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    Goggles-Pisano
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    Posted: Mar. 4, 2010 - 7:14 PM ET #51

    Shooter, kyle at 3 -1 is a sound financial investment. GL

    jayski is good and i'll take a look at racingone.com thx

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    Shooter, kyle at 3 -1 is a sound financial investment. GL

    jayski is good and i'll take a look at racingone.com thx

     
    madshooter72
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    Posted: Mar. 4, 2010 - 9:46 PM ET #52

    Ok, this is the last straw for me with bookmaker. 

    Take a read of this chat i just had

     

    Please wait for a site operator to respond.

    You are now chatting with 'CS - '

    CS - : Welcome, nice to have you with us today . . . I’m happy to assist you . . .

    you: can you please ask the linesman when they plan on fixing the to win on Carl Edwards. He is showing +500 and it should be +1500. I asked about this 2 hours ago. they have adjusted other lines since then. So somebody please explain what the issue is

    CS - : I was the one you talk to and the line manager says that the line is ok as it is

    you: Are you serious, every other book out there has it at +1500, and you guys are pricing it at +500. Is that what you are telling me

    you: Please go ask him again, cause I really don't think you would be shortchanging the line by 3x what everyone else has out there

    CS - : One moment please, I will be with you shortly.

    you: You should have him talk to me

    CS - : I just ask and he said that the line is ok, if you like you can call him at this number 1-866-946-2747.

    you: 5 dimes is +1500, the greek is +1400, bodog is +1400

    you: what is his name, i would like to call him, cause he must be smoking crack to put a line out there like that

    CS - : We are not other books, we have our own lines

    you: Well, if you put a sad ass line like that out there, you should be embarassed to even be a book

    you: that is 3 times less than every other book out there

    you: very sad indeed

    CS - : Sorry for that

    CS - : Is there anything else I can assist you with?

    you: yes, what is the guys name I need to talk too

    you: If you are going to put junk lines out there on a sport that you don't feel good about, than you shouldn't even put lines out there for it

    CS - : You can ask for the props line manager Sebastian

    you: thank you jaydra, not your fault, just can't believe what I just read, thats all

    Reply

    Ok, this is the last straw for me with bookmaker. 

    Take a read of this chat i just had

     

    Please wait for a site operator to respond.

    You are now chatting with 'CS - '

    CS - : Welcome, nice to have you with us today . . . I’m happy to assist you . . .

    you: can you please ask the linesman when they plan on fixing the to win on Carl Edwards. He is showing +500 and it should be +1500. I asked about this 2 hours ago. they have adjusted other lines since then. So somebody please explain what the issue is

    CS - : I was the one you talk to and the line manager says that the line is ok as it is

    you: Are you serious, every other book out there has it at +1500, and you guys are pricing it at +500. Is that what you are telling me

    you: Please go ask him again, cause I really don't think you would be shortchanging the line by 3x what everyone else has out there

    CS - : One moment please, I will be with you shortly.

    you: You should have him talk to me

    CS - : I just ask and he said that the line is ok, if you like you can call him at this number 1-866-946-2747.

    you: 5 dimes is +1500, the greek is +1400, bodog is +1400

    you: what is his name, i would like to call him, cause he must be smoking crack to put a line out there like that

    CS - : We are not other books, we have our own lines

    you: Well, if you put a sad ass line like that out there, you should be embarassed to even be a book

    you: that is 3 times less than every other book out there

    you: very sad indeed

    CS - : Sorry for that

    CS - : Is there anything else I can assist you with?

    you: yes, what is the guys name I need to talk too

    you: If you are going to put junk lines out there on a sport that you don't feel good about, than you shouldn't even put lines out there for it

    CS - : You can ask for the props line manager Sebastian

    you: thank you jaydra, not your fault, just can't believe what I just read, thats all

     
    madshooter72
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    Posted: Mar. 4, 2010 - 9:50 PM ET #53

    well, there you have it.

     

    Bookmaker sucks for nascar, not worth using at all....

