 covers in the past 4 and a cover against the Pacers in the losing streak shows they will not only pay us, but have the motivation for a statement win tonight.

    Remember when i gave the lakers out +7 to beat the Celtics while they were on a six game losing streak. They won outright. The spread did not matter.

    Ok the line just came out: Bull -1.5.

    Not sure if the squares will drive that to 2 or lower it to a pickum but it shouldn't get to the kings giving points.

    Which means, with a statement win, there will be no spread to worry about covering. Time to get our money back.

    The PICK:

    KINGS +1.5 vs. Bulls (take it all the way to Kings -1 if it moves there). 
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    Speaking of below average, onto the Kings.

    You have to find the right game to back a team on a long losing streak. Given the above, this is the game. 

    But there major signs the Kings will break out tonight. Let's look at their last few games:

    Last game: were cruising to win off a big third quarter against the Spurs AT San Antonio and gave it all up in the last quarter and lost by two with a game winner by G ay off the side of the rim.
    That was a gutty performance off a back to back with the Mavs at Dallas for a team like this.

    What happened in the Dallas game the night before?

    Kings were cruising to a win off a big third quarter and again gave it up in the 4th and lost by 4.

    The game prior to that they hung tough with the Grizz for 3Q's. 

    Prior to that, they lost to the lousy Jazz but covered the number.

    So they are starting to pay us. They've covered 3 of 4 (jazz closed at -7.5 and that was a cover) and even in this recent 7 game losing streak they were game for the Nuggets and even went toe to toe with the Pacers on 1/25 several games ago, maybe the best team in the league and they needed OT to beat them.

    It doesn't matter that Cousins might not play. I know Gray is brutal but he's been here long enough for this stretch win this game.

    Is there hope for the Kings? Of course. Look at the money they are spending and the trades they are making. They aren't jettisoning stars and cheap bench players. Blueprints for a new arena was announced and they have something to look forward to.

    This is "hope" vs. "diminishing hope" tonight even though one team is obviously better than the other.

    The last thing the Bulls as gonna get up for is a game against the awful kings on the road. 

    The Kings? This streak has to end NOW at home and their 3 covers in the past 4 and a cover against the Pacers in the losing streak shows they will not only pay us, but have the motivation for a statement win tonight.

    Remember when i gave the lakers out +7 to beat the Celtics while they were on a six game losing streak. They won outright. The spread did not matter.

    Ok the line just came out: Bull -1.5.

    Not sure if the squares will drive that to 2 or lower it to a pickum but it shouldn't get to the kings giving points.

    Which means, with a statement win, there will be no spread to worry about covering. Time to get our money back.

    The PICK:

    KINGS +1.5 vs. Bulls (take it all the way to Kings -1 if it moves there). 
     
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    Posted: Feb. 3, 2014 - 11:34 AM ET #3

    STILL WANT TO SEE WHAT YOU HAVE ON  KNICK &  BROOKLYN GAMES

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    STILL WANT TO SEE WHAT YOU HAVE ON  KNICK &  BROOKLYN GAMES

     
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    Posted: Feb. 3, 2014 - 11:36 AM ET #4

    Pretty good write up.  Need to think about it but leaning your way.
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    Pretty good write up.  Need to think about it but leaning your way.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 3, 2014 - 11:38 AM ET #5


    dont understand though why the bulls are given much respect by the linesmakers. Honestly, as bad as they are right now, line couldve been easily set to kings being favorites. but how come they are still favored here? is it because they are the chicago bulls, the team michael jordan brought to promiseland 6 times?
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    dont understand though why the bulls are given much respect by the linesmakers. Honestly, as bad as they are right now, line couldve been easily set to kings being favorites. but how come they are still favored here? is it because they are the chicago bulls, the team michael jordan brought to promiseland 6 times?
     
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    Posted: Feb. 3, 2014 - 11:41 AM ET #6

    Dam that's a long write up .....just for sac town  kings game ......... Good stuff though...
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    Dam that's a long write up .....just for sac town  kings game ......... Good stuff though...
     
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    Posted: Feb. 3, 2014 - 11:49 AM ET #7

    Blazers or wizards?
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    Posted: Feb. 3, 2014 - 11:49 AM ET #8

    Cousins is still out thats why and bulls a tricky ass team. They win when no one believes im them.
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    Cousins is still out thats why and bulls a tricky ass team. They win when no one believes im them.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 3, 2014 - 11:50 AM ET #9

    Bulls a tricky team I meant
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    Posted: Feb. 3, 2014 - 11:55 AM ET #10


    A unit on Kings to support your writeup. 
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    A unit on Kings to support your writeup. 
     
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    Posted: Feb. 3, 2014 - 11:58 AM ET #11

    God Bless you. Ive been wondering around the forums for years and always look forward to your write ups. Watched the Bulls game on Sat night vs NOP and I get your point. Had SAC in mind, with the write up you just slammed in our faces, I like it even more.

    Dont know what you had in mind but I was leaning Knicks today but thanks its always appreciated.
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    God Bless you. Ive been wondering around the forums for years and always look forward to your write ups. Watched the Bulls game on Sat night vs NOP and I get your point. Had SAC in mind, with the write up you just slammed in our faces, I like it even more.

    Dont know what you had in mind but I was leaning Knicks today but thanks its always appreciated.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 3, 2014 - 12:00 PM ET #12

    just wandering, if you took all that time to write this up and you feel this confident in your pick, why not take kings ML? do you think the bulls will win by a point?
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    just wandering, if you took all that time to write this up and you feel this confident in your pick, why not take kings ML? do you think the bulls will win by a point?
     
