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    Kyrie forcing a trade in after 2017 is the dagger....Why would not want to play with LBJ...Only reason Fakers got AD is because Klutch James and they had to give up the farm and most likely botched the trade in their end when they will be forced finalize the trade on July 6th.  Look at all the Lakers young guys last season..NONE of them wanted to play with LBJ.....Now all this talk on how Kawhi..Kyrie..Jimmy Buckets...Kemba are willing to take less to play with LBJ and be 3rd Wheel.....
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    Kyrie forcing a trade in after 2017 is the dagger....Why would not want to play with LBJ...Only reason Fakers got AD is because Klutch James and they had to give up the farm and most likely botched the trade in their end when they will be forced finalize the trade on July 6th.  Look at all the Lakers young guys last season..NONE of them wanted to play with LBJ.....Now all this talk on how Kawhi..Kyrie..Jimmy Buckets...Kemba are willing to take less to play with LBJ and be 3rd Wheel.....
     
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    Bosh & Love were star with Toronto & Minny.  Ask yourself..why did the Cavs trade the #1 Pick for Love?  He must have been a scrub.  Playing with Lebrick will ruin your career...Dwade...Took massive payouts and probably lost out of $50 million +...Kyrie...Bolted and wanted out even after bailing LBJ out and hitting the clutch shots in 2016...Bosh...Numbers wen way down....Love...Number went way down....all this talk on how players want to come and play with LBJ..He ruins career's and takes all the credit.  
     
    Who's career did he ruin?
    Last time I checked Wade, Bosh, Kyrie and Love won Championships with James!
    -Wade wasn't a spring chicken.
    -Bosh's heart problems did him in.
    -Love has his own depression issues.
    -Flat earth Kyrie is not the brightest star in the universe. I'm sure the Celtics are amused by him.
     
    Furthermore, getting stars to come run in LOS ANGELES is going to be a lot easier than CLEVELAND!
     
     
     
     
     
     
     

     

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    Bosh & Love were star with Toronto & Minny.  Ask yourself..why did the Cavs trade the #1 Pick for Love?  He must have been a scrub.  Playing with Lebrick will ruin your career...Dwade...Took massive payouts and probably lost out of $50 million +...Kyrie...Bolted and wanted out even after bailing LBJ out and hitting the clutch shots in 2016...Bosh...Numbers wen way down....Love...Number went way down....all this talk on how players want to come and play with LBJ..He ruins career's and takes all the credit.  
     
    Who's career did he ruin?
    Last time I checked Wade, Bosh, Kyrie and Love won Championships with James!
    -Wade wasn't a spring chicken.
    -Bosh's heart problems did him in.
    -Love has his own depression issues.
    -Flat earth Kyrie is not the brightest star in the universe. I'm sure the Celtics are amused by him.
     
    Furthermore, getting stars to come run in LOS ANGELES is going to be a lot easier than CLEVELAND!
     
     
     
     
     
     
     

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiderpug:

    Bosh & Love were star with Toronto & Minny.  Ask yourself..why did the Cavs trade the #1 Pick for Love?  He must have been a scrub.  Playing with Lebrick will ruin your career...Dwade...Took massive payouts and probably lost out of $50 million +...Kyrie...Bolted and wanted out even after bailing LBJ out and hitting the clutch shots in 2016...Bosh...Numbers wen way down....Love...Number went way down....all this talk on how players want to come and play with LBJ..He ruins career's and takes all the credit.  
     
    Who's career did he ruin?
    Last time I checked Wade, Bosh, Kyrie and Love won Championships with James!
    -Wade wasn't a spring chicken.
    -Bosh's heart problems did him in.
    -Love has his own depression issues.
    -Flat earth Kyrie is not the brightest star in the universe. I'm sure the Celtics are amused by him.
     
    Furthermore, getting stars to come run in LOS ANGELES is going to be a lot easier than CLEVELAND!

    Wade was only in the league 7 years - 2010 when they teamed up in Miami..  He took a payout to make it happen. Miami had his rights. way different than James and Bosh joining as free agents. Wade never once in his career got a Massive contract. 

    Bosh never had a heart condition when playing with James.. His numbers took a massive hit was a 3rd option.

    Love had depression issue probably because of LBJ.. I would too if I had to change my game. 

    Flat earth Kyrie?  So do the Lakers want Flat Earth Kyrie now? He was Flat earth in Cleveland..Now he's a 3rd superstar...And Kyrie won that title for LBJ in 2016...You know that right?  James was bailed out ala Ray Allen...