    Fuck them , I am done with that shit book, They flat out put a bullshit line out there and completly owned up to it......

    I hope everyone in here pulls there money out of there and goes with a real book like dimes or greek, hell even bodog is 10 x 's better than bookmaker... Even Betphoenix dosen't put bullshit lines out there like that.

     

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    well, there you have it.

     

    Bookmaker sucks for nascar, not worth using at all....

    Fuck them , I am done with that shit book, They flat out put a bullshit line out there and completly owned up to it......

    I hope everyone in here pulls there money out of there and goes with a real book like dimes or greek, hell even bodog is 10 x 's better than bookmaker... Even Betphoenix dosen't put bullshit lines out there like that.

     

     
    MR TINGLES
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    Posted: Mar. 4, 2010 - 10:05 PM ET #54

    Quote Originally Posted by Looselugs:




    This is what i use

    NASCAR.COM - News, Schedule, Drivers, Tracks, Fantasy & Video from NASCAR



    one of the best sites out there is racingone dot com, lots of good info there.

    every now and than i check out nascar dot com

    another good one is jayski dot com......think espn is tied in with it


    THANKS SHOOTER AND LOOSE LUGS


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    Quote Originally Posted by Looselugs:




    This is what i use

    NASCAR.COM - News, Schedule, Drivers, Tracks, Fantasy & Video from NASCAR



    one of the best sites out there is racingone dot com, lots of good info there.

    every now and than i check out nascar dot com

    another good one is jayski dot com......think espn is tied in with it


    THANKS SHOOTER AND LOOSE LUGS


     
    vegasdennis
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    Posted: Mar. 4, 2010 - 10:37 PM ET #55

    Quote Originally Posted by madshooter72:

    Ok, this is the last straw for me with bookmaker. 

    Take a read of this chat i just had

     

    Please wait for a site operator to respond.

    You are now chatting with 'CS - '

    CS - : Welcome, nice to have you with us today . . . I’m happy to assist you . . .

    you: can you please ask the linesman when they plan on fixing the to win on Carl Edwards. He is showing +500 and it should be +1500. I asked about this 2 hours ago. they have adjusted other lines since then. So somebody please explain what the issue is

    CS - : I was the one you talk to and the line manager says that the line is ok as it is

    you: Are you serious, every other book out there has it at +1500, and you guys are pricing it at +500. Is that what you are telling me

    you: Please go ask him again, cause I really don't think you would be shortchanging the line by 3x what everyone else has out there

    CS - : One moment please, I will be with you shortly.

    you: You should have him talk to me

    CS - : I just ask and he said that the line is ok, if you like you can call him at this number 1-866-946-2747.

    you: 5 dimes is +1500, the greek is +1400, bodog is +1400

    you: what is his name, i would like to call him, cause he must be smoking crack to put a line out there like that

    CS - : We are not other books, we have our own lines

    you: Well, if you put a sad ass line like that out there, you should be embarassed to even be a book

    you: that is 3 times less than every other book out there

    you: very sad indeed

    CS - : Sorry for that

    CS - : Is there anything else I can assist you with?

    you: yes, what is the guys name I need to talk too

    you: If you are going to put junk lines out there on a sport that you don't feel good about, than you shouldn't even put lines out there for it

    CS - : You can ask for the props line manager Sebastian

    you: thank you jaydra, not your fault, just can't believe what I just read, thats all




    damn
    Reply
    Quote Originally Posted by madshooter72:

    Ok, this is the last straw for me with bookmaker. 

    Take a read of this chat i just had

     

    Please wait for a site operator to respond.

