• Forums
  • Best Betting Sites
  • Sportsbook Promos
  • Best Sports Betting Apps
  • NFL Betting Forum
  • NBA Betting Forum
  • MLB Betting Forum
  • NHL Betting Forum
  • NCAAF Betting Forum
  • NCAAB Betting Forum
  • Soccer Betting Forum
  • Tennis Betting Forum
  • General Discussion
  • Help Forum
  • Guidelines
  • FAQ
  • Forum Updates
    Covers Logo
    Covers App
    Faster picks. Smarter bets.
    All in the NEW Covers App
    Download on the App Store Download on the Google Play Store
    • Sports
      • NFL
        • Back
        • NFL
        • NFL Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • Prop Projections
        • NFL Picks
        • Weather
        • Injuries
      • NCAAF
        • Back
        • NCAAF
        • NCAAF Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • Prop Projections
        • NCAAF Picks
        • Weather
        • Injuries
      • NBA
        • Back
        • NBA
        • NBA Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • Prop Projections
        • NBA Picks
        • Injuries
      • NCAAB
        • Back
        • NCAAB
        • NCAAB Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • NCAAB Picks
        • Injuries
      • MLB
        • Back
        • MLB
        • MLB Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • Prop Projections
        • MLB Picks
        • Weather
        • Injuries
      • NHL
        • Back
        • NHL
        • NHL Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • Prop Projections
        • NHL Picks
        • Injuries
      • Soccer
      • UFC
      • WNBA
        • Back
        • WNBA
        • WNBA Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • WNBA Picks
        • Injuries
      • CFL
        • Back
        • CFL
        • CFL Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • CFL Picks
      • Golf
        • Back
        • Golf
        • Golf Home
        • Golf Odds
        • Masters Odds
        • PGA Championship Odds
        • US Open Odds
        • British Open Odds
        • Ryder Cup Odds
        • Golf Picks
    • Odds
      • All Odds
      • NFL
      • NCAAF
      • NBA
      • NCAAB
      • MLB
      • NHL
      • Golf
      • Soccer Odds
        • Back
        • Soccer Odds
        • MLS Odds
        • Champions League Odds
        • Premier League Odds
      • UFC
      • WNBA
      • CFL
      • Election Odds
      • Futures
        • Back
        • Futures
        • NFL
        • NBA
        • MLB
        • NHL
        • NCAAB
        • NCAAF
      • Sports Odds History
    • Picks
      • All Picks
      • NFL
      • NBA
      • NHL
      • MLB
      • NCAAF
      • NCAAB
      • Golf
      • WNBA
      • CFL
      • User Picks
      • Team User Picks
      • Consensus Picks
        • Back
        • Consensus Picks
        • All Consensus Picks
        • NFL
        • NBA
        • NHL
        • MLB
        • NCAAF
        • NCAAB
        • CFL
        • WNBA
        • Consensus FAQ
        • Public Money
    • Prop Projections
      • NFL
      • NBA
      • MLB
      • NHL
    • Betting
      • US Betting Sites
      • Canada Betting Sites
      • Sportsbook Reviews
      • States
        • Back
        • States
        • US Legal Tracker
        • Revenue Tracker
        • Arizona
        • Arkansas
        • California
        • Colorado
        • Connecticut
        • DC
        • Florida
        • Georgia
        • Illinois
        • Indiana
        • Iowa
        • Kansas
        • Kentucky
        • Louisiana
        • Maine
        • Maryland
        • Massachusetts
        • Michigan
        • Mississippi
        • Missouri
        • Nevada
        • New Hampshire
        • New Jersey
        • New York
        • North Carolina
        • Ohio
        • Oregon
        • Pennsylvania
        • Tennessee
        • Texas
        • Vermont
        • Virginia
        • West Virginia
        • Wyoming
      • Provinces
        • Back
        • Provinces
        • Alberta
        • British Columbia
        • Manitoba
        • New Brunswick
        • Newfoundland and Labrador
        • Northwest Territories
        • Nova Scotia
        • Nunavut
        • Ontario
        • Prince Edward Island
        • Quebec (English)
        • Quebec (francais)
        • Saskatchewan
        • Yukon
      • By Sport
        • Back
        • By Sport
        • Baseball
        • Basketball
        • Boxing
        • College Football
        • F1
        • Football
        • Super Bowl
        • Golf
        • Hockey
        • Horse Racing
        • March Madness
        • Soccer
        • UFC
        • World Cup
      • Betting Apps
        • Back
        • Betting Apps
        • Best Sports Betting Apps USA
        • Ontario Sports Betting Apps
      • Rest of World
        • Back
        • Rest of World
        • UK Betting Offers
          • Back
          • UK Betting Offers
          • UK Betting Sites
          • bet365 Bonus Code UK
          • 888Sport Promo Code UK