    Playing with Klutch James is not all hyped up as it is made to be...Proof is in the pudding...
     
     
     
     
     
     
     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiderpug:

    Bosh & Love were star with Toronto & Minny.  Ask yourself..why did the Cavs trade the #1 Pick for Love?  He must have been a scrub.  Playing with Lebrick will ruin your career...Dwade...Took massive payouts and probably lost out of $50 million +...Kyrie...Bolted and wanted out even after bailing LBJ out and hitting the clutch shots in 2016...Bosh...Numbers wen way down....Love...Number went way down....all this talk on how players want to come and play with LBJ..He ruins career's and takes all the credit.  
     
    Who's career did he ruin?
    Last time I checked Wade, Bosh, Kyrie and Love won Championships with James!
    -Wade wasn't a spring chicken.
    -Bosh's heart problems did him in.
    -Love has his own depression issues.
    -Flat earth Kyrie is not the brightest star in the universe. I'm sure the Celtics are amused by him.
     
    Furthermore, getting stars to come run in LOS ANGELES is going to be a lot easier than CLEVELAND!

    Wade was only in the league 7 years - 2010 when they teamed up in Miami..  He took a payout to make it happen. Miami had his rights. way different than James and Bosh joining as free agents. Wade never once in his career got a Massive contract. 

    Bosh never had a heart condition when playing with James.. His numbers took a massive hit was a 3rd option.

    Love had depression issue probably because of LBJ.. I would too if I had to change my game. 

    Flat earth Kyrie?  So do the Lakers want Flat Earth Kyrie now? He was Flat earth in Cleveland..Now he's a 3rd superstar...And Kyrie won that title for LBJ in 2016...You know that right?  James was bailed out ala Ray Allen...

    Playing with Klutch James is not all hyped up as it is made to be...Proof is in the pudding...
     
     
     
     
     
     
     

     

     
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    I am going to say Kwhai already has his mind made up. He isnt going to the Lakers not enough money for him. New York and New Jersey make absolutely no sense to me he doesnt like cold weather. Why leave the Raptors for 2 franchises who are not top 4 in the east. The Bucks the 76ers and Celtics all better. So he can get the most money from the Raptors short or long term deal. The Clippers are the only place he leaves for I think. I can see that because he wants to go home they can give him max money and a chance to contend right away. I just have this feeling he is staying in Toronto on a short deal 3 years 2 plus 1 player option. Either way thank you Khwai Leonard for leading the Raptors and Canada to its first NBA championship without you no way in hell this happens. He doesnt owe the Raptors or the fans anything he has told everyone from day one what he wants. He delivered a NBA title in one year that's just EPIC! 

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    I am going to say Kwhai already has his mind made up. He isnt going to the Lakers not enough money for him. New York and New Jersey make absolutely no sense to me he doesnt like cold weather. Why leave the Raptors for 2 franchises who are not top 4 in the east. The Bucks the 76ers and Celtics all better. So he can get the most money from the Raptors short or long term deal. The Clippers are the only place he leaves for I think. I can see that because he wants to go home they can give him max money and a chance to contend right away. I just have this feeling he is staying in Toronto on a short deal 3 years 2 plus 1 player option. Either way thank you Khwai Leonard for leading the Raptors and Canada to its first NBA championship without you no way in hell this happens. He doesnt owe the Raptors or the fans anything he has told everyone from day one what he wants. He delivered a NBA title in one year that's just EPIC! 

     
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    Saying LBJ ruins careers is the one of the dumbest things I have ever read on this site. 

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    Saying LBJ ruins careers is the one of the dumbest things I have ever read on this site. 

    Keep the laughing emojis coming.....I think they might be laughing at you and not with you.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thornton6:

    I am going to say Kwhai already has his mind made up. He isnt going to the Lakers not enough money for him. New York and New Jersey make absolutely no sense to me he doesnt like cold weather. Why leave the Raptors for 2 franchises who are not top 4 in the east. The Bucks the 76ers and Celtics all better. So he can get the most money from the Raptors short or long term deal. The Clippers are the only place he leaves for I think. I can see that because he wants to go home they can give him max money and a chance to contend right away. I just have this feeling he is staying in Toronto on a short deal 3 years 2 plus 1 player option. Either way thank you Khwai Leonard for leading the Raptors and Canada to its first NBA championship without you no way in hell this happens. He doesnt owe the Raptors or the fans anything he has told everyone from day one what he wants. He delivered a NBA title in one year that's just EPIC! 



