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    Bob's MLB Tuesday *** 5.31.16 ***

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    BirdsOnBat
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    Posted: May. 31, 2016 - 12:53 AM ET #1

    MLB 2016 --- Overall
    YTD:101-75-12 (57%) *** +11.39% Return on Risk ***
    ML: 54-42 (56%)
    F5: 2-4-2 (33%)
    RL: 11-6-2 (65%)
    O/U: 34-23-8 (60%)
    Starting / Current Bankroll: $9,391 / $11,638.92 (+$2,247.92, +23.94%)

    MLB 2016 --- Picks of the Day
    YTD: 29-20-4 (59%) *** +15.36% Return on Risk ***
    ML: 14-10 (58%)
    F5: 0-0-0 (0%)
    RL: 3-2-0 (60%)
    O/U: 12-8-4 (60%)

    MLB 2015
    Overall: 298-267-32 (53%) *** +6.46% Return on Risk ***
    PODs: 108-87-12 (55%) *** +14.17% Return on Risk ***

    MLB 2014
    Overall: 826-685-112 (55%) *** +4.13% Return on Risk ***
    PODs: 121-72-16 (63%) *** +16.60% Return on Risk ***

    Season Win Totals (Pending)
    Arizona Diamondbacks Over 81.5 (-130), Risk $100
    Baltimore Orioles Over 79.5 (+150), Risk $100
    Kansas City Royals Over 84.5 (+100), Risk $100

    Monday
    3-2-1, +$49.73
    https://www.covers.com/postingforum/post01/showmessage.aspx?spt=27&sub=102282354

    Tuesday's Card

    Boston Red Sox FG +109, Rodriguez/Gausman

    St. Louis Cardinals FG -150, Leake/Peralta

    Houston/Arizona Over 9 FG +100, McCuller/Corbin


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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    MLB 2016 --- Overall
    YTD:101-75-12 (57%) *** +11.39% Return on Risk ***
    ML: 54-42 (56%)
    F5: 2-4-2 (33%)
    RL: 11-6-2 (65%)
    O/U: 34-23-8 (60%)
    Starting / Current Bankroll: $9,391 / $11,638.92 (+$2,247.92, +23.94%)

    MLB 2016 --- Picks of the Day
    YTD: 29-20-4 (59%) *** +15.36% Return on Risk ***
    ML: 14-10 (58%)
    F5: 0-0-0 (0%)
    RL: 3-2-0 (60%)
    O/U: 12-8-4 (60%)

    MLB 2015
    Overall: 298-267-32 (53%) *** +6.46% Return on Risk ***
    PODs: 108-87-12 (55%) *** +14.17% Return on Risk ***

    MLB 2014
    Overall: 826-685-112 (55%) *** +4.13% Return on Risk ***
    PODs: 121-72-16 (63%) *** +16.60% Return on Risk ***

    Season Win Totals (Pending)
    Arizona Diamondbacks Over 81.5 (-130), Risk $100
    Baltimore Orioles Over 79.5 (+150), Risk $100
    Kansas City Royals Over 84.5 (+100), Risk $100

    Monday
    3-2-1, +$49.73
    https://www.covers.com/postingforum/post01/showmessage.aspx?spt=27&sub=102282354

    Tuesday's Card

    Boston Red Sox FG +109, Rodriguez/Gausman

    St. Louis Cardinals FG -150, Leake/Peralta

    Houston/Arizona Over 9 FG +100, McCuller/Corbin


     
    natcanada
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    Posted: May. 31, 2016 - 12:55 AM ET #2

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    BirdsOnBat
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    Posted: May. 31, 2016 - 1:11 AM ET #3

    Curious to get feedback on a potential new format. I would remove most of the record detail (e.g., splitting out by wager type).

    Bankroll
    Beginning / Current: $9,391.00 / $11,638.92
    Profit: +$2,247.92 (+23.94%)
    Average Line / Wager Size: -108 /
    $104.95

    Overall Record
    2016: 101-75-12 (57%), +11.39% Return on Risk
    2015: 298-267-32 (53%), +6.46% Return on Risk ***
    2014: 826-685-112 (55%), +4.13% Return on Risk ***

    Picks of the Day Record
    2016: 29-20-4 (59%), +15.36% Return on Risk ***
    2015: 108-87-12 (55%), +14.17% Return on Risk ***
    2014: 121-72-16 (63%), +16.60% Return on Risk ***

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    Curious to get feedback on a potential new format. I would remove most of the record detail (e.g., splitting out by wager type).

