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#476
The last one's expiry is tomorrow. Just a heads up
Trading Binary Options vs Betting on Sports - which is more profitable
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#480
Quote Originally Posted by MaxiMILLION:
Some english would really be appreciated here guys
Some english would really be appreciated here guys
NP. The guys basically asking if there really can be made money trading the binaries and if the money is safe in optionrally and I explained him what iron1 answered the other day too that they are regulated under cysec and money is as safe as it can be . Ah, and also that the trading binaries is safer than sports gambling because you can't fix the trades ha ha ha
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#485
Quote Originally Posted by SportsMavin:
Liquidity provider is inviting to take put position on a longer term - we will take CALL despite a price higher than for the short term as the price is gonna shoot higher than 95
CALL. No Fear!!!
Liquidity provider is inviting to take put position on a longer term - we will take CALL despite a price higher than for the short term as the price is gonna shoot higher than 95
| 721171 | $ 1000 | OIL | 12:01 24/04/13 | 92.3333 | 13:10 26/04/13 |
WIN +760$
| 721171 | $ 1000 | OIL | 12:01 24/04/13 | 92.3333 | 13:10 26/04/13 | 93.0100 | $ 1760.00 |
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#488
Quote Originally Posted by Mr_Coffee_Shop:
NP. The guys basically asking if there really can be made money trading the binaries and if the money is safe in optionrally and I explained him what iron1 answered the other day too that they are regulated under cysec and money is as safe as it can be . Ah, and also that the trading binaries is safer than sports gambling because you can't fix the trades ha ha ha
The trades CAN be fixed.
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#491
Quote Originally Posted by SportsMavin:
Liquidity provider is inviting to take put position on a longer term - we will take CALL despite a price higher than for the short term as the price is gonna shoot higher than 95
CALL. No Fear!!!
Liquidity provider is inviting to take put position on a longer term - we will take CALL despite a price higher than for the short term as the price is gonna shoot higher than 95
| 721171 | $ 1000 | OIL | 12:01 24/04/13 | 92.3333 | 13:10 26/04/13 |
Mavin...........Who or what is liquidity provider??
Another question........When taking this longer term (2 day) call option on oil, you had to ADD 2.00$ to the current price in order to take that trade? I had no idea they did this. To me, that seems like a large spread to overcome on a 48 hour trade. But what do I know, you took it and covered it easily, congrats on that call.
If you would have taken a put position (instead of call) on the same 2 day oil trade, do they set the price 2.00$ below current price or what?
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#492
Quote Originally Posted by phixer:
how? the only way the price can move is if there is buying or selling of an asset. that is the essence of the trade. as long as it really happens - how can it be a fix?
I have been in the market business trading equities and derivatives for a long time, probably not as long as Mavin and others but 11 years is quite a long time for me as I am 32.
I can tell you that trades or prices can be fixed based upon the agenda or the big traders and more so the option houses. When I speak of option houses I don't mean binary options but standardized options. However in this type of option the strikes are whole numbers. Lets say AAPL weekly or monthly expiry at 420. If the big houses or players have written lots of $420 calls they can do hedge trades to try and they mostly succeed in closing the stock below that price thus making all the calls worth less. This is not the same in binary where everyone has a different strike price, well at least there is more than one strike price per dollar and there are more times of expiration. Back in 2009 after the market crash I had an interesting model following the widely known maximum pain theory which is supposed to calculate the closing price at expiration that would cause the greatest amount of loss to calls buyers and put buyers in this case lets say the majority for AAPL put options this week was set at 415 and the majority of the calls at 420 (based on open contracts) - the idea for the option houses would be to set buy orders and sell orders that will keep the price in this range. There are way to spot this activity but it would be a whole lot of typing to put it all down right now. Knowing this can be useful in binary if you decide to trade looking forward to the closing prices on Fridays at 4pm est on stocks that have weekly options and on the third Friday 4pm est - of the month for those that only have monthly options.
While many value investors believe that an asset moves based on it's value and eventually the true value of a co. comes to be represented and achieved the truth is that stocks move on the flow of money, which is basically as you said supply and demands, or buy and sell orders. However there is stock manipulation occurring daily and the SEC does very little about it, and my idea is not to complain but to always figure out what the game is and play it to the extent that I am not the first one in or first one out- mean my approach to trading is not to buy the lowest point and sell the highest point. My approach is to buy low and sell high within the parameters of the game or trading I see happening based on technicals, light fundamentals and news.
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#496
Quote Originally Posted by Turbovtk:
I have been in the market business trading equities and derivatives for a long time, probably not as long as Mavin and others but 11 years is quite a long time for me as I am 32.
I can tell you that trades or prices can be fixed based upon the agenda or the big traders and more so the option houses. When I speak of option houses I don't mean binary options but standardized options. However in this type of option the strikes are whole numbers. Lets say AAPL weekly or monthly expiry at 420. If the big houses or players have written lots of $420 calls they can do hedge trades to try and they mostly succeed in closing the stock below that price thus making all the calls worth less. This is not the same in binary where everyone has a different strike price, well at least there is more than one strike price per dollar and there are more times of expiration. Back in 2009 after the market crash I had an interesting model following the widely known maximum pain theory which is supposed to calculate the closing price at expiration that would cause the greatest amount of loss to calls buyers and put buyers in this case lets say the majority for AAPL put options this week was set at 415 and the majority of the calls at 420 (based on open contracts) - the idea for the option houses would be to set buy orders and sell orders that will keep the price in this range. There are way to spot this activity but it would be a whole lot of typing to put it all down right now. Knowing this can be useful in binary if you decide to trade looking forward to the closing prices on Fridays at 4pm est on stocks that have weekly options and on the third Friday 4pm est - of the month for those that only have monthly options.
While many value investors believe that an asset moves based on it's value and eventually the true value of a co. comes to be represented and achieved the truth is that stocks move on the flow of money, which is basically as you said supply and demands, or buy and sell orders. However there is stock manipulation occurring daily and the SEC does very little about it, and my idea is not to complain but to always figure out what the game is and play it to the extent that I am not the first one in or first one out- mean my approach to trading is not to buy the lowest point and sell the highest point. My approach is to buy low and sell high within the parameters of the game or trading I see happening based on technicals, light fundamentals and news.
Trading Binary Options is not like anything you described buddy. And besides - moving the price of an asset through buying is not fixing. That's a trade. When word fix is used in our corcles (sports handicappers) we usually associate with non kosher activities as the biased refs, players etc. That is impossible with Binary Options as there is no third party that "fixes" the trade as it will cost exact amount of money needed to move the price as it would cost investing in it - so what is the point? The only motive to do so is usually associated with speculants who try to drive passive traders into frenzy of buying or selling the same exact way as the sharps or wise guys drive into a frenzy regular public with lines moved.
I say that if you know what you're doing, you have enough funds to stay on market and are a disciplined person - there is no way you won't make money is a steady fashion over a period of time aimed
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