Yes...no salary cap is unfair. I never said it was fair. I say what the Yankees doing is fair under the rules. Yes...if there was a salary cap it would give lower market teams more of a chance. The Yankees wouldn't be able to sign ALL the stars but they would still get a majority of them. But that goes back to the whole thing thorpe and I were saying. Players would want to go to New York to play for the Yankees. Mainly for the money...but for the big stage. Lets say baseball was just starting off and the highest ranked prospect could go anywhere he wanted. The 2 highest offers were the Yankees and Royals with the same offer. No offense to Kansas City...but New York has more to offer. Same thing with Los Angeles. Lets also use a basketball situation here. I heard over the weekend that James would love to play with Wade on an NBA team. Say Pujols and A-Rod would want to play on the same team...both becoming free agents. If you put those 2 on a team...the team would be 100% better. BUT...if they both were offered the same contract in NY or Tampa...where would they rather play? We saw when the Rays went to the World Series...the fans didn't show up all season like they should have. Then the front runners came out come playoff time (where a lot of the fans in the ALCS were cheering for the Sox). I'm starting to be like you and forget where I'm going with this...happens a lot. I believe they would rather go play for NY because the fans are better. And as we've seen in Pittsburgh...the fans don't really care about baseball. It's football country up there. And I assume they gave up on the GM and Owner after letting their best players go over the last few years. But like I was saying...sure the Yankees couldn't outbid everyone...but if it were more even...they'd get a majority of the top players anyway...as well as other big markets. Sure that's just an opinion and I could be totally wrong...but we'll never really know for sure.
And don't think it's over for the Royals. Everyone can come out of nowhere and play in a World Series.
Nice thoughts, Sparky. Regarding the salary cap, you're probably right that more folks would like to play in the bigger cities, but I don't believe that everyone would. All of the top talent in the NBA and NFL certainly don't reside in New York and California. And, in the cases of Peyton Manning and LeBron James you could argue that the potential for endorsement dollars and broad exposure exists in any market in the country if you have the talent and personality to go along with it. It would be interesting but I don't think free agents would just ignore the heartland or the mountain west if salaries and competitive balance were more evenly distributed. Like you said though, I'm afraid we'll never know the answer in baseball.
The highlighted portion is really the main point of argument for most of us "disenfranchised" fans......of course we could "come out of nowhere".......but that is what we are left with, basically hoping for a shot in the dark every quarter century or so....
As for you being a Yankee fan, you certainly don't need to apologize for enjoying your team and their success during the season. They are playing within the rules baseball set-up and that's just the way it is. For the most part the Yankees teams of the last 15 years or so have been pretty likeable in my opinion. As a fan you should absolutely enjoy the season and post-season. I just think baseball is on a very poor path for the long-term health of the game......of course, I could be wrong.
Here's my prediction for the 2017 season
Yankees have a $436 payroll...highest in the majors by $103 million and will qualify for the playoffs for the 16th time in 17 years this century.
Kansas City will have the largest payroll in franchise history of $187 million and have nice talent at the lower levels of the minor leagues...although they haven't qualified for the post-season since the 1980's they should be very competitive in two or three years!
Looking forward to the season
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Quote Originally Posted by Sparky10191:
Yes...no salary cap is unfair. I never said it was fair. I say what the Yankees doing is fair under the rules. Yes...if there was a salary cap it would give lower market teams more of a chance. The Yankees wouldn't be able to sign ALL the stars but they would still get a majority of them. But that goes back to the whole thing thorpe and I were saying. Players would want to go to New York to play for the Yankees. Mainly for the money...but for the big stage. Lets say baseball was just starting off and the highest ranked prospect could go anywhere he wanted. The 2 highest offers were the Yankees and Royals with the same offer. No offense to Kansas City...but New York has more to offer. Same thing with Los Angeles. Lets also use a basketball situation here. I heard over the weekend that James would love to play with Wade on an NBA team. Say Pujols and A-Rod would want to play on the same team...both becoming free agents. If you put those 2 on a team...the team would be 100% better. BUT...if they both were offered the same contract in NY or Tampa...where would they rather play? We saw when the Rays went to the World Series...the fans didn't show up all season like they should have. Then the front runners came out come playoff time (where a lot of the fans in the ALCS were cheering for the Sox). I'm starting to be like you and forget where I'm going with this...happens a lot. I believe they would rather go play for NY because the fans are better. And as we've seen in Pittsburgh...the fans don't really care about baseball. It's football country up there. And I assume they gave up on the GM and Owner after letting their best players go over the last few years. But like I was saying...sure the Yankees couldn't outbid everyone...but if it were more even...they'd get a majority of the top players anyway...as well as other big markets. Sure that's just an opinion and I could be totally wrong...but we'll never really know for sure.