          • William Hill Sign up Offer
          • Betway Sign up Offer
          • BetVictor Bonus Code UK
      • Betting Guides
        • Back
        • Betting Guides
        • All Guides
        • Glossary
        • Betting Calculators
          • Back
          • Betting Calculators
          • Odds Converter
          • Parlay Calculator
        • Futures Betting Guide
        • Moneyline Betting Guide
        • Over/Under Betting Guide
        • Parlay Betting Guide
        • Point Spread Betting Guide
        • Prop Betting Guide
        • Sports Betting Guides
          • Back
          • Sports Betting Guides
          • How To Bet On Sports Guide
          • NFL Betting Guide
          • NHL Betting Guide
          • NBA Betting Guide
          • MLB Betting Guide
          • NCAAB Betting Guide
          • NCAAF Betting Guide
          • Golf Betting Guide
          • Tennis Betting Guide
        • Teaser Betting Guide
      • Betting News
        • Back
        • Betting News
        • All News
        • Industry News
        • Podcasts
        • Covers Videos
        • Covers Writers
        • Offers & Boosts
    • Promos
      • Sportsbook Promos
      • Canada Sportsbook Promos
      • Bonuses By Sportsbook
        • Back
        • Bonuses By Sportsbook
        • bet365 Bonus Code
        • BET99 Promo Code
        • BetMGM Bonus Code
        • BetRivers Bonus Code
        • Caesars Sportsbook Promo
        • DraftKings Promo Code
        • Fanatics Sportsbook Promo
        • FanDuel Promo Code
        • Hard Rock Bet Promo Code
        • Sports Interaction Promo
        • Stake Promo Code
        • theScore Bet Promo Code
        • TonyBet Promo Code
      • Bonuses By Region
        • Back
        • Bonuses By Region
        • Arkansas Promos
        • Arizona Promos
        • Colorado Promos
        • Connecticut Promos
        • DC Promos
        • Illinois Promos
        • Indiana Promos
        • Iowa Promos
        • Kansas Promos
        • Kentucky Promos
        • Louisiana Promos
        • Maine Promos
        • Maryland Promos
        • Massachusetts Promos
        • Michigan Promos
        • Missouri Promos
        • New Jersey Promos
        • New York Promos
        • North Carolina Promos
        • Ohio Promos
        • Pennsylvania Promos
        • Tennessee Promos
        • Vermont Promos
        • Virginia Promos
        • West Virginia Promos
        • Wyoming Promos
    • Forum & Contests
      • All Forums
      • NFL Betting Forum
      • MLB Betting Forum
      • NCAAB Betting Forum
      • NCAAF Betting Forum
      • NBA Betting Forum
      • NHL Betting Forum
      • Soccer Betting Forum
      • Contests
        • Back
        • Contests
        • Contests Home
        • Streak Survivor
        • King of Covers
        • My Contests
    • Casino
      • Sweepstakes Casino
        • Back
        • Sweepstakes Casino
        • Sweepstakes Casino
        • Sweepstakes No-Deposit Bonuses
        • Sweepstakes Promos
          • Back
          • Sweepstakes Promos
          • Card Crush
          • Casino.click
          • Chanced Casino
          • Crown Coins Casino
          • FreeSpin Casino
          • LoneStar
          • McLuck
          • Mega Bonanza Casino
          • PlayFame
          • Pulsz
          • Stake.us
      • US Casinos
        • Back
        • US Casinos
        • US Online Casinos
        • US Online Casino Bonuses
        • Casino Promos
          • Back
          • Casino Promos
          • bet365 Casino Promo Code
          • BetRivers Casino Promo
          • Borgata Casino Bonus Code
          • Caesars Casino Bonus Code
          • DraftKings Casino Promo
          • Fanatics Casino Promo
          • FanDuel Casino Promo Code
          • Golden Nugget Casino Promo
          • Hard Rock Bet Casino Promo
          • Hollywood Casino Promo Code
      • Canada Casinos
        • Back
        • Canada Casinos
        • Canada Online Casinos
        • Provinces
          • Back
          • Provinces
          • Alberta Online Casino
          • BC Online Casino
          • Ontario Online Casinos
        • Casino Promos
          • Back
          • Casino Promos
          • BC.GAME Bonus Code
          • Cloudbet Promo Code
          • RainBet Promo Code
          • Roobet Promo Code
          • Shuffle Promo Code
          • Thrill Promo Code
    • Prediction Markets
      • Prediction Markets
      • Prediction Market Apps
      • Prediction Market Promos
      • Kalshi Promo Code
      • Polymarket Promo Code
      • DraftKings Predictions Promo Code
      • Novig Promo Code
      • ProphetX Promo Code
      • Underdog Promo Code
      • OG Promo Code
      • Fanatics Markets Promo Code
      • Plus500 Promo Code
    • NFL Week 1
      NFL Week 1
      • NFL Picks
      • NFL Odds
      • NFL Prediction Markets
      • NFL Betting Sites
    Covers Account
    Log in Create account
    Join free Log in
    All Forums | MLB Betting Forum