    It just baffles me how Fakers fans think that Kawhi who is clearly better than LBJ and better than AD and has won 2 titles with 2 different teams/2 MVP's of the finals is willing to take less than a max money to join a team and be 2nd/3rd option.  Fakers offering him less than max $$ is Complete dis-respect. Any team with LBJ will be an LBJ team.  Kawhi is proven winner already and has beaten LBJ in the finals for a title.  
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    Quote Originally Posted by thornton6:

    I am going to say Kwhai already has his mind made up. He isnt going to the Lakers not enough money for him. New York and New Jersey make absolutely no sense to me he doesnt like cold weather. Why leave the Raptors for 2 franchises who are not top 4 in the east. The Bucks the 76ers and Celtics all better. So he can get the most money from the Raptors short or long term deal. The Clippers are the only place he leaves for I think. I can see that because he wants to go home they can give him max money and a chance to contend right away. I just have this feeling he is staying in Toronto on a short deal 3 years 2 plus 1 player option. Either way thank you Khwai Leonard for leading the Raptors and Canada to its first NBA championship without you no way in hell this happens. He doesnt owe the Raptors or the fans anything he has told everyone from day one what he wants. He delivered a NBA title in one year that's just EPIC! 



    It just baffles me how Fakers fans think that Kawhi who is clearly better than LBJ and better than AD and has won 2 titles with 2 different teams/2 MVP's of the finals is willing to take less than a max money to join a team and be 2nd/3rd option.  Fakers offering him less than max $$ is Complete dis-respect. Any team with LBJ will be an LBJ team.  Kawhi is proven winner already and has beaten LBJ in the finals for a title.  
     
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    [Quote: Originally Posted by gambleholic63]

    Saying LBJ ruins careers is the one of the dumbest things I have ever read on this site. 

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    [Quote: Originally Posted by gambleholic63]

    Saying LBJ ruins careers is the one of the dumbest things I have ever read on this site. 

    Keep the laughing emojis coming.....I think they might be laughing at you and not with you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thornton6:

    I am going to say Kwhai already has his mind made up. He isnt going to the Lakers not enough money for him. New York and New Jersey make absolutely no sense to me he doesnt like cold weather. Why leave the Raptors for 2 franchises who are not top 4 in the east. The Bucks the 76ers and Celtics all better. So he can get the most money from the Raptors short or long term deal. The Clippers are the only place he leaves for I think. I can see that because he wants to go home they can give him max money and a chance to contend right away. I just have this feeling he is staying in Toronto on a short deal 3 years 2 plus 1 player option. Either way thank you Khwai Leonard for leading the Raptors and Canada to its first NBA championship without you no way in hell this happens. He doesnt owe the Raptors or the fans anything he has told everyone from day one what he wants. He delivered a NBA title in one year that's just EPIC!

    I'd be okay with Kawhi going to the Clippers because I followed the franchise in the seventies when they were the Buffalo Braves with Bob McAdoo, and Randy Smith. Besides they haven't won an NBA Championship in 50 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thornton6:

    I am going to say Kwhai already has his mind made up. He isnt going to the Lakers not enough money for him. New York and New Jersey make absolutely no sense to me he doesnt like cold weather. Why leave the Raptors for 2 franchises who are not top 4 in the east. The Bucks the 76ers and Celtics all better. So he can get the most money from the Raptors short or long term deal. The Clippers are the only place he leaves for I think. I can see that because he wants to go home they can give him max money and a chance to contend right away. I just have this feeling he is staying in Toronto on a short deal 3 years 2 plus 1 player option. Either way thank you Khwai Leonard for leading the Raptors and Canada to its first NBA championship without you no way in hell this happens. He doesnt owe the Raptors or the fans anything he has told everyone from day one what he wants. He delivered a NBA title in one year that's just EPIC!

    I'd be okay with Kawhi going to the Clippers because I followed the franchise in the seventies when they were the Buffalo Braves with Bob McAdoo, and Randy Smith. Besides they haven't won an NBA Championship in 50 years.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaCup:

    Quote Originally Posted by thornton6:

    I am going to say Kwhai already has his mind made up. He isnt going to the Lakers not enough money for him. New York and New Jersey make absolutely no sense to me he doesnt like cold weather. Why leave the Raptors for 2 franchises who are not top 4 in the east. The Bucks the 76ers and Celtics all better. So he can get the most money from the Raptors short or long term deal. The Clippers are the only place he leaves for I think. I can see that because he wants to go home they can give him max money and a chance to contend right away. I just have this feeling he is staying in Toronto on a short deal 3 years 2 plus 1 player option. Either way thank you Khwai Leonard for leading the Raptors and Canada to its first NBA championship without you no way in hell this happens. He doesnt owe the Raptors or the fans anything he has told everyone from day one what he wants. He delivered a NBA title in one year that's just EPIC!
    I'd be okay with Kawhi going to the Clippers because I followed the franchise in the seventies when they were the Buffalo Braves with Bob McAdoo, and Randy Smith. Besides they haven't won an NBA Championship in 50 years.

