Most impressive win BJ Penn as he retires? Paul Daley in Strikeforce? This guy has built up a resume fighting patsies, finally got in tonight with someone who could take a punch and COUNTERPUNCH and he got beat down for it.
Diaz is completly 1 dimensional and tonight he got EXPOSED
Most impressive win BJ Penn as he retires? Paul Daley in Strikeforce? This guy has built up a resume fighting patsies, finally got in tonight with someone who could take a punch and COUNTERPUNCH and he got beat down for it.
Diaz is completly 1 dimensional and tonight he got EXPOSED
I am dead serious.......look at the names of who he has beaten. He is an above average fighter but certainly nothing close to what he was being hyped as coming off his win streak. You look at the list below of W's and L's and tell me what you think.
W's - BJ Penn / Paul Daley / Evangalista Santos / KJ Noons / Hayato Sakuri / Marius Zarmoskis / Scott Smith / Frank Shamrock / Thomas Denny / Mushin Cobbrey / Katsuya Inoue / Mike Aina / Gleison Tibau / Josh Neer / Ray Steinbeiss / Koji Oishi / Drew Fickett / Robbie Lawler / Jeremy Jackson (twice) Joe Hurley / Harris Sarmiento / Adam Lynn / Blaine Tyler / Chris Lytle / Mike Wick
Compared to the Losses
L's Carlos Condit / KJ Noons / Sean Sherk / Joe Riggs / Diego Sanchez / Karo Parisyan / Kuniyoshi Hironaka / Jeremey Jackson
To me there is a significant difference in the quality of fighters Diaz has beaten and whom he has gotten beaten by. He has padded his record very nicely bouncing In and Out of the UFC and fighting people he is clearly superior then. Compare his W's to the truely TOP TIER fighters in the UFC and there is a noticeable difference in quality of oppenents they have defeated.
I am dead serious.......look at the names of who he has beaten. He is an above average fighter but certainly nothing close to what he was being hyped as coming off his win streak. You look at the list below of W's and L's and tell me what you think.
W's - BJ Penn / Paul Daley / Evangalista Santos / KJ Noons / Hayato Sakuri / Marius Zarmoskis / Scott Smith / Frank Shamrock / Thomas Denny / Mushin Cobbrey / Katsuya Inoue / Mike Aina / Gleison Tibau / Josh Neer / Ray Steinbeiss / Koji Oishi / Drew Fickett / Robbie Lawler / Jeremy Jackson (twice) Joe Hurley / Harris Sarmiento / Adam Lynn / Blaine Tyler / Chris Lytle / Mike Wick
Compared to the Losses
L's Carlos Condit / KJ Noons / Sean Sherk / Joe Riggs / Diego Sanchez / Karo Parisyan / Kuniyoshi Hironaka / Jeremey Jackson
To me there is a significant difference in the quality of fighters Diaz has beaten and whom he has gotten beaten by. He has padded his record very nicely bouncing In and Out of the UFC and fighting people he is clearly superior then. Compare his W's to the truely TOP TIER fighters in the UFC and there is a noticeable difference in quality of oppenents they have defeated.
i would wager that you do watch Condit vs GSP... too bad we cant make that bet lol.
i was on Diaz. Not a chance in the world he beat condit. I never saw the strike stats, but I'm sure that alone told the story. Yes Condit ran away, but he hit Diaz.. then ran. over and over and over. Diaz fought a brutal fight and wasn't near as aggressive as he has been in the past, and should have been.
Some people talk about one dimnesional fighters, and that is exactly how Diaz was forced to fight. Zero ground game if you can't get a TD. Diaz has very limited kicking ability. all he could do was box, and he was outstruck badly
Overall strikes:
Condit: 159
Diaz: 117
Significant strikes:
Condit: 151
Diaz: 105
Round 1: Condit 30 (28 significant stikes), Diaz 28 (23)
Round 2: Condit 29 (29), Diaz 35 (32)
Round 3: Condit 33 (32), Diaz 24 (22)
Round 4: Condit 37 (36), Diaz 11 (11)
Round 5: Condit 30 (25), Diaz 19 (17)
Fight Metric overall score: Condit 306, Diaz 274
AND!..... Condit landed th eharder strikes
of course I know that, but this fight was 99% striking, with the exception of the partial takedown/fall at the end of the 5th, where Diaz took Condit's back, but truely never had him in trouble.
agreed, it could have gone either way and it wouldn't have been the worst decision ever
and yes, I know the damage to the face doesn't tell the whole story, but Diaz's face was a MESS after the fight, and Condit had one cut under his eye.
of course I know that, but this fight was 99% striking, with the exception of the partial takedown/fall at the end of the 5th, where Diaz took Condit's back, but truely never had him in trouble.
agreed, it could have gone either way and it wouldn't have been the worst decision ever
and yes, I know the damage to the face doesn't tell the whole story, but Diaz's face was a MESS after the fight, and Condit had one cut under his eye.
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If you want to watch 2 goons standing toe to toe trying to knock each other's heads off, go back and watch the old toughman shows. This is professional fighting. It's about gameplans, technique, intelligence and trying to force the other guy to fight your fight, not get sucked into his gameplan. Condit was masterful last night. He clearly has the better skillset and he's obviously a ,ot smarter than Diaz who never adjusted to try to counter what Condit was doing by varying his approach. He just kept plodding forward, used no lateral movement, got hit repeatedly with leg kicks, stiff jabs to the face, spinning backfists, kicks to the body and head. For someone who supposedly running away the whole fight, he sure did screw Diaz's face up pretty good.
Instead of criticizing Condit for executing his gameplan and flat out beating Diaz, maybe you should throw some criticism towards Diaz for being a one dimensional fighter who was clearly outclassed.