    Effective System

    12345 Next Last»
    joeyd88
    Paidonjok
    air23blc
    ekrres
    Trader4
    ...
    Participants:
    Search model icon
    Views: 25174
    Posts: 106
    12345 Next Last»
     
    joeyd88
    joeyd88
    Prospect
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Dec, 2005
    Posts: 152
    Posted: Apr. 27, 2012 - 11:58 AM ET #1

    Thanks to my vigilent use of Covers.com i came to learn about a MLB underdog system that has an excellent track record and is worth paying attention to, or at least tracking for yourself.  I only learned about it last year and was only able to track it for the first 2.5 months of the season but it was up 40 units in that time and its pretty simple but requires daily involvement.  Im not taking credit for this at all but I thought more of us should know about it, because its not like the books can adjust for a large amount of people betting this way.  Here is the criteria:

    Only bet underdogs -  this is a very basic strategy, the worst MLB teams win 40% of game and the best win 60% (100 wins) so underdogs have alot of VALUE.  Going 1 for 2 with two underdogs never yields a net negative result.  Betting favorites is a guaranteed way to lose in the long run.

    On a daily basis:

    Eliminate all underdogs which are greater than +150 -- so sort all underdogs that are +100, +110, +120, +130, +140 and +150 and then cut them done based on the rest of the systems criteria....

    Eliminate any underdog on the 3 game losing streak or facing a team on a 3 game winning streak (or greater)

    THen eliminate any underdog remaining that is facing a Top 20 n-ERA pitcher based on Jeff Sagarin's USA Today ratings sheet found at the following link.  This is the top 20 in either the AL or the NL (there are separate lists).  So there are 40 starting pitchers on any given day which you never bet against (and they change daily so you have to check this link every day)

    https://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin.htm

    These 3 criteria usually give you about 4-7 games a day depending on the amount of games played.  When i tracked it, the system give you about 30% of all game played.

    Bet the remaining underdogs on an identical unit basis and you will be a winner. I am up 8 units currently betting 28 of the 137 games played, winning 15 (only 53.6% winning).

    Please note that the system gains momentum as the season goes on.  And although it has picked 40 games, gone 19 W's and 21 L's and yielded 1.1 units as of today....I eliminated 16 of those 40 games based on "untested underdog pitching starters" and saved myself 7 units in loses (since only 4 of those games won).  Sometimes the system will require your discretion and cant always be used blindly, but all in all the system gives you the best value picks for you to decide which ones to take.

    Happy Hunting, Lets get them books

     

    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User
    To remove first post, remove entire topic.

    Thanks to my vigilent use of Covers.com i came to learn about a MLB underdog system that has an excellent track record and is worth paying attention to, or at least tracking for yourself.  I only learned about it last year and was only able to track it for the first 2.5 months of the season but it was up 40 units in that time and its pretty simple but requires daily involvement.  Im not taking credit for this at all but I thought more of us should know about it, because its not like the books can adjust for a large amount of people betting this way.  Here is the criteria:

    Only bet underdogs -  this is a very basic strategy, the worst MLB teams win 40% of game and the best win 60% (100 wins) so underdogs have alot of VALUE.  Going 1 for 2 with two underdogs never yields a net negative result.  Betting favorites is a guaranteed way to lose in the long run.