     

    Well, maybe he should stay in Toronto and help the Leafs.....besides, they haven't won a Stanley Cup in 50 years!!! 

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    I am going to say Kwhai already has his mind made up. He isnt going to the Lakers not enough money for him. New York and New Jersey make absolutely no sense to me he doesnt like cold weather. Why leave the Raptors for 2 franchises who are not top 4 in the east. The Bucks the 76ers and Celtics all better. So he can get the most money from the Raptors short or long term deal. The Clippers are the only place he leaves for I think. I can see that because he wants to go home they can give him max money and a chance to contend right away. I just have this feeling he is staying in Toronto on a short deal 3 years 2 plus 1 player option. Either way thank you Khwai Leonard for leading the Raptors and Canada to its first NBA championship without you no way in hell this happens. He doesnt owe the Raptors or the fans anything he has told everyone from day one what he wants. He delivered a NBA title in one year that's just EPIC!
    I'd be okay with Kawhi going to the Clippers because I followed the franchise in the seventies when they were the Buffalo Braves with Bob McAdoo, and Randy Smith. Besides they haven't won an NBA Championship in 50 years.

     

    Well, maybe he should stay in Toronto and help the Leafs.....besides, they haven't won a Stanley Cup in 50 years!!! 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaCup:

    Quote Originally Posted by thornton6:

    I am going to say Kwhai already has his mind made up. He isnt going to the Lakers not enough money for him. New York and New Jersey make absolutely no sense to me he doesnt like cold weather. Why leave the Raptors for 2 franchises who are not top 4 in the east. The Bucks the 76ers and Celtics all better. So he can get the most money from the Raptors short or long term deal. The Clippers are the only place he leaves for I think. I can see that because he wants to go home they can give him max money and a chance to contend right away. I just have this feeling he is staying in Toronto on a short deal 3 years 2 plus 1 player option. Either way thank you Khwai Leonard for leading the Raptors and Canada to its first NBA championship without you no way in hell this happens. He doesnt owe the Raptors or the fans anything he has told everyone from day one what he wants. He delivered a NBA title in one year that's just EPIC!
    I'd be okay with Kawhi going to the Clippers because I followed the franchise in the seventies when they were the Buffalo Braves with Bob McAdoo, and Randy Smith. Besides they haven't won an NBA Championship in 50 years.
      Well, maybe he should stay in Toronto and help the Leafs.....besides, they haven't won a Stanley Cup in 50 years!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaCup:

    Quote Originally Posted by thornton6:

    I am going to say Kwhai already has his mind made up. He isnt going to the Lakers not enough money for him. New York and New Jersey make absolutely no sense to me he doesnt like cold weather. Why leave the Raptors for 2 franchises who are not top 4 in the east. The Bucks the 76ers and Celtics all better. So he can get the most money from the Raptors short or long term deal. The Clippers are the only place he leaves for I think. I can see that because he wants to go home they can give him max money and a chance to contend right away. I just have this feeling he is staying in Toronto on a short deal 3 years 2 plus 1 player option. Either way thank you Khwai Leonard for leading the Raptors and Canada to its first NBA championship without you no way in hell this happens. He doesnt owe the Raptors or the fans anything he has told everyone from day one what he wants. He delivered a NBA title in one year that's just EPIC!
    I'd be okay with Kawhi going to the Clippers because I followed the franchise in the seventies when they were the Buffalo Braves with Bob McAdoo, and Randy Smith. Besides they haven't won an NBA Championship in 50 years.
      Well, maybe he should stay in Toronto and help the Leafs.....besides, they haven't won a Stanley Cup in 50 years!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by davemsh:

    Quote Originally Posted by thornton6:

