i agree. however, the consensus, whether all, 10% or team experts should only include those with positive bankrolls, you can still make picks but they dont count towards the consensus. dont we all want the best picks and not these system bettors who lay 500 bets on the dogs every week. if you look at each team expert on line many if not 90% are historic and current losers. so what is the point then of having the data, if it is flawed. i dont care if the 10% only includes 10 people as long as they are winners. or how about a category instead of team experts, you just make it winning percentage overall. just a thought.
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i agree. however, the consensus, whether all, 10% or team experts should only include those with positive bankrolls, you can still make picks but they dont count towards the consensus. dont we all want the best picks and not these system bettors who lay 500 bets on the dogs every week. if you look at each team expert on line many if not 90% are historic and current losers. so what is the point then of having the data, if it is flawed. i dont care if the 10% only includes 10 people as long as they are winners. or how about a category instead of team experts, you just make it winning percentage overall. just a thought.
i have read all the post, i just dont know why u have to have a bankroll. what is the point, winners are positve and losers are not. if i can get a screen which only includes winners overall in the sport i am betting currently, then i could wittle down the time it takes to handicap 143 basketball games. exclude those who are in these tourneys, who give a garbage if u get a shirt. i am betting a dollar on a game and would like accurate information to help me decide. the one site that did have that option was the big guy. but sadly it is now gone, in addtional to their data base.
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i have read all the post, i just dont know why u have to have a bankroll. what is the point, winners are positve and losers are not. if i can get a screen which only includes winners overall in the sport i am betting currently, then i could wittle down the time it takes to handicap 143 basketball games. exclude those who are in these tourneys, who give a garbage if u get a shirt. i am betting a dollar on a game and would like accurate information to help me decide. the one site that did have that option was the big guy. but sadly it is now gone, in addtional to their data base.
I agree with your post because it's logical. The contests encourage mass picking and I'm forced to play that way in order to try and win prizes. I believe I finished 8th last year in their NHL contest and it was funny because I don't even watch hockey nearly as much compared to the other sports. I did get more selective as the season got near the end, though. I also won in the NFL playoff contest this year by total luck one week and winning a hat I don't need. I wish the prizes would be hoodies and not hats but I guess that'd cost them more money.
But yeah, I would change my methods completely if they changed the structure of their contests.
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I agree with your post because it's logical. The contests encourage mass picking and I'm forced to play that way in order to try and win prizes. I believe I finished 8th last year in their NHL contest and it was funny because I don't even watch hockey nearly as much compared to the other sports. I did get more selective as the season got near the end, though. I also won in the NFL playoff contest this year by total luck one week and winning a hat I don't need. I wish the prizes would be hoodies and not hats but I guess that'd cost them more money.
But yeah, I would change my methods completely if they changed the structure of their contests.
You have an excellent point there. Let's see just how good we are. I like the so much a day idea. It would cause a little more handicapping to go into it.
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You have an excellent point there. Let's see just how good we are. I like the so much a day idea. It would cause a little more handicapping to go into it.
First, I think this is the most fascinating site for sports betting. Can I say it's ahead of its time? The consensus page alone is an interesting study from day-to-day. Just simple facts: 4,000 people "bet" on the Notre Dame Alabama compared to 4,500 for a regular season NFL game, 1,700 on typical college basketball games and 2,300 on typical NBA games. Would have never thought that college football was that low. Would never have thought that 64 % of the public would have taken Notre Dame.
But why are the winners of the league contest based on these people who bet on EVERY SINGLE GAME: both over/under and pointspread. I mean consider our NFL regular season champion, elizalovesolly. Bless her heart last Saturday - she thoughtfully placed 143 separate bets across the board. If I was to track her, I would have lost 30,000 dollars in December and this was prime time for her "skill" sport, NFL football. Is this really the sign of a champion? Is this how Billy Walters bets on a given sports Saturday - laying 143 separate bets for 500 (or 5,000 or 50,000) a pop?
But, in 2012, she did go 261-181 on NFL games equating to being up 30,000. It's just that in every other sport since March 2012 when she joined, she's down 22,000, 28,000 and 24,000.
I've got nothing against Eliza. But she's an average nobody like the rest of us, myself included. She happened to get a cross section of her upside picks in the NFL contest. Overall, nothing special except stamina to day-after-day fill in 100-200 dots.
So here's to the league contests becoming just a little more realistic compared to real betting. Give each person a "budget" of 5,000 a day to bet. If they want to spend it all on one game, let 'em do it. If they really have the inside scoop on 100-200 picks, like Eliza does, they can spend 50 a game and go for it. I'd honestly like to see if among our amateur crowd we have a future (or current) Billy Walters. With the current contests, we don't know what we have.
Set up your own contest and run it as you see fit and bring your bankroll to back it!!!!...Should leave other peoples creations alone..especially one that has been around this long!
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Quote Originally Posted by biff37:
First, I think this is the most fascinating site for sports betting. Can I say it's ahead of its time? The consensus page alone is an interesting study from day-to-day. Just simple facts: 4,000 people "bet" on the Notre Dame Alabama compared to 4,500 for a regular season NFL game, 1,700 on typical college basketball games and 2,300 on typical NBA games. Would have never thought that college football was that low. Would never have thought that 64 % of the public would have taken Notre Dame.
But why are the winners of the league contest based on these people who bet on EVERY SINGLE GAME: both over/under and pointspread. I mean consider our NFL regular season champion, elizalovesolly. Bless her heart last Saturday - she thoughtfully placed 143 separate bets across the board. If I was to track her, I would have lost 30,000 dollars in December and this was prime time for her "skill" sport, NFL football. Is this really the sign of a champion? Is this how Billy Walters bets on a given sports Saturday - laying 143 separate bets for 500 (or 5,000 or 50,000) a pop?
But, in 2012, she did go 261-181 on NFL games equating to being up 30,000. It's just that in every other sport since March 2012 when she joined, she's down 22,000, 28,000 and 24,000.
I've got nothing against Eliza. But she's an average nobody like the rest of us, myself included. She happened to get a cross section of her upside picks in the NFL contest. Overall, nothing special except stamina to day-after-day fill in 100-200 dots.
So here's to the league contests becoming just a little more realistic compared to real betting. Give each person a "budget" of 5,000 a day to bet. If they want to spend it all on one game, let 'em do it. If they really have the inside scoop on 100-200 picks, like Eliza does, they can spend 50 a game and go for it. I'd honestly like to see if among our amateur crowd we have a future (or current) Billy Walters. With the current contests, we don't know what we have.
Set up your own contest and run it as you see fit and bring your bankroll to back it!!!!...Should leave other peoples creations alone..especially one that has been around this long!
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