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    PennStateMan077
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    Posted: Jul. 26, 2010 - 2:53 PM ET #1

    2nd Pocono race of the season

    we know there are 3 important things about pocono we need to know
    1) Fuel Mileage
    2) Weather Conditions
    3) Will reading Texan's nascar picks be more entertaining than the race.

    with that being said

    Denny and Smoke probably and will be the favorites here.

    Denny won the last 2 races here
    Smoke won the one before that

    All Hendrick cars will be solid here except the 88 
    Jimmie has a 9.5 avg finish here
    Gordon has a 10.7 avg finish here
    Martin has a 11.1 avg finish here

    at this point in time its crazy to count out any RCR car as we know they'll all be running well all day long.

    RFR cars have been coming on strong of late. The new engine looks very good. Maybe sleepers in Edwards and Kenseth as they both finish very well here.

    In Conclusion the last thing you should probably do is fade

    the 16 18 20 24 39 88, because all of our boys suck something awful this season in terms of wins

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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    2nd Pocono race of the season

    we know there are 3 important things about pocono we need to know
    1) Fuel Mileage
    2) Weather Conditions
    3) Will reading Texan's nascar picks be more entertaining than the race.

    with that being said

    Denny and Smoke probably and will be the favorites here.

    Denny won the last 2 races here
    Smoke won the one before that

    All Hendrick cars will be solid here except the 88 
    Jimmie has a 9.5 avg finish here
    Gordon has a 10.7 avg finish here
    Martin has a 11.1 avg finish here

    at this point in time its crazy to count out any RCR car as we know they'll all be running well all day long.

    RFR cars have been coming on strong of late. The new engine looks very good. Maybe sleepers in Edwards and Kenseth as they both finish very well here.

    In Conclusion the last thing you should probably do is fade

    the 16 18 20 24 39 88, because all of our boys suck something awful this season in terms of wins

     
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    Posted: Jul. 26, 2010 - 3:32 PM ET #2

     now thats a writeup

     

    Pretty sure we see goofy odds on 11,14 and 48

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     now thats a writeup

     

    Pretty sure we see goofy odds on 11,14 and 48

     
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    Posted: Jul. 26, 2010 - 3:38 PM ET #3

    I think Pocono is one of my favorite tracks on the circuit.

    I wouldn't count Jaime Mac or Montoya out here this week.
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    I think Pocono is one of my favorite tracks on the circuit.

    I wouldn't count Jaime Mac or Montoya out here this week.
     
    stats1
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    Posted: Jul. 26, 2010 - 3:54 PM ET #4

    Quote Originally Posted by yourpixelarmy:

    I think Pocono is one of my favorite tracks on the circuit.  AGREE WITH U 100%
     
    I wouldn't count Jaime Mac or Montoya out here this week.
      JUAN will never win he always beats himself
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    Quote Originally Posted by yourpixelarmy:

    I think Pocono is one of my favorite tracks on the circuit.  AGREE WITH U 100%
     
    I wouldn't count Jaime Mac or Montoya out here this week.
      JUAN will never win he always beats himself
     
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    Posted: Jul. 26, 2010 - 3:56 PM ET #5

    11 and 33 will have my $ the minute lines r posted...      20 will b my sleeper pk.  best of luck 2 all
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    11 and 33 will have my $ the minute lines r posted...      20 will b my sleeper pk.  best of luck 2 all
     
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    Posted: Jul. 26, 2010 - 4:24 PM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by vegasdennis:

     now thats a writeup

     

    Pretty sure we see goofy odds on 11,14 and 48


    thanks vegas

    would be shocked to see any of those 3 higher than +400
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    Quote Originally Posted by vegasdennis:

     now thats a writeup

     

    Pretty sure we see goofy odds on 11,14 and 48


    thanks vegas

    would be shocked to see any of those 3 higher than +400
     
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    Posted: Jul. 26, 2010 - 4:25 PM ET #7

    YPA,

    I couldnt bet JPM again
    Jamie Mac could be a good player again this week

    stats,

    I agree 11 is the money car 
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    YPA,

    I couldnt bet JPM again
    Jamie Mac could be a good player again this week

    stats,

    I agree 11 is the money car 
     
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    Posted: Jul. 26, 2010 - 5:08 PM ET #8