    On a daily basis:

    Eliminate all underdogs which are greater than +150 -- so sort all underdogs that are +100, +110, +120, +130, +140 and +150 and then cut them done based on the rest of the systems criteria....

    Eliminate any underdog on the 3 game losing streak or facing a team on a 3 game winning streak (or greater)

    THen eliminate any underdog remaining that is facing a Top 20 n-ERA pitcher based on Jeff Sagarin's USA Today ratings sheet found at the following link.  This is the top 20 in either the AL or the NL (there are separate lists).  So there are 40 starting pitchers on any given day which you never bet against (and they change daily so you have to check this link every day)

    https://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin.htm

    These 3 criteria usually give you about 4-7 games a day depending on the amount of games played.  When i tracked it, the system give you about 30% of all game played.

    Bet the remaining underdogs on an identical unit basis and you will be a winner. I am up 8 units currently betting 28 of the 137 games played, winning 15 (only 53.6% winning).

    Please note that the system gains momentum as the season goes on.  And although it has picked 40 games, gone 19 W's and 21 L's and yielded 1.1 units as of today....I eliminated 16 of those 40 games based on "untested underdog pitching starters" and saved myself 7 units in loses (since only 4 of those games won).  Sometimes the system will require your discretion and cant always be used blindly, but all in all the system gives you the best value picks for you to decide which ones to take.

    Happy Hunting, Lets get them books

     

     
    Paidonjok
    Paidonjok
    Captain
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Apr, 2012
    Posts: 7986
    Posted: Apr. 27, 2012 - 12:08 PM ET #2

    Nice stuff! 
    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User
    Nice stuff! 
     
    joeyd88
    joeyd88
    Prospect
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Dec, 2005
    Posts: 152
    Posted: Apr. 27, 2012 - 12:10 PM ET #3

    For instance, today...

    ARI @ MIA --J.Saunders vs Zambrano -- Arizona +120

    HOU @ CIN - W.Rodriguez vs. M. Leake - HOU +130

    NYM @ COL - Schwinden vs. Pomeranz - NYM +150

    KC @ MIN - Teaford vs. Pavano - KC +110

     

    I eliminated the Mets on this card because Schwinden is unproven and doesnt even make it onto Jeff Sagarins rating sheet yet.  THis type of discretion has proven valuable so far. Saved 7 units

    If anyone wants to can send my excel sheets to view last years tracking or see how this year has gone so far.

    CHC vs PHI - eliminate because Cubs +240 and facing Halladay (Top 20 n-era pitcher according to Sagarin) on the road

    The same goes for PIT vs ATL - eliminate because Pit +160 and facing Tommy Hanson on the road

    Eliminate OAK vs BAL -- because Balt has won 4 in a row

     

    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User

    For instance, today...

    ARI @ MIA --J.Saunders vs Zambrano -- Arizona +120

    HOU @ CIN - W.Rodriguez vs. M. Leake - HOU +130

    NYM @ COL - Schwinden vs. Pomeranz - NYM +150

    KC @ MIN - Teaford vs. Pavano - KC +110

     

    I eliminated the Mets on this card because Schwinden is unproven and doesnt even make it onto Jeff Sagarins rating sheet yet.  THis type of discretion has proven valuable so far. Saved 7 units

    If anyone wants to can send my excel sheets to view last years tracking or see how this year has gone so far.

    CHC vs PHI - eliminate because Cubs +240 and facing Halladay (Top 20 n-era pitcher according to Sagarin) on the road

    The same goes for PIT vs ATL - eliminate because Pit +160 and facing Tommy Hanson on the road

    Eliminate OAK vs BAL -- because Balt has won 4 in a row

     

     
    air23blc
    air23blc
    Captain
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Feb, 2009
    Posts: 5156
    Posted: Apr. 27, 2012 - 12:17 PM ET #4

    Joey just sent you a friend request so that we can PM.
    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User
    Joey just sent you a friend request so that we can PM.
     
    joeyd88
    joeyd88
    Prospect
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Dec, 2005
    Posts: 152
    Posted: Apr. 27, 2012 - 12:19 PM ET #5

    Not to toot my own horn, but I am going to post on this thread from time to time, occasionally but not always with the days plays (because any one can figure out the plays)

    But also to make this thread move to the top of the discussion forum list.  I beleive in it so much that I think it is worthwhile to keep it relevant in the discussion forum so that the most amount of people can see it and read about it. It would be a waste if it was only viewed by the people who were on Covers during the few minutes this post stayed near the top of the list. 