    You are now chatting with 'CS - '

    CS - : Welcome, nice to have you with us today . . . I’m happy to assist you . . .

    you: can you please ask the linesman when they plan on fixing the to win on Carl Edwards. He is showing +500 and it should be +1500. I asked about this 2 hours ago. they have adjusted other lines since then. So somebody please explain what the issue is

    CS - : I was the one you talk to and the line manager says that the line is ok as it is

    you: Are you serious, every other book out there has it at +1500, and you guys are pricing it at +500. Is that what you are telling me

    you: Please go ask him again, cause I really don't think you would be shortchanging the line by 3x what everyone else has out there

    CS - : One moment please, I will be with you shortly.

    you: You should have him talk to me

    CS - : I just ask and he said that the line is ok, if you like you can call him at this number 1-866-946-2747.

    you: 5 dimes is +1500, the greek is +1400, bodog is +1400

    you: what is his name, i would like to call him, cause he must be smoking crack to put a line out there like that

    CS - : We are not other books, we have our own lines

    you: Well, if you put a sad ass line like that out there, you should be embarassed to even be a book

    you: that is 3 times less than every other book out there

    you: very sad indeed

    CS - : Sorry for that

    CS - : Is there anything else I can assist you with?

    you: yes, what is the guys name I need to talk too

    you: If you are going to put junk lines out there on a sport that you don't feel good about, than you shouldn't even put lines out there for it

    CS - : You can ask for the props line manager Sebastian

    you: thank you jaydra, not your fault, just can't believe what I just read, thats all




    damn
     
    redwally
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    Posted: Mar. 4, 2010 - 11:52 PM ET #56

    I'm liking Smoke at Atlanta...
    Reply
    I'm liking Smoke at Atlanta...
     
    stats1
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    Posted: Mar. 5, 2010 - 12:23 AM ET #57

    Quote Originally Posted by madshooter72:

    Ok, this is the last straw for me with bookmaker. 

    Take a read of this chat i just had

     

    Please wait for a site operator to respond.

    You are now chatting with 'CS - '

    CS - : Welcome, nice to have you with us today . . . I’m happy to assist you . . .

    you: can you please ask the linesman when they plan on fixing the to win on Carl Edwards. He is showing +500 and it should be +1500. I asked about this 2 hours ago. they have adjusted other lines since then. So somebody please explain what the issue is

    CS - : I was the one you talk to and the line manager says that the line is ok as it is

    you: Are you serious, every other book out there has it at +1500, and you guys are pricing it at +500. Is that what you are telling me

    you: Please go ask him again, cause I really don't think you would be shortchanging the line by 3x what everyone else has out there

    CS - : One moment please, I will be with you shortly.

    you: You should have him talk to me

    CS - : I just ask and he said that the line is ok, if you like you can call him at this number 1-866-946-2747.

    you: 5 dimes is +1500, the greek is +1400, bodog is +1400

    you: what is his name, i would like to call him, cause he must be smoking crack to put a line out there like that

    CS - : We are not other books, we have our own lines

    you: Well, if you put a sad ass line like that out there, you should be embarassed to even be a book

    you: that is 3 times less than every other book out there

    you: very sad indeed

    CS - : Sorry for that

    CS - : Is there anything else I can assist you with?

    you: yes, what is the guys name I need to talk too

    you: If you are going to put junk lines out there on a sport that you don't feel good about, than you shouldn't even put lines out there for it

    CS - : You can ask for the props line manager Sebastian

    you: thank you jaydra, not your fault, just can't believe what I just read, thats all

      whats bullshit is if they had put him at +2500  and u played it for a 100 and won  on sun. they would have sent u a VERY NICE POLITE EMAIL telling u some1 in there lines department made a mistake sorry for the  wrong line being posted!!!    fuck bookmaker
    Reply
    Quote Originally Posted by madshooter72:

    Ok, this is the last straw for me with bookmaker. 

    Take a read of this chat i just had

     

    Please wait for a site operator to respond.