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    Posted: Feb. 3, 2014 - 12:25 PM ET #13

     nice post BOL
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     nice post BOL
     
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    Posted: Feb. 3, 2014 - 12:29 PM ET #14

    Scalabrine -- any thoughts on the refs for that game tonight?  That is the only angle that could spook me off the Kings.
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    Scalabrine -- any thoughts on the refs for that game tonight?  That is the only angle that could spook me off the Kings.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by TsikenBreast:


    dont understand though why the bulls are given much respect by the linesmakers. Honestly, as bad as they are right now, line couldve been easily set to kings being favorites. but how come they are still favored here? is it because they are the chicago bulls, the team michael jordan brought to promiseland 6 times?
    Line is what it is because kings have lost 7 in a row (and more before that) and the books typically refuse to open a line with the team on a losing streak as favorites because they will take too much action from the impulsive squares on the dog ( who is the better team and is .500 for what it's worth) who will say a team on a losing streak spotting points is a sure thing.

    But as we saw with the Knicks/Nets when the Knicks were on a nine game losing streak, the public can react and drive a line to -1.5 Knicks because the Knicks are a public team.

    Kings are not a public team so I don't expect it here.

    Jordan? I think that aura is long gone. Bulls smothering D on certain nights (and the fact they are a somewhat public team from a major city) results in a premium you'll have to pay for them .
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    dont understand though why the bulls are given much respect by the linesmakers. Honestly, as bad as they are right now, line couldve been easily set to kings being favorites. but how come they are still favored here? is it because they are the chicago bulls, the team michael jordan brought to promiseland 6 times?
    Line is what it is because kings have lost 7 in a row (and more before that) and the books typically refuse to open a line with the team on a losing streak as favorites because they will take too much action from the impulsive squares on the dog ( who is the better team and is .500 for what it's worth) who will say a team on a losing streak spotting points is a sure thing.

    But as we saw with the Knicks/Nets when the Knicks were on a nine game losing streak, the public can react and drive a line to -1.5 Knicks because the Knicks are a public team.

    Kings are not a public team so I don't expect it here.

    Jordan? I think that aura is long gone. Bulls smothering D on certain nights (and the fact they are a somewhat public team from a major city) results in a premium you'll have to pay for them .
     
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    Posted: Feb. 3, 2014 - 12:32 PM ET #16

    Quote Originally Posted by bobmaloogatimesfive:

    Scalabrine -- any thoughts on the refs for that game tonight?  That is the only angle that could spook me off the Kings.

    Don't worry about the refs tonight. Kings should play well enough to get a statement win. 
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    Scalabrine -- any thoughts on the refs for that game tonight?  That is the only angle that could spook me off the Kings.

    Don't worry about the refs tonight. Kings should play well enough to get a statement win. 
     
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    Posted: Feb. 3, 2014 - 12:33 PM ET #17

    Quote Originally Posted by Mikey_T:

    just wandering, if you took all that time to write this up and you feel this confident in your pick, why not take kings ML? do you think the bulls will win by a point?

    My site doesn't offer ML's for lines this small. Need at least -3 for a ML.
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    just wandering, if you took all that time to write this up and you feel this confident in your pick, why not take kings ML? do you think the bulls will win by a point?

    My site doesn't offer ML's for lines this small. Need at least -3 for a ML.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 3, 2014 - 12:33 PM ET #18

    Quote Originally Posted by venezolanisimo:

     nice post BOL
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     nice post BOL
     
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    Posted: Feb. 3, 2014 - 12:34 PM ET #19

    Quote Originally Posted by RBK_35:

    God Bless you. Ive been wondering around the forums for years and always look forward to your write ups. Watched the Bulls game on Sat night vs NOP and I get your point. Had SAC in mind, with the write up you just slammed in our faces, I like it even more.

    Dont know what you had in mind but I was leaning Knicks today but thanks its always appreciated.

    Thanks. No comment on Knicks nets. Haven't given either as much thought as this one.
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    God Bless you. Ive been wondering around the forums for years and always look forward to your write ups. Watched the Bulls game on Sat night vs NOP and I get your point. Had SAC in mind, with the write up you just slammed in our faces, I like it even more.

    Dont know what you had in mind but I was leaning Knicks today but thanks its always appreciated.

    Thanks. No comment on Knicks nets. Haven't given either as much thought as this one.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 3, 2014 - 12:34 PM ET #20

    Queens 
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    Posted: Feb. 3, 2014 - 12:35 PM ET #21

    Quote Originally Posted by vasilli07:


    A unit on Kings to support your writeup. 

    Take it from the books.
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    A unit on Kings to support your writeup. 

    Take it from the books.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 3, 2014 - 12:35 PM ET #22

    Quote Originally Posted by i_Win_u_Lose:

    Dam that's a long write up .....just for sac town  kings game ......... Good stuff though...
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    Dam that's a long write up .....just for sac town  kings game ......... Good stuff though...
     
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    Posted: Feb. 3, 2014 - 12:36 PM ET #23

    Quote Originally Posted by tuck321:

    Pretty good write up.  Need to think about it but leaning your way.
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    Pretty good write up.  Need to think about it but leaning your way.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 3, 2014 - 12:36 PM ET #24

    Quote Originally Posted by SPIDERWEBB:

    STILL WANT TO SEE WHAT YOU HAVE ON  KNICK &  BROOKLYN GAMES


    No comment. This is the game of the night.
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    STILL WANT TO SEE WHAT YOU HAVE ON  KNICK &  BROOKLYN GAMES


    No comment. This is the game of the night.
     
     
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    Posted: Feb. 3, 2014 - 12:37 PM ET #25

    Quote Originally Posted by PoeticJustice:

    Blazers or wizards?

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    Blazers or wizards?

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