    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User

    Not to toot my own horn, but I am going to post on this thread from time to time, occasionally but not always with the days plays (because any one can figure out the plays)

    But also to make this thread move to the top of the discussion forum list.  I beleive in it so much that I think it is worthwhile to keep it relevant in the discussion forum so that the most amount of people can see it and read about it. It would be a waste if it was only viewed by the people who were on Covers during the few minutes this post stayed near the top of the list. 

     
    joeyd88
    joeyd88
    Prospect
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Dec, 2005
    Posts: 152
    Posted: Apr. 27, 2012 - 12:22 PM ET #6

    Accepted it Air23blc, whats PM?

    Thanks for the interest.

    I also have an NFL system that is nasty if you cut the data the right way.  Ive shared it on good docs before. 

    Lets all collaborate... this site is too much of people just dropping dumb picks around and idiots following them.  It should be more knowledge sharing, not just prognostication.  Ive been on here for 10 years now

    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User

    Accepted it Air23blc, whats PM?

    Thanks for the interest.

    I also have an NFL system that is nasty if you cut the data the right way.  Ive shared it on good docs before. 

    Lets all collaborate... this site is too much of people just dropping dumb picks around and idiots following them.  It should be more knowledge sharing, not just prognostication.  Ive been on here for 10 years now

     
    ekrres
    ekrres
    Captain
    Participation Meter
    Joined: May, 2011
    Posts: 5536
    Posted: Apr. 27, 2012 - 12:22 PM ET #7

    ...
    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User
    ...
     
    Trader4
    Trader4
    Rookie
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Jul, 2003
    Posts: 777
    Posted: Apr. 27, 2012 - 12:27 PM ET #8

    Last year a friend of mine saw me winning at capping and wanted to start capping himself. Asked me if I had any systems. Last year I was using a line movement method to finalize my plays and making most of my plays right before game time so I threw him this same system you have posted. I had never used it but had found it on the web and thought it might be an easy one to get him started. Told him I had never used it but it appeared sound. He lost his ass May and June following these plays and gave up his desire to cap. Not saying that it does not or will not work eventually but my friend followed it to the letter for 2 months and got his brains beat out.
    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User
    Last year a friend of mine saw me winning at capping and wanted to start capping himself. Asked me if I had any systems. Last year I was using a line movement method to finalize my plays and making most of my plays right before game time so I threw him this same system you have posted. I had never used it but had found it on the web and thought it might be an easy one to get him started. Told him I had never used it but it appeared sound. He lost his ass May and June following these plays and gave up his desire to cap. Not saying that it does not or will not work eventually but my friend followed it to the letter for 2 months and got his brains beat out.
     
    kadinky
    kadinky
    Prospect
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Apr, 2012
    Posts: 155
    Posted: Apr. 27, 2012 - 12:28 PM ET #9

    im going for the ride just for fun put $71 on a three team parlay....

    houston

    kc

    arizona    $ 71 pays $652  also flat bet each for $100 lets get it

    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User

    im going for the ride just for fun put $71 on a three team parlay....

    houston

    kc

    arizona    $ 71 pays $652  also flat bet each for $100 lets get it

     
    joeyd88
    joeyd88
    Prospect
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Dec, 2005
    Posts: 152
    Posted: Apr. 27, 2012 - 12:38 PM ET #10

    its going to be a good ride Kadinky.

    Glad to hear you've hear about this Trader 4, it is a simple system to get started.  I also followed it to the letter and have the spread sheet to prove it was up 17 units in April (starting April 10th) and 21 units in may.  I can send it to you.  Im not just bullshitting. I did the system perfectly every single day and its a winner.

    Two things:  You have to be careful on the weekends vs. the weekdays.  There are many traps on the weekends because there is so much other action.  But traps usually apply to the books setting the favs much higher than they would during the week and therefore the dogs getting a better pay out than they would otherwise, but it doesnt always work that way.

    Second:  if you plan to track it, the system doesnt start until after each rotation has gone through 3 times.  Each starter has started 3 times for each team, about 15 games in or around April 18th this year.  This is because the Sagarin rating needs to have time to accumulate a decent sample size.

    I dont want to be doubted that this is a good system, so anyone who wants to see last years 2.5 month spread sheet or this years current tracking, please just request it.  It should be ample proof.