    Lets not forget Kurt, he has run very well here too. Finished 6th last time here, and came all the way back from the incident at the start of the race where he had to pit under green.
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    Lets not forget Kurt, he has run very well here too. Finished 6th last time here, and came all the way back from the incident at the start of the race where he had to pit under green.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 26, 2010 - 5:48 PM ET #9

    19 races here for kurt

    10 top 10's

    he is very erratic here with avg finish of 16
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    19 races here for kurt

    10 top 10's

    he is very erratic here with avg finish of 16
     
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    Posted: Jul. 26, 2010 - 6:29 PM ET #10

    Some great reads here and love it.  33 is going to be a play for me as well as my boy possibly as a sleeper pick.  If he can qualify towards the front he will be a play for me.  Not going to get anything for Denny so just going to lay off.  Maybe throw some on Montoya.  Finished 2nd here last year in this race and ran 7th earlier this year.  I know, I know, stay away but I like his chances.

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    Some great reads here and love it.  33 is going to be a play for me as well as my boy possibly as a sleeper pick.  If he can qualify towards the front he will be a play for me.  Not going to get anything for Denny so just going to lay off.  Maybe throw some on Montoya.  Finished 2nd here last year in this race and ran 7th earlier this year.  I know, I know, stay away but I like his chances.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 26, 2010 - 6:38 PM ET #11

    Miller,

    33 could be a good play.

    JPM can he actually finish a race?!!!?!?!?!?!
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    Miller,

    33 could be a good play.

    JPM can he actually finish a race?!!!?!?!?!?!
     
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    Posted: Jul. 26, 2010 - 7:38 PM ET #12

    NASCAR has been killing me!

    NASCAR=

    TREE88  =

    I nickel and dime all week long in baseball and have a pretty good week only to piss it all away on racing.

    JPM screwed me out of a win with a bonehead mistake that sent him spinning on 4 fresh tires.

    Then he proceeds to take out my boy who happened to be running a decent race and was looking for a top 10 finish and to possibly move inside that 12 spot.

     

    Then.....CockSukin Jimmy.... that Fuker!!!!! knocks me out of survivor cause he couldn't outrun the damn start and parker this weekend!!!

    PISS ON 48!

    I know I know cry me a river!

     

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    NASCAR has been killing me!

    NASCAR=

    TREE88  =

    I nickel and dime all week long in baseball and have a pretty good week only to piss it all away on racing.

    JPM screwed me out of a win with a bonehead mistake that sent him spinning on 4 fresh tires.

    Then he proceeds to take out my boy who happened to be running a decent race and was looking for a top 10 finish and to possibly move inside that 12 spot.

     

    Then.....CockSukin Jimmy.... that Fuker!!!!! knocks me out of survivor cause he couldn't outrun the damn start and parker this weekend!!!

    PISS ON 48!

    I know I know cry me a river!

     

     
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    Posted: Jul. 26, 2010 - 7:56 PM ET #13

    Anyways...............

    This week you have to look at RCR again imo along with Kyle. I had Kyle saved for this race as my survivor pick if I would have advanced. Kyle was strong earlier this yr and will have the same info as the 11. The 11 will prob be +350 or less which is a no play for me.  Right now I lean with all 3 RCR cars and Kyle. Also agree with shooter. Kurt could be a player here as well.

    Will definately be paying a little closer attention to the opening odds as last week we saw what happened to JPM. Opened at +1000 has never won on an oval and plumented to +300. Oh well. Saved me some more money I guess.

     

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    Anyways...............

    This week you have to look at RCR again imo along with Kyle. I had Kyle saved for this race as my survivor pick if I would have advanced. Kyle was strong earlier this yr and will have the same info as the 11. The 11 will prob be +350 or less which is a no play for me.  Right now I lean with all 3 RCR cars and Kyle. Also agree with shooter. Kurt could be a player here as well.

    Will definately be paying a little closer attention to the opening odds as last week we saw what happened to JPM. Opened at +1000 has never won on an oval and plumented to +300. Oh well. Saved me some more money I guess.

     

     
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    Posted: Jul. 26, 2010 - 8:03 PM ET #14

    great write-up tree

    we've all been there my friend

    I think JR comes up big this week. This could be the help of my uncle talking my ear off about this is JR's shot right here. 