    Bankroll
    Beginning / Current: $9,391.00 / $11,638.92
    Profit: +$2,247.92 (+23.94%)
    Average Line / Wager Size: -108 /
    $104.95

    Overall Record
    2016: 101-75-12 (57%), +11.39% Return on Risk
    2015: 298-267-32 (53%), +6.46% Return on Risk ***
    2014: 826-685-112 (55%), +4.13% Return on Risk ***

    Picks of the Day Record
    2016: 29-20-4 (59%), +15.36% Return on Risk ***
    2015: 108-87-12 (55%), +14.17% Return on Risk ***
    2014: 121-72-16 (63%), +16.60% Return on Risk ***

     
    KingScorpio
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    Posted: May. 31, 2016 - 2:35 AM ET #4

    Do what makes YOU comfortable 
    There is no 100% cappers in the world
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    Do what makes YOU comfortable 
     
    Julespussy
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    Posted: May. 31, 2016 - 3:11 AM ET #5

    Much better! Get rid of previous years as well - you have enough sample size from this year for it to hold up now!
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    Much better! Get rid of previous years as well - you have enough sample size from this year for it to hold up now!
     
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    Posted: May. 31, 2016 - 3:13 AM ET #6

    Actually keep the splits as they help show your relative strengths. But get rid of previous years

    And keep posting winners....!
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    Actually keep the splits as they help show your relative strengths. But get rid of previous years

    And keep posting winners....!
     
    HighwayToHell
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    Posted: May. 31, 2016 - 7:14 AM ET #7

    Keep the previous years records. It shows consistency over time. 
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    Keep the previous years records. It shows consistency over time. 
     
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    Posted: May. 31, 2016 - 7:50 AM ET #8

    Hey Birds,

    I looked long and hard at Boston last night, any concern about Eduardo's 28 inning stint in the minors? His #'s were pedestrian at best, makes me lean toward the over.

    Bol on the card today
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    Hey Birds,

    I looked long and hard at Boston last night, any concern about Eduardo's 28 inning stint in the minors? His #'s were pedestrian at best, makes me lean toward the over.

    Bol on the card today
     
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    Posted: May. 31, 2016 - 8:19 AM ET #9



    ~~~~~ZOSO~~~~~
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    Posted: May. 31, 2016 - 8:39 AM ET #10

    As long as they pretend to pay me I will pretend to work
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    Posted: May. 31, 2016 - 8:46 AM ET #11

    gl tonight BoB...we are both on a very similar run, i was getting worried there for a while

    i think its good to see the breakdown..even for your sake to see what type of bets have the best return




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    gl tonight BoB...we are both on a very similar run, i was getting worried there for a while

    i think its good to see the breakdown..even for your sake to see what type of bets have the best return




     
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    Posted: May. 31, 2016 - 9:13 AM ET #12

    what do you think about Houston vs Arizona ML...I know McCullers is coming off a decent start so i feel he is due for a stinker as he is still trying to round out into season shape...Not to mention Arizona has lost been around .500 the last 10 games and i think Corbin is a better pitcher at the moment...
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    what do you think about Houston vs Arizona ML...I know McCullers is coming off a decent start so i feel he is due for a stinker as he is still trying to round out into season shape...Not to mention Arizona has lost been around .500 the last 10 games and i think Corbin is a better pitcher at the moment...
     
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    Posted: May. 31, 2016 - 9:40 AM ET #13

    Why play Cardinals moneyline instead of runline?


    Every win the Cards have had on the road this year has been by 3+ runs and they're facing a badly struggling pitcher in a great hitters park. They should win by at least 4-5
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    Why play Cardinals moneyline instead of runline?