    I am going to say Kwhai already has his mind made up. He isnt going to the Lakers not enough money for him. New York and New Jersey make absolutely no sense to me he doesnt like cold weather. Why leave the Raptors for 2 franchises who are not top 4 in the east. The Bucks the 76ers and Celtics all better. So he can get the most money from the Raptors short or long term deal. The Clippers are the only place he leaves for I think. I can see that because he wants to go home they can give him max money and a chance to contend right away. I just have this feeling he is staying in Toronto on a short deal 3 years 2 plus 1 player option. Either way thank you Khwai Leonard for leading the Raptors and Canada to its first NBA championship without you no way in hell this happens. He doesnt owe the Raptors or the fans anything he has told everyone from day one what he wants. He delivered a NBA title in one year that's just EPIC! 
    It just baffles me how Fakers fans think that Kawhi who is clearly better than LBJ and better than AD and has won 2 titles with 2 different teams/2 MVP's of the finals is willing to take less than a max money to join a team and be 2nd/3rd option.  Fakers offering him less than max $$ is Complete dis-respect. Any team with LBJ will be an LBJ team.  Kawhi is proven winner already and has beaten LBJ in the finals for a title.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thornton6:

    I am going to say Kwhai already has his mind made up. He isnt going to the Lakers not enough money for him. New York and New Jersey make absolutely no sense to me he doesnt like cold weather. Why leave the Raptors for 2 franchises who are not top 4 in the east. The Bucks the 76ers and Celtics all better. So he can get the most money from the Raptors short or long term deal. The Clippers are the only place he leaves for I think. I can see that because he wants to go home they can give him max money and a chance to contend right away. I just have this feeling he is staying in Toronto on a short deal 3 years 2 plus 1 player option. Either way thank you Khwai Leonard for leading the Raptors and Canada to its first NBA championship without you no way in hell this happens. He doesnt owe the Raptors or the fans anything he has told everyone from day one what he wants. He delivered a NBA title in one year that's just EPIC! 
    It just baffles me how Fakers fans think that Kawhi who is clearly better than LBJ and better than AD and has won 2 titles with 2 different teams/2 MVP's of the finals is willing to take less than a max money to join a team and be 2nd/3rd option.  Fakers offering him less than max $$ is Complete dis-respect. Any team with LBJ will be an LBJ team.  Kawhi is proven winner already and has beaten LBJ in the finals for a title.

    And made James look like a fool when he was with the Heat!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaCup:

    It just baffles me how Fakers fans think that Kawhi who is clearly better than LBJ and better than AD and has won 2 titles with 2 different teams/2 MVP's of the finals is willing to take less than a max money to join a team and be 2nd/3rd option.  Fakers offering him less than max $$ is Complete dis-respect. Any team with LBJ will be an LBJ team.  Kawhi is proven winner already and has beaten LBJ in the finals for a title.

    And made James look like a fool when he was with the Heat!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2--fhKJ60w


    Even the title they won in 2013 when the Spurs were up 3-2 and choke that lead away and Ray Allen bailed them out...LBJ was horrific in that 4th quarter..especially the last 2 minutes...Ofcourse noone will remember that cause they won...
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    It just baffles me how Fakers fans think that Kawhi who is clearly better than LBJ and better than AD and has won 2 titles with 2 different teams/2 MVP's of the finals is willing to take less than a max money to join a team and be 2nd/3rd option.  Fakers offering him less than max $$ is Complete dis-respect. Any team with LBJ will be an LBJ team.  Kawhi is proven winner already and has beaten LBJ in the finals for a title.

    And made James look like a fool when he was with the Heat!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2--fhKJ60w


    Even the title they won in 2013 when the Spurs were up 3-2 and choke that lead away and Ray Allen bailed them out...LBJ was horrific in that 4th quarter..especially the last 2 minutes...Ofcourse noone will remember that cause they won...
     
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    Ladies & Gentleman, we have Lebron James apologists! Now it's a party. To say Lebron kills careers is a little extreme burmt he definitely demands a style of play that smothers other players with star potential. It's fine for washed up veterans and never will be's (you guy's no all the names) bur his iso ball dominant style is both outdated and an inefficient use of talent. Look at both teams that were in finals. Two of the best ball movement teams in the league. Everybody gets the ball. Everybody is put in the position to make the best play. Look at the teams they beat in the conference finals. One guy is gonn hold the ball, you go stand over there and maybe he'll pass it to you. Even the young Lakers showed potential preLebron with a ball movement system under Walton. They almost made the playoffs with no stars and a bunch of kids. Lebron comes in and says, "Nope. That's not what I do."

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    Ladies & Gentleman, we have Lebron James apologists! Now it's a party. To say Lebron kills careers is a little extreme burmt he definitely demands a style of play that smothers other players with star potential. It's fine for washed up veterans and never will be's (you guy's no all the names) bur his iso ball dominant style is both outdated and an inefficient use of talent. Look at both teams that were in finals. Two of the best ball movement teams in the league. Everybody gets the ball. Everybody is put in the position to make the best play. Look at the teams they beat in the conference finals. One guy is gonn hold the ball, you go stand over there and maybe he'll pass it to you. Even the young Lakers showed potential preLebron with a ball movement system under Walton. They almost made the playoffs with no stars and a bunch of kids. Lebron comes in and says, "Nope. That's not what I do."