    You are now chatting with 'CS - '

    CS - : Welcome, nice to have you with us today . . . I’m happy to assist you . . .

    you: can you please ask the linesman when they plan on fixing the to win on Carl Edwards. He is showing +500 and it should be +1500. I asked about this 2 hours ago. they have adjusted other lines since then. So somebody please explain what the issue is

    CS - : I was the one you talk to and the line manager says that the line is ok as it is

    you: Are you serious, every other book out there has it at +1500, and you guys are pricing it at +500. Is that what you are telling me

    you: Please go ask him again, cause I really don't think you would be shortchanging the line by 3x what everyone else has out there

    CS - : One moment please, I will be with you shortly.

    you: You should have him talk to me

    CS - : I just ask and he said that the line is ok, if you like you can call him at this number 1-866-946-2747.

    you: 5 dimes is +1500, the greek is +1400, bodog is +1400

    you: what is his name, i would like to call him, cause he must be smoking crack to put a line out there like that

    CS - : We are not other books, we have our own lines

    you: Well, if you put a sad ass line like that out there, you should be embarassed to even be a book

    you: that is 3 times less than every other book out there

    you: very sad indeed

    CS - : Sorry for that

    CS - : Is there anything else I can assist you with?

    you: yes, what is the guys name I need to talk too

    you: If you are going to put junk lines out there on a sport that you don't feel good about, than you shouldn't even put lines out there for it

    CS - : You can ask for the props line manager Sebastian

    you: thank you jaydra, not your fault, just can't believe what I just read, thats all

      whats bullshit is if they had put him at +2500  and u played it for a 100 and won  on sun. they would have sent u a VERY NICE POLITE EMAIL telling u some1 in there lines department made a mistake sorry for the  wrong line being posted!!!    fuck bookmaker
     
    Looselugs
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    Posted: Mar. 5, 2010 - 8:11 AM ET #58

    pretty bad you take the time to let them know not once, but twice that they have a line mistake .and they say its correct!
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    pretty bad you take the time to let them know not once, but twice that they have a line mistake .and they say its correct!
     
    madshooter72
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    Posted: Mar. 5, 2010 - 8:14 AM ET #59

    stats,

    I know they throw bullshit lines out there, i swear they come into here and see who we like (this week everyone mentioned Edwards) so then they put out some shit line so if he does come in, they don't take a beating. Its just wrong, especially when you have C and D grade books putting out  better lines, and Bookmaker is supposed to be an A or B book, but to flat out admit what they are doing, I say F them, they are an F grade book as far as I am concerned.

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    stats,

    I know they throw bullshit lines out there, i swear they come into here and see who we like (this week everyone mentioned Edwards) so then they put out some shit line so if he does come in, they don't take a beating. Its just wrong, especially when you have C and D grade books putting out  better lines, and Bookmaker is supposed to be an A or B book, but to flat out admit what they are doing, I say F them, they are an F grade book as far as I am concerned.

     
    madshooter72
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    Posted: Mar. 5, 2010 - 8:30 AM ET #60

    Heres my feedback/comment I sent them, if I get a response (which I doubt) I will let everyone know.

     

    I think that your props line manager Sebastian needs to get his head examined. How in the world do you put a line of +500 on Carl Edwards to win the Atlanta nascar race when every other book in the world has it at +1400 or +1500. Please someone with any experince here at bookmaker, explain this to me. Why is it that you constantly shade your lines every week when it comes to nascar? Why do you wait till 3 days after everyone else has had their lines up to post lines?  If you don't feel comfortable offering the lines, or need someone who actually knows how to set a proper line let me know, I am pretty sure I have  more knowledge when it comes to that sport than old Sebastian does. You guys should be embarrased to put some of these lines out that you do, you consider yourself an A Book, but by putting junk lines out there like that , which are 3 times worse than every other book in the world, I think they should change your rating to an D. I look forward to your response, but won't hold my breath, as you will most likely delete this comment. I certainly hope you fix this problem or not even offer nascar events through your site anymore if you can't handle it.

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    Heres my feedback/comment I sent them, if I get a response (which I doubt) I will let everyone know.