And don't think it's over for the Royals. Everyone can come out of nowhere and play in a World Series.
Nice thoughts, Sparky. Regarding the salary cap, you're probably right that more folks would like to play in the bigger cities, but I don't believe that everyone would. All of the top talent in the NBA and NFL certainly don't reside in New York and California. And, in the cases of Peyton Manning and LeBron James you could argue that the potential for endorsement dollars and broad exposure exists in any market in the country if you have the talent and personality to go along with it. It would be interesting but I don't think free agents would just ignore the heartland or the mountain west if salaries and competitive balance were more evenly distributed. Like you said though, I'm afraid we'll never know the answer in baseball.
The highlighted portion is really the main point of argument for most of us "disenfranchised" fans......of course we could "come out of nowhere".......but that is what we are left with, basically hoping for a shot in the dark every quarter century or so....
As for you being a Yankee fan, you certainly don't need to apologize for enjoying your team and their success during the season. They are playing within the rules baseball set-up and that's just the way it is. For the most part the Yankees teams of the last 15 years or so have been pretty likeable in my opinion. As a fan you should absolutely enjoy the season and post-season. I just think baseball is on a very poor path for the long-term health of the game......of course, I could be wrong.
Here's my prediction for the 2017 season
Yankees have a $436 payroll...highest in the majors by $103 million and will qualify for the playoffs for the 16th time in 17 years this century.
Kansas City will have the largest payroll in franchise history of $187 million and have nice talent at the lower levels of the minor leagues...although they haven't qualified for the post-season since the 1980's they should be very competitive in two or three years!
Yankees have a $436 MILLION payroll...highest in the majors by $103 million and will qualify for the playoffs for the 16th time in 17 years this century.
The million I left out in the original post is kind of a key word
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Quote Originally Posted by mmac66:
Here's my prediction for the 2017 season
Yankees have a $436 MILLION payroll...highest in the majors by $103 million and will qualify for the playoffs for the 16th time in 17 years this century.
The million I left out in the original post is kind of a key word
Nice thoughts, Sparky. Regarding the salary cap, you're probably right that more folks would like to play in the bigger cities, but I don't believe that everyone would. All of the top talent in the NBA and NFL certainly don't reside in New York and California. And, in the cases of Peyton Manning and LeBron James you could argue that the potential for endorsement dollars and broad exposure exists in any market in the country if you have the talent and personality to go along with it. It would be interesting but I don't think free agents would just ignore the heartland or the mountain west if salaries and competitive balance were more evenly distributed. Like you said though, I'm afraid we'll never know the answer in baseball.
The highlighted portion is really the main point of argument for most of us "disenfranchised" fans......of course we could "come out of nowhere".......but that is what we are left with, basically hoping for a shot in the dark every quarter century or so....
As for you being a Yankee fan, you certainly don't need to apologize for enjoying your team and their success during the season. They are playing within the rules baseball set-up and that's just the way it is. For the most part the Yankees teams of the last 15 years or so have been pretty likeable in my opinion. As a fan you should absolutely enjoy the season and post-season. I just think baseball is on a very poor path for the long-term health of the game......of course, I could be wrong.
Here's my prediction for the 2017 season
Yankees have a $436 payroll...highest in the majors by $103 million and will qualify for the playoffs for the 16th time in 17 years this century.
Kansas City will have the largest payroll in franchise history of $187 million and have nice talent at the lower levels of the minor leagues...although they haven't qualified for the post-season since the 1980's they should be very competitive in two or three years!