    I know Lebron apologists will say "....but...but...before Lebron got hurt..." What about after he came back?

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Ladies & Gentleman, we have Lebron James apologists! Now it's a party. To say Lebron kills careers is a little extreme burmt he definitely demands a style of play that smothers other players with star potential. It's fine for washed up veterans and never will be's (you guy's no all the names) bur his iso ball dominant style is both outdated and an inefficient use of talent. Look at both teams that were in finals. Two of the best ball movement teams in the league. Everybody gets the ball. Everybody is put in the position to make the best play. Look at the teams they beat in the conference finals. One guy is gonn hold the ball, you go stand over there and maybe he'll pass it to you. Even the young Lakers showed potential preLebron with a ball movement system under Walton. They almost made the playoffs with no stars and a bunch of kids. Lebron comes in and says, "Nope. That's not what I do."

    I know Lebron apologists will say "....but...but...before Lebron got hurt..." What about after he came back?


    Ofcourse he doesn't kill careers but he certainly does not help their careers and its not all hyped up as it seems to be playing with him as you take a back seat to him and numbers will drop significantly. Whichever star player plays with him will never be the face of the team or get the credit.. If they win its cause LBJ...If they lose...Well LBJ did not get enough help and his supporting cast was bad.  
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    Ladies & Gentleman, we have Lebron James apologists! Now it's a party. To say Lebron kills careers is a little extreme burmt he definitely demands a style of play that smothers other players with star potential. It's fine for washed up veterans and never will be's (you guy's no all the names) bur his iso ball dominant style is both outdated and an inefficient use of talent. Look at both teams that were in finals. Two of the best ball movement teams in the league. Everybody gets the ball. Everybody is put in the position to make the best play. Look at the teams they beat in the conference finals. One guy is gonn hold the ball, you go stand over there and maybe he'll pass it to you. Even the young Lakers showed potential preLebron with a ball movement system under Walton. They almost made the playoffs with no stars and a bunch of kids. Lebron comes in and says, "Nope. That's not what I do."

    I know Lebron apologists will say "....but...but...before Lebron got hurt..." What about after he came back?


    Ofcourse he doesn't kill careers but he certainly does not help their careers and its not all hyped up as it seems to be playing with him as you take a back seat to him and numbers will drop significantly. Whichever star player plays with him will never be the face of the team or get the credit.. If they win its cause LBJ...If they lose...Well LBJ did not get enough help and his supporting cast was bad.  
     
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    1. If NO keeps the #4 pick it will be easy for LA and NO to wait for the end of July, thus freeing up cap space for both teams. If this pick is traded it becomes much harder dealing with 3rd team. 

    2 If Kawhi, Butler, Kemba or Kyrie want in, Davis will waive his trade bonus. If the Laker have to settle for second tier player then he will not. 

    3. Wagner, Bonga and possibly even Jones can be traded to free up some cap space too. 

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    1. If NO keeps the #4 pick it will be easy for LA and NO to wait for the end of July, thus freeing up cap space for both teams. If this pick is traded it becomes much harder dealing with 3rd team. 

    2 If Kawhi, Butler, Kemba or Kyrie want in, Davis will waive his trade bonus. If the Laker have to settle for second tier player then he will not. 

    3. Wagner, Bonga and possibly even Jones can be traded to free up some cap space too. 

     
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    I am not a fan of the Raptors, but I hope Kawhi stays in Toronto as a fan of the NBA. To me, there is something wrong about not attempting to defend a championship. However, if he goes West, that's another nail in Golden State's chances again next season. 
    Warriors will be fine when everyone gets healthy assuming KD & Klay resigns...Its not like Kawhi beat a fully healthy Dubs squad like Craptors fans are thinking they did.
    Exactly. I don't understand why so many people even think this was an accomplishment. Toronto had easy pickings, especially after Klay, (one of their MVP's) goes down.

    Golden State had a bad fate this year. No way they were winning that with everything that went down. I even said before game 6 if TOR was to win the series it would be in that game 6. It's not hard to read into the script if you look at all scerarios and go or bet with which one that makes the most sense for the books and the NBA. But Toronto would have never won that series, had Klay been able to play the entire thing. And that's with KD out, GS still would have won that series. Klay going down was the X-factor. GS proved they can win without KD. But they also proved they CANNOT win without Klay.