    No love for Smoke this week?
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    great write-up tree

    we've all been there my friend

    I think JR comes up big this week. This could be the help of my uncle talking my ear off about this is JR's shot right here. 

    No love for Smoke this week?
     
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    Posted: Jul. 26, 2010 - 8:13 PM ET #15

    Oh yeah...definately think Smoke could play. He just seems to be a bit off somewhere.I'm sure they'll figure it out.

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    Oh yeah...definately think Smoke could play. He just seems to be a bit off somewhere.I'm sure they'll figure it out.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 26, 2010 - 8:18 PM ET #16

    14 will be good but won't find any good value

    I do agree RCR cars will be strong
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    14 will be good but won't find any good value

    I do agree RCR cars will be strong
     
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    Posted: Jul. 26, 2010 - 8:29 PM ET #17

    What about Burton this week?

    I think he is a real darkhorse
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    What about Burton this week?

    I think he is a real darkhorse
     
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    Posted: Jul. 26, 2010 - 8:37 PM ET #18

    I may play all 3 RCR cars and the 20 as a longshot
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    I may play all 3 RCR cars and the 20 as a longshot
     
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    Posted: Jul. 26, 2010 - 8:37 PM ET #19

    keep in mind also guys, chances are this will most likely come down to fuel mileage...as the 1st one at pocono this year didn't....

    If that was to happen, guys like Bowyer, martin, Jr ,newman, Edwards, Biffle, Stewart will probably be more keen on racing for points that taking a chance at running out of fuel.....

    While guys in the back with nothing to lose will probably go for it....guys like Kahne, logano, Truex, Montoya

     

    Try to remember how close Sam Hornish Jr. was to winning this race in June......

     

    The long shot guys certainly have a shot here, although Denny should be the man once again, but as Tree said, we will be lucky to see +350 on him this week.

     

    Truck race is there for the 1st time too , Kahne is running Kyle's truck I believe and should be a clear favorate to win there on saturday.

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    keep in mind also guys, chances are this will most likely come down to fuel mileage...as the 1st one at pocono this year didn't....

    If that was to happen, guys like Bowyer, martin, Jr ,newman, Edwards, Biffle, Stewart will probably be more keen on racing for points that taking a chance at running out of fuel.....

    While guys in the back with nothing to lose will probably go for it....guys like Kahne, logano, Truex, Montoya

     

    Try to remember how close Sam Hornish Jr. was to winning this race in June......

     

    The long shot guys certainly have a shot here, although Denny should be the man once again, but as Tree said, we will be lucky to see +350 on him this week.

     

    Truck race is there for the 1st time too , Kahne is running Kyle's truck I believe and should be a clear favorate to win there on saturday.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 26, 2010 - 8:39 PM ET #20

    Quote from Kahne

    "It’s been a long time since I’ve competed in the Camping World Truck Series,” said Kahne, who led 149 of a possible 284 laps in his two Truck Series starts. “It’s a great opportunity for me to come back to the series and compete with really good equipment. I’ve watched Kyle put the team together and it’s really been impressive how well they’ve done this year as a first-year team. I’m really looking forward to working with Rick Ren (director of competition) and Eric Phillips (crew chief) and trying to put the No. 18 Toyota of Scranton Toyota Tundra in victory lane.”

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    Quote from Kahne

    "It’s been a long time since I’ve competed in the Camping World Truck Series,” said Kahne, who led 149 of a possible 284 laps in his two Truck Series starts. “It’s a great opportunity for me to come back to the series and compete with really good equipment. I’ve watched Kyle put the team together and it’s really been impressive how well they’ve done this year as a first-year team. I’m really looking forward to working with Rick Ren (director of competition) and Eric Phillips (crew chief) and trying to put the No. 18 Toyota of Scranton Toyota Tundra in victory lane.”

     
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    Posted: Jul. 26, 2010 - 8:42 PM ET #21

    BTW,
     
    Kurt Busch is #2 in driver rating, with a high rating of 150.0 (highest you can get) and an avg. rating of 103.7 .....
     
    He has an avg. finish of 12.9 there.
     
     
    the rating of 103 is pretty much telling you he will finish in the top 10.
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    BTW,
     
    Kurt Busch is #2 in driver rating, with a high rating of 150.0 (highest you can get) and an avg. rating of 103.7 .....
     