    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User

    its going to be a good ride Kadinky.

    Glad to hear you've hear about this Trader 4, it is a simple system to get started.  I also followed it to the letter and have the spread sheet to prove it was up 17 units in April (starting April 10th) and 21 units in may.  I can send it to you.  Im not just bullshitting. I did the system perfectly every single day and its a winner.

    Two things:  You have to be careful on the weekends vs. the weekdays.  There are many traps on the weekends because there is so much other action.  But traps usually apply to the books setting the favs much higher than they would during the week and therefore the dogs getting a better pay out than they would otherwise, but it doesnt always work that way.

    Second:  if you plan to track it, the system doesnt start until after each rotation has gone through 3 times.  Each starter has started 3 times for each team, about 15 games in or around April 18th this year.  This is because the Sagarin rating needs to have time to accumulate a decent sample size.

    I dont want to be doubted that this is a good system, so anyone who wants to see last years 2.5 month spread sheet or this years current tracking, please just request it.  It should be ample proof.

     
    Trader4
    Trader4
    Rookie
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Jul, 2003
    Posts: 777
    Posted: Apr. 27, 2012 - 1:15 PM ET #11

    Maybe it was June and July, not May and June. All I remember is him calling me with negative results and I felt bad for giving the system to him. I do remember him modifying the system a little, if he had a dog and BOTH pitchers were Sagarin top 20 he would use the dog and think it improved his results a little. I never tracked it myself Joey but if you did and it makes $$$ then by all means stick with it. By the way you are on the "house" side with all your plays today and its about time for the house to start winning, books have gotten beat up so far this year in mlb. I know 'cause I track it. Think it's starting to change tho as they have won the last 2 days in a row. 
    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User
    Maybe it was June and July, not May and June. All I remember is him calling me with negative results and I felt bad for giving the system to him. I do remember him modifying the system a little, if he had a dog and BOTH pitchers were Sagarin top 20 he would use the dog and think it improved his results a little. I never tracked it myself Joey but if you did and it makes $$$ then by all means stick with it. By the way you are on the "house" side with all your plays today and its about time for the house to start winning, books have gotten beat up so far this year in mlb. I know 'cause I track it. Think it's starting to change tho as they have won the last 2 days in a row. 
     
    air23blc
    air23blc
    Captain
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Feb, 2009
    Posts: 5156
    Posted: Apr. 27, 2012 - 1:18 PM ET #12

    Joey I sent you an inbox message with my email address this looks interesting
    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User
    Joey I sent you an inbox message with my email address this looks interesting
     
    joeyd88
    joeyd88
    Prospect
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Dec, 2005
    Posts: 152
    Posted: Apr. 27, 2012 - 1:29 PM ET #13

    I sent that over Air23
    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User
    I sent that over Air23
     
    air23blc
    air23blc
    Captain
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Feb, 2009
    Posts: 5156
    Posted: Apr. 27, 2012 - 1:31 PM ET #14

    Got em thanks man I am going to try this out selectively 
    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User
    Got em thanks man I am going to try this out selectively 
     
    joeyd88
    joeyd88
    Prospect
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Dec, 2005
    Posts: 152
    Posted: Apr. 27, 2012 - 1:54 PM ET #15

    good luck cappers.  Pass along the word
    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User
    good luck cappers.  Pass along the word
     
    SportsFreak69
    SportsFreak69
    Legend
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Aug, 2008
    Posts: 36843
    Posted: Apr. 27, 2012 - 2:11 PM ET #16

    Best of Luck 
    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User
    Best of Luck 
     
    air23blc
    air23blc
    Captain
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Feb, 2009
    Posts: 5156
    Posted: Apr. 27, 2012 - 2:13 PM ET #17

    How does the system react if the line opens at + money and then moves to -

    This is the case with Kansas city right now
    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User
    How does the system react if the line opens at + money and then moves to -

    This is the case with Kansas city right now
     
    joeyd88
    joeyd88
    Prospect
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Dec, 2005
    Posts: 152
    Posted: Apr. 27, 2012 - 2:24 PM ET #18

    Yeah thats kinda the trick.... if you havent made the bet when the team is still an underdog then you dont play it.  You only want to play underdogs all year. Keep that Vig in your favor. 