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    I am not a fan of the Raptors, but I hope Kawhi stays in Toronto as a fan of the NBA. To me, there is something wrong about not attempting to defend a championship. However, if he goes West, that's another nail in Golden State's chances again next season. 
    Warriors will be fine when everyone gets healthy assuming KD & Klay resigns...Its not like Kawhi beat a fully healthy Dubs squad like Craptors fans are thinking they did.
    Exactly. I don't understand why so many people even think this was an accomplishment. Toronto had easy pickings, especially after Klay, (one of their MVP's) goes down.

    Golden State had a bad fate this year. No way they were winning that with everything that went down. I even said before game 6 if TOR was to win the series it would be in that game 6. It's not hard to read into the script if you look at all scerarios and go or bet with which one that makes the most sense for the books and the NBA. But Toronto would have never won that series, had Klay been able to play the entire thing. And that's with KD out, GS still would have won that series. Klay going down was the X-factor. GS proved they can win without KD. But they also proved they CANNOT win without Klay.

     
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    Although I disagree with warriors being fine if Klay resigned. They need Klay. Look at their record without him. Curry doesnt play well without his splash bro at his side. So please re think what you are saying lol. Klay is their MVP I guess after all. He also has a record that even Steph probably won't ever break (A perfect shooting 37 pt quarter) We know Jordan or Kobe or Johnson or Bird or Will Chamberlin will ever break the record. an_roll_laugh

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    Although I disagree with warriors being fine if Klay resigned. They need Klay. Look at their record without him. Curry doesnt play well without his splash bro at his side. So please re think what you are saying lol. Klay is their MVP I guess after all. He also has a record that even Steph probably won't ever break (A perfect shooting 37 pt quarter) We know Jordan or Kobe or Johnson or Bird or Will Chamberlin will ever break the record. an_roll_laugh

     
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    Although I disagree with warriors being fine if Klay resigned. They need Klay. Look at their record without him. Curry doesnt play well without his splash bro at his side. So please re think what you are saying lol. Klay is their MVP I guess after all. He also has a record that even Steph probably won't ever break (A perfect shooting 37 pt quarter) We know Jordan or Kobe or Johnson or Bird or Will Chamberlin will ever break the record. an_roll_laugh

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    Although I disagree with warriors being fine if Klay resigned. They need Klay. Look at their record without him. Curry doesnt play well without his splash bro at his side. So please re think what you are saying lol. Klay is their MVP I guess after all. He also has a record that even Steph probably won't ever break (A perfect shooting 37 pt quarter) We know Jordan or Kobe or Johnson or Bird or Will Chamberlin will ever break the record. an_roll_laugh

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thornton6:

    I am going to say Kwhai already has his mind made up. He isnt going to the Lakers not enough money for him. New York and New Jersey make absolutely no sense to me he doesnt like cold weather. Why leave the Raptors for 2 franchises who are not top 4 in the east. The Bucks the 76ers and Celtics all better. So he can get the most money from the Raptors short or long term deal. The Clippers are the only place he leaves for I think. I can see that because he wants to go home they can give him max money and a chance to contend right away. I just have this feeling he is staying in Toronto on a short deal 3 years 2 plus 1 player option. Either way thank you Khwai Leonard for leading the Raptors and Canada to its first NBA championship without you no way in hell this happens. He doesnt owe the Raptors or the fans anything he has told everyone from day one what he wants. He delivered a NBA title in one year that's just EPIC!
    Toronto is not cold weather? I always figured everywhere in Canada was pretty cold. But I've never been there. So living farther north doesn't mean your temps will be lower consistently?

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    I am going to say Kwhai already has his mind made up. He isnt going to the Lakers not enough money for him. New York and New Jersey make absolutely no sense to me he doesnt like cold weather. Why leave the Raptors for 2 franchises who are not top 4 in the east. The Bucks the 76ers and Celtics all better. So he can get the most money from the Raptors short or long term deal. The Clippers are the only place he leaves for I think. I can see that because he wants to go home they can give him max money and a chance to contend right away. I just have this feeling he is staying in Toronto on a short deal 3 years 2 plus 1 player option. Either way thank you Khwai Leonard for leading the Raptors and Canada to its first NBA championship without you no way in hell this happens. He doesnt owe the Raptors or the fans anything he has told everyone from day one what he wants. He delivered a NBA title in one year that's just EPIC!
    Toronto is not cold weather? I always figured everywhere in Canada was pretty cold. But I've never been there. So living farther north doesn't mean your temps will be lower consistently?