    He has an avg. finish of 12.9 there.
     
     
    the rating of 103 is pretty much telling you he will finish in the top 10.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 26, 2010 - 8:45 PM ET #22

    Oh yes this week the trucks try the new qualifying where orders based on practice times
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    Oh yes this week the trucks try the new qualifying where orders based on practice times
     
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    Posted: Jul. 27, 2010 - 7:10 AM ET #23

    Lets get the proper thread back to the top, and guys don't even respond to retard, its only a matter of time till CT deals with him.
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    Lets get the proper thread back to the top, and guys don't even respond to retard, its only a matter of time till CT deals with him.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 27, 2010 - 9:12 AM ET #24

    Sportsbook.com has odds up if 5dimes is close on a few of these I'll be happy

     

    AJ Allmendinger  +8000    
     
        Bobby Labonte  +10000    
     
        Brad Keselowski  +10000    
     
        Carl Edwards  +2000    
     
        Clint Bowyer  +1500    
     
        Dale Earnhardt Jr  +5000    
     
        David Ragan  +10000    
     
        David Reutimann  +5000    
     
        Denny Hamlin  +450    
     
        Elliott Sadler  +10000    
     
        Greg Biffle  +1800    
     
        Jamie McMurray  +2000    
     
        Jeff Burton  +1500    
     
        Jeff Gordon  +800    
     
        Jimmie Johnson  +500    
     
        Joey Logano  +3500    
     
        Juan Pablo Montoya  +2000    
     
        Kasey Kahne  +2000    
     
        Kevin Harvick  +1000    
     
        Kurt Busch  +2000    
     
        Kyle Busch  +800    
     
        Marcos Ambrose  +10000    
     
        Mark Martin  +2500    
     
        Martin Truex Jr  +4000    
     
        Matt Kenseth  +3000    
     
        Paul Menard  +10000    
     
        Reed Sorenson  +10000    
     
        Regan Smith  +10000    
     
        Ryan Newman  +4000    
     
        Sam Hornish Jr  +10000    
     
        Scott Speed  +10000    
     
        Tony Stewart  +1000    
     
        Travis Kvapil  +10000    
     
        zx Field (Any Other Driver)  +10000   

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    Sportsbook.com has odds up if 5dimes is close on a few of these I'll be happy

     

    AJ Allmendinger  +8000    
     
        Bobby Labonte  +10000    
     
        Brad Keselowski  +10000    
     
        Carl Edwards  +2000    
     
        Clint Bowyer  +1500    
     
        Dale Earnhardt Jr  +5000    
     
        David Ragan  +10000    
     
        David Reutimann  +5000    
     
        Denny Hamlin  +450    
     
        Elliott Sadler  +10000    
     
        Greg Biffle  +1800    
     
        Jamie McMurray  +2000    
     
        Jeff Burton  +1500    
     
        Jeff Gordon  +800    
     
        Jimmie Johnson  +500    
     
        Joey Logano  +3500    
     
        Juan Pablo Montoya  +2000    
     
        Kasey Kahne  +2000    
     
        Kevin Harvick  +1000    
     
        Kurt Busch  +2000    
     
        Kyle Busch  +800    
     
        Marcos Ambrose  +10000    
     
        Mark Martin  +2500    
     
        Martin Truex Jr  +4000    
     
        Matt Kenseth  +3000    
     
        Paul Menard  +10000    
     
        Reed Sorenson  +10000    
     
        Regan Smith  +10000    
     
        Ryan Newman  +4000    
     
        Sam Hornish Jr  +10000    
     
        Scott Speed  +10000    
     
        Tony Stewart  +1000    
     
        Travis Kvapil  +10000    
     
        zx Field (Any Other Driver)  +10000   

     
     
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    Posted: Jul. 27, 2010 - 9:59 AM ET #25

    Logano 35:1 is a value play. He was 4th before Harvick spun him with a few to go in the earlier race this season. It doesn't hurt that he's running in Gibbs equipment.

    I actually like the odds on all the Gibbs cars and 25:1 on Martin.
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    Logano 35:1 is a value play. He was 4th before Harvick spun him with a few to go in the earlier race this season. It doesn't hurt that he's running in Gibbs equipment.

    I actually like the odds on all the Gibbs cars and 25:1 on Martin.
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