    Obviously the line move is a good indication and rarely does a line move from a slight dog to a big favorite, so you can still include it in your plays. But it just wouldnt be part of the system.  Depends how dedicated you are to the system. Do you want to exclusive make picks based on it then you NEVER play a favorite, --(i consider games where its even -110 for both teams to not be part of the system). I know it doesnt make either a favorite or a dog, but you want to avoid the juiice in that case.  a +100 dog is virtually the same bet as a -110 even game in terms of the outcome but you have to win 11 of 21 to break even, as where you have to win 10 of 20 to break even at +100.

    I still make other plays (when i think the lines are wrong and there is value, but not very many) but I just dont like laying the juice too often on a team unless the juice seems lower than it should be.

    Maybe that helps

    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User

    Yeah thats kinda the trick.... if you havent made the bet when the team is still an underdog then you dont play it.  You only want to play underdogs all year. Keep that Vig in your favor. 

    Obviously the line move is a good indication and rarely does a line move from a slight dog to a big favorite, so you can still include it in your plays. But it just wouldnt be part of the system.  Depends how dedicated you are to the system. Do you want to exclusive make picks based on it then you NEVER play a favorite, --(i consider games where its even -110 for both teams to not be part of the system). I know it doesnt make either a favorite or a dog, but you want to avoid the juiice in that case.  a +100 dog is virtually the same bet as a -110 even game in terms of the outcome but you have to win 11 of 21 to break even, as where you have to win 10 of 20 to break even at +100.

    I still make other plays (when i think the lines are wrong and there is value, but not very many) but I just dont like laying the juice too often on a team unless the juice seems lower than it should be.

    Maybe that helps

     
    joeyd88
    joeyd88
    Prospect
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Dec, 2005
    Posts: 152
    Posted: Apr. 27, 2012 - 2:28 PM ET #19

    Break-Even Points:

    +100 -- 50% winning

    +110 -- 47.6% winning

    +120 -- 45.5% winning

    +130 -- 43.5% winning

    +140 -- 41.7% winning

    +150 -- 40% winning

    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User

    Break-Even Points:

    +100 -- 50% winning

    +110 -- 47.6% winning

    +120 -- 45.5% winning

    +130 -- 43.5% winning

    +140 -- 41.7% winning

    +150 -- 40% winning

     
    MortgageMan
    MortgageMan
    Prospect
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Nov, 2006
    Posts: 333
    Posted: Apr. 27, 2012 - 2:30 PM ET #20

    Good luck!!
    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User
    Good luck!!
     
    joeyd88
    joeyd88
    Prospect
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Dec, 2005
    Posts: 152
    Posted: Apr. 27, 2012 - 2:59 PM ET #21

    Back to the top of the forum....read up cappers. Win with me and dont give up if todays picks dont pan out.  If you win one, your down less than 1 unit going 1 of 3 and if it were favorites, you be down 2+ units going 1 for 3. 

    This is an everyday thing, just like baseball

    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User

    Back to the top of the forum....read up cappers. Win with me and dont give up if todays picks dont pan out.  If you win one, your down less than 1 unit going 1 of 3 and if it were favorites, you be down 2+ units going 1 for 3. 

    This is an everyday thing, just like baseball

     
    zizou_100
    zizou_100
    Veteran
    Participation Meter
    Joined: May, 2009
    Posts: 1206
    Posted: Apr. 27, 2012 - 3:12 PM ET #22

    BOL Joeyd Im going to track it..I saw this before, but wasn't sure...
    I just added you as a friend....so you can send me the spreads hit


    BOL today....

    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User
    BOL Joeyd Im going to track it..I saw this before, but wasn't sure...
    I just added you as a friend....so you can send me the spreads hit


    BOL today....

     
    hitmanwhitman
    hitmanwhitman
    Prospect
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Feb, 2012
    Posts: 227
    Posted: Apr. 27, 2012 - 3:13 PM ET #23

    gl and thanks, now just a question I am more of a over under player, is there a system for that.
    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User
    gl and thanks, now just a question I am more of a over under player, is there a system for that.
     
    joeyd88
    joeyd88
    Prospect
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Dec, 2005
    Posts: 152
    Posted: Apr. 27, 2012 - 3:20 PM ET #24

    i dont have a system for that. But i do love playing unders almost exclusively. Its a pitchers league. Much less homers these days.  I look for the umps, ball park, ERA and bull pen and team batting averages.  THe lines are usually close.  Basically just avoid "high juice" bets (> -120) and you should be fine. Although the totals are split at this time for the year because vegas has adjusted to lasts years mauling they took, but theres still value. Some teams just cant score.  And the pitcher batting in the NL is already taken into account on the lines so be careful there.