     

    I think that your props line manager Sebastian needs to get his head examined. How in the world do you put a line of +500 on Carl Edwards to win the Atlanta nascar race when every other book in the world has it at +1400 or +1500. Please someone with any experince here at bookmaker, explain this to me. Why is it that you constantly shade your lines every week when it comes to nascar? Why do you wait till 3 days after everyone else has had their lines up to post lines?  If you don't feel comfortable offering the lines, or need someone who actually knows how to set a proper line let me know, I am pretty sure I have  more knowledge when it comes to that sport than old Sebastian does. You guys should be embarrased to put some of these lines out that you do, you consider yourself an A Book, but by putting junk lines out there like that , which are 3 times worse than every other book in the world, I think they should change your rating to an D. I look forward to your response, but won't hold my breath, as you will most likely delete this comment. I certainly hope you fix this problem or not even offer nascar events through your site anymore if you can't handle it.

     
    yourpixelarmy
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    Posted: Mar. 5, 2010 - 4:17 PM ET #61

    That's ridiculous about bookmaker. I saw that line and just started laughing to myself. I think this might be my last week using bookmaker.

    My early plays (from yesterday)
    Martin +800 (3 units)
    Ku Busch +1400 (1 unit)
    Johnson +500 (1 unit)

    I'm thinking of going heavier on Martin. He unloaded off the truck fastest just like I thought he would.
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    That's ridiculous about bookmaker. I saw that line and just started laughing to myself. I think this might be my last week using bookmaker.

    My early plays (from yesterday)
    Martin +800 (3 units)
    Ku Busch +1400 (1 unit)
    Johnson +500 (1 unit)

    I'm thinking of going heavier on Martin. He unloaded off the truck fastest just like I thought he would.
     
    Mark_The_Narc
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    Posted: Mar. 5, 2010 - 4:49 PM ET #62

    MS- What a crock you went through with bookmaker. Truth be told, I think the books have taken it on the chin with JJ winning the last two weeks and are grasping for some air right now.

    If anything, they should have thrown a few bucks your way for pointing out their bad line.

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    MS- What a crock you went through with bookmaker. Truth be told, I think the books have taken it on the chin with JJ winning the last two weeks and are grasping for some air right now.

    If anything, they should have thrown a few bucks your way for pointing out their bad line.

     
    TREE88
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    Posted: Mar. 5, 2010 - 5:38 PM ET #63

    git em shooter!

    git their asses!!!!

     

     

    I don't even use them but you can damn sure bet that I won't start anytime soon with Bullshit like that.

    That is unreal.

     

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    git em shooter!

    git their asses!!!!

     

     

    I don't even use them but you can damn sure bet that I won't start anytime soon with Bullshit like that.

    That is unreal.

     

     
    madshooter72
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    Posted: Mar. 5, 2010 - 5:41 PM ET #64

    Quote Originally Posted by Mark_The_Narc:

    MS- What a crock you went through with bookmaker. Truth be told, I think the books have taken it on the chin with JJ winning the last two weeks and are grasping for some air right now.

    If anything, they should have thrown a few bucks your way for pointing out their bad line.

    Mark,

    whats funny is when I told them about it, they said the line was correct....    I've noticed so far this season they have been just plain terrible on their lines

    example  last week

    dimes     Johnson to win +550       top 3    +160

    bkmaker   Johnson to win +300      top 3    -120

     

    I only really use bookmaker for top 5's and if I can get the lines early for the to wins....every now and than a matchup, but its pretty sad when they put junk out there like that. I still haven't recieved any response to my feedback email i sent them either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark_The_Narc:

    MS- What a crock you went through with bookmaker. Truth be told, I think the books have taken it on the chin with JJ winning the last two weeks and are grasping for some air right now.

    If anything, they should have thrown a few bucks your way for pointing out their bad line.