    Every win the Cards have had on the road this year has been by 3+ runs and they're facing a badly struggling pitcher in a great hitters park. They should win by at least 4-5
     
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    Posted: May. 31, 2016 - 9:43 AM ET #14

    keyword they "should win" by that much, peralta can't keep sucking forever, i think St. Louis wins outright but not more then -1.5...
    Remi RL and hight Moneylines are bookies favorite bets
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    keyword they "should win" by that much, peralta can't keep sucking forever, i think St. Louis wins outright but not more then -1.5...
    Remi RL and hight Moneylines are bookies favorite bets
     
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    Posted: May. 31, 2016 - 10:04 AM ET #15

    Quote Originally Posted by BRod1979:

    keyword they "should win" by that much, peralta can't keep sucking forever, i think St. Louis wins outright but not more then -1.5...
    Remi RL and hight Moneylines are bookies favorite bets


    There's no part of Peralta's profiles that leads you to believe that his struggles will change. His peripheral numbers are horrible, doesn't get many Ks, walks a lot of batters. He's badly struggled at home and in his career stats vs STL. STL offense is pacing at an all time great pace. They may put up a 10 spot


    only way they don't win by 3-4+ runs is if Leake gets hammered
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    Quote Originally Posted by BRod1979:

    keyword they "should win" by that much, peralta can't keep sucking forever, i think St. Louis wins outright but not more then -1.5...
    Remi RL and hight Moneylines are bookies favorite bets


    There's no part of Peralta's profiles that leads you to believe that his struggles will change. His peripheral numbers are horrible, doesn't get many Ks, walks a lot of batters. He's badly struggled at home and in his career stats vs STL. STL offense is pacing at an all time great pace. They may put up a 10 spot


    only way they don't win by 3-4+ runs is if Leake gets hammered
     
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    Posted: May. 31, 2016 - 10:13 AM ET #16

    also milwaukee's home park is #9 in the league for most favorable for hitters with a huge edge of homerun hitting teams - STL's biggest strength is the homerun ball. The more you look at this, the more you really love it 
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    also milwaukee's home park is #9 in the league for most favorable for hitters with a huge edge of homerun hitting teams - STL's biggest strength is the homerun ball. The more you look at this, the more you really love it 
     
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    Posted: May. 31, 2016 - 10:14 AM ET #17

    On the Red Sox also
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    On the Red Sox also
     
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    Posted: May. 31, 2016 - 10:17 AM ET #18

    well the play the game today, so we will see...i think Leake gets hammered and they pull one out Late in the 8th for a win. But just by 1 :)
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    well the play the game today, so we will see...i think Leake gets hammered and they pull one out Late in the 8th for a win. But just by 1 :)
     
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    Posted: May. 31, 2016 - 10:48 AM ET #19

    I think I'm playing cards team total over 5 too you guys. I just don't see any way they don't explode in this game. I follow the cards pretty closely being a cubs fan and they really clobber bad pitching...Peralta is awful
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    I think I'm playing cards team total over 5 too you guys. I just don't see any way they don't explode in this game. I follow the cards pretty closely being a cubs fan and they really clobber bad pitching...Peralta is awful
     
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    Posted: May. 31, 2016 - 12:33 PM ET #20

    Tuesday's Card *** Updated ***

    St. Louis Cardinals FG -150, Leake/Peralta

    Houston/Arizona Over 9 FG +100, McCuller/Corbin

    Boston Red Sox FG +109, Rodriguez/Gausman

    Minnesota/Oakland Over 4 F5 -135, Duffey/Surkamp


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    Tuesday's Card *** Updated ***

    St. Louis Cardinals FG -150, Leake/Peralta

    Houston/Arizona Over 9 FG +100, McCuller/Corbin

    Boston Red Sox FG +109, Rodriguez/Gausman

    Minnesota/Oakland Over 4 F5 -135, Duffey/Surkamp


     
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    Posted: May. 31, 2016 - 1:16 PM ET #21

    I think you have had enough external advce, so............
    BOL 
    Now and then even a BLIND squirrel can find an acorn
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    I think you have had enough external advce, so............
    BOL 
     
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    Posted: May. 31, 2016 - 1:47 PM ET #22

    Your stats indicate your PODs are hitting at a higher rate - consistently. I don't know how you handicap games, but wouldn't it be wiser to not bet on your regular plays but increase the wager amount on your PODs?

    Just a thought, maybe I'm not interpretating this correctly.
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    Your stats indicate your PODs are hitting at a higher rate - consistently. I don't know how you handicap games, but wouldn't it be wiser to not bet on your regular plays but increase the wager amount on your PODs?