Looking forward to the season
Very good point on the highlighted part. However...what is the most talked about team in all of sports (for the most part)? The Yankees. Whether it's hate talk or praise talk...people talk about them.
Now NBA has a D-League...NFL doesn't have any minor league system...but Baseball has 5-6 teams and how many rounds of drafting? More stars are born each year...not all will choose to settle.
And look at the Rays. They kinda dipped out of the race in the earlier parts of September last year. 2 years after losing 100 games and 1 year after going tot he World Series. But that 1 season can turn a franchise around. The Tigers were in the same boat. They made that run to the World Series...lost...went down a bit...and are now still talked about for the playoffs. Hell...1 game away from it last season.
And that's not a fair prediction. They did have a budget going into the 2010 season and they stuck to that. Now sure they did that so they can go big next offseason...but they can be suttle too.
And I've had the Royals to have a better season than last season since 2006. How have I done? 3-1. They won 6 more games in 06 than 06. 7 more games in 07 to 06. 6 more games in 08 than 07. And then they dipped 10 games last season but injuries had a big part to do with that. I'll take them over 65 wins this season. Not sold on their over 74.5 which is their win total on The Greek but that's because I like the Twins, Chi.Sox and Tigers to duke it out.
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Quote Originally Posted by mmac66:
Nice thoughts, Sparky. Regarding the salary cap, you're probably right that more folks would like to play in the bigger cities, but I don't believe that everyone would. All of the top talent in the NBA and NFL certainly don't reside in New York and California. And, in the cases of Peyton Manning and LeBron James you could argue that the potential for endorsement dollars and broad exposure exists in any market in the country if you have the talent and personality to go along with it. It would be interesting but I don't think free agents would just ignore the heartland or the mountain west if salaries and competitive balance were more evenly distributed. Like you said though, I'm afraid we'll never know the answer in baseball.
The highlighted portion is really the main point of argument for most of us "disenfranchised" fans......of course we could "come out of nowhere".......but that is what we are left with, basically hoping for a shot in the dark every quarter century or so....
As for you being a Yankee fan, you certainly don't need to apologize for enjoying your team and their success during the season. They are playing within the rules baseball set-up and that's just the way it is. For the most part the Yankees teams of the last 15 years or so have been pretty likeable in my opinion. As a fan you should absolutely enjoy the season and post-season. I just think baseball is on a very poor path for the long-term health of the game......of course, I could be wrong.
Here's my prediction for the 2017 season
Yankees have a $436 payroll...highest in the majors by $103 million and will qualify for the playoffs for the 16th time in 17 years this century.
Kansas City will have the largest payroll in franchise history of $187 million and have nice talent at the lower levels of the minor leagues...although they haven't qualified for the post-season since the 1980's they should be very competitive in two or three years!
Looking forward to the season
Very good point on the highlighted part. However...what is the most talked about team in all of sports (for the most part)? The Yankees. Whether it's hate talk or praise talk...people talk about them.
Now NBA has a D-League...NFL doesn't have any minor league system...but Baseball has 5-6 teams and how many rounds of drafting? More stars are born each year...not all will choose to settle.
And look at the Rays. They kinda dipped out of the race in the earlier parts of September last year. 2 years after losing 100 games and 1 year after going tot he World Series. But that 1 season can turn a franchise around. The Tigers were in the same boat. They made that run to the World Series...lost...went down a bit...and are now still talked about for the playoffs. Hell...1 game away from it last season.
And that's not a fair prediction. They did have a budget going into the 2010 season and they stuck to that. Now sure they did that so they can go big next offseason...but they can be suttle too.
And I've had the Royals to have a better season than last season since 2006. How have I done? 3-1. They won 6 more games in 06 than 06. 7 more games in 07 to 06. 6 more games in 08 than 07. And then they dipped 10 games last season but injuries had a big part to do with that. I'll take them over 65 wins this season. Not sold on their over 74.5 which is their win total on The Greek but that's because I like the Twins, Chi.Sox and Tigers to duke it out.
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