    Zizzou, im not sure what you mean by send you the spreads.  Is there a way i can send you the excel documents that have captured the systems records. lmk

    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User

    i dont have a system for that. But i do love playing unders almost exclusively. Its a pitchers league. Much less homers these days.  I look for the umps, ball park, ERA and bull pen and team batting averages.  THe lines are usually close.  Basically just avoid "high juice" bets (> -120) and you should be fine. Although the totals are split at this time for the year because vegas has adjusted to lasts years mauling they took, but theres still value. Some teams just cant score.  And the pitcher batting in the NL is already taken into account on the lines so be careful there.

    Zizzou, im not sure what you mean by send you the spreads.  Is there a way i can send you the excel documents that have captured the systems records. lmk

     
     
    what_it_do
    what_it_do
    Rookie
    Participation Meter
    Joined: May, 2007
    Posts: 526
    Posted: Apr. 27, 2012 - 3:25 PM ET #25

    Joeyd, can u send me that spreadsheet as well, now that basketball season is over I need something to keep me busy.  Am very interested in checking out the system.

    Thanks

    BOL
    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User
    Joeyd, can u send me that spreadsheet as well, now that basketball season is over I need something to keep me busy.  Am very interested in checking out the system.

    Thanks

    BOL
    All Forums | MLB Betting Forum
    12345 Next Last»

    Hot Forums IconHot Forum Topics

    • Sunday 09/13/2026 731 Covers arrow
    • NFL LOCKED IN! 96,853 Covers arrow
    • Week One-Post Week One Plays Here 1,663 Covers arrow
    • SUNDAY 6,404 Covers arrow
    • DK NFL Week 1 Picks 9,154 Covers arrow
    • ***Macwesties * Sun. Sept 13, 2026 * NFL * Week #1* Football Plays*** 7,712 Covers arrow
    • 2026 POW Week 1 310 Covers arrow
    • _📌 🤗 Fubah's bets for NFL 2026: Week 01 🚩 10,220 Covers arrow
    • PART DEUX 131 Covers arrow
    • NFL Sunday 8,490 Covers arrow

    Warning - External Link

    Report User

    Thank you for reporting
    This content is abusive or harmful
    This post is spam
    An error has occurred
    This site is protected by reCAPTCHA and the Google Privacy Policy and Terms of Service apply.

    Delete Post

    Are you sure you would like to remove this post?

    Remove Thread

    Are you sure you would like to remove this thread?

    Scan Results

    Login/Register

    Happy to have you join the conversation. To do so, please login or create an account.
    Accounts are free and easy to create.

    Search


    Loading…

    Loading…

    About Us
    Contact Us
    Careers
    Our Team
    Brand
    Testimonials
    Betting Guides
    Sportsbook Reviews
    Betting News
    Podcasts
    Responsible Gambling
    Betting Sites
    US Betting Sites
    Canada Betting Sites
    Canada Casinos
    Best Betting Apps
    Contests
    Streak Survivor
    King of Covers
    Ultimate Race
    Office Pools
    The Covers community has
    810,221
    lifetime members worldwide
    Join our community today
    Covers 30 Years Logo Established in 1995,
    Covers is the world
    leader in sports
    betting information.
    21+
    Gambling problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER
    Help Privacy Terms of Service Cookies Sitemap Forum
    YouTube logo
    Facebook logo
    Twitter logo
    Instagram logo
    LinkedIn logo
    Google News logo
    Covers is verified safe by:
    Evalon Logo Logo GPWA Logo GDPR logo Logo GeoTrust logo Logo PCI DSS logo Logo
    Copyright © 1995 - 2026 CS Media Ltd. All Rights Reserved.
    If you choose to make use of any information on this website including online sports betting services from any websites that may be featured on this website, we strongly recommend that you carefully check your local laws before doing so.It is your sole responsibility to understand your local laws and observe them strictly.Covers does not provide any advice or guidance as to the legality of online sports betting or other online gambling activities within your jurisdiction and you are responsible for complying with laws that are applicable to you in your relevant locality.Covers disclaims all liability associated with your use of this website and use of any information contained on it.As a condition of using this website, you agree to hold the owner of this website harmless from any claims arising from your use of any services on any third party website that may be featured by Covers.