    Just a thought, maybe I'm not interpretating this correctly.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fadeORdie:

    Your stats indicate your PODs are hitting at a higher rate - consistently. I don't know how you handicap games, but wouldn't it be wiser to not bet on your regular plays but increase the wager amount on your PODs?

    Just a thought, maybe I'm not interpretating this correctly.


    I cap my daily amount of risk taken at 7.5% of bankroll.

    Some days I scale my PODs are 1.50% of bankroll if I don't plan to have more than 3-4 plays. Otherwise, all bets are flat 1% of bankroll (~$115 right now). Although, i scaled PODs at 1.50% on Sat/Sun. I mainly started tracking them (and highlighting) since other people asked me to do it a few years back.

    As far as relative returns go... my overall record is more significant statistically, since only about 25-30% of my picks are PODs. Back of the envelope math tells me I am returning about 10% on risk for regular plays (so about 5% points lower than PODs). I have become more selective over time - as evidenced by the number of plays decreasing each year - and the differential in return between regular and PODs have been converging as a result (each year). Very few people are going to be able to scale bets effectively. My preference would be to just change my selection criteria altogether.

    It's possible that I transition to only wagering on what I would - today - consider PODs and increasing my wager size to 2% of bankroll. Before I made a drastic change, I wanted to track it (need evidence to support a change). In the meantime, I continue to learn from both my mistakes and successes so there is value (for me, at least) in experimenting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fadeORdie:

    Your stats indicate your PODs are hitting at a higher rate - consistently. I don't know how you handicap games, but wouldn't it be wiser to not bet on your regular plays but increase the wager amount on your PODs?

    Just a thought, maybe I'm not interpretating this correctly.


    I cap my daily amount of risk taken at 7.5% of bankroll.

    Some days I scale my PODs are 1.50% of bankroll if I don't plan to have more than 3-4 plays. Otherwise, all bets are flat 1% of bankroll (~$115 right now). Although, i scaled PODs at 1.50% on Sat/Sun. I mainly started tracking them (and highlighting) since other people asked me to do it a few years back.

    As far as relative returns go... my overall record is more significant statistically, since only about 25-30% of my picks are PODs. Back of the envelope math tells me I am returning about 10% on risk for regular plays (so about 5% points lower than PODs). I have become more selective over time - as evidenced by the number of plays decreasing each year - and the differential in return between regular and PODs have been converging as a result (each year). Very few people are going to be able to scale bets effectively. My preference would be to just change my selection criteria altogether.

    It's possible that I transition to only wagering on what I would - today - consider PODs and increasing my wager size to 2% of bankroll. Before I made a drastic change, I wanted to track it (need evidence to support a change). In the meantime, I continue to learn from both my mistakes and successes so there is value (for me, at least) in experimenting.
     
    BirdsOnBat
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    Posted: May. 31, 2016 - 2:13 PM ET #24

    Quote Originally Posted by fadeORdie:

    wouldn't it be wiser to not bet on your regular plays but increase the wager amount on your PODs


    Lastly, a 10% return on risk is VERY good, which is about what I've returned on regular plays. Not playing games that produce 10% RoR would be blasphemy!

    A few years back, people used to sweat feartheweb. he was a talented capper with a high $ P/L (north of $20K at times), but his return on risk was much lower (< 4%) than most would assume. There were far better cappers to follow.

    My goal going into the season is to return 5%+
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    Quote Originally Posted by fadeORdie:

    wouldn't it be wiser to not bet on your regular plays but increase the wager amount on your PODs


    Lastly, a 10% return on risk is VERY good, which is about what I've returned on regular plays. Not playing games that produce 10% RoR would be blasphemy!

    A few years back, people used to sweat feartheweb. he was a talented capper with a high $ P/L (north of $20K at times), but his return on risk was much lower (< 4%) than most would assume. There were far better cappers to follow.

    My goal going into the season is to return 5%+
     
     
    ghuk123
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    Posted: May. 31, 2016 - 2:18 PM ET #25

    Great record birdsonbat.

    How confident are you on cardinals today? I'm looking for 1 solid play today and I'm torn between cubs ans cardinals. Thanks
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    Great record birdsonbat.

    How confident are you on cardinals today? I'm looking for 1 solid play today and I'm torn between cubs ans cardinals. Thanks
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