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by davemsh:

    Quote Originally Posted by gambleholic63:

    I am not a fan of the Raptors, but I hope Kawhi stays in Toronto as a fan of the NBA. To me, there is something wrong about not attempting to defend a championship. However, if he goes West, that's another nail in Golden State's chances again next season. 
    Warriors will be fine when everyone gets healthy assuming KD & Klay resigns...Its not like Kawhi beat a fully healthy Dubs squad like Craptors fans are thinking they did.
    Exactly. I don't understand why so many people even think this was an accomplishment. Toronto had easy pickings, especially after Klay, (one of their MVP's) goes do State had a bad fate this year. No way they were winning that with everything that went down. I even said before game 6 if TOR was to win the series it would be in that game 6. It's not hard to read into the script if youave never won that series, had Klay been able to play the entire thing. And that's with KD out, GS still would have won that series. Klay going down was the X-factor. GS proved they can win without KD. But they also proved they CANNOT win without Klay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gambleholic63:

    I am not a fan of the Raptors, but I hope Kawhi stays in Toronto as a fan of the NBA. To me, there is something wrong about not attempting to defend a championship. However, if he goes West, that's another nail in Golden State's chances again next season. 
    Warriors will be fine when everyone gets healthy assuming KD & Klay resigns...Its not like Kawhi beat a fully healthy Dubs squad like Craptors fans are thinking they did.
    Exactly. I don't understand why so many people even think this was an accomplishment. Toronto had easy pickings, especially after Klay, (one of their MVP's) goes do State had a bad fate this year. No way they were winning that with everything that went down. I even said before game 6 if TOR was to win the series it would be in that game 6. It's not hard to read into the script if youave never won that series, had Klay been able to play the entire thing. And that's with KD out, GS still would have won that series. Klay going down was the X-factor. GS proved they can win without KD. But they also proved they CANNOT win without Klay.
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    It just baffles me how Fakers fans think that Kawhi who is clearly better than LBJ and better than AD and has won 2 titles with 2 different teams/2 MVP's of the finals is willing to take less than a max money to join a team and be 2nd/3rd option.  Fakers offering him less than max $$ is Complete dis-respect. Any team with LBJ will be an LBJ team.  Kawhi is proven winner already and has beaten LBJ in the finals for a title. And made James look like a fool when he was with the Heat! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2--fhKJ60w
    Even the title they won in 2013 when the Spurs were up 3-2 and choke that lead away and Ray Allen bailed them out...LBJ was horrific in that 4th quarter..especially the last 2 minutes...Ofcourse noone will remember that cause they won...

    We get it Dave. In your mind every title Lebron has comes with an asterisk. In the meantime, the Warriors are now 6th choice to win in 2020 and fading with no guarantees that they ever rise to prominence anytime soon. 

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    It just baffles me how Fakers fans think that Kawhi who is clearly better than LBJ and better than AD and has won 2 titles with 2 different teams/2 MVP's of the finals is willing to take less than a max money to join a team and be 2nd/3rd option.  Fakers offering him less than max $$ is Complete dis-respect. Any team with LBJ will be an LBJ team.  Kawhi is proven winner already and has beaten LBJ in the finals for a title. And made James look like a fool when he was with the Heat! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2--fhKJ60w
    Even the title they won in 2013 when the Spurs were up 3-2 and choke that lead away and Ray Allen bailed them out...LBJ was horrific in that 4th quarter..especially the last 2 minutes...Ofcourse noone will remember that cause they won...

    We get it Dave. In your mind every title Lebron has comes with an asterisk. In the meantime, the Warriors are now 6th choice to win in 2020 and fading with no guarantees that they ever rise to prominence anytime soon. 

     
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    Really cap master?  You bet golden state to win it all.... but yet no way golden state was winning it all? 

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    Yeah Holy...but if he didn't change his story it would have killed his 15-0, 100% winning streak! bigsmile

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    Wherever Kwahi signs, he will ALWAYS be loved in Canada!!
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    Lakers now scrambling to create max cap space...trying to get rid Wagner & Bongo LOL...Pelicans waiting for the Fakers to offer up Kuzma in exchange to close AD deal July 30th....This should get interesting....Pelicans raping the Fakers...and they knew it all along...Hand over Kuzma if you want that max slot...
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    Lakers now scrambling to create max cap space...trying to get rid Wagner & Bongo LOL...Pelicans waiting for the Fakers to offer up Kuzma in exchange to close AD deal July 30th....This should get interesting....Pelicans raping the Fakers...and they knew it all along...Hand over Kuzma if you want that max slot...
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