    Mark,

    whats funny is when I told them about it, they said the line was correct....    I've noticed so far this season they have been just plain terrible on their lines

    example  last week

    dimes     Johnson to win +550       top 3    +160

    bkmaker   Johnson to win +300      top 3    -120

     

    I only really use bookmaker for top 5's and if I can get the lines early for the to wins....every now and than a matchup, but its pretty sad when they put junk out there like that. I still haven't recieved any response to my feedback email i sent them either.

     
    themaceo
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    Posted: Mar. 5, 2010 - 6:53 PM ET #65

    That's crazy shooter I'll never use them

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    That's crazy shooter I'll never use them

     
    Looselugs
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    Posted: Mar. 5, 2010 - 7:09 PM ET #66

    Betus still has odds up to win..  Jr 30-1 worth a play.
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    Betus still has odds up to win..  Jr 30-1 worth a play.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 5, 2010 - 7:10 PM ET #67

    Quote Originally Posted by Looselugs:

    Betus still has odds up to win..  Jr 30-1 worth a play.


    I would he is gonna be strong in my opinion GL Lugs
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    Quote Originally Posted by Looselugs:

    Betus still has odds up to win..  Jr 30-1 worth a play.


    I would he is gonna be strong in my opinion GL Lugs
     
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    Posted: Mar. 5, 2010 - 10:38 PM ET #68

    Quote Originally Posted by clepto:

    Logano will make the chase. Wanted to bet it preseaon but couldn't find a line. Terrible odds on this race early at 5Dimes. I really believe Montoya is a factor but will wait for after qualifying to decide. My first 2 match plays of  this season will come in qualifying. I'm on...

    Jeff Gordon -125 v Kasey Kahne to win $100

    Juan Pablo Montoya -145 v Brian Vickers to win $100

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    Quote Originally Posted by clepto:

    Logano will make the chase. Wanted to bet it preseaon but couldn't find a line. Terrible odds on this race early at 5Dimes. I really believe Montoya is a factor but will wait for after qualifying to decide. My first 2 match plays of  this season will come in qualifying. I'm on...

    Jeff Gordon -125 v Kasey Kahne to win $100

    Juan Pablo Montoya -145 v Brian Vickers to win $100

     
    madshooter72
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    Posted: Mar. 5, 2010 - 11:02 PM ET #69

    nice hits clepto, nice start to the year for ya 
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    nice hits clepto, nice start to the year for ya 
     
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    Posted: Mar. 5, 2010 - 11:04 PM ET #70

    Jr to win down to 10-1 at greek  

     

    Harvick only up to 15-1 

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    Jr to win down to 10-1 at greek  

     

    Harvick only up to 15-1 

     
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    Posted: Mar. 5, 2010 - 11:32 PM ET #71

    Quote Originally Posted by Looselugs:

    Betus still has odds up to win..  Jr 30-1 worth a play.
       oh yeh throw $50  on him hes 10,11 -1  everywhere else    diff put something on him
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    Quote Originally Posted by Looselugs:

    Betus still has odds up to win..  Jr 30-1 worth a play.
       oh yeh throw $50  on him hes 10,11 -1  everywhere else    diff put something on him
     
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    Posted: Mar. 6, 2010 - 11:04 AM ET #72

    just a heads up Mike Skinner in the trucks will go to rear of the field . changed clutch.
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    just a heads up Mike Skinner in the trucks will go to rear of the field . changed clutch.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 6, 2010 - 3:50 PM ET #73

    it looks like it's the #48,s to lose again.  he blistered a lap in practice, said car felt comfortable, chad said it was real fast.  never got after it again.  they never show their stuff. I think the #5 can challenge maybe
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    it looks like it's the #48,s to lose again.  he blistered a lap in practice, said car felt comfortable, chad said it was real fast.  never got after it again.  they never show their stuff. I think the #5 can challenge maybe
     
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    Posted: Mar. 6, 2010 - 5:57 PM ET #74

    those of us who are on Harvick already for tomm... He said his car is awesome on long runs, but isn't that good on short runs
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    those of us who are on Harvick already for tomm... He said his car is awesome on long runs, but isn't that good on short runs
     
     
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    Posted: Mar. 6, 2010 - 5:58 PM ET #75

    Oh and how bout this shit,

     

    bookmaker already has their odds to win, top 3's & top 5's up

    Amazing

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    Oh and how bout this shit,

     

    bookmaker already has their odds to win, top 3's & top 5's up

    Amazing

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